MANDIPUTIN:
*[s]Says new president should be in his sixties[/s]



https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/08/06/breaking-news-ibb-rules-out-atiku-tinubu-from-2023/

henrybangs44:

America is not successful because of democracy. America is successful because of good leaders. There are other successful countries that don't practice democracy.

Is your current president not a Democratic president? What has he done to u with the democracy?

Throwback:
Why can't we have individuals in their 40s?

Is 60 not already part of the tired generation of failures.

kingawothefirst:
IBB is the key destroyer of Nigeria. June 12 will never be forgotten because of this man, booo!!!!!

Iyasaburi:


Disappointnent sometimes are blessing o, imagine if the 2015 election was annulled just like June 12 and Buhari did not come to power. We will today be fighting for Buhari.
Bible count it as joy when you are passing through challenges

kingawothefirst:


Buhari already had a track record as a leader of the country during his military regime.

You are comparing apples to oranges and there is no blessing in the June 12 annulment, the country got worse as a result of it, IBB’s decision allowed the worst tyrant to ever rule Nigeria come into power, please have sense before quoting me, thanks.

Iyasaburi:


The only direction ungratefulness leads is backward.
When you don't see God in your situation, you will make mistakes.
Nigerians failed to see God in 2015, we think we needed change badly and that is what we got.
Mind you, I've got my sense!

MANDIPUTIN:
*Says new president should be in his sixties



https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/08/06/breaking-news-ibb-rules-out-atiku-tinubu-from-2023/

Throwback:
Why can't we have individuals in their 40s?

Is 60 not already part of the tired generation of failures.

Abujason:


Because Lots of the 30s and 40s are either ritualists or Yahoo-Yahoo!

kingawothefirst:


Re-read what I posted and have sense. I did not say America is successful today because of democracy. America is successful because George Washington willingly and peacefully transferred power to John Adams, Americans feared he would be like Napoleon because he was immensely loved and if he had decided to run for another term nobody would’ve batted an eye and America as we know it now would’ve been ruined. George Washington set a precedent for future president’s to follow

henrybangs44:

When u are caught in one angle you run to another. By the summary of what you are saying you know u don't need to argue. No go dey bring American history to a failed statement

kingawothefirst:


Again re-read my initial post. Very slowly this time and try to understand my point. Nothing personal my guy. Have sense.

henrybangs44:

Oga. Abdusalam gave power to the civilians. Now its more than 20years. What have they achieved with it? Simple.

henrybangs44:

America is not successful because of democracy. America is successful because of good leaders. There are other successful countries that don't practice democracy.

Is your current president not a Democratic president? What has he done to u with the democracy?

Sirheny007:
Lmao.
Tinubu can be their president when they actualize Oduduwa republic.


Atiku is failed project.

Not in 2023.

freeman131:
Can these old fools just leave Nigerian politics alone? WTF

MoronicLeaders:



But there are a lot more successful countries that are democratic! It's much easier for a country to develop when it's inclusive aka democratic. Consistently near the top of all credible measures of standard of living, life satisfaction, economic development & even social cohesion are countries in north/northwestern europe. Countries with a social safety net, quality education, healthcare and accountability all enabled by a stable and inclusive democratic process that gives citizens a strong and loud voice.

You're probably thinking of China as a successful country that isn't democratic. While this is true when you compare it to African countries and some in Asia, you can't compare the standard of living of the average Chinese to the average Norwegian, Dane, Finn etc Also, unless you're a muslim (nothing against muslims) doubt you'd want to live in a country like Saudi, where leaders have absolute power, you can't even criticize them, and where science takes a back seat to religion. The stand out country that got developed via autocratic means is Singapore, but that is an anomaly. If you get a dictator or autocratic ruler, the incentive for the ruler is to weaken the institutions of governance in order to control the country in perpetuity.

The chances of getting a 'benevolent dictator' like Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore are so tiny, it's like winning the lottery. Getting a bad dictator is much more likely and the negative impact is so bad (as with Nigeria and so many others) it should never be an aspiration for Nigerians.

JuanDeDios:

Heo

Ok, I'll bite. Babangida released the political prisoners jailed by Buhari because that's what you do when you oust a government. He later jailed his own share and closed down media houses, so I'm not sure what you're on about there. Babangida did not bring stability to our economy - teachers suddenly stopped being able to feed their families under IBB. Remember the naira was bigger than the dollar when he came to power. You're the only guy on earth who thinks SAP was a good thing - it may have been well-intended but it totally failed the man on the street due to our realities, as basic necessities went out of reach.

In any case, IBB is not our worst leader because of his economic failings: he's our worst leader because he destroyed the country's social and moral fabrics and our ability to maintain basic law and order and ensure national security. Under him, anyone with connection to generals suddenly became a millionaire. Young people took note and acted accordingly. That's why 419 started under him. Trouble makers were paid off in cash. Kickback went from 10 to 20-100 %. The government got things done by paying off people instead of following the law. All the leader cared about was self-enrichment and everyone took note. The result is that today nothing works in the country and everyone is out to scam you. Anyone who grew up in this country after 1986 has never lived in a country where people were decent, respectful, and went about their work diligently.

With someone like Jonathan, you had bad governance. With Buhari, you have ungovernance. But with IBB, you had the kind of misgovernance that destroyed the country's foundations and will take 500 years to fix. You think Buhari is the worst because of insecurity? IBB knows something about that - he underfunded the police and made sure the military lacked equipment because he was afraid of a coup.

henrybangs44:


Omoooo u get sense. I agree with 99% of what you are saying.

What I'm trying to say in essence is that Our leaders or our nature is so corrupt that democracy or not we will still find a way to self centred leadership.

Trust me, even if middle east start practicing democracy only few changes will be made to thier current state. Just look at buhari...he's worst than some undemocratic nations in his dealings.

I believe the nature of the people is more important than the system of government.

Rome, England, Denmark, Spain, France, Russia and many countries u called once practiced monarchy. But they still did well...thats why they are here...its not just Democracy that made them this successful... They have been good with leadership through all systems.

But I understand what u are saying

Sirheny007:
Lmao.
Tinubu can be their president when they actualize Oduduwa republic.


Atiku is failed project.

Not in 2023.

KingLennon:

Don't get me wrong. Am not supporting IBB but am telling you that Buhari's government is worse. We are not in the 80's anymore, we are in a modernised era. He ruled in the military regime and was a failure. He came back in 2015, we were expecting him to correct some errors he made before but he hasn't. All the short-comings you highlighted in IBB's regime in 1985 is twice of what we are facing in 2021. In 2021 brother not 1985! Forget it, Buhari is worse. Don't blame our present economy on IBB's failings.

JuanDeDios:

Have a great day.

LZAA:
"While Tinubu, who marked an official 68th birthday in March, would have turned 70 years".

Cc monogamy bamite AfonjaConehead

kingawothefirst:
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That’s a very weak mindset to have. We don’t all have the same nature, are you kidding me. How can a living breathing human being in 2021 have this self defeatist racist attitude towards themselves??

We just need to do a better job of vetting our candidates and ensure we elect better leaders that’s all. Pa Awolowo was a great leader, provided free education for all within his region and free healthcare. How come he didn’t succumb to your “nature” theory? Snap out of that line of thinking dude, even if we’re all terrible by nature, there has to be someone who is different, we need to find our own version of Lee Kuan Yew in Nigeria, if we look thoroughly enough I’m sure we’ll find him/her

kingawothefirst:
IBB is the key destroyer of Nigeria. June 12 will never be forgotten because of this man, booo!!!!!