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Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 8:58am On Apr 26, 2011
[size=18pt]Time to give the states and LG more money and de-emphasis the centre.[/size]

1. Revenue formula review upwards for the states and LG to get more.

2. FG roads in town and city centres should be under state control. It does not make sense for the FG in Abuja to BE charge of a road like the " Lagos- Badagry expressway in the heart of Lagos" roads like this all over Nigeria should be handed over to state control. The FG SHOULD only attend to inter state roads, that is roads outside urban areas linking one state to another.

3. All Federal Goverment Secondary should be handed over to the respective state goverments where they reside, admission policy would still remain the same.

4. All Federal University should be handed to state or sold to private individuals, University should endeavour to make money from delving into commercial activiies like commercial farming, fishing, and any other venture capital project. If Uni's cannot practise what they are teaching the kids then they are not worth it.

5. All Airports should be sold off to private individuals, both Heathrow and Gatwick are privately owned.

6. The FG job should be limited to control of the armed forces, foreign affairs, customs and immigration and maybe administrationof Abuja.

7. All roads motorways should be privatised like the lekki project in Lagos.

8. The Local goverments should be given more money and elections at this tier should be conducted by the centre as supposed to the state. How most state LG's vote for an imcunbent Governor I dont get it.

9. If the centre is weak, this do or die policy where people are ready to kill and miamed would reduce to the bearest minimum.

10. Resources Control a definately yes, the derivative to Oil Producing State should be reviewed upwards.

11. These are sailent facts that we have to deal with now.

12. Scrap the N.Y.S.C. makes no- sense.

13. Prune down the Federal Ministries and parastatals obvioulsy some would be scrapped like education and aviation since thoses activities would be at the hands of the state and Private individuals.

14. Prune down the House Assembly including the pay and allowances they get.

15. Five year instead of this 4 year term.

16. Anymore suggestion?
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:12am On Apr 26, 2011
17. Lagos State should be able to control the ports of Lagos but supervision from customs and NDLEA officers would be carried out so that contrabands don.t get into the country. The momey realised a certain % would be kept by the state or city just like the oil producing states. Other Port Cities LIKE Ontisha, Sapele, Warri, should through the help of both the state and private individuals develop their facilties in other to divert traffic from Lagos to other Cities therby pushing up their Revenue Base.

I do not see a reason why a City like Baro in Niger State cannot serve as the main port of Northern Nigeria. The whole fabric of this country needs to be re-organised and same goes like Cities Like Jalingo in Taraba state and Yola in Adamawa State they too can be port cities.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:21am On Apr 26, 2011
18. The only politics that counts is Local Politics, it is Local Politics that touches the Lives of 98% of the people, we should be moving towards enpowering our local instituions and de-emphasis the over reliance on Abuja.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 9:31am On Apr 26, 2011
clearly,you enjoy talking to tourself grin
be careful.
most sensible thread i have seen in a long time.
in order for your suggestions to happen the constitution will need to change and there does not seem to be any appetite for this by those who can change it. in order word those at the centre of the federal gravy train need to abolish themselves.
this is not even an agenda of any party
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:33am On Apr 26, 2011
19. The Nigerian people are being colonized by Abuja, it is time Abuja transfer power back to the people. If there is no booty at centre, Buhari and his cohorts would not be running for Presidential elections un-countable times.  DEMOCRACY IS POWER BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE, people want full control of their resources.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:38am On Apr 26, 2011
clearly,you enjoy talking to tourself
be careful.
most sensible thread i have seen in a long time.
in order for your suggestions to happen the constitution will need to change and there does not seem to be any appetite for this by those who can change it. in order word those at the centre of the federal gravy train need to abolish themselves.
this is not even an agenda of any party



IF any house of assembly men deserve $1 million dollars a year it should be the state men(not that I support such gluttonic salaries and benefits) and not the federal men, what are they doing in Abuja anyway.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:43am On Apr 26, 2011
20.

Competition amongst states leads to development. If people invest and see the returns of their investment, they would be encourage to invest the more in every backwater in the land thereby leading to a wholesale development all around. Competition made Europe what it is today.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 9:45am On Apr 26, 2011
seems to me you are just typing to give your thread bulk. let me help you.
i think you have said  it all you are dangerously close to self indulgence.
why not be silent and see what happens
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 9:48am On Apr 26, 2011
Makes too much sense. But i think
No. 1 and No. 10 contradict each other.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:52am On Apr 26, 2011
seems to me you are just typing to give your thread bulk. let me help you.
i think you have said  it all you are dangerously close to self indulgence.
why not be silent and see what happens

We need the people going to the new house assembly in May 2011 to re-jig our federalism from an overtly centred federalism to more of regionalism or statism where each Governor would be a de-facto President in his/her own right.

Those send to the centre would be errand boys like the way it was in the 60’s. The centre would not be a desirable place to be because the states would be getting the bulk of the revenue.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 9:55am On Apr 26, 2011
Makes too much sense. But i think
No. 1 and No. 10 contradict each other.


No they are not contradictory, Number one, the state gets about 35% of all revenues accrued after 13% derivation have been taken out. The derivation should be increased to say 20% and the states allocation reviewed upwards to say 45% to 50% instead of the current 35%
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 9:55am On Apr 26, 2011
well i quit you are definitely overdoing it too much information and it becomes meaningless.why not write a book.

good luck. i have "tried" for your thread
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by 1025: 10:35am On Apr 26, 2011
clearly,you enjoy talking to tourself Grin
be careful.
most sensible thread i have seen in a long time.
in order for your suggestions to happen the constitution will need to change and there does not seem to be any appetite for this by those who can change it. in order word those at the centre of the federal gravy train need to abolish themselves.
this is not even an agenda of any party

@iwonbaoko,
u and ur types are the reason nigeria is not moving and will not move forward. how can u contribute in such a sensitive matter? must u contribute on every topic. such thread topics will need the best of brains to say things here. if u are interested, u can be a listener.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 10:43am On Apr 26, 2011
1025:

@iwonbaoko,
u and your types are the reason nigeria is not moving and will not move forward. how can u contribute in such a sensitive matter? must u contribute on every topic. such thread topics will need the best of brains to say things here. if u are interested, u can be a listener.



nna
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Nobody: 10:45am On Apr 26, 2011
1025:

@iwonbaoko,
u and your types are the reason nigeria is not moving and will not move forward. how can u contribute in such a sensitive matter? must u contribute on every topic. such thread topics will need the best of brains to say things here. if u are interested, u can be a listener.



nna wey you naa??
how makate??
who dey shop??
dalu
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by bkbabe97y(m): 11:31am On Apr 26, 2011
Wait! Nigeria earns $40billion/yr and has like a zillion Congress men she pays a cool $1million each?! undecided

Yall mo'fuckas nuts for real!
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 11:37am On May 03, 2011
Weaken the centre, we can be 36 commonwealth nations WITH a shared history, give more money to the states, it is better we have 36 strong, financial independent Governors than have a weak, nepostic goverment in the centre. we have tried this current system for 50 years it is not working.

Fashola is clamouring for it, Tinubu is Clamouring for it, we need more people from the SS, SE and NC clamouring for the states to get more from the federation account and complete independence should be given to LG. That is LG elections should be conducted by the centre instead of the current way where State Governors conduct a complete bias elections.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Beaf: 11:53am On May 03, 2011
KnowAll:

Weaken the centre, we can be 36 commonwealth nations WITH a shared history, give more money to the states, it is better we have 36 strong, financial independent Governors than have a weak, nepostic goverment in the centre. we have tried this current system for 50 years it is not working.

Fashola is clamouring for it, Tinubu is Clamouring for it, we need more people from the SS, SE and NC clamouring for the states to get more from the federation account and complete independence should be given to LG. That is LG elections should be conducted by the centre instead of the current way where State Governors conduct a complete bias elections.

That is not true federalism, but a sham.

What we need is for each state to produce its own money and pay taxes to the centre. It is unfair on the ND to suggest that they continue to subsidise states that produce absolutely nothing; maybe even states that do not even encourage kids to go to school, but are always at the forefront of murderous riots. Should govt continue paying them to breed and riot?
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 12:12pm On May 03, 2011
That is not true federalism, but a sham.

What we need is for each state to produce its own money and pay taxes to the centre. It is unfair on the ND to suggest that they continue to subsidise states that produce absolutely nothing; maybe even states that do not even encourage kids to go to school, but are always at the forefront of murderous riots. Should govt continue paying them to breed and riot?


[b]I would not call it a sham, I said they should give more % of all the takens to the states, and the oil producing areas should also get more % to what they are getting at the moment that is the money accrued to oil producing states should be reviewed upwards from the current 13% to 20% derivatives.

What you are proposing is not practical in the sense that we have shared a common history since the almagamation in 1914. When Cocoa and Groundnut used to be the staple for our nation, SS and SE benefited from that largesse, now only a greedy person like u would want all oil proceeds to be given to the states producing the oil.

I am in support of given the oil states more from the proceeds but I am not in support of cutting down what Zamfara or Yobe state gets at the moment just because they are not an oil producing state.

The fact that we have shared a history for well ove 90 years is enough for them to lay claim to any revenue from our common-wealth. It is like a case of woman who is about to be divorced by a wealthy husband because the woman has been living in a peculair style irrespective of her having any source of income, she would be entitled to a large chunk of her husband's estate this is the kind of ruling most divorcee would get in most countries in the west.

We should look beyond parochialism.[/b]
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Beaf: 12:20pm On May 03, 2011
^
Oil palm did more for Nigeria and for much longer than cocoa and groundnuts, in fact Nigeria owes its existence 100% to oil palm. If any state cannot produce money, it doesn't deserve to exist and nobody will subsidise it.
Every state should get 100% of what they produce and only pay taxes to the FG, then that can be shared according to need.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by KnowAll(m): 12:27pm On May 03, 2011
Oil palm did more for Nigeria and for much longer than cocoa and groundnuts, in fact Nigeria owes its existence 100% to oil palm. If any state cannot produce money, it doesn't deserve to exist and nobody will subsidise it.

What you just said is nothing more than blind greed.

Can you imagine Bayelsa State getting 20% derivatives, and 40% of whatever remains after derivatives have been deducted, and what is their population probably less than 2 million. Same thing for Akwa Ibom and Rivers, common greed get levels oh !! this your own greed is unfathamable, if they cannot turn themselves into dubai with that kind of money they should all be thrown into the sea OR Better still let a Yoruba man come and rule them for a while.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by seanet02: 12:30pm On May 03, 2011
Beaf:

^
Oil palm did more for Nigeria and for much longer than cocoa and groundnuts, in fact Nigeria owes its existence 100% to oil palm. If any state cannot produce money, it doesn't deserve to exist and nobody will subsidise it.
Every state should get 100% of what they produce and only pay taxes to the FG, then that can be shared according to need.
That is a reckless and baseless statement coming from you bigoted fishermen. What was the revenue nigeria earned from oil palm compared to cocoa? Hope you know that cocoa revenue was used to hold Nigeria together when oil was at its lowest ebb during the war.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Beaf: 12:36pm On May 03, 2011
KnowAll:

What you just said is nothing more than blind greed.

Can you imagine Bayelsa State getting 20% derivatives, and 40% of whatever remains after derivatives have been deducted, and what is their population probably less than 2 million. Same thing for Akwa Ibom and Rivers, common greed get levels oh !! this your own greed is unfathamable, if they cannot turn themselves into dubai with that kind of money they should all be thrown into the sea OR Better still let a Yoruba man come and rule them for a while.

Blind greed? In the time of cocoa and rubber it was 50% derivatives, so why should anyone get less?
Since oil palm has done much more for Nigeria than coa and rubber ever did, dues have been paid and its time for the oil producing areas to get 100%.

Other areas have all sorts of resources, from huge deposits of gold to uranium etc, its a country richly blessed but with a history of id!ot rulers. What can be done is the oil producing areas provide loans and subsidies for the development of these resourses and everybody enjoys their 100% as well.

Nigeria just has to stop petching on one section.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Beaf: 12:37pm On May 03, 2011
seanet02:

That is a reckless and baseless statement coming from you bigoted fishermen. What was the revenue nigeria earned from oil palm compared to cocoa? Hope you know that cocoa revenue was used to hold Nigeria together when oil was at its lowest ebb during the war.

You are talking to your family.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by Pharoh: 5:03pm On May 03, 2011
100% resource control while paying taxes to the federal government or no review of revenue allocation formula that will not favor the oil producing states.
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by ak47mann(m): 3:26am On Jun 26, 2011
is true cos look at northern Nigeria! a bag of rice is over 70% cheaper than southern Nigeria undecided is it because they produce must of the food in the country? i think oil producing states should start selling petrol in their local gas station for 10 naira a liter to balance it angry
Re: Time To Weaken The Centre by civilserva: 10:54am On Jun 26, 2011
Let Nigeria remain as it is! period

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