Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,154,490 members, 7,823,147 topics. Date: Friday, 10 May 2024 at 04:21 AM

Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali - Politics - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali (3312 Views)

Ikwerre People Are Igbo - Andy Wabali / I Am Not Igbo - Wike Clarifies Confusion About His Name And Link To Igbo / Chibuike Amechi Is My Name, I Am Igbo From Ikwere And Ikwere People Are Igbo. (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (Reply) (Go Down)

Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 11:52am On May 18, 2021
Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali.
By Victor Ajihromanus

An opinion leader in the Niger Delta, Mr. Andy Wabali, has clarified that the Ikwere of Rivers State, are not Igbo irrespective of language similarities.
He also said it is wrong to describe the Ikwere as Igbo, saying the ethnic group is distinct from the Igbo ethnic group.
In a chat with Vanguard, Wabali, backed his argument with contemporary examples in the country.
His words: “Clearly, the Ikwere in Rivers State which I am one of them are a very distinct people. We are very different from the Igbo. Yes, there are similarities in language but that does not make us Igbo.

We bear Igbo names like Nnamdi, which has no meaning in my language for instance, when the late Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was the President, some of our people were given the names. Even Goodluck J
“That does not make him Igbo. My people are not Igbo. Culturally, we are different. We might be in the same language group, but that does not make us Igbo. Don’t forget that Igbo language was a language of trade just like the Hausa and Yoruba languages that were used as trading languages in the past. People might be describing us as Igbo, but that is an error because we are different from Igbo.

For instance, in the United Kingdom, the Scottish people are not English, the Irish are not English but they all speak English. In Belgium, the Belgians are not French but they speak French. [/b]Because most people do not read, they take everything they hear hook line and sinker. Most Nigerians do not read. There is intellectual laziness even on the part of our historians. Some just generalize and write reports that can’t be substantiated. [b]We belong to the language group that cut across the Bight of Benin and even Southern Africa.

We are Ikwere people. We are distinct in culture and many areas. Our distinctiveness can be seen in our kinship and anthropology. When people talk about dialects, there are no dialects of English language. So the issue of dialect does not come in. The French language is embedded in English just the way the German language is embedded in English, but these are two different nationalities with different identities. Since Igbo is a language of trade, it is widely spoken just like the Hausa language.

Today, we even have a wrong coinage, Hausa-Fulani, but there is nothing like Hausa-Fulani. You are either Hausa or Fulani. In the Niger Delta, we have a lot of ethnic nationalities. The Urhobo and Isoko are two different ethnic groups. There languages are similar but they are not the same ethnic group. Isoko people are Isoko people while the Urhobo people are Urhobo. It is in that same manner that Ikwere people are Ikwere while Igbo are Igbo.”


(Vanguard)

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/11/ikwere-people-not-igbo-says-wabali/

12 Likes 3 Shares

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Akwamkpuruamu: 11:56am On May 18, 2021
Tell us about the ancestry or origin of the Ikwerres

6 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by ablejesus26(m): 11:57am On May 18, 2021
And who is begging them to be Igbo.?��

24 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by ivolt: 11:59am On May 18, 2021
Hmmhmmmhmm grin

1 Like

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by topboss: 11:59am On May 18, 2021
WE DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT, WAT ANYBODY THINK OR SAY.


IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, WALK LIKE A DUCK, IT IS A DUCK.




THIS IS THE IGBO POSITION.

7 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by topboss: 12:02pm On May 18, 2021
IF WE HAVE IKWERE PEOPLE CLAIMING IGBO AND ANOTHER MINORITY IKWERE CLAIMING NOT TO BE IGBO, THEN U LOOK AT THEIR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE AND IT IS IGBO.



WAT RIGHT DOES ANYBODY HAVE TO COME AND BE SAYING IKWERE IS NOT IGBO?


ONLY IN AFRICA, WHERE WE HAVE DUNCES AND OLODO, THAT DONT KNOW THEIR RIGHT FROM THEIR LEFT.

9 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Armaggedon: 12:03pm On May 18, 2021
BMC una go tire. If you like dig up one million yes post. Biafra must come.

5 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Admissionclass: 12:07pm On May 18, 2021
We know already
Our own is when biafra stand all bini migrants will be deported back to benin thank God they know they are migrants who came to igbo to trade and learnt our language ,its a pity we allowed binni migrants to occupy our southern coast they igbos stay binni will leave.

6 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Siwisheswereesh: 12:08pm On May 18, 2021
True.

But the OP must be a Fulani divide and rule agent.

1 Like 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by festacman(m): 12:13pm On May 18, 2021
Mr. Andy Wabali sweated too much over a minor issue. The truth is even if your parents are Igbo, you still have the right to choose not to be Igbo. However, your choice doesn't change your origin and ancestry.

If language difference is the issue then Ezza people of Ebonyi or Aro people of Abia, for example, can as well not be classified as Igbo.

His argument on distinctiveness in culture is empty because every major Igbo group from Nnewi, Owerri, Ihiala, Afikpo, Bendes, Arochukwu, etc has distinct culture with respect to marriage, burial, festivals, etc. However, there are basic features that show Igbonness in each of these cultures.

Ikwere people are simply Igbo and inspite of unnecessary effort to the contrary, the fact is that many Ikweres know deep down in their hearts that they fundamentally Igbo.

12 Likes 4 Shares

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nbote(m): 12:20pm On May 18, 2021
Very confused ppl. Ur culture and names are all Igbo names even though it is spelt differently but yet U want ppl to believe U are not Igbos. Wabali is Nwabali, They have replaced Nwa with Wa and Umu with Rumu
Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 12:20pm On May 18, 2021
Yes oh.....MY NAME IS IFEANYI AM NOT IGBO...IFEANYI IS BINI LANGUAGE grin

5 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Golan007: 12:23pm On May 18, 2021
grin

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Golan007: 12:24pm On May 18, 2021
ezenwajosh:
Yes oh.....MY NAME IS IFEANYI AM NOT IGBO...IFEANYI IS BINI LANGUAGE grin

Gordon Brown former prime minister of Britain is Scottish.

Perhaps Brown in his name suggests he is English to you.

8 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 12:37pm On May 18, 2021
Siwisheswereesh:
True.

But the OP must be a Fulani divide and rule agent.
Igbo ambition in the Niger Delta is becoming a concern as surely Nigeria is breaking-up. Igbo wont let go these insane hallucinations for people's land who are beginning to have more and more HATRED of Igbos for this delusion of a map of that puts WARRI on the map of Biafra.

While on a Mid-West Movement call early May the talk was dominated on raising money to buy weapons to repel an expected Biafra invasion. I noticed it was led by 2 Anioma Bendelites.

When a handful of Ilorin clerics declared themselves Yoruba Fulanis of Northern Nigeria, Yoruba Nation agitators took Kwara out of consideration and set stiff terms as to condition under which they will be allowed into the new nation despite 95% of Kwara Yorubas wanting to be in Oduduwa. Now that's a people with pride. Not so for Igbos.

A majority Yoruba House of Assembly in the first republic voted to allow the Mid-West referendum. Only Yorubas allowed the new region promised minorities in their own region. The agitation for COR Region was just as loud as the Mid-West but an Igbo dominated regional assembly would not even allow a bill to get to the floor. Yorubas have class and honor. Igbos are becoming really scary people.

By the way Anioma recorded the highest percentage in the 1963 Mid-West Referendum with 93% for YES. The never discussed joining the East. Even when Ojukwu capture the Mid-West, he did not annex Anioma into Biafra. When on September 20, 1967 Ojukwu declared The Republic Of Benin, he did not cut Anioma out. Ojukwu obviously is wiser than many Igbo nairalanders.

8 Likes 2 Shares

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by gidgiddy: 12:39pm On May 18, 2021
jerseyboy:
Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali.
By Victor Ajihromanus

An opinion leader in the Niger Delta, Mr. Andy Wabali, has clarified that the Ikwere of Rivers State, are not Igbo irrespective of language similarities.
He also said it is wrong to describe the Ikwere as Igbo, saying the ethnic group is distinct from the Igbo ethnic group.
In a chat with Vanguard, Wabali, backed his argument with contemporary examples in the country.
His words: “Clearly, the Ikwere in Rivers State which I am one of them are a very distinct people. We are very different from the Igbo. Yes, there are similarities in language but that does not make us Igbo.

We bear Igbo names like Nnamdi, which has no meaning in my language for instance, when the late Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was the President, some of our people were given the names. Even Goodluck J
“That does not make him Igbo. My people are not Igbo. Culturally, we are different. We might be in the same language group, but that does not make us Igbo. Don’t forget that Igbo language was a language of trade just like the Hausa and Yoruba languages that were used as trading languages in the past. People might be describing us as Igbo, but that is an error because we are different from Igbo.

For instance, in the United Kingdom, the Scottish people are not English, the Irish are not English but they all speak English. In Belgium, the Belgians are not French but they speak French. [/b]Because most people do not read, they take everything they hear hook line and sinker. Most Nigerians do not read. There is intellectual laziness even on the part of our historians. Some just generalize and write reports that can’t be substantiated. [b]We belong to the language group that cut across the Bight of Benin and even Southern Africa.

We are Ikwere people. We are distinct in culture and many areas. Our distinctiveness can be seen in our kinship and anthropology. When people talk about dialects, there are no dialects of English language. So the issue of dialect does not come in. The French language is embedded in English just the way the German language is embedded in English, but these are two different nationalities with different identities. Since Igbo is a language of trade, it is widely spoken just like the Hausa language.

Today, we even have a wrong coinage, Hausa-Fulani, but there is nothing like Hausa-Fulani. You are either Hausa or Fulani. In the Niger Delta, we have a lot of ethnic nationalities. The Urhobo and Isoko are two different ethnic groups. There languages are similar but they are not the same ethnic group. Isoko people are Isoko people while the Urhobo people are Urhobo. It is in that same manner that Ikwere people are Ikwere while Igbo are Igbo.”


(Vanguard)

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/11/ikwere-people-not-igbo-says-wabali/

Im a bit confused here. The same Andy Wabali that said Ikwerres are Igbos in the video below? Or are there two different Andy Wabali?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdkLJoj_SAk&t=894s

11 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 12:40pm On May 18, 2021
Golan007:


Gordon Brown former prime minister of Britain is Scottish.

Perhaps Brown in his name suggests he is English to you.
you said he's GORDON BROWN YES?

GORDON SHOWS HE'S SCOT RIGHT?

IT'S SIMPLE YOU KNOW WHERE SOMEONE FROM BY THEIR SURNAME, VILLAGE NAME, CULTURE, MODE OF DRESSING AND WIDELY SPOKEN LANGUAGE

AN IKWERE MAN IS IGBO BECAUSE (IKWERE) IT SELF IS IGBO....YOU CAN EVEN SEE VILLAGE NAMES LIKE (UMU EHI, UMUEKE, UMU EZE, UMU ELE, UMU IGWE, EKU UCHE, ADANTA etc.. INSIDE THAT IKWERE

YOU SEE SOMEONE ANSWERING SURNAME (CHIKA) CHINYERE NANA AN IKWERE

1 Like

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by BKayy: 12:42pm On May 18, 2021
And this is supposed to be news?
Is there any place where there is notice that Ndigbo are recruiting?
Mtcheeew. Please we don't need distractions right now. We are concentrating on our plan.
The contraption must fall

4 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by goodnessme1(f): 12:45pm On May 18, 2021
Am Proud Ada Igbo from Asaba Delta state.



To me i don't give a fvck about what one claim to be.




God bless Igbo land.

12 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 12:45pm On May 18, 2021
gidgiddy:


Im a bit confused here. The same Andy Wabali said that Ikwerres are Igbos in the video below. Or are there two different Andi Wabali?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdkLJoj_SAk&t=894s

Igbos made him a target for Unity Begging after that write up. On this video day he caved to pressure. He has since clarified. He wants no part of Biafra.

4 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Acidiously: 12:51pm On May 18, 2021
Golan007:


Gordon Brown former prime minister of Britain is Scottish.

Perhaps Brown in his name suggests he is English to you.
Is anyone arguing with you? Any Brit can be the PM. Be it; Irish, English, Welsh Scottish.
Being PM is not exclusive to English.
Even Wes Brown ex Manchester player was English while Celtic captain Scot Brown is Scottish

2 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by gidgiddy: 12:54pm On May 18, 2021
jerseyboy:


Igbos made him a target for Unity Begging after that write up. On this video day he caved to pressure. He has since clarified. He wants no part of Biafra.

This is not about Biafra, this is about what the man said. Thats the ethnic confusion that grips Ikwerre people. Here is Andy Wabali in this video saying Ikwerres are Igbos, then he is quoted in Vanguard as saying that Ikwerres are not Igbos. Confused man! In the morning you are Igbo, by afternoon, you are Ikwerre and "distinct"

I tire for Ikwerre people, some of them have serious identity crisis

7 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Golan007: 1:00pm On May 18, 2021
Acidiously:

Is anyone arguing with you? Any Brit can be the PM. Be it; Irish, English, Welsh Scottish.
Being PM is not exclusive to English.
Even Wes Brown ex Manchester player was English while Celtic captain Scot Brown is Scottish

You don't understand context.

The context here is that despite his Name being "Brown", he is in fact Scottish and not English.

2 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 1:04pm On May 18, 2021
gidgiddy:


This is not about Biafra, this is about what the man said. Thats the ethnic confusion that grips Ikwerre people. Here is Andy Wabali in this video saying Ikwerres are Igbos, then he is quoted in Vanguard as saying that Ikwerres are not Igbos. Confused man! In the morning you are Igbo, by afternoon, you are Ikwerre and "distinct"

I tire for Ikwerre people, some of them have serious identity crisis
It is wise to leave such out of Biafra. Enough Ikweres will never form a consensus to make them a stable partner in Biafra.

1 Like

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by topboss: 1:15pm On May 18, 2021
[s]
Golan007:


Gordon Brown former prime minister of Britain is Scottish.

Perhaps Brown in his name suggests he is English to you.
[/s]


EUROPE IS NOT AFRICA.


HERE IN AFRICA WE ARE TRIBAL ANIMALS, WE DONT ANSWER OTHER TRIBE NAMES WITHOUT GENETIC CONNECTION, EITHER BY A PARENT OR BOTH PARENT.


WE MAY ANSWER EUROPEAN NAMES, EVEN ARAB NAMES, BUT NEVER OTHER TRIBES NAMES.

1 Like

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by topboss: 1:17pm On May 18, 2021
[s]
jerseyboy:

Igbo ambition in the Niger Delta is becoming a concern as surely Nigeria is breaking-up. Igbo wont let go these insane hallucinations for people's land who are beginning to hare them more and more HATRED of Igbos for this delusion on the map of that puts WARRI on the map of Biafra. When on a Mid-West Movement call early May the talk was dominated by raising money to buy weapons to repel an expected Biafra invasion I noticed it was led by 2 Anioma Bendelites.

When a handful of Ilorin clerics declared themselves Yoruba Fulanis of Northern Nigeria, Yoruba Nation aggitators took Kwara out of consideration and set stiff terms as to condition under which they will be allowed into the new nation despite 95% of Kwara Yorubas wanting to be in Oduduwa. Now that's a people with pride. Not so for Igbos.

A majority Yoruba House of Assembly in the first republic voted to allow the Mid-West referendum. Only Yorubas allowed the new region promised minorities in their own region. The agitation for COR Region was just as loud as the Mid-West but an Igbo dominated regional assembly would not even allow a bill to get to the floor. Yorubas have class and honor. Igbos are becoming really scary people.

By the way Anioma recorded the highest percentage in the 1963 Mid-West Referendum with 93% for YES. The never discussed joining the East. Even when Ojukwu capture the Mid-West, he did not annex Anioma into Biafra. When on September 20, 1967 Ojukwu declared The Republic Of Benin, he did not cut Anioma out. Ojukwu obviously is wiser than many Igbo nairalanders.
[/s]


WE ARE IGBO, WE DID NOT CONQUER OUR MINORITIES LIKE THE YORUBA DID AND THAT IS Y SOME OF U NOW THINK IT IS YOUR DUTY TO CONQUER THE GREAT IGBO RACE.


PUTTING YOUR STINKING MOUTH IN MATTERS THAT DONT CONCERN U.

2 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 1:23pm On May 18, 2021
topboss:
[s][/s]


WE ARE IGBO, WE DID NOT CONQUER OUR MINORITIES LIKE THE YORUBA DID AND THAT IS Y SOME OF U NOW THINK IT IS YOUR DUTY TO CONQUER THE GREAT IGBO RACE.


PUTTING YOUR STINKING MOUTH IN MATTERS THAT DONT CONCERN U.

See Painment

3 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by meccuno: 1:38pm On May 18, 2021
[s]
jerseyboy:
Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali.
By Victor Ajihromanus

An opinion leader in the Niger Delta, Mr. Andy Wabali, has clarified that the Ikwere of Rivers State, are not Igbo irrespective of language similarities.
He also said it is wrong to describe the Ikwere as Igbo, saying the ethnic group is distinct from the Igbo ethnic group.
In a chat with Vanguard, Wabali, backed his argument with contemporary examples in the country.
His words: “Clearly, the Ikwere in Rivers State which I am one of them are a very distinct people. We are very different from the Igbo. Yes, there are similarities in language but that does not make us Igbo.

We bear Igbo names like Nnamdi, which has no meaning in my language for instance, when the late Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was the President, some of our people were given the names. Even Goodluck J
“That does not make him Igbo. My people are not Igbo. Culturally, we are different. We might be in the same language group, but that does not make us Igbo. Don’t forget that Igbo language was a language of trade just like the Hausa and Yoruba languages that were used as trading languages in the past. People might be describing us as Igbo, but that is an error because we are different from Igbo.

For instance, in the United Kingdom, the Scottish people are not English, the Irish are not English but they all speak English. In Belgium, the Belgians are not French but they speak French. [/b]Because most people do not read, they take everything they hear hook line and sinker. Most Nigerians do not read. There is intellectual laziness even on the part of our historians. Some just generalize and write reports that can’t be substantiated. [b]We belong to the language group that cut across the Bight of Benin and even Southern Africa.

We are Ikwere people. We are distinct in culture and many areas. Our distinctiveness can be seen in our kinship and anthropology. When people talk about dialects, there are no dialects of English language. So the issue of dialect does not come in. The French language is embedded in English just the way the German language is embedded in English, but these are two different nationalities with different identities. Since Igbo is a language of trade, it is widely spoken just like the Hausa language.

Today, we even have a wrong coinage, Hausa-Fulani, but there is nothing like Hausa-Fulani. You are either Hausa or Fulani. In the Niger Delta, we have a lot of ethnic nationalities. The Urhobo and Isoko are two different ethnic groups. There languages are similar but they are not the same ethnic group. Isoko people are Isoko people while the Urhobo people are Urhobo. It is in that same manner that Ikwere people are Ikwere while Igbo are Igbo.”


(Vanguard)

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/11/ikwere-people-not-igbo-says-wabali/
[/s]

2 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by pek(m): 1:54pm On May 18, 2021
Yea. Same way the Ijesa people are not Yoruba.

3 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 2:03pm On May 18, 2021
pek:
Yea. Same way the Ijesa people are not Yoruba.
Why is Ijesha INSIDE the South West and Ikwere INSIDE the South South and Ikweres seemed ever to be happy about it?
Ikweres are not Igbo. Anioma are not Igbo. They are distinct peoples base on the history of their evolution. This is why some now call what was once a great notion Biafrauud.

3 Likes

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by Nobody: 2:13pm On May 18, 2021
topboss:
[s][/s]


EUROPE IS NOT AFRICA.


HERE IN AFRICA WE ARE TRIBAL ANIMALS, WE DONT ANSWER OTHER TRIBE NAMES WITHOUT GENETIC CONNECTION, EITHER BY A PARENT OR BOTH PARENT.


WE MAY ANSWER EUROPEAN NAMES, EVEN ARAB NAMES, BUT NEVER OTHER TRIBES NAMES.

One of the reasons why IPOB is seen as unserious is that map of Biafra they put out. It's scary to a lot of people not just the Niger Delta. The fact that their are Igbo speaking communities outside the South East does not make it mandatory for them to be part of Biafra. Likewise Oduduwa Republic and the ridiculous map they put out. In order not to look as bad as the people we all want to escape from, we must leave it to every community to make their choice. For now these communities want nothing to do with Biafra or Oduduwa. They will take their stand inside a nation made up of minorities. Let them be.

3 Likes 1 Share

Re: Ikwere People Are Not Igbo —Andy Wabali by chukwunweikeemi(m): 2:19pm On May 18, 2021
[quote author=jerseyboy post=101815044]
I love this explanation and I hope the Igbos will read and learn from it.That there exist a similarity between languages A and B doesn't mean that language A is the same as language B.Isoko and Urhobo are not the same even though they have similarities,Ukwani and Igbo are not the same even though they have similarities.I can go on.Pls my people let's take correction.Thank you.

3 Likes

(1) (2) (3) (Reply)

APC Set To Unveil Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu As Consesus Candidate / The Truth About Peter Obi's Viral Photo / Labour Party Suspends Kenneth Okonkwo And Others

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 65
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.