leofab:
they controlled the world cos Europe destroyed itself… ‘when brothers fight to death, a stranger will inherit their possessions..’

that's life.

asamaigho:


Com'on
Which tank?
The T34 russian tank Tokarev TT-33 pistol, Tokarev SVT-38submachine gun,where all made by the Russians, even the t34 was the most reliable tank of its time more reliable than the german panzer.
Till date no rifle is as reliable as d RUSSIAN automav Kalashnikov (AK-47). Which was made for d war but was released late.
Till date every country is trying to replicate the AK-47.
Even d US had to switch from their AR15 to AK-47 during the Afghan and Iraq invasion.
Not even M16 or ar15.

they switched because of dusty nature of afghan causing much jamming in the M16… only usa and uk has fought a conventional full blown war in a country they share no boarder with… and only usa and uk still have that capability.. because of their numerous bases.. Russia tried it with Cuba but didn’t succeed!..

Themandator:



I stated that Israel taught Russia what drone is and you laughed it off and I provided you with the link and here you are providing link of shooting down missiles by Russians in Syria


First, have you agreed that Israel taught the Russians what they know about drone and that their best drones are designed by the jews.


Isreal routinely carries out sorties in Syria after those incidents because Russia knows to keep clear of their interest or Ukraine gets drones from Israel.

funny now you don’t know that 30% of Isreal are Russians..

leofab:
you are a kid.. but let me help you..

https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-allies-u-s-lend-lease-to-the-soviet-union-1941-1945/

Go help yourself. You choose what you choose to see. What the US did was support. Learn the meaning of things, they supported Russia. Russia also manufactured planes, tanks, guns, bombs, uniforms, trucks etc. Before the German invasion, Stalin moved whole factories by rail from places like Rostov to cities in the the Ural mountains, far beyond Moscow. Yes, the US supported them, but that support was not what defeated Hitler. The real support Russia wanted was for the allies to open a second front and ease the pressure on them. That did not happen until 1944, D-day Normandy landings. Before then the British failed miserably in 1943, when they tried to invade through Italy. Like I said earlier, go and read the full details of WW2 especially the war in the Eastern Front and stop posting bits that suit your narrative.

leofab:
they switched because of dusty nature of afghan causing much jamming in the M16… only usa and uk has fought a conventional full blown war in a country they share no boarder with… and only usa and uk still have that capability.. because of their numerous bases.. Russia tried it with Cuba but didn’t succeed!..

The same you who claimed that Russia had nothing but population to offer and that America won the war for them is here admitting that the Russian-made AK-47 is superior to the American-made AR-15. Confused much?

Norwichsailor:

Nuclear weapons is different fro. Icbm and you know USA equally has that too so its tied. Submarines wise the USA has the largest navy in the world and in account of Submarines only the Russians can come close to them

ICBM is just a phrase. Any missile that can travel long distances ( over 5,000 miles) is considered an ICBM. They can either carry nuclear or non nuclear payloads.

asamaigho:


Com'on
Which tank?
The T34 russian tank Tokarev TT-33 pistol, Tokarev SVT-38submachine gun,where all made by the Russians, even the t34 was the most reliable tank of its time more reliable than the german panzer.
Till date no rifle is as reliable as d RUSSIAN automav Kalashnikov (AK-47). Which was made for d war but was released late.
Till date every country is trying to replicate the AK-47.
Even d US had to switch from their AR15 to AK-47 during the Afghan and Iraq invasion.
Not even M16 or ar15.

A lot of people erroneously see America as the country that defeated Germany. The true liberator of Europe was in fact Russia. You do know your history. Well done.

hermesprogidy:

The same you who claimed that Russia had nothing but population to offer and that America won the war for them is here admitting that the Russian-made AK-47 is superior to the American-made AR-15. Confused much?

during second war… remember many German scientists and engineer were taken to Russia and USA. they helped in building Russia and usa space exploration capabilities, rocketry etc… before the end of the war German was way ahead of the world put together in terms of ingenuity..

hermesprogidy:

Go help yourself. You choose what you choose to see. What the US did was support. Learn the meaning of things, they supported Russia. Russia also manufactured planes, tanks, guns, bombs, uniforms, trucks etc. Before the German invasion, Stalin moved whole factories by rail from places like Rostov to cities in the the Ural mountains, far beyond Moscow. Yes, the US supported them, but that support was not what defeated Hitler. The real support Russia wanted was for the allies to open a second front and ease the pressure on them. That did not happen until 1944, D-day Normandy landings. Before then the British failed miserably in 1943, when they tried to invade through Italy. Like I said earlier, go and read the full details of WW2 especially the war in the Eastern Front and stop posting bits that suit your narrative.

the British failed at Italy.. or they smashed through the German lines and turned Italy against the Nazis.. look at the amount of items given to Russia.. Germans were at the gate of Moscow.. Stalin was a man with heart of steel but without usa support they wouldn’t have gone that far..remember out of fear Stalin abs a secret pact with hitler not to attack Russia.. but hitler really need the oil at the Caucasus..

hermesprogidy:
ICBM is just a phrase. Any missile that can travel long distances ( over 5,000 miles) is considered an ICBM. They can either carry nuclear or non nuclear payloads.

Intercontinental ballistic missiles
I'm aware

leofab:
funny now you don’t know that 30% of Isreal are Russians..

And that vitiates the fact the Russia nation learnt how to make drones from Israel and that Israel shot down 5 of Russian fighter jets in less than 5 minutes in a conflict


What is the correlation between the above and this extraneous information

Okay is 8t also because your bogus 30% Isrealis are Russians that Israel was able to mislead their own missile into dowing their own spy plane with 15 personnel on board?

Originalsly:


Bro .... look at what is happening on ground and you can get a good idea who is afraid of who. When US takes it military into what it claims to be international waters and China claims it is their territory.... why is it that the US doesn't stand its ground but always backs out when confronted by China's military? When has China or Russia ever backed off in modern times in any confrontation? China said Taiwan is theirs ... which foreign military has entered Taiwan to prove otherwise? Why not? This is 2021 ... not the 1900's.

Chinese fighter jet backing off US jet. Photo taken from US jet.

Chinese fighter can always Buzz U.S. NAvy ship which operates right In China backyard (South China) sea and its allowed.
U.S. does same to Russia and Russia does same to U.S., it's a normal routine, my pint remains that China can't stand U.S. military force, forget all their propaganda.

Jeromejnr:


Can you please provide facts and data to these statements?

Thank you.

I don't do beers parlour gist and make info based on past glory.

Below is an excerpt from a recent study.

Please quit reading from source that will be confusing you, China have the strongest military force in the world? You really don't know or not updated about military hardware of each country.

Please kindly ask anything and once I'm chanced I do reply you, thank you.

leofab:
the British failed at Italy.. or they smashed through the German lines and turned Italy against the Nazis.. look at the amount of items given to Russia.. Germans were at the gate of Moscow.. Stalin was a man with heart of steel but without usa support they wouldn’t have gone that far..remember out of fear Stalin abs a secret pact with hitler not to attack Russia.. but hitler really need the oil at the Caucasus..

Lol... Churchill failed miserably at Italy, they had initial success when they faced Italian units, but were quickly repelled when German units took over. The beating was so bad that the British had to be evacuated again by sea. It made the British public start calling the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) to Back Every Fortnight.
Your description of timelines is all over the place. Yes, Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler, but that was in 1938, before the outbreak of war, so what's your point?
Lastly, Britain benefitted from American aid more than Russia. The Russians dug themselves out of Nazi grip. Yes, the American supplies helped, but that was not the determining factor. Mind you, the Russian tanks and guns were better armoured than the tanks supplied by the Americans and British. Only the aircraft ( can't remember the name, but it's American) was very useful in the dog fights at the Caucasus.
Let me remind you again, the war in the East was not a war of conquest, it was a war of annihilation. Hitler invaded Russia, to wipe everyone out. Do you understand what that means and how differently you will fight if you knew someone was coming to out rightly kill you?

asamaigho:


We blame winter....but the truth is that d German cup of evil was full God had use Russia to run dem aground.
After d war, two military world powers emerged and they where Russia and d USA.
DAT WAS T BEGINNING OF D COLD WAR.
IF U FOLLOW D COLD WAR, U WILL FIND OUT THAT RUSSIA WAS READY FOR A NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN WITH THE USA. PRESIDENT NIXON,JFK AND FINALLY R.REGEAN FOUND OUT AND HAD TO BACK DOWN.
BROS RUSSIA IS D REASON THE US COULD NOT WIN THE VEITNAM WAR..
WEST GERMANY WAS UNDER WESTERN RULE, WHILE EAST GERMANY WAS UNDER USSR,
UNTIL BORIS YELTSIN AGREED TO PULL DOWN D BERLIN WALL.
WHY USA NO ATTACK RUSSIA TO LEAVE EAST GERMANY?
FUNNY ENOUGH USA CAME INTO D WAR WHEN D WAR WAS ALMOST OVER. SO THEY CANNOT AND CLAIM GLORY BECAUSE OF SMALL JAPAN DAT WAS ALREADY DEMORALISED.
THE TRUTH IS THERE WAS NO REASON FOR D ATOMIC BOMB IN HIROSHIMA.
BRO D RED ARMY NO BE JOKE OO

USA joined the war on December 7th 1941. after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. Japan was at the peak of its powers then. Point of correction, it was the US that demoralized Japan. Without dropping the atomic bombs, Japan would never have given up. You are talking about people who had suicide planes (kamikaze) suicide boats, suicide divers etc.. The entire Japanese population was mobilized for war. It would have been a long and bloody war without the atomic bombs. In fact, citizens were still pumped to fight after the two bombs. It was until the Emperor announced cease fire that the real surrender happened.

BritishNaija:


Please quit reading from source that will be confusing you, China have the strongest military force in the world? You really don't know or not updated about military hardware of each country.

Please kindly ask anything and once I'm chanced I do reply you, thank you.

Oga provide data.

Military news from all over the world I follow everyday?

Stop watching Hollywood.

Jeromejnr:


Oga provide data.

Military news from all over the world I follow everyday?

Stop watching Hollywood.

You are very funny, you are telling who have worked with BAE IN Avionics section before going to join the oil company to quit Hollywood?

If you say you are following military channels all over the world and say China is number one world power, the please change your channel, as you are following the wrong ones.

BritishNaija:


You are very funny, you are telling who have worked with BAE IN Avionics section before going to join the oil company to quit Hollywood?

If you say you are following military channels all over the world and say China is number one world power, the please change your channel, as you are following the wrong ones.

Bros provide data. Not all these beer parlour talk.

DOD is saying one thing and you are claiming something else at the corner of your house.

Why should we listen to you.

SUCKCESSFUL:
I just dey pity China
Even Putin wey dey try impress Russians know say America no be him papa agemate.
You'll never see America doing this kind of shit, anyways them chinks are just showing Dutch courage.

The weaponry America will employ against them is still classified, no be everybody get the info.

Do your research, the whole Europe would've been a German colony if not for the US. France and great Britain are still grateful till today.

Ordinary China wey Japan invade, war is not won by numbers, Hannibal had fewer men but he almost conquered Rome.

Besides the US has Bases, submarines and aircraft carriers in their backyard whilst none of them have any Ally or base near the north American Continent.

Modified

For some chinko fanboys quoting me and talking shit about Russia stopping the Germans and not the Americans.

Do you know how many Americans that died on the D day at Normandy?

Do you know the amount of support and logistics America gave in the war effort Even before joining the war?

The Russians did nothing tangible against the Germans, Hitler almost took Russia, it was natural causes that stopped him ( which by then America American has joined the war, the Germans were fighting on many fronts amidst depleting resources). That was when your overrated Soviet Union came with their tanks and started forming gra gra.

Where were the Russians when Hitler took Austria and Poland their neighbors??
The same Russia will later claim half of Germany after committing war crimes and raping German girls and women.
Y'all just hate the US.

The real MVPs are Britain and the US
Respect the star spangled banner!!!

As for China, they only want Taiwan in order to have more stake in the south China Sea.
Taiwan and Hong Kong are developed and more democratic than mainland China sef, why is China hell-bent on reuniting it? The Taiwanese people are happy, why are the communist not contented with their over 1 billion population? The answer is simple, the Chinese are greedy people!!!!

Obviously you are a person who has been brainwashed by Hollywood movies, did WWII really depend on UK and US?
Have you ever seen the Dunkirk evacuation? Four hundred thousand British and French soldiers, chased like rabbits by Germany, but in the final stages, Germany gave up trying to strangle them, one of the great mysteries of the second World War.
Do you know that Britain almost surrendered like France under the attack of Germany. It was not until Churchill came to power that Britain could resist the attack of Germany with the material support of the United States far away from the battlefield. Britain could not protect itself, but could attack the mainland Germany?
As for the United States, its greatest contribution in World War II was in the Pacific, because the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, in order to account for the people at home, and to avenge, the Main enemy of the Americans was the Japanese.
And in World War II, the main enemy of Germany was the Soviet Union (Russia), and the main turning point of World War II was Stalingrad, not d-Day, and the main contribution of D-Day was to keep the German troops in the west, to make them unable to support the German troops in the east.
So the American and British troops mainly played a role of containment, while it was the Soviet Union who hit the German mainland. In order to occupy Berlin, Germany, in this battle, the Soviet Union sacrificed 350,000 people, but the British and American? They drank beer and coke and watched the Soviets and Germans kill each other and take the fruits of the Soviet victory. Remember, it was the Soviets who took Berlin, not the Americans and The British.
African people, please note that the United States and The United Kingdom are not colonizing the territory right now, but they are colonizing the African people ideologically with a cultural invasion,
In the United States, which has the most serious human rights problems, they have withdrawn from the world human rights organization because of their domestic human rights problems, but it is strange that they often accuse other countries of human rights problems.
The President of Nigeria often lives in the United States, not his own country. They are puppets of the United States. They use this puppet to take all the wealth of the Nigerian people and take it to the United States.
I don't know, the country that looted the wealth of your country, in your mouth, has become a beneinducer, do you have to suffer what your ancestors suffered (being captured as slaves by Britain and America) again?

hermesprogidy:

Lol... Churchill failed miserably at Italy, they had initial success when they faced Italian units, but were quickly repelled when German units took over. The beating was so bad that the British had to be evacuated again by sea. It made the British public start calling the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) to Back Every Fortnight.
Your description of timelines is all over the place. Yes, Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler, but that was in 1938, before the outbreak of war, so what's your point?
Lastly, Britain benefitted from American aid more than Russia. The Russians dug themselves out of Nazi grip. Yes, the American supplies helped, but that was not the determining factor. Mind you, the Russian tanks and guns were better armoured than the tanks supplied by the Americans and British. Only the aircraft ( can't remember the name, but it's American) was very useful in the dog fights at the Caucasus.
Let me remind you again, the war in the East was not a war of conquest, it was a war of annihilation. Hitler invaded Russia, to wipe everyone out. Do you understand what that means and how differently you will fight if you knew someone was coming to out rightly kill you?

look deeply.. before the D-day landings, the evacuation happened in France/Poland and not Italy.. (check Dunkirk) after the first blitz. the Italian front was first opened which cause the changed the Italian perceptions about be nazis.. I don’t kneel the amount of propaganda you have swallowed but if you follow the timeline you will see matching pattern on when usa grands started pouring in and when Russia started making progress.. hitler was wise and a good strategist.. he shared Poland with Stalin so he can have a common boundary with Russia.. talking of annihilation Russian executed over 20,000 polish officers and elites Just so he can annex Poland.. and that was exactly what hitler was trying to prevent by trying to take Russia and spread his socialist regime.. his hate for the Jews was little compared to Stalin hate for them.. bottom line is without usa intervention, Europe and lastly American would have Been German colony while Asia would be Japanese colony especially the pacific theatre..

Note: * starling signed the aggressive pact due to fear
*the Russians have fewer tanks with are inferior to the German panzers.. with far lesser range that they had to dug in..
* Russian wasn’t no match for the German and Stalin has to cry to the allies to open a new front so the pressure can be relieved.. without the Normandy landings the red army would never reach Germany…

Themandator:


And that vitiates the fact the Russia nation learnt how to make drones from Israel and that Israel shot down 5 of Russian fighter jets in less than 5 minutes in a conflict


What is the correlation between the above and this extraneous information

Okay is 8t also because your bogus 30% Isrealis are Russians that Israel was able to mislead their own missile into dowing their own spy plane with 15 personnel on board?

Russians have soft spot for Isreal that’s why…

hermesprogidy:

USA joined the war on December 7th 1941. after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. Japan was at the peak of its powers then. Point of correction, it was the US that demoralized Japan. Without dropping the atomic bombs, Japan would never have given up. You are talking about people who had suicide planes (kamikaze) suicide boats, suicide divers etc.. The entire Japanese population was mobilized for war. It would have been a long and bloody war without the atomic bombs. In fact, citizens were still pumped to fight after the two bombs. It was until the Emperor announced cease fire that the real surrender happened.

Bro go back to history na....the Japanese where ready to surrender bvrn before d atomic bomb.
The main battle of WWII was between d Germans and the Russians.
Every other battle was a side attraction.

asamaigho:


Bro go back to history na....the Japanese where ready to surrender bvrn before d atomic bomb.
The main battle of WWII was between d Germans and the Russians.
Every other battle was a side attraction.

AGREE

asamaigho:


Bro go back to history na....the Japanese where ready to surrender bvrn before d atomic bomb.
The main battle of WWII was between d Germans and the Russians.
Every other battle was a side attraction.

Bro, they were not. You have no idea how fanatical the Japanese were. Surrender is not in their dictionary. It's against the Samurai code to surrender. They rather die than surrender, that is why the Japanese were extremely cruel to captured soldiers. Why do you think they had suicide weapons? Even as they attacked Pearl Harbor, once their planes ran out of fuel, and they can't get back to base, they crash their planes into anchored American ships. It was when their Emperor announced surrender, that they surrendered. They were still willing to fight even after America dropped atomic bombs on them. On a lighter note, didn't you read about the Japanese solider that kept fighting alone in the jungle that didn't know the war had ended until 1979?
I agree with you, the war between Russia and Germany, was the main battle of WW2 other battles were warm up exercises.

leofab:
look deeply.. before the D-day landings, the evacuation happened in France/Poland and not Italy.. (check Dunkirk) after the first blitz. the Italian front was first opened which cause the changed the Italian perceptions about be nazis.. I don’t kneel the amount of propaganda you have swallowed but if you follow the timeline you will see matching pattern on when usa grands started pouring in and when Russia started making progress.. hitler was wise and a good strategist.. he shared Poland with Stalin so he can have a common boundary with Russia.. talking of annihilation Russian executed over 20,000 polish officers and elites Just so he can annex Poland.. and that was exactly what hitler was trying to prevent by trying to take Russia and spread his socialist regime.. his hate for the Jews was little compared to Stalin hate for them.. bottom line is without usa intervention, Europe and lastly American would have Been German colony while Asia would be Japanese colony especially the pacific theatre..

Note: * starling signed the aggressive pact due to fear
*the Russians have fewer tanks with are inferior to the German panzers.. with far lesser range that they had to dug in..
* Russian wasn’t no match for the German and Stalin has to cry to the allies to open a new front so the pressure can be relieved.. without the Normandy landings the red army would never reach Germany…

Frankly, I think you are confused. You are throwing words around but ending up rambling. Please go read up and come back for a coherent discussion.

hermesprogidy:

Frankly, I think you are confused. You are throwing words around but ending up rambling. Please go read up and come back for a coherent discussion.

I had to quip you with multiple info’s cos it seems you have swallowed a lot of propaganda

hermesprogidy:

Bro, they were not. You have no idea how fanatical the Japanese were. Surrender is not in their dictionary. It's against the Samurai code to surrender. They rather die than surrender, that is why the Japanese were extremely cruel to captured soldiers. Why do you think they had suicide weapons? Even as they attacked Pearl Harbor, once their planes ran out of fuel, and they can't get back to base, they crash their planes into anchored American ships. It was when their Emperor announced surrender, that they surrendered. They were still willing to fight even after America dropped atomic bombs on them. On a lighter note, didn't you read about the Japanese solider that kept fighting alone in the jungle that didn't know the war had ended until 1979?
I agree with you, the war between Russia and Germany, was the main battle of WW2 other battles were warm up exercises.

Yea I know abt d samurai code and d kamikaze warplane attacks, and how individual Japanese soldiers were willing to continue d war.
But the truth is that the Japanese generals have seened that they have lost d war already the moment pearl harbor was attacked. That's where the "sleeping giant" nick name was given to America.
History has it that the Japanese where ready to surrender and dropping d atomic bomb wasn't necessary.
Let me leave u with Naval Gen Isoroku Yamamoto's sleeping giant quotation. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".

leofab:
I had to quip you with multiple info’s cos it seems you have swallowed a lot of propaganda

Multiple disjointed info you mean.

asamaigho:

Yea I know abt d samurai code and d kamikaze warplane attacks, and how individual Japanese soldiers were willing to continue d war.
But the truth is that the Japanese generals have seened that they have lost d war already the moment pearl harbor was attacked. That's where the "sleeping giant" nick name was given to America.
History has it that the Japanese where ready to surrender and dropping d atomic bomb wasn't necessary.
Let me leave u with Naval Gen Isoroku Yamamoto's sleeping giant quotation. "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve".

Bro that so called quote was from a WWII film called Tora! Tora! Yamamoto never said that in real life. The same Yamamoto that coordinated the Pearl Harbor attack? please leave Hollywood out of this.

hermesprogidy:

Multiple disjointed info you mean.

they are notes.. you need them all for a better understanding

leofab:
they are notes.. you need them all for a better understanding

Disjointed notes, disjointed timelines. Seems like the writing of someone that starts reading a book from the end and finishes at the start

hermesprogidy:

Disjointed notes, disjointed timelines. Seems like the writing of someone that starts reading a book from the end and finishes at the start

instead of trolling you can at least look up to the facts I dropped for you.. I just schooled you for free. Be grateful