Please I am a first timer in noiler breeders, I bought 6 of 4 weeks old and another 8 of 5 weeks old from a seller with a week interval between them sometime in april this year, as we speak I have lost 5 of the second set bought and at the verge of loosing another one to infections/diseases. I tried to give them best of treatment in terms of hospitality and medication to the extent that the person selling the drugs to me said I have really tried in terms of spending on drugs. Whenever I complain to them and I am ask to get a particular drug I asked for the most effective of the drugs cos I see the boilers as my pet. The first thing I observed was that their dungs was reddish and I was giving drug to combat it, then I observed one of them has swollen jaw and an eye closed, and I was giving an antibiotics to administer to them all. After then I was asked to buy tonic which I bought and dispensed to them. Eventually the one with swollen jaw died. The unfortunate thing is that I am practising deep litter system and when I observed one of them is not agile, I do use 5ml syringe to administer the drug from the mixture and the noiler wont still survive. Of late I discover they were coughing and I bought crd drugs and administered for 5 days which ended on sunday, so I gave them tonic again, all for me to see one of them with swollen jaw and an eye closed again and it couldn't eat. I have administer antibiotics to it again and I isolated it. Please what can I do? Even if this one will not survive, I dont want the remaining 8 to have issues again. Thank u

Is either the bird you bought have issues or the place you kept them is contaminated.

What is the colour of their dung now?

Are they coughing or sneezing?

Unlike broilers, Noilers are very stong breed, maybe the person selling did not vaccinate them.

Answer the above questions for proper diagnosis.

You can also snap the poo and post it here.

Like the poster above me rightly said, you need to back up your fact and findings with pictures to enable easy and possible proffering of solution.
Now to business of the day, what you have with your flocks is an outbreak of pox which happened to be generally common with noilers since the beginning of this rainfall, get any pox formular wsp and administer..... Pls antibiotics to sick bird is a one way death sentence to the chicken, so avoid such blunder next time.
Since your birds are not much, if you can get the pure unadulterated native palm oil (not the agric type Pls) and administer to them directly by using syringe or spoon to give them Atleast five mil daily, it helps in ridding it off faster.
NB: how to know good and unadulterated palm oil is that it is light and not slurry, dark in color and above all, has an appetizing aroma that can be smelt meters away from where it's kept it being sold.

SAMIexx:
Is either the bird you bought have issues or the place you kept them is contaminated.

I think the birds had issues from the seller which I dont know off cos I brought a poultry specialist home yesterday to check on the remaining ones and she told me. They are kept in a new cage as this is my first time of breeding.

yemmit90:
What is the colour of their dung now?

Are they coughing or sneezing?

Unlike broilers, Noilers are very stong breed, maybe the person selling did not vaccinate them.

Answer the above questions for proper diagnosis.

You can also snap the poo and post it here.

firstly their poo was readish and 2 died already before I could notice that as a first timer, and their cage is made of wire mesh which will not make me see their poo often except I check the ground. Then I complained to a vet who gave me drug for that and that situation changed, then I discovered some are not still feeling fine and antibiotics was recommended, which I administered, and despite that, 2 died again, I then discovered green poo and coughing and sneezing and i was giving crd drugs and yet i have lost 2 again to swollen eyes and jaw. Infact another 2 are feeling feverish as of today

For how long should I administer the palm oil? Then on the issue of antibiotics, it was the picture of one of the bird that I showed to a vet that makes him recommend the antibiotics. As a first timer, I dont know my right from left. The first picture is the one I showed the vet medicine personnel that makes him give me antibiotics and yet I lost the bed. The remaining 2 pictures are still alive but feeling feverishThank u sir

chukskafor:
Like the poster above me rightly said, you need to back up your fact and findings with pictures to enable easy and possible proffering of solution.
Now to business of the day, what you have with your flocks is an outbreak of pox which happened to be generally common with noilers since the beginning of this rainfall, get any pox formular wsp and administer..... Pls antibiotics to sick bird is a one way death sentence to the chicken, so avoid such blunder next time.
Since your birds are not much, if you can get the pure unadulterated native palm oil (not the agric type Pls) and administer to them directly by using syringe or spoon to give them Atleast five mil daily, it helps in ridding it off faster.
NB: how to know good and unadulterated palm oil is that it is light and not slurry, dark in color and above all, has an appetizing aroma that can be smelt meters away from where it's kept it being sold.

EngrBeeholer:
firstly their poo was readish and 2 died already before I could notice that as a first timer, and their cage is made of wire mesh which will not make me see their poo often except I check the ground. Then I complained to a vet who gave me drug for that and that situation changed, then I discovered some are not still feeling fine and antibiotics was recommended, which I administered, and despite that, 2 died again, I then discovered green poo and coughing and sneezing and i was giving crd drugs and yet i have lost 2 again to swollen eyes and jaw. Infact another 2 are feeling feverish as of today

From your explanation here, and the pictures you subsequently posted, your birds might be suffering from cronic CRD, coryza or pox. We should not also rule out the possibility of vaccine failure,salmonella or even E. Colli.

You need to perform this two treatments.

1. Get a strong antibiotic like DOXYGEN/AMOCYCOL, GUMBO ND/VIRAMIX, and CENTRE DICOX/FLOXINOR. mix the 3 drugs together in ratio 1:1 for each for 5 days.

2. Get a Penicillin base drugs like PEN- PROVIT/POX CURE, GUMBO ND/VIRAMIX, and CENTRE DICOX/FLOXINOR. Use it ratio 1:1 each for 5 days.

If all of them has swollen heads or eyes, opte for treament 2.

If the 2 treaments above is not work, you need to take the dead one to Laboratory for proper examination or open the intestine and post the picture here.

Thank u sir, I have just gave them all 5ml of palm oil as suggested by one of us here, meanwhile I was given a liquid drug by a poultry farmer yesterday to use for 5 days but I decided not to give them this evening as one of us here said antibiotics may not be the solution. Am at the cross road here, there is non of the remaining 8 birds left with swollen eye or head. But whichever one that had swollen eye didn't survive despite close monitoring and drug usage.

I lost one of the 3 bird feeling feverish that I posted in here yesterday again this morning when I go to check on them in the cage and another of them is not really moving and preferred to stay in one place. Picture attached. I have given them all palm oil again this morning and also mixed a drug a poultry specialist who came to examine them gave me 2 days ago to use for 5 days but I stopped yesterday to give them palm oil as recommended here.

Pictures taken this morning

All drugs used based on recommended till date since the first bird drop dead, and yet they still keep dying and I just buried the 7th out of 14 birds. There is tonic that I do give them too but it's not in attached pictures

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EngrBeeholer:
For how long should I administer the palm oil? Then on the issue of antibiotics, it was the picture of one of the bird that I showed to a vet that makes him recommend the antibiotics. As a first timer, I dont know my right from left. The first picture is the one I showed the vet medicine personnel that makes him give me antibiotics and yet I lost the bed. The remaining 2 pictures are still alive but feeling feverishThank u sir

The administration of palm oil is a continuous process until all lesions on the face of the birds are cleared but meanwhile, you have a lot to do in terms of provision for heat, because I saw from your picture, the last white bird precisely, there's evidence of cold issue plaguing your stock, to correct this, provide heat source for the birds and administer ginger in their drinking water, when situation have improved, buy a good multivitamin containing electrolyte (example, vitalyte) and administer to them.
Top most, you have to do something about your biosecurity (this means you have to do something about cleaning the pen, I see pebbles as your bedding material, why didn't you use wood shavings

C.R.D

First relax

Even the cheapest CRD drug can cure dat, give it for the recommended days as instructed, if no change, skip one day & continue. Usually u will get rid of it after 10-15 days. U can mix with fowl pox drugs incase they have leisons

Noilers have this problem when growing. Once they are cured they won't be infected again

Get polidine from your veterinary stores,follow label rate and adminster for 5 - 7days. Mix in clean fresh water too and use to disinfect the whole poultry shed and also use for your foot bath. Thank me later
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Thank u for ur concerns and recommendations.
On the issue of seeing pebbles, that's not the case, I practice deep litter system and the bottom of my cage is made of brc wire, I only allowed them to play within the perimeter of the cage to see how they are fairing as that may be difficult to observe in the cage

chukskafor:
The administration of palm oil is a continuous process until all lesions on the face of the birds are cleared but meanwhile, you have a lot to do in terms of provision for heat, because I saw from your picture, the last white bird precisely, there's evidence of cold issue plaguing your stock, to correct this, provide heat source for the birds and administer ginger in their drinking water, when situation have improved, buy a good multivitamin containing electrolyte (example, vitalyte) and administer to them.
Top most, you have to do something about your biosecurity (this means you have to do something about cleaning the pen, I see pebbles as your bedding material, why didn't you use wood shavings

I stopped all drugs as curing one ailment brings another.

Elsueno:
C.R.D

First relax

Even the cheapest CRD drug can cure dat, give it for the recommended days as instructed, if no change, skip one day & continue. Usually u will get rid of it after 10-15 days. U can mix with fowl pox drugs incase they have leisons

Noilers have this problem when growing. Once they are cured they won't be infected again

Your birds are suffering from pox and coryzer

You have to treat each infection one after the other

For coryzer : swellon and watery eyes, open the eyes you will see a white mucus , so remove it and make sure non remain inside and put drop of lime juice into the eyes and , and 1.5 to 2ml of line juice into their water for five days.

For fowl pox : wounds (pox) on the head and face. Clean the spot with lime and apply PKC oil of Jelu on the surface . Get Tridex leave extract and apply the juice 2ml to their water for 5days.

After the first treatment, give them clean water at day six to clear the system and commence the next treatment at day seven. Then give good multivitamins after all the treatment, to help them recover fast


See below for attach picture of Tridex , it's a weed you find it everywhere and people also use it to feed rabbit

1.5 - 2ml of lime juice to 2litter of their water for five days.

And 5ml of Tridex juice to 2litter of water for five days

If you remove the mucus and inject line juice and the eyes is still swellon the next day ,that means mucus is still remaining inside so you have to open the eyes and remove the mucus again and make sure non is remaining then inject line juice again


Am taking from experience , am a noiler breeder. I keeps noilers , get their fertile eggs and hatch to produce noiler chicks

I also wish to breed up to 20 boilers immediately after this rain. What should I get ready.

Somebody help, my 5days broiler are dieing without showing any sign of sickness, there pool is normal, like what could be wrong??