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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:00am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Oshiomhole is still a power force in edo apc and edo north.obj still have influence.I am not interested in the political squabble in apc,it is normal In a parties.they will always be conflict.the summary is that only apc members can question buni chairmanship and apc will still retain power come 2023.whether tinubu is fighting buhari abi amechi is of no interest to me...

Lol. Oshiomole has graduated from a national politician to an upcoming village politician. This dude is very funny. And what is APC in Edo if I may ask?
OBJ still has influence as a kingmaker? Dude is getting funnier.

PDP just questioned Buni's chairmanship in court.

That ApC will retain power is not a given. PDP boasted they will rule for 60yrs. APC did not even exist when the statement was made.

It should. You might just be the greatest loser in all these even though you're largely inconsequential in the internal political games of APC
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by fergie001: 1:00am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:
All points noted and taken but where I disagree is that of a court compelling or not. SC said OBJ should refund Lagos state money to the LGs mentioned in the constitution. He refused. But at least the court asked him to. It's the same thing here. If the court asks Buni to step aside, even if he refuses to, the fact is in the eyes of the courts, he is no longer a chairman of the party. I'm sure you'll agree the implications of that on the issues of the party.
The case will go no where. Buni's signature is the key. In that Caretaker Committee, we have almost 2 or 3 Govs, not just Buni...

I know ABS & Oyetola are there. Why do you think nobody is calling them? What affects Buni also affects these 2 Govs as well.

This is because none of them is National Chair or National Secretary.

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:01am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


That means a party not holding primaries and a governor not being qualified is an infraction and a constitutional matter that can be challenged by any Nigerian right?

Those are pre-election matters that are already ruled on by the courts. Is it so difficult for you to understand the difference between a sitting governor and an aspiring candidate ni undecided
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:02am On Aug 02, 2021
chloride6:


Having a fake ssce isn't in the same vein as holding executive positions.

One is a question of eligibility to the office of Governor, the other is a question if properly executing the office of the governor.

Hope it's clear.


Having a fake ssce to hold a an executive position of a governor should grant the whole state locus.if you can question the execution of duties,then you can question eligibility after all you are ruling a state dont you think so

Anyway,the constitution has granted the powers of disciplining a governor to the house of assembly of a state which represents the people of that state.hope its clear?

Any constitutional matter that touches on political parties or elections always restricts locus.understand?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:05am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Section 177 States qualification for a governor.if he is not qualified,who can take him to court?

Those who he ran against to become governor. The qualification of a governor is not vetted by the citizens. A body is already empowered to vet that on behalf of the citiznes and it is called INEC. Meanwhile after he becomes governor, if he says only members of his party who pay dues can have access to the state university, every citizen of the state can take him to court. Do you understand now?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:06am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Those are pre-election matters that are already ruled on by the courts. Is it so difficult for you to understand the difference between a sitting governor and an aspiring candidate ni undecided

The constitution is silent on who has locus on section 183.but once a matter questions the leadership of any party,only party members have locus.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:06am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


So the people of yobe have locus if their governor has a fake ssce?

Are you aware late Gani took Tinubu to court on Chicago certificate issue?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:08am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


The position of a party chairman is a party affair.can you digest that?
Yes. The position of governor is a governance affair. Can you understand that?
What is debated is not whether APC should have Buni as chairman or not but that Buni can't be governor and at the same time be chairman. Do you get that?

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:10am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Those who he ran against to become governor. The qualification of a governor is not vetted by the citizens. A body is already empowered to vet that on behalf of the citiznes and it is called INEC. Meanwhile after he becomes governor, if he says only members of his party who pay dues can have access to the state university, every citizen of the state can take him to court. Do you understand now?

You are the one misunderstanding the issues.inec does not question or vet candidates...the constitution is silent on who can question qualification.only the house of assembly has locus to discipline a governor for any constitutional infractions.understand?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:11am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Are you aware late Gani took Tinubu to court on Chicago certificate issue?

And what did the court say my boy?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:11am On Aug 02, 2021
fergie001:

The case will go no where. Buni's signature is the key. In that Caretaker Committee, we have almost 2 or 3 Govs, not just Buni...

I know ABS & Oyetola are there. Why do you think nobody is calling them? What affects Buni also affects these 2 Govs as well.

This is because none of them is National Chair or National Secretary.
A governor can be a member of a committee. Nothing wrong with that. Buni's problem though is that he is carrying out the functions of the chief executive of the party. If he were a member of the convention planning committee only while there is a party chairman on seat, no one will question him.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:13am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


The constitution is silent on who has locus on section 183.but once a matter questions the leadership of any party,only party members have locus.

It is 183 that is being debated here not the leadership of the party. Get it straight
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:16am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


You are the one misunderstanding the issues.inec does not question or vet candidates...the constitution is silent on who can question qualification.only the house of assembly has locus to discipline a governor for any constitutional infractions.understand?

Yet the SC ordered OBJ to return the LG allocations to Lagos. Yet governors are being taken to court for demolishing houses.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:16am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


And what did the court say my boy?
The court said you should understand English and apply it correctly apc buttlicker
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:17am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Lol. Oshiomole has graduated from a national politician to an upcoming village politician. This dude is very funny. And what is APC in Edo if I may ask?
OBJ still has influence as a kingmaker? Dude is getting funnier.

PDP just questioned Buni's chairmanship in court.

That ApC will retain power is not a given. PDP boasted they will rule for 60yrs. APC did not even exist when the statement was made.

It should. You might just be the greatest loser in all these even though you're largely inconsequential in the internal political games of APC

Stop talking nonsense.are you not the one that argued with me severally that obj is greater than tinubu internationally? I never said obj is a kingmaker.if oshiomhole doesn't have influence,how come apc won edo north ?

Get this right,pdp never questioned buni's chairmanship.read the case file again well.pdp only questioned buni's signature on aketi's nomination form.stop twisting the narrative
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:18am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

The court said you should understand English and apply it correctly apc buttlicker

Pure rubbish.continue licking pdp
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:19am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


It is 183 that is being debated here not the leadership of the party. Get it straight

It bothers on the chairmanship of a party.stop getting it wrong son.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:20am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Stop talking nonsense.are you not the one that argued with me severally that obj is greater than tinubu internationally? I never said obj is a kingmaker.if oshiomhole doesn't have influence,how come apc won edo north ?

Get this right,pdp never questioned buni's chairmanship.read the case file again well.pdp only questioned buni's signature on aketi's nomination form.stop twisting the narrative

I never knew internationally means kingmaker in your dictionary. You just keep flagellating like a young boy smoking weed for the first time

Oshiomole won Edo north after he left office as APC national chair abi?

I guess Buni signed the nomination as Aketi's grandfather or school headmaster
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:20am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Yet the SC ordered OBJ to return the LG allocations to Lagos. Yet governors are being taken to court for demolishing houses.

Is political and electoral matters same as civil matters? Even fergie is fed up with you.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:21am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Pure rubbish.continue licking pdp

You're the one who has promised to hug transformer if APC lose in 2023. PDP lost since 2015 and i'm still jollificating
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:22am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Is political and electoral matters same as civil matters? Even fergie is fed up with you.
Stop calling fergie. You can't cry to the mods and now you're crying to fergie. Be a man. The functions of the office of the governor is what we are discussing here. It is a political as well as civil matter.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Brushstrokes20: 1:27am On Aug 02, 2021
Awesome!... Useless govt of self serving THIEVES and BLOODTHIRSTY TERRORISTS.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by fergie001: 1:28am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

A governor can be a member of a committee. Nothing wrong with that.

Buni's problem though is that he is carrying out the functions of the chief executive of the party. If he were a member of the convention planning committee only while there is a party chairman on seat, no one will question him.

Section 183 of the 1999 Constitution:

The Governor shall not, during the periods when he holds office, hold any other Executive Office or paid employment in any capacity whatsoever.

Article 17(iv) of the APC Constitution
No officer in any organ of the Party shall hold executive position office in government concurrently.

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:32am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


I never knew internationally means kingmaker in your dictionary. You just keep flagellating like a young boy smoking weed for the first time

Oshiomole won Edo north after he left office as APC national chair abi?

I guess Buni signed the nomination as Aketi's grandfather or school headmaster




[b]There is tension at the national secretariat of the All Progressives Congress (APC) as the Supreme Court justices are set to make their pronouncements on the subsisting petition over the mandate being exercised by the sitting governor in Ondo State, Rotimi Akeredolu.

Checks revealed that the candidate of the main opposition party, the People’s Democratic Party, Eyitayo Jegede had proceeded to the apex court to challenge Governor Akeredolu declaration by the Independent National Electoral Commission as the winner of the October 10, 2020, Ondo State governorship election.

The Court of Appeal sitting in Akure, Ondo State capital had last June dismissed the appeal filed by the PDP Governorship candidate against the pronouncements of the Election Petition Tribunal.

Reading the judgement, Justice Theresa Ngolika Orji-Abadua, said the case filed by Jegede lacked merit.

A source at the party secretariat told Nigerian Tribune that barring any unforeseen development, the apex court may hear the appeal, take adopted written addresses from both parties and proceed to deliver its verdict later in the evening today (Wednesday).

Jegede is challenging the eligibility of Governor Akeredolu (SAN) on the grounds that his nomination letter was signed by his counterpart from Yobe state, Mai Mala Buni who incidentally is the Chairman, APC Caretaker/Extraordinary Convention Planning Committee, CECPC put in place at an emergency National Executive Committee of the party, last year, a sequel to its dissolution of the National Working Committee led by Comrade Adams Oshiomhole.



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If he did not sign,would he have gone to court?

By the way,oshiomhole was removed in June and elections took place in sept.sorry for you lad
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by BeardedMeat(m): 1:33am On Aug 02, 2021
festacman:
Bagudu, Buni, Malami, Amaechi, etc should just accept that the game is abruptly over. Tinubu's camp is back on level ground.
Very true. Don't be surprised they are behind ehitayo, and they all planned to bungle it in order to save Aketi.

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:34am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

Stop calling fergie. You can't cry to the mods and now you're crying to fergie. Be a man. The functions of the office of the governor is what we are discussing here. It is a political as well as civil matter.

Men dont use uncouth and foul words like women
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:35am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


You're the one who has promised to hug transformer if APC lose in 2023. PDP lost since 2015 and i'm still jollificating

Apc will still rubbish your pdp
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Fortune109: 1:47am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


But pdp cant

Let him sign any form for any candidate if PDP will not sure them
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 1:50am On Aug 02, 2021
Fortune109:


Let him sign any form for any candidate if PDP will not sure them

Good.his signature is all he takes.he won't sign again
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Fortune109: 1:58am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Good.his signature is all he takes.he won't sign again

A National chairman has to sign for his party's candidate in an Inec election
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by honda001: 2:54am On Aug 02, 2021
seunmsg:


PDP cannot sue APC over the internal affairs of APC. This is a settled position of law now.
all they needed to do is to bribe two APC party members and a case will be file
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Bluntemperor: 3:28am On Aug 02, 2021
Wickedfact:


Malami is not acting in the interest of the party, he knows what he's doing.

Possibly he wants to run for governorship too.
They claim to know the law for themselves not for Nigeria. So when President was saying'you stay in Lagos to decide zoning' it was a written script!

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