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America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by BabaEleko(m): 3:18am On May 05, 2011
The code name for Osama during the "purported" hunt down was "Geronimo". Geronimo was an Indian legendary Apache warrior. The Indians, the average American, and many people around the world regard Geronimo as a HERO. So, Osama is Geronimo!?? A hero?!! Hmmm,  Who is fooling who for God sake?!! Who america dey fool nah Eff outta here Obama with your deception!!!

In related news: America won't release pic of his corpse. because they ain't gat none. And they one they photoshopped has been rebuked.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by BabaEleko(m): 12:21pm On May 05, 2011
When Osama bin Laden was killed earlier this week, US officials said DNA testing and facial recognition software proved they had got their man.

However, the lack of actual documentation released to the public (so far), and the fact he was buried at sea so quickly, has predictably seen an explosion of conspiracy theories dreamt up by doubters, or ‘deathers’ – as they’ve have now been dubbed. Here are just a few of them.


1. He must be still alive because there’s no proof

The lack of photos, videos and other evidence, plus inconsistencies in accounts of the raid that killed him, apparently shows the US government made the whole thing up.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid is one doubter. He released a statement to journalists saying: “This news is only coming from one side, from Obama’s office, and America has not shown any evidence or proof to support this claim.” Iranian State television also declared: "the mystery [of his death] has increased”.

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in the Iraq war, also disputed the news on Facebook. She said: "I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid. Just think to yourself - they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead - why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent - just put your flags away and THINK!"

Naturally, several other Facebook pages made by skeptics have been set up, while searches for "osama bin laden not dead," "osama bin laden still alive" and "bin laden not dead" on Yahoo! spiked off the charts on Monday.

Our figures show most of the searchers of "bin laden conspiracy" were from the US states of Oregon, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Indiana and New Jersey.

2. He’s already dead

Ever since the September 11 attacks there have been numerous reports of bin Laden’s death. Back in 2001 Fox News reported he’d died of lung complications in Tora Bora. In 2005 Senator Harry Reid suggested bin Laden was killed in the Pakistan earthquake, while in 2007 Benazir Bhutto said the al-Qaeda boss was murdered by Pakistani militant Omar Sheikh.

Conspiracy theorists reckon official news of his death was kept from the public to continue justifying the war on terror, with the US government periodically releasing fake videos of the terror leader to keep the world convinced. The theory is that because the powers that be didn’t need bin Laden as a terrorist ‘boogieman’ anymore, they finally announced his death.

3. He was taken alive

Controversial Fox News talk show host Glenn Beck is famous for his conspiracy theories and gave a couple of suggestions about bin Laden’s death on his radio show. Firstly, he speculated that Obama ‘ghosted out’ the al-Qaeda leader - which means the Navy SEALs made it look like he was killed when actually he was taken alive, presumably to be interrogated.

4. He knew about a nuclear bomb

Beck’s other theory was that bin Laden was captured to stop him revealing the location of al-Qaeda’s nuclear bomb. This is reference to WikiLeaks documents that show US security officials briefed other countries on the possibility the terror group had a dirty bomb. Beck didn’t explain why the US government would do this.

5. He’s been ‘on ice’ for years

Another controversial US radio host Alex Jones said the US concocted the story to justify a security crackdown. He reckons bin Laden was killed back in 2002 and his body has been “literally frozen” to be rolled out at a later date.

6. He was given up by Pakistan

Website Maggie’s Farm quotes ‘speculation’ (though they don’t name sources) that, contrary to the reports the US acted alone, Pakistan actually knew all all about Osama’s location and offered up the al-Qaeda leader as a “sweetener” to speed US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

7. He was killed as a pretext for war in Pakistan

David Icke doesn’t agree though. No round-up of conspiracy theories would be complete without a contribution from Icke, who has written extensively about the event on his website. One of his theories is that the killing was fabricated to give the US a reason to actually invade Pakistan because they were harbouring the terror chief. War with China, he suggests, then Russia, will follow. Let’s hope he’s wrong.

8. He was killed to revive Obama’s poll ratings

Barack Obama’s presidency has been a difficult one. Universal healthcare, the budget deficit, high unemployment and fuel costs have resulted in low poll ratings and defeat for the Democrats at last year’s mid-terms, when the Republicans took the House of Representatives.

What better way then, some bloggers have argued, to get those poll ratings up than by suddenly killing America’s most wanted man? Writing on a Tea Party website, one conspiracy theorist said: "Don't you think Obama needs something to assure his re-election?"

9. He was killed to trump Trump

There’s no love lost between Donald Trump and Obama, with the property tycoon reviving the issue of the president’s birth certificate last week. Obama responded by first mocking Trump at the White House correspondents’ annual dinner. Then, when the time came for the bin Laden announcement, ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ had to be interrupted on NBC. The host? Donald Trump.

10. His killing was delayed for the Royal Wedding

The close proximity of the Royal Wedding and the death of bin Laden inevitably means some conspiracy theorists have linked the two events.

Firstly, a security expert told The Daily Express that the reason Wills and Kate postponed their honeymoon - possibly to Jordan – was because they had a tip-off on Friday about the upcoming events in Pakistan.

There’s also been speculation that the White House, who could have killed bin Laden on Friday, delayed pulling the trigger for two days in order for the two events not to clash.

11. His date of death is spooky

Osama bin Laden’s death was announced exactly eight years after George W Bush made his now infamous ‘Mission Accomplished’ announcement. Even spookier, it happened 66 years and 6 hours after the world learned about the death of Hitler. That’s 666
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Nobody: 12:38pm On May 05, 2011
Daft to the nth degree
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by texazzpete(m): 1:02pm On May 05, 2011
Too daft to be left alive lest his daft genes taint the next generation of Nigerians.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 1:15pm On May 05, 2011
Anyone who believes OBL was killed by the Americans as announced can believe anything.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Nobody: 6:28pm On May 05, 2011
@ 10cirenoh
I guess  grin I believe anything

Why would they leave a crashed top of the range US helicopter if their raid never happened.

Why leave witnesses behind (residents of the compound) who could contradict their story?

Why will OBL's own daughter say that the US had indeed killed OBL during the raid?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 6:37pm On May 05, 2011
^^^^
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Nobody: 6:57pm On May 05, 2011
So you agree now? grin
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 7:12pm On May 05, 2011
^^^

That there was ever an Osama?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Nobody: 7:23pm On May 05, 2011
^^ That Osama was killed by the US in the raid of his compound
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Everfrank(m): 7:35pm On May 05, 2011
Believe this you'll believe anything. Americans will no doubt have released his pictures no matter how graphic the contents. Call me a skeptic. But I need more than the word of mouth, not even Obama's, to believe this gimmick.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 3:17pm On May 06, 2011
GenBuhari:

^^ That Osama was killed by the US in the raid of his compound

So all of a sudden, he has a compound, i thought the US said he used to live in the cave off Pakistan border?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Mariory(m): 3:30pm On May 06, 2011
@10cirenoh

Maybe you should speak to Al Qaeda since you appear to know more than them about their leader. They seem to have been as hoodwinked as the rest of us by America. *rolleyes*

Al-Qaeda has confirmed the death of its leader Osama Bin Laden, according to a statement attributed to the group and posted on jihadist internet forums.

The statement said his blood would not be "wasted" and that al-Qaeda would continue attacking the US and allies.

Bin Laden's death would be a "curse" for the US and urged an uprising in Pakistan, the statement added.

. . .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13313201
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 3:47pm On May 06, 2011
^^^

Let them show us the body just as they showed us that of Saddam and his kids, is that too hard?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Bawss1(m): 4:03pm On May 06, 2011
There is no stopping such people. They will always find new material to fuel their conspiracy theories. Show them a picture and they will claim it is doctored. If you provide them with hard evidence they will claim it is fake.  The gains of leaving this killing as it is far outweighs the risk involved in satisfying the doubters. Let them be left alone to continue telling their tales of warped fantasy to willing listeners. The excitement it brings them will gradually inflate them like a balloon till their minds can hold no more theories and will eventually implode under the pressure of such dross.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by donbuchi1(m): 4:49pm On May 06, 2011
this is embarrassing
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 6:44pm On May 06, 2011
Bawss1:

There is no stopping such people. They will always find new material to fuel their conspiracy theories. Show them a picture and they will claim it is doctored. If you provide them with hard evidence they will claim it is fake.  The gains of leaving this killing as it is far outweighs the risk involved in satisfying the doubters. Let them be left alone to continue telling their tales of warped fantasy to willing listeners. The excitement it brings them will gradually inflate them like a balloon till their minds can hold no more theories and will eventually implode under the pressure of such dross.

No body questioned the video and pictures of Saddam when he was killed, so quit that line you're trying to tow, show us videos and pictures, are these request too hard?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by vladimiros: 6:50pm On May 06, 2011
o he person that made his post
1) you are a total fool

so osama daughter and wife would be lying that their dad was shot in fron of them?

2) al qaida confirmed his death
so they are lying?


what if his code name meant hero? does i matter?

o cut long story short
conspiracy theorit are serious fools epic ones
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by vladimiros: 6:53pm On May 06, 2011
o the other conspiracy theorist on this thread

if the so called USA are lying abou killing him

tell me guys, why would a whole al-qaida top USA haters


CONFIRM HIS DAMN DEATH.


think modafuckers think,
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Bawss1(m): 9:24pm On May 06, 2011
10cirenoh:

No body questioned the video and pictures of Saddam when he was killed, so quit that line you're trying to tow, show us videos and pictures, are these request too hard?

The United States is not going to risk the lives of its soldiers and troops who are in the middle east in order to satisfy the doubters. There is a suspected spike in reprisal attacks that will result if the photos in question are made public. A similar trend was experienced when pictures of the Abu Ghraib photos were released so there is no need to risk lives in order to satisfy doubters who, trust me, will quickly find another reason to feed their theories.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by 10cirenoh: 8:40am On May 07, 2011
Bawss1:

The United States is [b]not going to risk the lives of its soldiers and troops who are in the middle east in order to satisfy the doubters. [/b]There is a suspected spike in reprisal attacks that will result if the photos in question are made public. A similar trend was experienced when pictures of the Abu Ghraib photos were released so there is no need to risk lives in order to satisfy doubters who, trust me, will quickly find another reason to feed their theories.


Does this make sense? if they were afraid of losing the lives of their troops, why then did they go about announcing the death of Osama when they know they aren't ready to release evidence and proofs that he has actually been killed?


It doesn't make any sense mr man. this is a pure political stunt to any reasonable human being out there.

Not everyone can swallow a news without thorough investigation and reasonable evidence/facts to back it up.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Bawss1(m): 9:28am On May 07, 2011
A political stunt eh? And yet Al Qaeda has admitted that its leader has indeed been killed?

There is nothing wrong with announcing the death of Osama, his elimination is indeed a remarkable milestone in the fight against terror. The decision to withhold his own pictures is understandable just as the decision to bury his remains at sea. Again it does not help the US' interests in indulging doubters. Besides what is to be gained if every whim of doubters is met? Come on dude.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Horus(m): 10:10am On May 07, 2011
[flash=450,350]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1qlB61mmFg[/flash]

Al-Qaeda created by CIA
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by bilms(m): 11:15am On May 07, 2011
hello, plz who wrote this thing up there, i would like to publish it on my page plz, can i?
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by samuyi1: 11:32am On May 07, 2011
crap
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by vladimiros: 11:52am On May 07, 2011
some people are real idiots to be brining more conspiracy

if al-qaida is created by the usa then who did Soviet Russia fight in the US invasion?

who created the london bombings?

some of you need to shut up
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Bawss1(m): 12:49pm On May 07, 2011
^There is no stopping these conspiracy theorists I tell you.
Re: America Refer To Osama Bin Laden, A Hero. Proof of Conspiracy INSIDE by Horus(m): 3:38pm On May 07, 2011
[size=15pt]A Monster of Our Own Creation[/size]

He was our kind of guy until he wasn’t, an ally during the Cold War until he no longer served our purposes. The problem with Osama bin Laden was not that he was a fanatical holy warrior; we liked his kind just fine as long as the infidels he targeted were not us but Russians and the secular Afghans in power in Kabul whom the Soviets backed. 

But when bin Laden turned against us, he morphed into a figure of evil incarnate, and now three decades after we first decided to use him and other imported Muslim zealots for our Cold War purposes, we feel cleansed by his death of any responsibility for his carnage. We may make mistakes but we are never in the wrong. USA! USA!

Kind of like when the CIA assigned the Mafia to assassinate Fidel Castro and the Mafiosi turned out to have their own agenda, or when Pentagon experts anointed the Catholic nutcase Ngo Dinh Diem as the George Washington of predominately Buddhist South Vietnam before they felt the need to execute him. A similar fate was suffered by Saddam Hussein, whose infamous Baghdad handshake with Donald Rumsfeld stamped him as our agent in the war to defeat the ayatollahs of Iran.


A 2001 video image shows Osama bin Laden
at an undisclosed location.


Awkward, I know, to point out that bin Laden was another of those monsters of our creation, one of those Muslim “freedom fighters” that President Ronald Reagan celebrated for having responded to the CIA’s call to kill the Soviets in Afghanistan. That holy crusade against infidels was financed by Saudi Arabia and armed with U.S. weapons to oppose a secular Afghan government with Soviet backing but before Soviet troops had crossed the border. In short, it was an ill-fated and unjustifiable intervention by the U.S. into another nation’s internal affairs. 

Don’t trust me on this one. Just read the 1996 memoir by former Carter administration security official and current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a book touted by its publisher as exposing “Carter’s never-before-revealed covert support to Afghan mujahedeen—six months before the Soviets invaded.” This dismissal of the claimed Cold War excuse for the backing of the mujahedeen was acknowledged by President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who, when asked by the French magazine Le Nouvel Observateur if he regretted “having given arms and advice to future terrorists,” answered that he did not: “What is most important to the history of the world? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”

That was said three years before some of those “stirred-up Muslims” like bin Laden and the alleged 9/11 plot mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed—whom bin Laden financed, and whom he first met in Afghanistan when both were U.S.-backed fighters—launched their deadly attacks on the United States. The cost of the American response to that assault has spiraled upward for a decade. A defense budget that the first President Bush had attempted to cut drastically because the Cold War was over was pushed to its highest peacetime level by the second President Bush and now with three wars under way equals the military expenditures of all of the world’s other nations combined.

But while Libya and Iraq have oil to exploit, what will be the argument for continuing the interminable war in Afghanistan now that bin Laden is gone? White House national security experts had already conceded that there were fewer than a hundred scattered al-Qaida operatives in Afghanistan, and that these were incapable of mounting anti-U.S. attacks. Clearly, what remains of al-Qaida is no longer based in Afghanistan, as the location of bin Laden’s hiding place, in a military hub in Pakistan, demonstrated. Nor is there any indication that the Taliban we are fighting in Afghanistan are anything but homegrown fighters with motives and leadership far removed from the designs of the late bin Laden.

It is time to concede that the mess that is Afghanistan is a result of our cynical uses of those people and their land for purposes that have nothing to do with their needs or aspirations. Even if bin Laden had been killed in some forlorn cave in Afghanistan, it would not have made the case that he was using that country as a base. But the fact that he was in an area amply populated by the very Pakistani military and intelligence forces that we have armed, and that should have been able to easily nab him, gives the lie to the claim that Afghanistan is vital territory to be secured in what two administrations have now chosen to define as the war on terrorism. 

Source: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_monster_of_our_own_creation_20110504/

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