Righteousness2:
There are sins, evils , abominations and Wickedness whose consequences follow the Generation Especially when Blood is involved.
Blood Speaks! Blood Cries! Blood revenges!
So many people today are Victims of Generational curse.

The Good thing is that as an individual, who Genuiely and Sincerely comes to know JESUS, and Understand who you are in Christ,you can Exempt yourself from it.

Gullah:
Children don't bear the sins of their fathers. Stop putting too much importance to many of those mosaic laws given to the Jews. Jesus is the new Convenant and people are only judged by what they decide to do with Jesus.

"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son." JOHN 3:18.

Your relationship with Jesus is all that matters.

AntiChristian:


In Matthew 5:17, Jesus said:
“Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

AntiChristian:
The Bible demands intergenerational punishment so that children must be punished for their parents’ sins.

1.The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’
Numbers 14:18

2. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me
Deuteronomy 5:9

3 I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me (Exodus 20:5).

4. [God justified a calamity to the people:] It is because your ancestors forsook me (Jeremiah 16:11).

But the opposite claim is recorded in the Bible as well. All man will be punished only for their sins.

1.Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin (Deuteronomy 24:16).

2.Everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—their own teeth will be set on edge (Jeremiah 31:30).

3.The one who sins is the one who will die (Ezekiel 18:4).

4.Yet you may ask, ‘Why shouldn’t the son bear the iniquity of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right, carefully observing all My statutes, he will surely live. 20The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. 21But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.…
Ezekiel 18:19-21

Where does this leave Original Sin? This is the idea that we’re born fallen and deserve hell because of Adam’s sin, which infects us all. What foundation remains for Original Sin if it is undercut by the Bible itself?

freeborn02, Tiiitoo, RightChannel

Gullah:

Jesus didn't come to abolish the law, he came to fulfill them or accomplish them like your version said. Why? Because no man could keep the laws of Moses. If God really decided to judge people by that law then no man will be saved. The bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and another verse says he that says he has no sin is a liar and God's word is not in him. That's why Jesus came, the perfect son of God full of grace and truth. He lived a perfect life, not falling foul of any of the law and thereby accomplishing there purpose. Now Jesus was supposed to be rewarded with Life and blessings for being perfect before the law and men were supposed to condemned with death having not kept the law but jesus did an exchange, taking our punishment of death upon himself and giving his justification and reward of life to all who believe in his name. Jesus has fulfilled the law in his life and death so you don't need to fulfill it anymore, all you need to do is believe in Jesus and you will be saved.

freeborn02:



Since God is evil, according to you, why then were you backing your comment with words from Paul, who was called by the same God? Is it because you are a Hypocrite!

AntiChristian:


You'll only become wise/sane when you learn to respond to questions rather than attacking people.

freeborn02:


And you call the shame you displayed answers?

Answer the question, is your Allah and his pedophile Mohammed trying to outdo Yahweh in murder and bloodshed?

AntiChristian:


If you can't respond to the OP just keep Mute or go sleep. No be by force to comment!

AntiChristian:
The Bible demands intergenerational punishment so that children must be punished for their parents’ sins.


3 I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me (Exodus 20:5).

4. [God justified a calamity to the people:] It is because your ancestors forsook me (Jeremiah 16:11).

But the opposite claim is recorded in the Bible as well. All man will be punished only for their sins.



2.Everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—their own teeth will be set on edge (Jeremiah 31:30).

3.The one who sins is the one who will die (Ezekiel 18:4).



Where does this leave Original Sin? This is the idea that we’re born fallen and deserve hell because of Adam’s sin, which infects us all. What foundation remains for Original Sin if it is undercut by the Bible itself?

fre.eborn02, Tiii.too, Right.Channel

RightChannel:


Jesus Christ is not a sinner, his death and resurrection was foretold in your Quran or bros, you don't have believe again in your Quran anymore?

This is according to the author of your Quran, what can you say about it?

Quran 19:33

"And peace is upon me the day I was born, the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised alive again."

AntiChristian:


You are right and wrong at the same time as Allah says what means "Everyone shall taste death.." Qur'an 3:185
This includes Jesus as God is far above dying. And don't you know the meaning of "shall"? It means will happen in the future and has not yet happened.

And why didn't you bring this verse from the Qur'an?
And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of ‘Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]: Qur'an 4:157

AntiChristian:


1.The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.’
Numbers 14:18

2. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God,punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me
Deuteronomy 5:9

3 I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me (Exodus 20:5).

In the second and third verses (which also explains the first verse) we can clearly see that the scriptures say that the punishment of the fathers will be extended to the following generations PROVIDED THEY HATE GOD. So here we can see there is a condition and this must be highlighted

4. God justified a calamity to the people: It is because your ancestors forsook me (Jeremiah 16:11).

Dude quote the full verse. This is what the full verse says: "Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law" (Jeremiah 16:11) Here the LORD God being a just God was going to punish the children of Israel in the same manner as He did the Caananites, Amorites, etc because they were basically doing exactly what these people God punished did, worshipping false gods. Idolatry violates the first law of the ten commandments and its punishment is death. For the wages of sin is death.

But the opposite claim is recorded in the Bible as well.
All man will be punished only for their sins.
6.Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.
(Deuteronomy 24:16).
7.Everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—their own teeth will be set on edge (Jeremiah 31:30).
8.The one who sins is the one who will die. (Ezekiel 18:4).

9. Yet you may ask, ‘Why shouldn’t the son bear the iniquity of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right, carefully observing all My statutes, he will surely live. 20The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. 21But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.…Ezekiel 18:19-21

All the verses quoted in verses 1-4 are in agreement with the verses 6-9 because the punishment of the Fathers will only pass on to the sons if the sons are also sinners. The very verse you posted, Ezekiel 18:19-21 proves this point. If the son has done right and is just, observing the statutes of GOD he will live because he has chosen not to hate and GOD and hence the punishment of Deuteronomy 5:9 does not apply to him

Where does this leave Original Sin? This is the idea that we’re born fallen and deserve hell because of Adam’s sin, which infects us all. What foundation remains for Original Sin if it is undercut by the Bible itself?

[b] Paul said: "For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died." Romans 7:9. This verse shows the effect of the original sin. Paul being alive without the law is in references to his life as a child not aware of the law or conscious of right or wrong but when the commandment came into his awareness and he knew what was right from what was wrong, sin revived in his and he died. Death here is not in reference to a physical death but to a supernatural death where he becomes unable to relate with the Father due to the residual levels of the HolySpirit present in him. Man is a natural sinner, one that does as he pleases irrespective of the consequence of his actions on others and hence the law was given to provide man with GOD's opinion, the standard, relating to acceptable conduct. However being devoid of the HolySpirit he could not live up to GOD's standard easily and hence there is reward for denying your desires drive by sinful nature for the purposes of living by GOD's standard. This reward was clearly stated in Joshua 1:8 "...thou shalt make thy way prosperous and then though shalt have good success". Hence any man who lives by his desires (sinful nature/original sin) and not in alignment with the law of the LORD is subject to the punishment and if his sons also lead by their desires (sinful nature/original sin) they will inherit the punishment meted to their Fathers (in agreement with Deuteronomy 5:9) but if his sons deny their sinful desires and strive to live in alignment with the law of the LORD they will find mercy and live (in agreement with Ezekiel 18:19-21). [/b]

RightChannel:


What I asked is not what you're answering.

Quran 19:33

"And peace is upon me the day I was born, the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised alive again."

The point of reference is Quran 19:33 and not Quran 4:157, why using diversion tactics? bros is the verse difficult for you to explain?

According to Quran 19:33, who is talking therein?

A. Allah

B. Muhammad

C. Jesus

D. None of the above

Just pick the correct option then we proceed

AntiChristian:


There is no diversion tactics here. Allah is narrating the incidence that happened. Bring the full context of the verse make we see your lies!

Leverage2021:

Muslims are laughing at you right now
Don't run you are on the spot don't shift goal post
Prove your own statement
This is one of the pillars of Islam and you can't proof it
What a mess
What a joke
cc SlyDev theFilmtric NeoWanZaeed
oloyedewaris
Haakeem pls come and help Antichristian he is on the hotseat looking for 5 times prayer in the Quran

NeoWanZaeed:

He's not a Muslim. No tag me to his nonsense

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God the Bible clearly said that everyone is judged with their own specific doings and not for the doing of another person.

I love the way one social commenter put it on radio during the case where one lawyer was arrested by efcc in court "Crime/Sin is not Transferable!" he said.

Adam, Eve Sodom, Gomorrah, sons of God were all judged for their own acts.

MaxInDHouse:


I think the OP is talking about inherited sin which Apostle Paul mentioned in the Bible book of Romans 5:12:

"That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men (including little children) because they had all sinned"

He (OP) is having the feeling that the Bible is wrong saying people have inherited Adamic sin because his own religion taught that Adam never passed on sin to his progenies!

Righteousness2:
There are sins, evils , abominations and Wickedness whose consequences follow the Generation Especially when Blood is involved.
Blood Speaks! Blood Cries! Blood revenges!
So many people today are Victims of Generational curse.

The Good thing is that as an individual, who Genuiely and Sincerely comes to know JESUS, and Understand who you are in Christ,you can Exempt yourself from it.

AntiChristian:
The Bible demands intergenerational punishment so that children must be punished for their parents’ sins.

1. The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation
Numbers 14:18

2. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me
Deuteronomy 5:9

3 I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me (Exodus 20:5).

4. [God justified a calamity to the people:] It is because your ancestors forsook me (Jeremiah 16:11).

But the opposite claim is recorded in the Bible as well.All man will be punished only for their sins.

1.Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin (Deuteronomy 24:16).

2.Everyone will die for their own sin; whoever eats sour grapes—their own teeth will be set on edge (Jeremiah 31:30).

3.The one who sins is the one who will die (Ezekiel 18:4).

4.Yet you may ask, ‘Why shouldn’t the son bear the iniquity of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right, carefully observing all My statutes, he will surely live. 20The soul who sins is the one who will die. A son will not bear the iniquity of his father, and a father will not bear the iniquity of his son. The righteousness of the righteous man will fall upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked man will fall upon him. 21But if the wicked man turns from all the sins he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is just and right, he will surely live; he will not die.…
Ezekiel 18:19-21

Where does this leave Original Sin? This is the idea that we’re born fallen and deserve hell because of Adam’s sin, which infects us all. What foundation remains for Original Sin if it is undercut by the Bible itself?

freeborn02, Tiiitoo, RightChannel

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