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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Nobody: 3:51am On Aug 02, 2021
fergie001:

Jurisdiction is the lifeblood or existence of any case.

Only APC members can file this case in Court, and no APC member can even do that now because it is already Statute-barred.

The only way PDP can come against the NWC or the National Chairman of another party is through the tribunal only because it is a Constitutional matter.

PDP cannot do anything, unless they sponsor APC members to do so which they even can't rn because of the time.


The former APC Vice Chairman (South), Hillard Eta took the matter to Court and his attorney was Onyechi Ikpeazu SAN (the same attorney Jegede used), the Court struck it out because it has become statute-barred.

Eta has now been expelled from the Party. Buni became Chairman in June 2020 and Eta challenged it in Oct/Nov same year.


Don't you think it can be challenged on whether or not the Chairman had the powers to issue a notice of intention of the party to hold congresses? Especially as it relates to last Saturday's congresses?

Also, do you think if an aggrieved member of the party approaches the court to challenge the legality or otherwise of the congresses, a preliminary objection premised on a subject matter or issues estoppel will succeed?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by obinoral1179(m): 5:43am On Aug 02, 2021
seunmsg:


PDP cannot sue APC over the internal affairs of APC. This is a settled position of law now.
they only need look for an aggrieved member to do that for them or wait till after any elections to ask why should buni continue being a committee chairman despite being a Governor...
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by itsene: 5:43am On Aug 02, 2021
festacman:
Bagudu, Buni, Malami, Amaechi, etc should just accept that the game is abruptly over. Tinubu's camp is back on level ground.

In addition to Judge Senchi and Victor Giadom who was always hanging around court premises to declare himself acting chairman. As if on cue.
Meanwhile judge Senchi has been promoted to appeals court for "good work"!
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Joetttimua1811(m): 5:53am On Aug 02, 2021
Yeye APC
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by nairavsdollars(f): 6:14am On Aug 02, 2021
Most of the judges are not independent, only working for the government in power
itsene:


In addition to Judge Senchi and Victor Giadom who was always hanging around court premises to declare himself acting chairman. As if on cue.
Meanwhile judge Senchi has been promoted to appeals court for "good work"!
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by drlateef: 6:40am On Aug 02, 2021
Frigga13:
APC is a Buhari movement..

2023... ends Apc in Nigeria.. reason why the soldiers ants in the government are desperately looting and destroying the country with reckless abandon.

They just don’t care.

How can a government be this aggressive to its citizens.. no empathy..no good thought.. very mean..

Why?

.... and some humans still shamelessly the push for Tinubu President.




Tinubu is the only former governor in Nigeria who opened the eyes of everyone that states can generate internal revenue to sustain themselves. He made Lagos state to survive when Obasanjo wanted to kill the State by not releasing revenue to it. He built leaders and ensured growth and stability in Lagos. You might say his sin is to align with Buhari but you will be politically naive to say that. Because Tinubu alone could not win presidential election for himself and Jonathan needed to be flushed out first. The only logical thing to do was to present Buhari. Tinubu is a pragmatic and calculative person. He has never held any federal appointment and has no hands in what Buhari is doing now. He has advised Buhari numerous times by going to Aso Rock with Bisi Akande. But Buhari does not listen. Tinubu is just waiting for Buhari’s tenor to finish so that he can amend the rot in the system. No former Governor has the pedigree of Tinubu and Lagos development is based on the blueprint of Tinubu. He produced all the good governors Lagos has been having. What exactly has he done wrong to you?

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by 24SEVEN: 6:43am On Aug 02, 2021
ComeToJesus:
Implosion can only be internal. No need using both words together.

Both words are used for sake of emphasis... It is typically Nigerian.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by fergie001: 6:47am On Aug 02, 2021
litigator:
Don't you think it can be challenged on whether or not the Chairman had the powers to issue a notice of intention of the party to hold congresses? Especially as it relates to last Saturday's congresses?
Yes, it can. I think Keyamo was saying something like that.

However, only a registered APC member can do that.

Also, do you think if an aggrieved member of the party approaches the court to challenge the legality or otherwise of the congresses, a preliminary objection premised on a subject matter or issues estoppel will succeed?
Waiting for the full Copy of last week's judgement will make the issues clearer.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by teepain: 7:03am On Aug 02, 2021
seunmsg:


PDP cannot sue APC over the internal affairs of APC. This is a settled position of law now.

But APC members can sue the party and you and I know that they sure will. As the tenure of PMB winds up, more members of the party will be emboldened to challenge the party as they perceive the ebbing of Mr President's punitive powers through the instrumentality of the State.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Odidigboigbo(m): 7:20am On Aug 02, 2021
seunmsg:


PDP cannot sue APC over the internal affairs of APC. This is a settled position of law now.
You don't know how politics is played, they can sponsored one stubborn greedy APC to do the job. There are a lot of agrieved members that can do the job. E.g Magnus Abe
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 7:25am On Aug 02, 2021
Fortune109:


A National chairman has to sign for his party's candidate in an Inec election

According tp inec rules but only secretary can sign too
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:42am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:





[b]There is tension at the national secretariat of the All Progressives Congress (APC) as the Supreme Court justices are set to make their pronouncements on the subsisting petition over the mandate being exercised by the sitting governor in Ondo State, Rotimi Akeredolu.

Checks revealed that the candidate of the main opposition party, the People’s Democratic Party, Eyitayo Jegede had proceeded to the apex court to challenge Governor Akeredolu declaration by the Independent National Electoral Commission as the winner of the October 10, 2020, Ondo State governorship election.

The Court of Appeal sitting in Akure, Ondo State capital had last June dismissed the appeal filed by the PDP Governorship candidate against the pronouncements of the Election Petition Tribunal.

Reading the judgement, Justice Theresa Ngolika Orji-Abadua, said the case filed by Jegede lacked merit.

A source at the party secretariat told Nigerian Tribune that barring any unforeseen development, the apex court may hear the appeal, take adopted written addresses from both parties and proceed to deliver its verdict later in the evening today (Wednesday).

Jegede is challenging the eligibility of Governor Akeredolu (SAN) on the grounds that his nomination letter was signed by his counterpart from Yobe state, Mai Mala Buni who incidentally is the Chairman, APC Caretaker/Extraordinary Convention Planning Committee, CECPC put in place at an emergency National Executive Committee of the party, last year, a sequel to its dissolution of the National Working Committee led by Comrade Adams Oshiomhole.



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If he did not sign,would he have gone to court?

By the way,oshiomhole was removed in June and elections took place in sept.sorry for you lad

Where did he sign on the form?
Edo North election took place in September? Lol
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:44am On Aug 02, 2021
fergie001:


Section 183 of the 1999 Constitution:

The Governor shall not, during the periods when he holds office, hold any other Executive Office or paid employment in any capacity whatsoever.

Article 17(iv) of the APC Constitution
No officer in any organ of the Party shall hold executive position office in government concurrently.


Both are saying the same thing. Being a member of a committee in a political party is not an executive position. It's the members of the nwc that are the party executives. Buni's problem stems from the fact that he functions as the chairman of the party not that he's a member of a committee
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:46am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Apc will still rubbish your pdp
Ok. While APC itself has become a can of rubbish according to their former legal adviser
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 7:46am On Aug 02, 2021
Fortune109:


A National chairman has to sign for his party's candidate in an Inec election
Don't mind the ignoramus
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by fergie001: 8:37am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Both are saying the same thing. Being a member of a committee in a political party is not an executive position. It's the members of the nwc that are the party executives. Buni's problem stems from the fact that he functions as the chairman of the party not that he's a member of a Committee
Are you saying Oyetola and ABS as Governors are right to retain their positions as members of the APC Caretaker Committee by virtue of Article 17(iv) of their Constitution?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by anigbajumo(m): 8:48am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


You see yourself again? You fail to understand what I explained and turned it to a PDP vs APC matter. For someone who claims to be a Nigerian political expert, you appear so myopic.
Let me remind you that what is happening in APC is not new. Same happened in PDP. It's a question of where the carcass are, there the vultures will be.
So forget about PDP for a moment and watch the political drama unfolding.
It's not about political value. What you call political value changes like weather. Oshiomole was a power by this time last year.
Buhari was once a serial loser.
OBJ was once a kingmaker.
Get the right perspectives on issues instead of buttlicking anything APC

The guy is very stubborn and he is far from being a politicial expert, I tried to explain to him in other thread for almost two pages yet he didn't understand. The mistake PDP made was not suing Buni am sure the judgement could av gone in another direction, justice Agim said this on Wednesday. Just leave them and let APC continue with the Congress and see wat will happen in Anambra, Ekiti and Osun is Buni is the one that will sign their nomination form. The official document of the judgement will be out in coming days, wen they read the judgement they will understand better.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 9:04am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:


Where did he sign on the form?
Edo North election took place in September? Lol

Edo election took place long after oshiomhole removal as chairman.oshiomhole still controls edo north son
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by nameo: 9:06am On Aug 02, 2021
seunmsg:


PDP cannot sue APC over the internal affairs of APC. This is a settled position of law now.


I thought the Supreme and Appeal courts said that the issue is a constitutional one, not just an internal party issue. Plus, you think the losers within APC will not take the matter to court.

Anything that will destroy APC, and then PDP, is very welcomed
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 9:11am On Aug 02, 2021
anigbajumo:


The guy is very stubborn and he is far from being a politicial expert, I tried to explain to him in other thread for almost two pages yet he didn't understand. The mistake PDP made was not suing Buni am sure the judgement could av gone in another direction, justice Agim said this on Wednesday. Just leave them and let APC continue with the Congress and see wat will happen in Anambra, Ekiti and Osun is Buni is the one that will sign their nomination form. The official document of the judgement will be out in coming days, wen they read the judgement they will understand better.

Stop quoting that small boy.so buni signature is the key abi? Is that not what I've been telling you? If buni is no longer apc chairman by the time ekiti and osun elections begin,how will pdp go to court Mr?
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 9:11am On Aug 02, 2021
nameo:



I thought the Supreme and Appeal courts said that the issue is a constitutional one, not just an internal party issue. Plus, you think the losers within APC will not take the matter to court.

Anything that will destroy APC, and then PDP, is very welcomed

These parties cannot be destroyed,they will always be there...only apc members can question his chairmanship
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:24am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Edo election took place long after oshiomhole removal as chairman.oshiomhole still controls edo north son
Stay in one place. There has been no election for Edo North since oshiomole left office as chairman. The guber you're trying to lay claim to was statewide. Let a senatorial or HoR election come around then we can know his popularity.
BTW, even he has recognised obaseki as his master. You're licking a servant's ass. Move closer to obaseki's ass if you want to lick something tangible
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 9:29am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

Stay in one place. There has been no election for Edo North since oshiomole left office as chairman. The guber you're trying to lay claim to was statewide. Let a senatorial or HoR election come around then we can know his popularity.
BTW, even he has recognised obaseki as his master. You're licking a servant's ass. Move closer to obaseki's ass if you want to lick something tangible

Apc lost edo south,lost edo central and won edo north and even won his lga where the deputy is from.stop licking obaseki,he is too black and ugly.up oshiomhole
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:33am On Aug 02, 2021
fergie001:

Are you saying Oyetola and ABS as Governors are right to retain their positions as members of the APC Caretaker Committee by virtue of Article 17(iv) of their Constitution?
Note that caretaker committee does not exist in the APC constitution. So the committee itself is an aberration to the APC. That said, the main function of the committee according to the NEC is to plan a national convention to produce a chairman. You'll agree there's nothing wrong for a governor to be a part of such committee since they are not an executive (working) committee but just a planning and organising committee.
That said, where the position of Buni is different is that he also carries out the functions of the party chair. It is this functions that makes his position clearly illegal. If he had simply limited himself to planning the convention as initially asked if him, he won't be in this cul-de-sac. It's what I've been saying. If PDP or anyone for that matter had gone to court to challenge buni's position, it will be easy for APC to claim he's not the chairman but just the convention committee chair (same argument being pushed forward by malami). The problem arises when he starts to carry out the functions of the party chair. That's when he becomes open to litigation as it concerns article 17 and section 183
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:36am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Apc lost edo south,lost edo central and won edo north and even won his lga where the deputy is from.stop licking obaseki,he is too black and ugly.up oshiomhole
grin grin
Oshiomole is fair and handsome abi.
Up oshiomole? Indeed!! Oshiomole is saying up obaseki. You are saying up oshiomole. Who is the clown here?
He lost his ward.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by anigbajumo(m): 9:59am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Stop quoting that small boy.so buni signature is the key abi? Is that not what I've been telling you? If buni is no longer apc chairman by the time ekiti and osun elections begin,how will pdp go to court Mr?

Calm down, Buni is not legalised to sign the nomination form for the Congress therefore the Congress to elect the new excos in Null and void therefore whoever happened to be the chairman then is illegal. Read wat banire said yesterday. I doubted it if u ever read at all.... Pls am too busy for new if u don't understand this simple statement.
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 10:14am On Aug 02, 2021
anigbajumo:


Calm down, Buni is not legalised to sign the nomination form for the Congress therefore the Congress to elect the new excos in Null and void therefore whoever happened to be the chairman then is illegal. Read wat banire said yesterday. I doubted it if u ever read at all.... Pls am too busy for new if u don't understand this simple statement.
This is exactly what the minority judgement said. It has nothing to do with the internal affairs of APC. Except these guys mean being a governor is an internal affair of the APC
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by anigbajumo(m): 10:26am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

This is exactly what the minority judgement said. It has nothing to do with the internal affairs of APC. Except these guys mean being a governor is an internal affair of the APC


It's a shame that anyone think infringement on the Constitution is just party affair.

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Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 10:40am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

grin grin
Oshiomole is fair and handsome abi.
Up oshiomole? Indeed!! Oshiomole is saying up obaseki. You are saying up oshiomole. Who is the clown here?
He lost his ward.

Oshiomhole lost which ward? When will you outgrow the act of talking carelessly? According to the inec portal,oshiomhole polled 4713 in his ward 11 while pdp got 881.he polled 1280 in his unit,pdp got 0.he damned killed pdp in his unit...
Shuaibu got 3120 in his ward,apc got 1507.he won his unit by 401 to 128.apc won 5 units in his ward while pdp won no unit in Adams ward.up adams
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by garfield1: 10:42am On Aug 02, 2021
Agboriotejoye:

This is exactly what the minority judgement said. It has nothing to do with the internal affairs of APC. Except these guys mean being a governor is an internal affair of the APC

Lets wait till pdp goes to court son
Re: Caretaker Committee: Internal Implosion In APC Seems Inevitable – Banire by Agboriotejoye(m): 10:57am On Aug 02, 2021
garfield1:


Lets wait till pdp goes to court son

PDP has already gone to court.

Are you in a bubble or is English so difficult for you

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