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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by OyinO: 7:30pm On May 03
Is that why you call our culture "shortcomings"??
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by OyinO: 7:34pm On May 03
Nothing but continuation of colonisation and imperialism. The Whites don't speak language to their whites here in Corporate Environment? Is English our local or native language? Can't you see it's neocolonialism.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Ofodirinwa: 7:52pm On May 03
Icumsa45:


In the midst of other ethnic groups? You didn't follow the mention of the previous commenter before me.

If two Chinese people are speaking chinese to each other will you disturb them with your logic, or will you respect it? Or is it only africans that have to speak english when you walk in the room? If two english people are speaking to each other will you demand they speak Yoruba?

If you want to talk to them learn Yoruba. If you don't want to talk to them leave them alone because they're not talking to you.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by mofedamijo(m): 7:59pm On May 03
abbey621:


You're so ignorant, is it about being salaried or getting paid respectable figures. Average KFC manager makes less than $50,000 a year before taxes, if you believe this is a salary worthy of a manager then you're even more daft than I imagined! My mother was a KFC manager for 4 years before going back to school and venturing into healthcare, my father Burger King manager for 6 years before completing his masters and working for the US government. The rubbish you wrote above is for your own pocket. Nigerians are overrepresented in management in US and Canada....did you pull this statistic out of your ass? Nigerians are not even in the top 5 in terms of representation. We have White American males, white American females, black American male, Asians, black American females, Latinos and then you can start talking about Nigerian or Northern African countries/Arabs.

As a seasoned I.T. auditor who has found himself in management, I can count the number of Nigerians that are managers in the I.T field, even sectors like healthcare where we expect Nigerians to dominate because of its allure, we often find that Nigerians shy away from management and are content with just being nurses. From Grady hospital to Emory and Northside here in Atlanta, the number of Nigerians that are managers or supervisors represents less than 10%, if this is what you call overrepresentation then you're high on cheap pepsi!

I believe you based on my experience. Most Nigerian Doctors in Maryland prefer not to be at the top management level. I am talking about very talented and well respected Doctors in different fields.

UMMC, Maryland can boast of 10 Nigerian Doctors, I think just one or two of them are at the Top. As a matter of fact, I heard some of them don't want to be part of the Top Management.

The guy you quoted is just ignorant, or probably, yankee sey shak ham.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by abbey621(m): 8:10pm On May 03
mofedamijo:


I believe you based on my experience. Most Nigerian Doctors in Maryland prefer not to be at the top management level. I am talking about very talented and well respected Doctors in different fields.

UMMC, Maryland can boast of 10 Nigerian Doctors, I think just one or two of them are at the Top. As a matter of fact, I heard some of them don't want to be part of the Top Management.

The guy you quoted is just ignorant, or probably, yankee sey shak ham.

I'm not even talking about top management like Vice President or CFO, I'm talking about regular management like mid or entry level. Majority of Nigerians are more likely to be good foot soldiers than to dabble into office politics. Nigerians are numerous in the USA, we can be found in almost every sector but only a few of us will ever smell top management, it's a combination of ambition and politics. I've been in management for 3 years now and a promotion is coming up into middle management but guess what, I'm still doubting whether the extra money is worth the additional stress and moving my family to the midwest, the 9ja in me is saying, ogbeni wetin you dey find grin grin grin
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by mofedamijo(m): 9:25pm On May 03
abbey621:


I'm not even talking about top management like Vice President or CFO, I'm talking about regular management like mid or entry level. Majority of Nigerians are more likely to be good foot soldiers than to dabble into office politics. Nigerians are numerous in the USA, we can be found in almost every sector but only a few of us will ever smell top management, it's a combination of ambition and politics. I've been in management for 3 years now and a promotion is coming up into middle management but guess what, I'm still doubting whether the extra money is worth the additional stress and moving my family to the midwest, the 9ja in me is saying, ogbeni wetin you dey find grin grin grin

Lol....... I totally understand your point. Top management politics is crazy, especially in a place like America.

Those guys will pull any stunt to pull you down. We Nigerians just want to make good money, pay the bills and enjoy life. The stress that comes with those positions can take a huge toll on ones healthy. Abeg enjoy your life jeje.

The best top management position I can go for is when you're the only one on ground who can do the job. Like you have broken several records and nobody else can do it just like you. That way, you have less competition. Anything aside this, na wahala. Board room meetings and politics go be like fire.

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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Icumsa45(m): 9:28pm On May 03
Ofodirinwa:


If two Chinese people are speaking chinese to each other will you disturb them with your logic, or will you respect it? Or is it only africans that have to speak english when you walk in the room? If two english people are speaking to each other will you demand they speak Yoruba?

If you want to talk to them learn Yoruba. If you don't want to talk to them leave them alone because they're not talking to you.

It's like you are not used to mingling with different cultures. The whole world is not for one language alone, when in the midst of others you should respect that others different from you are around especially in a team like environment. If you are in your territory, you can blow your dialect as you please no offence in that.

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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Ofodirinwa: 10:44pm On May 03
Icumsa45:


It's like you are not used to mingling with different cultures. The whole world is not for one language alone, when in the midst of others you should respect that others different from you are around especially in a team like environment. If you are in your territory, you can blow your dialect as you please no offence in that.

lol you're saying what you don't know. Once you leave Nigeria you will realize not speaking your language is more offensive than speaking it. You're not in England and your speaking English but Yoruba shouldn't exist outside of where? The people saying this nonsense are even immigrants to the southwest who will arrive in another's territory and get stressed that they're speaking another language. If you go to France and they're speaking French, you won't say kpim. But in Lagos people should hide to speak Yoruba.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Angeldemon: 12:37am On May 04
Nothing wrong with our culture. You Nigerians just have inferiority complex once you come to this western countries.
The asians maintain their culture and behavior anywhere they go and they are the ones creating all the civilized technologies we all use to type rubbish on the internet claiming woke.
You so called blacks dont do anything but use still you will be copying useless western cultures that have been certified to be failures in every area asides technology.
Better appreciate your culture and be proud to show it everywhere. The west are frantically trying to associate with Africa nowadays in everything but you slave minded ones that managed to get visa here will be forming like you are more white than the whites.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Gval123: 7:30am On May 04
Take these lessons, very important. As u day naija now, u may not see these part of u, but when u don move, u go begin see say u day exhibit these things way this person talk about so. Na normal for Nigerians , because from where we come from, that is how to be a good person. But oyibo nor like that kind of good oh. In fact, if u day greet oyibo good morning of afternoon for work place, depend on the time, them day look u like fool. In fact, since i stop greeting my boss good morning, him like me more. Now, na to just call am by e name and ask him how are u? e day happy. Guy learn oh, make them nor turn u to learner.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by 9jaRealist: 8:36am On May 04
TaminaliaCatapa:
Shortcomings of the “Nigerian culture” in official places of management abroad

This is NOT “Nigerian culture”...smh

Perhaps it is Kpako, street or village people culture...
But some of us were raised in Nigeria to be SOPHISTICATED, SELF-CONFIDENT, ASSURED and GLOBALIZED!

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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by BigBashiru: 10:37am On May 04
mofedamijo:


Lol....... I totally understand your point. Top management politics is crazy, especially in a place like America.

Those guys will pull any stunt to pull you down. We Nigerians just want to make good money, pay the bills and enjoy life. The stress that comes with those positions can take a huge toll on ones healthy. Abeg enjoy your life jeje.

The best top management position I can go for is when you're the only one on ground who can do the job. Like you have broken several records and nobody else can do it just like you. That way, you have less competition. Anything aside this, na wahala. Board room meetings and politics go be like fire.
Some jobs are scape goat positions - these are mostly jobs under someone that reports to the board - s/he will put all the blame for profit declines on you so that s/he can preserve their own position.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by BigBashiru: 10:40am On May 04
Gval123:
Take these lessons, very important. As u day naija now, u may not see these part of u, but when u don move, u go begin see say u day exhibit these things way this person talk about so. Na normal for Nigerians , because from where we come from, that is how to be a good person. But oyibo nor like that kind of good oh. In fact, if u day greet oyibo good morning of afternoon for work place, depend on the time, them day look u like fool. In fact, since i stop greeting my boss good morning, him like me more. Now, na to just call am by e name and ask him how are u? e day happy. Guy learn oh, make them nor turn u to learner.
What makes oyinbo culture better than Nigeria's? And why should oyinbo culture be preferred?? I can tell you for free that all round, aside from the chronic liar and selfishness and unpunctual aspects of Nigeria's culture, besides these, Nigerias culture is better than US, UK, and Canada's culture.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by BigBashiru: 10:43am On May 04
Angeldemon:
Nothing wrong with our culture. You Nigerians just have inferiority complex once you come to this western countries.
The asians maintain their culture and behavior anywhere they go and they are the ones creating all the civilized technologies we all use to type rubbish on the internet claiming woke.
You so called blacks dont do anything but use still you will be copying useless western cultures that have been certified to be failures in every area asides technology.
Better appreciate your culture and be proud to show it everywhere. The west are frantically trying to associate with Africa nowadays in everything but you slave minded ones that managed to get visa here will be forming like you are more white than the whites.
Here are the things wrong with nigeria's culture:
1.) Being 5 minutes late and not seeing anything wrong with it.
2.) If someone in Nigeria does not want to respond to you or tell you no, they will either stop responding to your phone calls or turn off their phone - that is very rude. In Canada, they will tell you directly they dont want to respond.
3.) Liar culture - people are dishonest - they tell you they are in Kano whereas they are in abuja - this dishonest culture has permeated the entire Nigerian cultural landscape.
4.) Unseriousness - people do not take their jobs in Nigeria seriously - it has nought to do with high salaries or leadership - it has mostly to do with the unseriousness culture of the country.

If Nigeria can fix these, then the Nigerian culture will be better than oyinbo culture.

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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Icumsa45(m): 7:32pm On May 04
Ofodirinwa:


lol you're saying what you don't know. Once you leave Nigeria you will realize not speaking your language is more offensive than speaking it. You're not in England and your speaking English but Yoruba shouldn't exist outside of where? The people saying this nonsense are even immigrants to the southwest who will arrive in another's territory and get stressed that they're speaking another language. If you go to France and they're speaking French, you won't say kpim. But in Lagos people should hide to speak Yoruba.

Lol this is a faceless forum and you don't know who is who. For your info, I have lived in 3 continents, not visit, so to some extent, I know what I am saying. Probably you travel alot, but you hardly move out of una SW clique, for instance you dey go UK, e no go pass Woolich or Peckham una go stay because that's where una people dey largely concentrated or you go yankee, e no go pass Atlanta or Maryland.

I have close Yoruba friends as in the ones that are accommodating, dem no dey code language for my side.

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Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by Ofodirinwa: 9:24pm On May 04
Icumsa45:


Lol this is a faceless forum and you don't know who is who. For your info, I have lived in 3 continents, not visit, so to some extent, I know what I am saying. Probably you travel alot, but you hardly move out of una SW clique, for instance you dey go UK, e no go pass Woolich or Peckham una go stay because that's where una people dey largely concentrated or you go yankee, e no go pass Atlanta or Maryland.

I have close Yoruba friends as in the ones that are accommodating, dem no dey code language for my side.

a person speaking their language isn't coding their language. Either learn it or leave it alone. When you were going to these 3 continents, were you holding this attitude against those people or do you reserve it for africans?

You can tell me you have travelled which is cool, but you gained nothing from it if this is how you reason or understand the use of language. You must believe you're the most important person in the room if everyone has to use the language you speak even when they're not speaking to you.
Re: Shortcomings Of The “Nigerian Culture” In Official Places Of Management Abroad by abbey621(m): 3:11pm On May 06
Ofodirinwa:


You grew up in a household with 2 adults. Both of them were managers. But in your brain me saying Nigerians are overrepresented in Management is something hard for you to count. Both of them then ended up getting their doctorate or masters but because you relish in self-pity you're in a thread that addresses such people as losers and not real managers trying to prove how your father and mother were fools.

But since you're into IT audit, here's some data for your dense skull.

Average base salary
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18.1k salaries reported, updated at April 29, 2021
$56,856
per year
The average salary for a manager is $56,856 per year in the United States and $10,000 cash bonus per year.
https://www.indeed.com/career/manager/salaries

the average fastfood manager makes the median for managers across the country. But you people are in Nigeria using for father's data to say 'my father was a manager' LOL











10 Nigerians who are big shots in Silicon Valley

TITILOLA OLUDIMUAPRIL 20, 2017

There is an unofficial saying that Nigerians are everywhere on the face of the earth, doing big things. Did you know there are Nigerians pulling major weight in major tech companies in Silicon Valley like Apple? Most people didn’t.

We took out time to make a list of Nigerians that have ingrained themselves in the Silicon Valley tech circuit through their positions.

Remi Dada


Remi is the head of B2C product marketing of YouTube, Sub-Saharan Africa; he was formerly the head of B2C product Marketing, Nigeria at Google.

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He holds two degrees; a BSc in Architectural studies, and an MBA from the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign and Howard University respectively.

He studied Architecture at the University of Illinois and studied Marketing three years after at Howard. He has over 10 years of experience in designing and constructing innovative and collaborative tech office spaces.

Mojolaoluwa Aderemi-Makinde
Silicon Valley big shot; Mojolaoluwa

Mojolaoluwa is a business strategy and development professional with over 11 years experience across various sectors including technology, finance, retail, media among others. She is currently the Industry Manager- eCommerce (Travel and Retail) and Finance at Google.

She has a background in Computer science from the University of Lagos and holds a Masters degree in Management and Strategic Information Systems from the University of Bath, United Kingdom.

Ime Archibong
Silicon Valley big shot, Ime Archibong speaking at the Facebook Fireside Chat in Lagos

Ime Archibong is the Director, Strategic partnerships at Facebook. He leads a team focused on accelerating Facebook’s product strategy by establishing partnerships, driving products integrations and unlocking new business opportunities with leading companies across multiple industries and sectors.

He and his team have worked on everything related to Facebook including the Messenger app. He played a significant role in Mark Zuckerberg’s visit to Nigeria.

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Prior to joining Facebook, he was an Advanced Technology Business development Professional at IBM for a little over 3 years.

He is an alumnus of YALE University where he studied computer Science and electrical engineering and holds an MBA from the Stanford University of Business.

Nnamdi Abraham-Igwe


Nnamdi has been the Emerging markets Lead at Google since 2012.
He started his career at Google in 2004 where he was a network engineer and has since climbed up the ladder to hold a lead position.

Nnamdi holds a degree in mechanical engineering from the University of Nigeria, Nsukka. He took a project management course at Stanford University and then proceeded to get an M.S in Telecommunications (minor computer science) from the California State University, East-bay.

Chukwuemeka Afigbo
Emeka speaking on Facebook free basics in Lagos

Chukwuemeka Afigbo formerly worked at Google before joining Facebook. He worked at Google until 2015 before being replaced by Aniedi Udo-Obong. Emeka is the manager, Strategy Product Partnership [/b]focused on helping developers in Africa and the Middle-East succeed by leveraging Facebook’s platforms.

He was also instrumental in Mark Zuckerberg’s visit to Nigeria. He’s an alumnus of Command Secondary School, Abakaliki and the University of Nigeria, Nsukka where he studied Electronic Engineering.

Bayodele Olutu
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[b]Bayodele is the Product Manager- Chrome and Android at Google
, North America. Prior to joining Google, Bayodele was the design, planning and optimization lead at Ericsson. He also previously worked at Celtel and Zain Nigeria and also at Huawei Technologies Nigeria.

He studied mechanical engineering at Obafemi Awolowo University. He holds an MBA, business administration and project management from the Manchester Business School.

Morin Oluwole
Silicon Valley big shot, Morin Oluwole

Morin is the head of Luxury at Facebook and Instagram [/b]where she manages Facebook and Instagram’s global luxury client partnerships. Prior to landing her current role, she was the business lead to the VP Global Marketing Solutions.

She holds a BA and MA from Stanford University in Human Biology and sociology and an MA in Management from Columbia University.

[b]Morin speaks 5 languages and has lived in three different continents.
She joined Facebook when it was a small startup of 200 people.

Bunmi Banjo
Bunmi Banjo at Google office
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Bunmi is the head of Brand, Reputation and Digital skills, sub-Saharan Africa at Google where she leads a team that drives the company’s effort to equip millions of SMEs with Digital skills for jobs and business growth.

She started her career at Google as the Head of SMB marketing, Google Nigeria. She is an alumnus of the University of Toronto where she majored in Psychology and Biology.

Yinka Somotun
Yinka Somotun is the Senior Director, Global Procurement at Oracle. He leads a worldwide team of contract professionals in five international locations responsible for negotiating and managing Oracle’s procurement contracts.

He has a background in Law; a Bachelor’s degree and a Masters degree in Law from the Lagos State University and the University of Lagos respectively. He had previously played legal roles in Texaco and Chevron.

Olaoluwa Okelola


Olaoluwa Okelola is one of the few Nigerian-born software engineers at Facebook. Before he joined Facebook in 2007, he worked as an engineering intern at Google from May 2006 until August 2006 and prior to that, he was an intern at Microsoft.

Olaoluwa is from Ibadan, Oyo State, Nigeria. Having completed his secondary education at the International School Ibadan, Okelola proceeded to Avi-Cenna International School and Howard University, Washington DC, to complete his secondary and university education respectively. He holds a degree in Systems and Computer science.

Olaoluwa has a good relationship with Facebook CEO, Mark Zuckerberg.

The presence of these remarkable Nigerians calling shots in big tech companies in Silicon Valley is evidence that Nigerians are one smartest set of people on planet earth. However, Nigerians can do more to become more by chasing their dreams and aspiring to attain remarkable heights.

Do you know any other Nigerian who plays a lead role in Silicon Valley? Please let us know in the comments section below and we will update this list accordingly.

https://techpoint.africa/2017/04/20/nigerian-big-shots-silicon-valley/



IT Auditor ^Explain that.





Clap for yourself, you've just argued using apples and oranges theory, I didn't know your father and mother making less money made them fools but glad you brought it up. Average salary for a fast food restaurant manager is less than $60,000 according to your own data and you believe this is a salary worthy of a manager? I can see that suffering is in your blood, I made more than that as an entry level I.T auditor. Now in management I am making over $150,000 a year after taxes, if you don't see the major difference between a manager that is earning less than $60k and those earning well over $100k then you are clueless.

Moving on, you highlighted 10 Nigerians in top management, here's a shocker did you know I can also point out 50 Asians in top and middle management in the USA. I can also point out 30 Latinos in the same position. So what makes you think Nigerians are OVERREPRESENTED? Abi you don't know the meaning of the word?

Now when we talk about management in entirety, we are talking about top, middle and entry level. We are talking about CFOs, VPs, Directors, Managers, Supervisors and in some company Team Lead. Your myopic view is so obsessed with searching on Google that you have yet to disprove my assertions. How many Nigerians are in management at Grady, Emory or Northside? How many are in management in the USA as a whole compared to Latinos, compared to black Americans or Asians? For a group to be overepresented shouldn't they at least come in the top 3? Next time tailor your argument on what you know, the data simply does not suppoort your sentiments and bullshit rhetoric!

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