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Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Swiperite: 6:05pm On Jul 06, 2021
Good bill. Buhari should accent to it asap. Our security architecture needs to be restructured and positioned to face the looming spates of insecurity.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by berrystunn(m): 6:06pm On Jul 06, 2021
Buhari is working...
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by RighteousI: 6:06pm On Jul 06, 2021
State police will cause civil war
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by REALretep(m): 6:07pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.
Too much grammar

The current centralized national police has failed to secure the country and properly police its citizens, and is therefore due for this overhaul.
Besides, there are still other many other investigative federal agencies.
National police must be scrapped
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by berrystunn(m): 6:07pm On Jul 06, 2021
rayvelez:
Wait and see how useless governor will use it to settle political scores.

Explain how ?
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by heniford2: 6:09pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.
the should have a federal police that's how is been done in case the state can't handle issues
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by tommy589(m): 6:10pm On Jul 06, 2021
JaredNormak:
You guys are just blabbing like hungry goats.

State police brings security closer to the people.

There’s no way a police man of the same tribe with me taking orders from an elected governor will treat me as inhumanly as the regular idiots in the police now treats me. No fücking way billy.

If it gets as bad as it is now, it would be easier to bring them to book not now any idiot can come to the South, shoot someone and then run back to the North because he’s a policeman. Now if Igbo or Yoruba police man unjustly kills anyone in his state, Shey na for the same state him and his family dey live?
Policemen will now apply common sense unlike before because agbacha oso aguo mile.

There are many advantages of State police and they by far, outweighs that of the useless police system right now.

I can go on all day to list them, but I will leave you here.

Why calling me a blabbing goat, must you insult me before you air your opinion? I understand the system needs reform but we shouldn't let emotions becloud our thoughts

I have lived long enough in Nigeria to know the advantages you mentioned are mere thoughts and won't be as practicable. Is the dreaded James Nwafor of Akwuzu SARS not Igbo or Gbenga sars of odeda panti annex not Yoruba.

The last time the three arms of government worked and respected each other in this country was in 4yrs of second republic. Power was mostly delineated and the governors performed with available resources
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by saxha: 6:10pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.
That's why it should be regional police and not state police.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by freegaza(m): 6:11pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.

Gbam!

Imagine El rufai, Abdulaziz Yaro or Ganduje with state police
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by ensamy(m): 6:20pm On Jul 06, 2021
Na wetin Fulani herders cause be this.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Calitoscassius(m): 6:29pm On Jul 06, 2021
Plus all the other rag tags scurities and vigilantes are nigerians that bad? They have more useless security personels than they have hospitals and schools.


Security rags tags and churches are what you would find mostlly in nigeria. What an irony?
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by olatuns2017: 6:30pm On Jul 06, 2021
slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Bunch of pussy asss rubber stamp moda fuckkers

Is this how u want you
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by PeachtreeReside(f): 6:40pm On Jul 06, 2021
THIS


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GREEEEEAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by 27Pushing30: 6:45pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.

America is more diverse than Nigeria

That is why they have state AND LG police

State police can’t even override LG police on many issues . Dem no dey joke with that thing called jurisdiction

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Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by DonroxyII: 6:45pm On Jul 06, 2021
quadriolakunle:
a step closer to the restructuring we want.

I hope Lawan allows the house to hear before say the Nos have it.
The bill will die a natural death and if passed .... Buhari will just hold his assent .... if taken back to the National Assembly.... How Southern Nigeria will get 2/3 to pass the Bill into law is in the hands of Northern Nigeria grin ...

Stew everywhere .... North sabi Bounce south up and down like table tennis
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jul 06, 2021
MadamVanessa:
Our darling daddy will rather agree that all the state have hisbah instead of state police.

Hisbah work more than the state police. No alcohol drinking again, no mannequin on the road again, but you can go and sleep with someone wife, a man of 70 years can marry a girl of 12years old. It's going to be a nice and a great country.
Ignorance is a disease. Hisba simply means police, u can mock as much as u can because u only know how to make ethno-religious bias comment by hisba is much more important than most security agencies. Peace and conflict resolution, vigilante, maintaining moral well being of the Society, resolving marital dispute among others are their major work. If alcohol isn't needed why should some bring it? You ask herders to leave while u still ewt meat like witches.
Your daughter's, sisters start having sex at less than 12yrs either through prostitution or making livelihood but all u see is early marriage which is extremely rare. Many states in ur demigod USA, between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the United States. 86% of those marriages were between that minor and an adult. About 5% of the minors were aged 15 or younger, meaning they would be under the age of consent in all United States territories. USA is among the country with highest rate of underage marriages in the world but they'll not let u see that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
Stop dwelling on religious bigotry and mind ur own business!
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by jeliliadedoja1: 6:50pm On Jul 06, 2021
Elders of southern state like Afenifere, Pandef, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Niger Delta Forum, Middle Belt should convene another meeting to approve the position of Governors and Members of the House of representatives. Southern senators ,Southern Associations of student union (SANS), NLC and TUC ( Southern chapter), Obas, Obis, and all traditional rulers in southern states, associations in all southern states should within 7 days convene meetings and corroborate the position stated above so that President Mohammed Buhari could understand the mood of the people of southern states .Nigeria indivisibility as a nation must hinge on equity, justice ,fair and genuine concern for welfare of every integral component of the Federation.
God bless Federal republic of Nigeria.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by KaluwisxPRO: 7:00pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.

No one is doing away with Federal Police, except like every other federal agency it’s going to be neglected like the Government always does.

What the State Governors will do with police power is what every Federal Government personnel is doing with them at their individual states, so that is old Gist.

You cannot be afraid of the cow and it’s shit. And we cannot continue to live with an archaic style of policing, if you think you’re not safe at a different state, move back to yours where you can feel safer.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jul 06, 2021
Rep. is weak!

Fulani understand this!

They are not bothered. They are waiting for them at the Senate
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by BJanta: 7:19pm On Jul 06, 2021
Freestainworld:
Nice move, let them also grant regional autonomy, let each region control what they have

My friend. so far,so good. It's going to be step by step. We will get there. The more the North yields power, the weaker they'll become. And the stronger the South will be to ask for more and get it. Sofry, sofry catch money.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by BJanta: 7:20pm On Jul 06, 2021
RighteousI:
State police will cause civil war

In your household!
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by omohayek: 7:22pm On Jul 06, 2021
rayvelez:
Wait and see how useless governor will use it to settle political scores.
The thing is, there's absolutely no reason why the governors should be granted any influence over the state police. The proposal to appoint them to a state police board is utterly ridiculous: why not make its members appointable by direct election instead? And while we're at it, why bother with state police at all, instead of enabling truly local policing at the LGA level, with electable sheriffs beyond the control of any governors or state legislatures?

This bill as currently written is a shambolic disaster in the making, only serving to demonstrate how lacking in intellect and diligence the members of the NASS are. All it will achieve is make the already despotic state governors even more like mini-tyrants than they already are.

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Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by omohayek: 7:25pm On Jul 06, 2021
27Pushing30:


America is more diverse than Nigeria

That is why they have state AND LG police

State police can’t even override LG police on many issues . Dem no dey joke with that thing called jurisdiction
That's the infuriating thing about this bill - the drafters couldn't even be bothered to look closely at the American example they've seen in so many movies and TV shows, let alone at how decentralized policing works across other developed countries like Germany or Japan. They just went with the simplest, dumbest proposal possible - they want to hand over personal armies to governors who already have too little accountability.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by 27Pushing30: 7:27pm On Jul 06, 2021
omohayek:

That's the infuriating thing about this bill - the drafters couldn't even be bothered to look closely at the American example they've seen in so many movies and TV shows, let alone at how decentralized policing works across other developed countries like Germany or Japan. They just went with the simplest, dumbest proposal possible - they want to hand over personal armies to governors who already have too little accountability.

Facts only

What a nation
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Akorkor(f): 7:37pm On Jul 06, 2021
My own is hope they won’t owning them salaries like the way they are doing to teachers. It’s that time police will now turn to arm robbers
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by darediamond(m): 7:40pm On Jul 06, 2021
rayvelez:
Wait and see how useless governor will use it to settle political scores.
And the wildness in people will totally consume the Governor because it is locals that would be employed not foreigners. That alone is enough to tame any fucking Governor that want to dare rubbish.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by darediamond(m): 7:43pm On Jul 06, 2021
festacman:
I am pro-restructuring but the issue of delineating the responsibilities, extent of powers and areas of coverage of State police/security outfit as opposed to national Nigerian Police Service must be meticulously and clearly done.

The reality is that Nigerians are ethnic-minded. Therefore, adopting the concept of state police with only indigenes as personnel is a bad idea for National co-existence. Such will lack diversity and become a tool of intimidation by indigenes against non-indigenes resident in the State. It will be easy to conspire and frame non-indigenes for whatever reasons. All it will take, for example, is to plant a gun or illicit drug on the property of a target and buy some witnesses and the suspect will have no non-indigene officer to at least complain to. It will ethnicize the country more.

It will also become a political tool of intimidation in the hands of the State Governors and their lackeys against real and percived political opponents. State governors will become dictators and parties and candidates will rarely lose any election. Our democracy will be messed up.

Given our peculiarities, Nigeria needs a national Police with ethnically-diversified personnel cross-posted to states of the federation to enhance unity and reduce ethnic ethnic-driven intimidation and acts of injustice. State police should only complement national police with clear mandate and specifications.
The outrightly agueable downsides is what you only painted. The Benefits are far more than the downsides. Let ech region or states control it resources. Simple
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Blackdisciple(m): 7:45pm On Jul 06, 2021
And they were against it at first, they all know what the constitution says when ever the people talk about a particular thing rather they will debunk .

Nice move tho
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Holyman3(m): 7:54pm On Jul 06, 2021
rayvelez:
Wait and see how useless governor will use it to settle political scores.

The way Presidency is using army to settle scores. Anuohia
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by EMMY76: 8:05pm On Jul 06, 2021
Buhari will never sign this bill if it gets to his table unless a southerner becomes the president befor it can be considered.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Str8talk21: 8:27pm On Jul 06, 2021
Good one, dis will keep d President Buhari's terrorists kinsmen, d murderous marauding killer fulani herdsmen in check from taking over host communities ancestral lands.
Re: Reps Approve Bill To Create State Police, Security Outfits by Popesuccess(m): 8:55pm On Jul 06, 2021
JaredNormak:
Is anything wrong with you?

If the FG stops funding the police, where will the channel the funds appropriated for the Police force?
Is there any part of the bill that says FG will quit funding the police?
Most you people always Insult someone before saying anything. I agreed with you that is nice and said what i think what will be a problem. Your response was to ask if anything is wrong with me. All those governors that are owning Salaries, are they not collecting allocations every month. This is a national issue and i thought we should discuss it with mutual respect for each other opinion and Observations. Thank you

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