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Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by BigBashiru: 10:16am On Jun 08, 2021
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by heniford2: 10:17am On Jun 08, 2021
Trash

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Fahdiga1: 10:19am On Jun 08, 2021
You already have your answer. IPOB is loved by sane countries

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Henrydonland(m): 10:21am On Jun 08, 2021
It makes sense but I don't think so because during the civil war Britain, USA and the likes were on the side of Nigeria while France,Isreal were supporters of Biafra.

The British would not want to look like fools if Nigeria ends up dividing.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by BigBashiru: 10:22am On Jun 08, 2021
Fahdiga1:
You already have your answer. IPOB is loved by sane countries

Ipob is a rebel group used by the West to destabilize Nigeria just the same way they use other rebel groups to destabilize Mali, Chad, Burkina Faso and CAR. They now want to use the same strategy in Nigeria.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Fahdiga1: 10:22am On Jun 08, 2021
heniford2:
Trash
Very soon it will be heniford3 cos they will soon ban this one until you get sense
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 10:23am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.

Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 10:24am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


Ipob is a rebel group used by the West to destabilize Nigeria just the same way they use other rebel groups to destabilize Mali, Chad, Burkina Faso and CAR. They now want to use the same strategy in Nigeria.

Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by meccuno: 10:24am On Jun 08, 2021
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BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.
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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Fahdiga1: 10:24am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


Ipob is a rebel group used by the West to destabilize Nigeria just the same way they use other rebel groups to destabilize Mali, Chad, Burkina Faso and CAR. They now want to use the same strategy in Nigeria.
So says CIA director

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by heniford2: 10:25am On Jun 08, 2021
Fahdiga1:
Very soon it will be heniford3 cos they will soon ban this one until you get sense
ban what stop posting trash here enough of ESN and IPOB dude go and hustle

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Fahdiga1: 10:27am On Jun 08, 2021
heniford2:
ban what stop posting trash here enough of ESN and IPOB dude go and hustle
And you are here hustling abi

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Charmingrascal(m): 10:27am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonials law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.


Dear Bashiru who do you think is sponsoring Fulani terrorists or is IPOB & ESN your headache?

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by ThEGodFaThEr103(m): 10:29am On Jun 08, 2021
You should change your moniker from Big Bashiru to Big Su'ęgbę, Big Sugómu or better still, Big Apoda.

Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob are expressing their right to freedom by seeking secession which is not in any way a crime. The only people that should be bundled at the Hague for crimes aginst humanity are Buhari, former chief of staff, Burutai, Lai Muhammed, Garbage Sheu and their fulani herdsmen terrorists.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 10:32am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies
.

The problems those countries have are internal, not the cause of external factors.
Chad for example has had tribal tensions, and these have not been handled well, as has CAR and Mali.
All in all, the problem with most African countries is that they run 'sharing cake' economies, not productive economies. If African countries were ready to be productive, most of this conflict would have ended.

By sharing cake...I mean most African countries sell raw materials and use the money to import. When group A feels left out of the sharing, they complain and insome event take up arms. If group B feels left out of the government postions, they cry marginalisaiton, and eventually may take up arms.

That's Nigeria and many other African countries, even the peaceful ones.(Tanzania is an exception because none of the tribes there have an absolute majority)

If anything...France has been a stabilising force, not a destabilising one...and I say this at the risk of being called an imperalist. France has prevented the situation in Mali and Ivory Coast from degenerating into worse.

(Funnily enough the major power in CAR now is Russia. plus some UN troops.).

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.

Nigeria has always run a British-friendly foreign policy regardless of the government.

2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"

White supremacy is not dependent on there being chronic war in Africa. If anything, white governments won't mind peaceful and prosperous Africa...it suits them better, provides a market for their goods, and helps them get raw materials sans stress

A peaceful Africa benefits the whites more...supremacist or otherwise

3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money

Most arms used in African wars prolly come from Russia and china. The UK is not the leading manufacturer of arms it once was.

4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

Again a peaceful Africa is better for mining companies...they don't have to pay protection money to all sorts of warlords, and gangsters along the way.(Many telcom/it component manufacturing companies would love it if the Eastern Congo was peaceful...no more payment to local warlords X and f for protection to transport tanzanite!) They can just simply pay taxes, transport their goods, and make a huge profit...

The British Government, if it does not have ulterior motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.

I don't like NK or Biafra agitation...but accusing him of instigating secession..is one thing. Actually proving it...that's another thing. COURTS rely on evidence, not on allegations. This does not mean MNK is innocent...it just means that you need a lot more than just 'he is instigating violence'.(And there is evidence some of the violence is being provoked by other factors too).

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by AntiBMC(m): 10:33am On Jun 08, 2021
This op, so you just wake up this morning, I'm not even sure whether u brushed...to come on nairaland and be spewing trash about Ipob.

So if you pple go one day without mentioning ipob, you will die.
This obsession is too much. Keep ur yeye speculations to urself.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by SenatePresdo(m): 10:34am On Jun 08, 2021
Kanu is a Hero.

Buhari is a Terrorist.

Extradicte Buhari to ICC first.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by 360degreess(m): 10:38am On Jun 08, 2021
Henrydonland:
It makes sense but I don't think so because during the civil war Britain, USA and the likes were on the side of Nigeria while France,Isreal were supporters of Biafra.

The British would not want to look like fools if Nigeria ends up dividing.
..you are wrong.the OP is right.white people are evil.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by BigBashiru: 10:46am On Jun 08, 2021
360degreess:
..you are wrong.the OP is right.white people are evil.

Notice that boko haram, iswap and Isis do not operate in uk, France or Germany. These organisations only operate in countries that are either former colonies or where they have strategic interests.

I once read somewhere online that speculated France could be "sponsoring jihadists" in Mali and CAR
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by gidgiddy: 10:51am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.

Why are bothered about Kanu and IPOB? There are much bigger problems in Nigeria like Boko haram, ISWAP and killer herdsmen, all armed to the teeth and killing people all across Nigeria daily

Is it the British government that is sponsoring them too? This got nothing to do with Britain, Nigeria is a failed state

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 10:56am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


Notice that boko haram, iswap and Isis do not operate in uk, France or Germany. These organisations only operate in countries that are either former colonies or where they have strategic interests
.

ISIS affilated people have mounted attacks in the UK (Manchester pipe bomb attack) , France (truck attack, bomb attacks) and so on.

Boko Haram, and Iswap are largely local groups with local concerns. Responding to distant France or Germany is going to be a long ask.

Finally, increased security and surveillance in the affected countries since 9/11, which was a wake up call...has reduced the potential for such attacks. A ISIS terrorist , in order to gain access to the UK, France or Germany has to travel through several airports...which are now high security areas...and which now mean there is higher chance of being caught.

I once read somewhere online that speculated France could be "sponsoring jihadists" in Mali and CAR

Again, the crisis in Mali and CAR has more to do with people 'feeling marginalised' as a result of 'government not supporting us enough developmentally'.

Mali had a problem with triablsism, and then there was the Turaeg issue...with decades of discrimination formenting discontent, which exploded into open insurgency, which heated up 10 years ago, and which led to ISIS millitants taking advantage.

CAR too had issues.

France would prefer a peaceful Mali...and CAR. Easier to do business in such countries.

Finally, law enforcement is poorly funded in most African countries. Nigeria for example spends 1-2 billion dollars on its police...while the same police in the USA has a budget of 10 billion dolalrs in some big cities...we haven't even talked nationwide. Poor funding for the police means that they cannot respond to law breaking effectively...which icnreases people's alienation from the police...which forments trobule.


AGAIN...African countries are resource dependent and over importers...which means that there aren't enough jobs because the industrial sector is stifled by overimportation....which means more idle hands,...which means more crisis.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by BigBashiru: 10:58am On Jun 08, 2021
Beancounter93:
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The problems those countries have are internal, not the cause of external factors.
Chad for example has had tribal tensions, and these have not been handled well, as has CAR and Mali.
All in all, the problem with most African countries is that they run 'sharing cake' economies, not productive economies. If African countries were ready to be productive, most of this conflict would have ended.

By sharing cake...I mean most African countries sell raw materials and use the money to import. When group A feels left out of the sharing, they complain and insome event take up arms. If group B feels left out of the government postions, they cry marginalisaiton, and eventually may take up arms.

That's Nigeria and many other African countries, even the peaceful ones.(Tanzania is an exception because none of the tribes there have an absolute majority)

If anything...France has been a stabilising force, not a destabilising one...and I say this at the risk of being called an imperalist. France has prevented the situation in Mali and Ivory Coast from degenerating into worse.

(Funnily enough the major power in CAR now is Russia. plus some UN troops.).



Nigeria has always run a British-friendly foreign policy regardless of the government.



White supremacy is not dependent on there being chronic war in Africa. If anything, white governments won't mind peaceful and prosperous Africa...it suits them better, provides a market for their goods, and helps them get raw materials sans stress

A peaceful Africa benefits the whites more...supremacist or otherwise



Most arms used in African wars prolly come from Russia and china. The UK is not the leading manufacturer of arms it once was.



Again a peaceful Africa is better for mining companies...they don't have to pay protection money to all sorts of warlords, and gangsters along the way.(Many telcom/it component manufacturing companies would love it if the Eastern Congo was peaceful...no more payment to local warlords X and f for protection to transport tanzanite!) They can just simply pay taxes, transport their goods, and make a huge profit...



I don't like NK or Biafra agitation...but accusing him of instigating secession..is one thing. Actually proving it...that's another thing. COURTS rely on evidence, not on allegations. This does not mean MNK is innocent...it just means that you need a lot more than just 'he is instigating violence'.(And there is evidence some of the violence is being provoked by other factors too).

A peaceful Africa isn't better for mining because labor cost will go up and the locals will realise the minerals belong to them and fight for their share. It's divide and conquer.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 11:02am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


A peaceful Africa isn't better for mining because labor cost will go up and the locals will realise the minerals belong to them and fight for their share. It's divide and conquer.

And a non peaceful Africa also means higher costs from

1.Hiring security..costs money(Security in warzones don't come cheap. Mercs love their money)
2.Appeasing thugs along the way
3.Having to pay off this warlord and that warlord.
4.Being chased off the mining claim because Warlord controlling area has gotten a better offer...or because the original warlord has been replaced by a new guy who has decided to up the ante
5.Bad workers...because no peace=lots of tension=stress=poor productivity.
6.And the workers will still ask for their rights.
7.Ethnic millitias will still be active...asking for their rights too..only this time no moderating infiuence from a central government.


If you were right, countries like Botswana would have been in perpetrual crisis. But no...peace there means miners can mine in peace...no stress...profits made.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Muna4real(f): 11:12am On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


Ipob is a rebel group used by the West to destabilize Nigeria just the same way they use other rebel groups to destabilize Mali, Chad, Burkina Faso and CAR. They now want to use the same strategy in Nigeria.

Bia, nobody is destabilizing Nigeria. Nigeria has destabilized herself. Stop shifting blame.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Naijabad: 12:18pm On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:


Ipob is a rebel group used by the West to destabilize Nigeria just the same way they use other rebel groups to destabilize Mali, Chad, Burkina Faso and CAR. They now want to use the same strategy in Nigeria.

I am surprised at your stupidity. I thought you're intelligent.

99% of Igbos are in support of Biafra. The remaining 1% are the political class.

Now let me shock you, conduct a referendum in old eastern region, if we don't have 99% in support of Biafra, I will denounce it.

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by BigBashiru: 12:31pm On Jun 08, 2021
Naijabad:


I am surprised at your stupidity. I thought you're intelligent.

99% of Igbos are in support of Biafra. The remaining 1% are the political class.

Now let me shock you, conduct a referendum in old eastern region, if we don't have 99% in support of Biafra, I will denounce it.

Ohaneze ndi igbo and other igbo groups are not in support of Biafra.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by nigerianrevolut(f): 12:41pm On Jun 08, 2021
It is beyond the UK and Britain. The South has endured the North for too long. Enough is finally enough. It is time to fly the SOUTH NIGERIA flag.

Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by topboss: 12:43pm On Jun 08, 2021
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BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.
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IS NNAMDI KANU YOUR TRIBES MAN?




IS NNAMDI KANU YOUR FELLOW MUSLIM.




U HAVE NO RIGHT TO EVEN MENTION NNAMDI KANU, BECAUSE HE HAS NO BUSINESS WITH YOU.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by melodyogonna(m): 12:50pm On Jun 08, 2021
BigBashiru:
For anyone that closely studies African politics, it is clear that the former colonial powers (UK, France and Germany) have never really left Africa alone since they physically left. In Chad, CAR, Mali, France is always looking to install proxy Governments that will do its bidding and meet its interests. Francophone african countries are also required by colonial law to deposit 50% of their reserves into the French treasury and to award public sector contracts to French companies.

Nnamdi Kanu is a British citizen in UK. This is pure speculation but UK could be looking to:
1. Install a Government to do its bidding.
2. Cause war in Nigeria to maintain white supremacy - which is to say - "look at Africa, all their countries are at war"
3. Cause destabilisation in order to sell arms and make money.
4. Cause destabilisation in order to win mining contracts.

The British Government, if it does not have ulteror motives should either take Nnamdi Kanu to court for instigating session/ war but should also send him to Nigeria so he can be on the forefront of the war he is instigating.
Why would they take someone to court for instigating secession? I mean, Scotland was granted a referendum, UK themselves was granted referendum to decide about staying in the EU. Lmao this guy, you think social unrest is something new? UK have had them, they know the way to stop it is not to make the civilians angrier. Otherwise you're at risk of having your government overrun by angry civilians who are not afraid to die lol. Every sensible government now will give you the only sensible advice - dialogue

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Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jun 08, 2021
melodyogonna:

Why would they take someone to court for instigating secession? I mean, Scotland was granted a referendum, UK themselves was granted referendum to decide about staying in the EU. Lmao this guy, you think social unrest is something new? UK have had them, they know the way to stop it is not to make the civilians angrier. Otherwise you're at risk of having your government overrun by angry civilians who are not afraid to die lol. Every sensible government now will give you the only sensible advice - dialogue

One thing you need to know about the two referendums you mentioned

1.Scotland referendum: The Scottish secessionists did not start burning things up and down before they got a referendum. What they did is that they first formed parties to advocate for secession, then they won local elections and showed their people that they could run their local areas well...then they allied with the Labour party, then they got some concessions (like the Scottish assembly) then they eventually...after over 70 years of agitation got the UK government...then held by their allies the Labour party...to sign a law allowing for the referendum in 2010...WHICH Ttook place in 2014.

2.The brexit referendum was already written into the EU's founding rules. A member can leave if the majority vote to do so. A member may join if there is a majority vote in favour. That's how the UK joined the EU in 1975...there was a vote...and it went Yes. And that is how they left...again another vote, they left.
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by flamingREED(m): 1:14pm On Jun 08, 2021
I guess an APC supporter's view is one of the reasons we pray "... But deliver us from evil."

How can a people be so evil?
Re: Could Britain Be Sponsoring IPOB/ ESN - Opinion by melodyogonna(m): 1:42pm On Jun 08, 2021
Beancounter93:


One thing you need to know about the two referendums you mentioned

1.Scotland referendum: The Scottish secessionists did not start burning things up and down before they got a referendum. What they did is that they first formed parties to advocate for secession, then they won local elections and showed their people that they could run their local areas well...then they allied with the Labour party, then they got some concessions (like the Scottish assembly) then they eventually...after over 70 years of agitation got the UK government...then held by their allies the Labour party...to sign a law allowing for the referendum in 2010...WHICH Ttook place in 2014.

2.The brexit referendum was already written into the EU's founding rules. A member can leave if the majority vote to do so. A member may join if there is a majority vote in favour. That's how the UK joined the EU in 1975...there was a vote...and it went Yes. And that is how they left...again another vote, they left.
Lmao this guy, you should check more European history, make you understand why their government fear civilians.
I don wash hands comot

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