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You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:11pm On Jul 04, 2021 |
Hitler killed millions of Jews yet none of his generation is poor or suffering. White people killed blacks and used us as slaves yet till date they are smarter, richer and better than us. They don't go to mountains to fast and pray yet they enjoy better life expectancy. But a pastor convinced you that you are poor, sick, jobless or suffering bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Abeg remind me what sins your forefathers committed that is greater than slavery #WHYYOUNORGETSENSE 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Missyajoke(f): 6:36pm On Jul 04, 2021 |
What kind of preachers do we have on nairaland nowadays, they say things that are false |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:46pm On Jul 04, 2021 |
Missyajoke: This is not about nairaland preachers, this is about fake black African pastors that turn the bible upside down for selfish interest. To these false preachers, every thing bad is bc of generational curse. I don't blame them, I blame those that believe their false teachings 4 Likes |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Missyajoke(f): 7:49pm On Jul 04, 2021 |
iykbethany: Are you trying to day there is no generational curse right |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Jul 04, 2021 |
Missyajoke:Even the God who inflicted generational curses on His people, Israel, swore by His Name, back in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 , that there will no longer be such in His land. Yet, here you are , thousands of years later, stil believing in that which God never placed on your kind and already took away from those whom He did. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by judedwriter(m): 9:35am On Jul 05, 2021 |
iykbethany: Generational curses are as real as the back of your head. The only thing is that the curses of the white man are different from the black man from Africa... |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:58am On Jul 05, 2021 |
And if you are told why the Pinks are not affected by curses now, you will call me a Racist. The truth is that you are the original people of the book and your Bible stories all happened in Africa. This is already clear for those who have eyes to see. That's why the curses affect you The curses of Deutronomy 28 is still on hold on Africans. They departed from the LAWS YHWH gave them for foreign religions and ways not cast up When the Messiah was on earth people suffer for the sins of their fathers (John 9:2). Today many are still suffering from such curses. All religion are Apostate today and many can't seek their Creator for themselves and do what is lawful to be free. We are Africans and our Ancestors did a lot of evil when they fell from the true way. They can offend someone and the person may enter a covenant with the devil to inflict their generation with curses. You see a family where about 4 children are blind or deaf. There are families that no one can get to 40yrs and many more. So if you say people are not suffering from generational curses in Africa, lay one hand on your head and the other on your eyes and tell your Creator to give you sense and also open your eyes to see clearly. It's only the Messiah that can free all from these curses at his coming. Some people can do it themselves and their are also righteous men who can do it but the Messiah is the only one that can properly do it when He comes. 1 Like |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 1:37pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
judedwriter: So you are saying that the white man is superior to you? Son, kindly emancipate yourself from mental slavery. Africa is poor because of poor leadership and corrupt politicians. That is why most Nigerians are hungry, poor and jobles bc your politicians don't even have sense or ideas on how to grow the economy, they just loot and bc they know that ignorant people like you will blame their uncles and village people for their poverty and joblessness. Get sense will you? 4 Likes |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 2:07pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman: Jesus died on the cross of calvary for a purpose so these old lawss no longer apply. At Job 34:10-12, the Bible says that it is unthinkable for the true God to act wickedly. Also note what James 1:13 says: "When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 2:19pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
iykbethany:You missed the message in his post to you. Basically, he purports that Africans are the original Israelites and that the Messiah, not Jesus Christ, is yet to arrive to free Africa from the Old Covenant curses God put on them, the "true" people of israel 2 Likes |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by judedwriter(m): 3:10pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
iykbethany: Exactly... Bad leadership is a typical CURSE of the black man. It's mostly in Africa that you see sit tight leaders who fear leaving office. It's an african CURSE bro. 1 Like |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:17pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
iykbethany: You are very funny. The Messiah didn't die on cross, He was lynched, murdered, slewed on a tree (Acts 5:30; 1 Peter 2:24) cos they thought he would establish his Kingdom on earth in that era. This was exactly what they did to many Africans who rise up to save their people like Gaddaffi and others. He didn't die for your sins in that era. The thieves who transliterated the bible are those who assumed it to be so. You still struggle with sin. There are even sins we commit that we don't even have knowledge of, that's why we need to confess our sins everyday cos we don't know where we might have erred. His death saved those in heaven not earth (Rev 12:10). Many of you Christians don't understand how the Bible was written, neither do you understand what was removed or added. The Messiah never abolished the laws his father gave Moses. Words that came out from the Father's mouth. His words are yea and Amen. It never returned void . The Messiah was the Word and Law that was given to the children of Isreal via Moses. By the time the Messiah came in the flesh , they have corrupted it with many man made doctrines. The Messiah came to fulfil what was written of him. As the Law, he came to simply, abrogate it to what it really was. He came to remove the burdens in the laws given to Moses by his Father. The law was not abolished or done away. You will be judged by law (Matt 7:21-22). The will of his father is His Father's commandments. Sin is the transgression of the law. When you go against the law, you are a sinner! Our Creator is not wicked. If you go against His commandments, you will be punished or die. The wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23) (what they wrote as death was actually a cut off from Him). Trials, Tests, Troubles are what your Creator use to test your faith to know if you are capable. He only works with a strong person. If you don't write tests and exams, you can't graduate. James 1:2,12; 1Peter 5:10; Rom 12:12 |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 3:38pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Keep deceiving yourself. Lord JC aka Jesus Christus is the impostor they sold to you as the Messiah 2000yrs ago. The Messiah was a Hebrew man not a greek or latin. Jesus is not a Hebrew name. He came in the name of his Father, Jesus don't even have the Father's name in it. The true identity of the Messiah was hidden and Lord JC was used to replace him. Your eyes will open one day and you will see clearly Those who know what to do to be free, can set themselves free from the curses. That's what I meant. Many are blind, cursed, in bondage, deaf, oppressed etc and can't be free today for many reasons. And these are very glaring that you can see them around you. When the true Messiah comes not your impostor Lord JC, all will be freed provided they are pure in heart. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by tamonokare: 4:07pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
judedwriter: This one is irredeemably colonised. Oya oga name the different kinds of curses and why theirs doesn't affect them. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 4:19pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman:You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to. You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. 4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? Are you sure I am the one deceived here? 1 Like |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by iykbethany(m): 6:19pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
To the slowpoke that said white men sins abi curses is different from African curses abeg let him tell us why the families of OBJ and all the Nigerian soldiers that killed millions of armless Biafrans are not suffering? Your politicians that have been killing innocent people for juju rituals are all balling till date with their families and you are here telling us how you are poor and ignorant bc of the sins of your fore fathers? Some people are beyond redemption.... 2 Likes |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by FantasyHub: 8:19pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
iykbethany: If u wanna gile the average African use religion. Such a scam, religion. 2 Likes |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:21pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The New Testament you read are just commentaries. All including many things the Messiah said has their root in the Old testament. This is the reason they always quote the Old i.e "it is written". They all refer to the Torah. Many things in the book of Revelations are also in the Torah. Prophet Ezekiel, Isaiah etc talked about them. No where did they tell you about any Lord JC or mentioned such name. When they killed the Messiah, they also killed his disciples and after many years rewrote the book to their taste to what you follow today. The names, geography, stories were all turned and credited to others. This is a mystery you and your Christians can never understand now. I don't have strength to argue. Many things you read in the NT are not what was truly written there. A lot were removed and added. They replaced the name of the true Messiah to Lord JC and the Creator as God. If you are the author of a book, you would not change your name for anything even if the book was translated to all languages in the world. Your enemies are the ones who brought the book to you and they knew what they did there but you Christians are still blind when their lies are very glaring. That is all I can tell you. Continue with your Lord JC. The bible is true but a lot were turned to deceive you all. The Messiah will come first to correct these lies. Many of you will see but will not understand as Prophet Isaiah said. Many of you will see him but will not know why you keep waiting for Lord JC
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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 8:25pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman:Again....You seem to believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Acts of the Apostles, a book written by the same author of The Gospel according to Luke, which you don't seem to take too kindly to. You believe what is written of the Messiah in the Book of Revelation, a compendium of John's Dream of the apocalypse, but you don't care for John's other book, the Gospel according to John. The very same Messiah that John spoke of seeing is his dreams is the one he wrote of in his gospels. 4 books, only two authors. You pick to receive what is written in one and you reject what is written in the other from the same author based on what? You even wholly accept with is written in a book of dreams over the same authors account of actual events, this based on what? Are you sure I am the one deceived here? |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 8:31pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Let it be how you understand it. No time for stories. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 8:38pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman:Really? |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by oaroloye(m): 9:24pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
MISHIGAS! iykbethany: ADOLF HITLER DID NOT KILL MILLIONS OF JEWS- THE HOLOCAUST IS A PROPAGANDA LIE. iykbethany: YOU ARE A LIAR: BY 2018, 678,000 GERMANS WERE HOMELESS, WHILE 41,000 OF THEM LIVED ON THE STREETS. iykbethany: ANOTHER STUPID LIE: MANY OYINBOS LIVE HAND-TO-MOUTH, WHILE FEW ARE RICH. They are not smarter than any other race- as their own Schools prove. Their highest achievement is to find better ways to kill themselves. Their beautiful toys and clever gadgets are made by processes that poison their own environment. Fluoride in Toothpastes is a TOXIC WASTE PRODUCT of their GLASS industry. That is how they dispose of it. iykbethany: OYINBOS TRAVEL HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD, TO FIND A MOUNTAIN TO PRAY ON. iykbethany: . EXODUS 20:1-7. AND God Spake all these Words, Saying, 2. "I (am) The LORD thy God, Which have brought thee out of The Land of Egypt, out of The House of Bondage. 3. "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. 4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness (of any thing) that (is) in the Earth beneath, or that (is) in the Water under the Earth: 5. "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I The LORD thy God (am) a Jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the third and fourth (generation) of them that Hate Me. 6. "And shewing Mercy unto thousands of them which Love Me, and Keep My Commandments. 7. "Thou shalt not take The Name of The LORD thy God in vain; for The LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh His Name in vain." GOD HOLDS EVERY HUMAN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE INIQUITIES COMMITTED BY THEIR PARENTS, THEIR GRANDPARENTS, AND THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS. . NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any man Sin through Ignorance, then he shall bring a She Goat of the first year for a Sin Offering. 28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly, when he Sinneth by Ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him. 29. " Ye shall have one Law for him that Sinneth Ignorantly (both for) him that is born among the Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the Soul that doeth (ought) presumptuously, (whether he be) born in the land, or a Stranger, the same reproacheth The LORD; and that Soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath despised The Word of The LORD, and hath broken His Commandment, that Soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity (shall be) upon him." TO REPENT OF OUR OWN SINS IS NOT SUFFICIENT: GOD HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ANCESTORS' INIQUITIES, TOO. . DEUTERONOMY 28:45-61. 45. Moreover all these Curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to keep His Commandments and His Statutes Which He Commanded thee: 46. And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 49. The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the Earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50. A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: 51. And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52. And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which The LORD thy God hath given thee. 53. And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which The LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54. So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55. So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56. The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57. And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58. If thou wilt not observe to do all The Words of This Law that are written in This Book, that thou mayest fear This Glorious and Fearful Name, "THE LORD THY GOD;" 59. Then The LORD will make thy Plagues Wonderful, and the Plagues of thy Seed, even Great Plagues, and of long continuance, and sore Sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60. Moreover He will bring upon thee all the Diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61. Also every Sickness, and every Plague, which is not written in The Book of This Law, Them will The LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. ENSLAVEMENT IS A CONSEQUENCE OF PARENTAL/ANCESTRAL DELIBERATE SIN. The SlaveMaster Nations have the privilege of being able to enjoy the fruits of their Ancestral Wickedness, now, in this Time. They earned that Right by applying Biblical Principles the Slaves did not. . DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9. NOW these are The Commandments, The Statutes, and The Judgments, Which The LORD your God Commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess It: 2. That thou mightest fear The LORD thy God, to keep all His Statutes and His Commandments, Which I Command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged. 3. Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do (It); that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind Them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write Them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. THE SLAVEMASTERS MADE THEMSELVES STRONGER THAN THOSE WHOM THEY ENSLAVED. . DEUTERONOMY 28:1-20. AND it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to observe and to do all His Commandments Which I Command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the Earth. 2. And all these Blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto The Voice of The LORD thy God. 3. Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. 4. Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 5. Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store. 6. Blessed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and blessed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 7. The LORD shall cause thine Enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways. 8. The LORD shall Command the Blessing upon thee in thy storehouses, and in all that thou settest thine hand unto; and He shall Bless the in the land which The LORD thy God giveth thee. 9. The LORD shall establish thee an Holy people unto Himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, and walk in His Ways. 10. And all people of the Earth shall see that thou art called by The Name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee. 11. And The LORD shall make thee plenteous in goods, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy ground, in the land which The LORD sware unto thy fathers to give thee. 12. The LORD shall open unto thee His Good Treasure, the Heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to Bless all the Work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow. 13. And The LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto The Commandments of The LORD thy God, Which I Command thee this day, to observe and to do them: 14. And thou shalt not go aside from any of the Words Which I Command thee this Day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them. 15. But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto The Voice of The LORD thy God, to observe to do all His Commandments and His Statutes Which I Command thee this Day; That all these Curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16. Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17. Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18. Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19. Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20. The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken Me. THE SLAVES COULD HAVE USED THEIR FULLEST FACULTIES OF SPIRIT, SOUL, AND BODY TO ESCAPE BEING ENSLAVED, AND TO ESCAPE SLAVERY. Why did they not do so? What stopped them from doing so? . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (1) TOTAL RECALL. (2) EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. (3) TELEKINESIS. (4) TELEPORTATION. (5) TRANSLATION. (6-10) EVERLASTING LIFE. These are achieved by those who love God with all their HEART, all of their SOUL, and all of their MIGHT. That is the easiest and safest way I know. Do you know any better? The Enslaved surely did not. . MATTHEW 12:22-45. 22. Then was brought unto him one possessed with a Devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the Blind and Dumb both spake and saw. 23. And all the people were amazed, and said, "IS NOT THIS THE SON OF DAVID?" 24. But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This fellow doth not cast out Devils, but by Beelzebub the Prince of the Devils." 25. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and Said unto them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26. "And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his Kingdom stand? 27. "And if I by Beelzebub cast out Devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28. "But if I cast out Devils by The Spirit of God, then The Kingdom of God is come unto you. 29. "Or else how can one enter into a Strong Man's House, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the Strong Man? And then he will spoil his House. 30. "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 31. "Wherefore I Say unto you, 'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN: BUT THE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN.' 32. "And whosoever speaketh a Word against The Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against The Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this World, neither in the World to come. 33. "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34. "O Generation of Vipers, how can ye, being Evil, speak Good Things? For out of the Abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35. "A Good Man out of the Good Treasure of the heart bringeth forth Good Things: and an Evil Man out of the Evil Treasure bringeth forth Evil Things. 36.But I Say unto you, 'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK, THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.' 37. "For by thy Words thou shalt be Justified, and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned." 38. Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, "Master, we would see a Sign from thee." 39. But he Answered and Said unto them, "An Evil and Adulterous Generation seeketh after a Sign; and there shall no Sign be given to it, but The Sign of the Prophet Jonas: 40. "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth. 41. "The men of Nineveh shall rise in Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: because they repented at the Preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a Greater than Jonas is here. 42. "The Queen of the South shall rise up in the Judgment with this Generation, and shall Condemn It: for she came from The Uttermost Parts of the Earth to hear The Wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a Greater than Solomon is here. 43. "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44. "Then he saith, 'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;' and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45. "Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this Wicked Generation." THOSE WHO REJECTED THE GOSPEL, AND BLASPHEMED GOD DESERVED TO BE ENSLAVED UNLAWFULLY! Their descendants also deserved any Fate that could befall them. ALL OF THEM LOST THEIR SOULS WHEN THEY DIED! |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:57pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Yea cos you will not understand. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 11:13pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman:I doubt you even understand what you spew at all. You hack against the Messiah but you believe in the same Messiah. You quoted from Peter's letter to Jewish Christians in exile, where He spoke clearly of Jesus Christ as his Messiah. The Book of Acts is filled with stories of the very same Messiah. [b]The Book of Revelation[/b]s, another book you quoted - which by the way contains only about 20% of that expressed in the book of Ezekiel- mentioned the Messiah enough times for anyone reading to realize the Messiah was indeed a major feature in that dream. Yet here you are trying to tell me that even though the verses you referenced point clearly to Jesus Christ, that the Messiah is someone else? Reading you post reminds of how I felt reading through the "Gospel of Jesus according to Barnabas" some weeks ago. I mean desperation written in every attempt to claim Jesus Christ is only the Messiah while still pointing at Jesus Christ as the Messiah. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:52pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:That's why I said you won't understand. The people who transliterated your Bible are not the owners of the book. They removed the true names and turned the stories. The names you all call are not the original names of the people. See the second meme I posted earlier. They derived that name from the name of their God Zeus. Some truth I may tell you might hurt and shock you. So focus on what you know. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 11:57pm On Jul 05, 2021 |
bobestman:"They" did? OK, So you shouldn't have a problem then pointing me to the "unturned" story you have read out of so I can read it for myself then. Where is the original story to be found? |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 1:30am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:At the right time it will show. Daniel 4:12 tells you the time the sealed book will be unsealed. It says Endtime when many will run to and fro (in a time of trouble or unrest). The true and hidden message/Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached to all who care to hear. This is what the Messiah said in Matthew 24:14 that will be preached as a Witness to ALL before the end (Rev 14:6). This is a kind of gospel different from whatever you all know cos almost all will be deceived by the wicked one even the Elect(Rev 12:9). They will all think they know but don't know they are all decieved. Take it or leave it |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 1:36am On Jul 06, 2021 |
bobestman:1. Oh, so you dont have an "unturned" source but you freely quote from that which you claim is turned , about a Kingdom of God, a Kingdom that was never mentioned as being given to men until Jesus Christ showed up to declare it so? 2. Again, you continue to quote from John's book of dreams, yet ignoring that the same John is author of the Gospel according to John where he claims to have known the same Jesus Christ He writes of as Messiah in Revelations. Whenever your religion puts together it's own book , let me know. Till then, ignore me abeg! |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 10:38am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Another Bomb! You African are far older than those who brought you the book The original scriptures was written in your African languages not in English Your African languages is far older than other languages e.g Swahili is the most old and popular language in the world according to histories How come your stories were written in Greek, Paleo Hebrew and English? They replaced the Son of your Creator to the son of their Greek god Zeus. Whether you believe it or not, there a true Creator and their is an Impostor God ruling the world today. There is a true son of Man and an Impostor son of man who All almost call on earth today The original scriptures is our book not your Christian books. They transliterated from our stories and it is only us the Ancient people that can tell you the truth (Isaiah 44:7). You people were told the Ancient people/first people/original people will teach you all things not your Christians teachers who fell for the half stories. It's our book and only the chosen among us will teach all the hidden truth. So don't tell me I am quoting from your Christian book. It is our book and though the stories be turned, we will still use it to open your eyes to the truth until the Son of Man comes to correct the lies and fulfil the book. Truth always hurt. I can see you are truly hurt so I will avoid you. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 10:48am On Jul 06, 2021 |
bobestman:This is all meaningless to me. I am asking you for tangible evidence of this belief of yours. You claim you believe the stories in the book have been "turned" yet you continue to quote from the very same "turned" book to support you many doctrines and traditions of men. At the same time you speak of worldly concepts as if endorsed by Almighty God Himself. All I see is someone desperate to holding on to the world and its ways at all cost. So until you find your book, ignore me. |
Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by bobestman(m): 11:41am On Jul 06, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:It's our book and those who know will continue to use it to correct you till the true Messiah comes to restore all things. He will correct it. Before He judges all. That's why the true gospel need to go out as a witness to all before judgement.
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Re: You Are Not Poor Or Suffering Bc Of The Sins Of Your Forefathers by Kobojunkie: 12:47pm On Jul 06, 2021 |
bobestman:Again, till you are able to find and share your book, ignore me since I am not interested in tangling with your imagination or anyone else's where God and the things of God is concerned. When you are able to provide more concrete evidence of your ideas, let me know then. All I see right now in you is another doctrine-pusher , no different from the many out there all trying to promote their Kingdom in the name of God . |
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