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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:09am On Aug 15, 2021 |
effort1: Yeah, right! That's why millions of Muslims in Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Osun, Ekiti, Ondo, etc have been killing people around! How is stupidity defined in the dictionary? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:27am On Aug 15, 2021 |
effort1: Your God said in the old testament that anyone who worships other gods are to be destroyed! Was your God tolerant? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:31am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Oga shut up. I shuttle among the southwest States and have Muslim friends in these places. There are no reports of religion killing. You are just looking for lies to cover the Shme and indignity of your religion of murder. Is lying part of what what Quran teaches you? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:33am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: If Christians decide to practice old testament, you would have been beheaded by now. You should thank your star that Jesus came to preach peace. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:34am On Aug 15, 2021 |
effort1: Where was Jesus mentioned as a Christian in the Bible? The one who is ignorant is clear here! How has any Muslim been intolerant to you? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:36am On Aug 15, 2021 |
effort1: Yeah! Just as you are preaching peace now! Jesus came to right the wrong of the old testament! |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:38am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: You said there is division and confusion in Christianity and I also point out the confusion in Islam. If there is no confusion in your Quran, there won't be division among you |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:39am On Aug 15, 2021 |
effort1: Tell your elder bro at home to shut up! Na so Jesus teach you peace? Since there has never been religious killings in those places then there must be something wrong in those places with killings Na you dey lie here. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:44am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Christians are peaceful until you intolerant Muslims show that you are not men of peace, but men if violence, oppression and murder. There are reports of Christians building mosques and even feeding Muslims during your Ramadan fasting. Can you Muslims ever build churches for Christians? No, you are too Intolerant and full of yourselves to do that. You are only good in destroying churvges5, not building churches |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:45am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Give evidence of religion killing in the southwest, you Shameless intolerant liar |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by effort1: 8:50am On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Your question sounds stupid like that of someone suffering from a dearth of knowledge or wisdom. With all your supposed knowledge of the Bible, you still ask stupid question? What a shame! |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Maghan37: 11:53am On Aug 15, 2021 |
advocatejare:Pls I will like u to read about the likes of Fatima, Yussuf Ibn Ayyub(Salahudeen) and the First Two caliphs and also be mindful because there are many false hadiths out there. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 5:10pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
Maghan37:Oh so are you saying that those people you mentioned are better examples and worth being emulated than Muhammad? Also, all the ahadith I gave you are sahih and not fake Lastly, Abu Bakr was the first caliph, what do you want me to learn about him? How he cheated Ali to become the caliph or how he used his position to deny Fatima the daughter of Muhammad what belong to her? What do you want me to learn about Umar? Umar was the one that carried out Muhammad's wish of sending the Jews and Christians from the Arab peninsula despite the facts that the Jews and Christians helped Muhammad and never fought against him Also don't forget that Umar was the one who claimed to have been the one giving Allah insights about what to reveal to Muhammad when Muhammad was alive as Umar mentioned instances where he suggested some things to Muhammad and Muhammad claimed that Allah had revealed the same thing. Notable among them was when Umar followed Sauda to where she used to poo at night in order to force Muhammad to reveal the hijab verse
The other two instances are here:
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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 5:24pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You shouldn't be asking this type of question. Christian means "Chirst-like" to describe the followers of Jesus acting like him. You may not understand it. Let's do it like this: WHERE IN THE QUR'AN IS ALLAH SAID TO BE A MUSLIM? 1 Like |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 7:55pm On Aug 15, 2021 |
advocatejare: You still haven't answered my question yet. Yahweh created Jesus. Where did Yahweh made Jesus a Christian? What's Yahweh religion for his people? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by RightChannel: 2:29am On Aug 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Jesus a Christian, you funny oo |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:45am On Aug 16, 2021 |
advocatejare: I accept that you are not following Jesus but the lying devil. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:00am On Aug 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian: You will never see where God in Both Old and New testaments says We Christians and Jews should wage war against you Muslims, slay you Muslims, etc unlike what is wriiten in Quran where allah says you slaves should wage war against people of the book, that you shouldn't take Jews and Christians as friends, that you should slaughter Jews and Christians, etc Is your own allah tolerant despite the fact that he is Not God as your shahada says.
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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 10:49am On Aug 16, 2021 |
Rashduct4luv:I'm not following Allah the Satan, it is you that is following Allah who is the same as Satan Allah is not only a deceiver but the best of the deceivers, the same title of Satan, the father of lies. Quran 8:30 wa-idh yamkuru bika alladhīna kafarū liyuth'bitūka aw yaqtulūka aw yukh'rijūka wayamkurūna wayamkuru l-lahu wal-lahu khayru l-mākirīna And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers. Makirina is from (مَكْر [makir] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 10:51am On Aug 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Where did Allah make himself a Muslim? 1 Like |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:03am On Aug 17, 2021 |
advocatejare: [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. Qur'an 19:30 Same Allah your Bible translators used extensively in the Arabic Bible. It's simple. You are the devil. Same applies to what you wrote below. If Allah is so despicable to Christians why do your Bible translators use it? Is it to deceive the Arabic speakers? Allah is not only a deceiver but the best of the deceivers, the same title of Satan, the father of lies. |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:07am On Aug 17, 2021 |
advocatejare: Make i break am down for you as clearly you lack the Holy Spirit. A Muslim is one who submits to Allah. So, by definition, Allah is the reference of submission. Muhammad was a Muslim till he died. Was Jesus a Christian? Did Moses Practice Judaism? Contact your devil mind for answers! |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 8:32am On Aug 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Christian means "follower of Christ" , Christ-like , Jesus is Christ, those that follow his teachings are called Christians so Jesus who is the one doing the teaching can't be called Christian because he is Christ himself or can you call yourself follower of yourself? So if Allah can't be a Muslim, then Jesus can't be a Christian! According to the Qur'an, who is a Muslim? 1 Like |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 9:00am On Aug 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You and your Quran are confused together. Your Quran says that Jesus is the Word and Spirit of your god. "... The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. .... (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171) Can someone's Word and Spirit be His servant? You yourself know that it doesn't make sense like many babbles in the Qur'an. Babbles like: Kaf Ha Yan 'Ayn Sad (Quran 19:1) Ta Ha (Quran 20:1) Ta Seen meem (Quran 26:1) Ta Seen (Quran 27:1) That was why you were commanded to ask us whenever you're dazed. فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94) You guys are so predictable, you run to get validation from the Christians anytime we expose your Allah for who he is as an idol, a moon and star idol whose image you put at the top of the minarets of your mosques. Stop using the fact that Arabs Christians also refer to God as Allah to say that Muslims Allah is not a pagan god. The generic name for God is Ilah in Arabic and it's usually preceded with 'Al' which means 'The' hence, Al-Ilah which was later contracted to mean Allah. As for your own Allah, the Arab moon god is called Lah and this is also preceded by Al which means 'The' hence, Al and Lah was combined to give you your own Allah. The Allah Christians,(whether Arabs or Hausa) pray to and worship is the Holy One of Israel, the Father of Christ the Mesaiah, The One not confined to the Kaaba, the One Who doesn't support immorality, the one whom Muhammad was not his Prophet, the one not prayed to in the mosques. So, the name may sound the same, the One Christians worship is different. The Arab Christians never joined in the naked worship of Allah in the Kaaba, they never did pilgrimage to the Kaaba, they never associated with the Allah of the Muslisms. Another thing you should know is that the so called pagans were actually worshipping Allah who was and is, also a pagan god they knew Allah for whom he was and still is, Muhammad didn't tell about a new Allah, Christians and Jews in Mecca that time never joined them in naked worship of Allah the immoral god in the Kaaba, everyone knew the whom they were worshipping. I've cited the example of Abdulmuttalib for you, who every Muslim agree was pagan but being a pagan that he was, he named his son after his Idol, Allah : Abd Allah :Abdullah.. Another evidence is the revelation in the Quran: "And when they commit a Fahisha (evil deed, going round the Kabah in naked state, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse, etc.), they say: "We found our fathers doing it and Allah has commanded us of it." ... - Qur'an 7:28, Muhsin Khan & Muhammad al-Hilali translation. Note that from the above, they mentioned Allah as their god who had been supporting their sexual immoralities and nudity during Tawaf and this continued even until after Muhammad became the Prophet of the same allah and then decided to modify the tradition but Fahisha still take place at the Kaaba, women are being groped abs molested while doing Tawaf ""It is during the tawaf that many women experience groping, handling and grabbing, says Eltahawy, according to the responses she's heard from women. "It's very crowded. At any given moment, there are thousands of men and women [circling Kaaba at one time]."" https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/26/588855132/-mosquemetoo-gives-muslim-women-a-voice-about-sexual-misconduct-at-mecca?t=1589006156833 And even today, Christians who call God Allah don't pray to Allah the idol of the Kaaba, they don't accept the Muhammad as the Messenger of God, they don't associate with the idol Allah, so how can you say you worship the same God as them. Ajegbodo Empiree n wa eni kunra. Continue worshipping your idol while Arab and Hausa Christians worship Al-Ilah the Holy One of Israel. But Muhammad made us know that the pagan Allah was the same Allah his Quraysh tribe worshipped that's why he retained all the practices and only modified some. Allah of Muslims and Islam is the same as Hubal and Baal the moon idol and that's why the symbol of Islam is crescent moon and star. Islam clearly goes against the order of God that they should not set up a stone for worship Lev.26.1 - "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God. Have you seen now, while Yahweh forbids bowing down to stone, Muslims bow down to the Blackstone to kiss it as part of the religious obligation during hajj. 2 Likes
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Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 9:15am On Aug 17, 2021 |
advocatejare:Allah is not equal to Jesus. Allah created him. Jesus worshipped Allah by praying to Him. He even put his face to the ground and pray. So which religion was Jesus practicing? Allah does not roam the earth physically. His knowledge encompassed all things. Matthew 26:29 New International Version Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. Qur'an 19:30 Jesus is a worshipper! Which religion did he practice? Your Bible interpreters differentiated between Jesus and Allah. So who is the liar, you or them? According to the Qur'an, who is a Muslim?I am not a Quranist so don't ask me a question starting with "according to the Qur'an.." "According to the Qur'an and Sunnah"... A Muslim is one who submits to the will of Allah! 1 Like |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 9:51am On Aug 17, 2021 |
advocatejare: Shit and diversions as usual. Na wetin we dey ask you be this? |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:46am On Aug 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:I took my time to teach you as usual |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:59am On Aug 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Jesus is even greater than your Allah and Muhammad combined. According to your Qur'an, Jesus made a clay bird to come alive, Jesus raised the dead and healed the sick none of which Muhammad and Allah couldn't do. Muhammad's wife Aisha committed adultery neither Allah or Muhammad was able to know the truth. Jesus raised his dead friend, Lazarus when he died, Muhammad was helpless when Khadija his beloved wife and his male children died Allah watched Muhammad died in agony from poison and Allah couldn't heal him or wake him up but the same Allah said he saved Jesus from dying from the cross while he couldn't save Muhammad from agony of having his aorta cut from the poison he ate from atenuje. Atenuje lo pa Muhammad 'Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! Pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation!' - Surah 33:56 Who does Allah pray to? Allah prays to Jesus You claim that your Qur'an is complete, so give us the definition of Islam from your books of Allah Please back your definition up with verifiable references 2 Likes |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 8:42am On Aug 18, 2021 |
advocatejare: But as it is, you boast in your arrogance; all such boasting is evil. James 4:16 |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by AntiChristian: 9:38am On Aug 18, 2021 |
advocatejare: [Jesus] said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah . He has given me the Scripture and made me a prophet. Qur'an 19:30 Jesus said My father is greater than I John 14:28 Jesus has a God (Theon) Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God (Theon) and your God (Theon).’” John 20:17 According to your Qur'an, Jesus made a clay bird to come alive, Jesus raised the dead and healed the sick none of which Muhammad and Allah couldn't do.Yeah you are right. But Jesus did it with Allah's leave. Stop deleting verses to prove your dubious Christianity here. Which miracle did John the Baptist do that Jesus praised him? Since you haven't performed a miracle in your life does that mean your are useless? Muhammad's wife Aisha committed adultery neither Allah or Muhammad was able to know the truth.Where is the evidence that Allah does not know this? Another lie as usual. Muhammad does not know until revelations are sent. Jesus too was asked question he does not know. Jesus raised his dead friend, Lazarus when he died, Muhammad was helpless when Khadija his beloved wife and his male children diedDid Jesus raise his father Joseph when he died? People are meant to die! When your loved one dies tell Jesus to raise them. Sometimes you show tendencies of people of Yabaleft side in your comments. Allah watched Muhammad died in agony from poison and Allah couldn't heal him or wake him up but the same Allah said he saved Jesus from dying from the cross while he couldn't save Muhammad from agony of having his aorta cut from the poison he ate from atenuje. Atenuje lo pa MuhammadAnother blow for you! People are meant to die and one thing must kill a man. How did John the Baptist die? How did your Jesus die? Did Yahweh save them? Yabaleft side arguments! 'Verily, Allah and His angels pray (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! Pray for him (salloo) and salute him with a salutation!' - Surah 33:56 So Jesus is a Prophet now? He still remain servant of Allah. Praying for someone is different from praying to someone. Learn grammar! You claim that your Qur'an is complete, so give us the definition of Islam from your books of Allah No question Qur'an is complete. And Allaah says of Ibraaheem (interpretation of the meaning): “And who turns away from the religion of Ibraaheem (Abraham) (i.e. Islamic Monotheism) except him who befools himself? Truly, We chose him in this world and verily, in the Hereafter he will be among the righteous. 131. When his Lord said to him, ‘Submit (i.e. be a Muslim)!’ He said, ‘I have submitted myself (as a Muslim) to the Lord of the ‘Aalameen (mankind, jinn and all that exists).’ 132. And this (submission to Allaah, Islam) was enjoined by Ibraaheem (Abraham) upon his sons and by Ya’qoob (Jacob) (saying), ‘O my sons! Allaah has chosen for you the (true) religion, then die not except in the Faith of Islam (as Muslims — Islamic Monotheism)’” [al-Baqarah 2:130-132] |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 11:13am On Aug 18, 2021 |
AntiChristian:I didn't boast, I only stated the facts |
Re: Merits Of Reconciliation In Islam by advocatejare(m): 12:10pm On Aug 18, 2021 |
AntiChristian:In the same Qur'an Jesus is said to be the word and spirit (Ruh) of Allah "... The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a spirit from Him. .... (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171) Can your word and spirit be your servant? No That's why we don't take everything in the Qur'an seriously because it's full of nonsense and babbles like these:. Kaf Ha Yan 'Ayn Sad (Quran 19:1) Ta Ha (Quran 20:1) Ta Seen meem (Quran 26:1) Ta Seen (Quran 27:1) When you pray for someone, it means you're asking a higher authority than you to answer the prayers you're praying for that person. Since Jesus is greater than Allah that makes Allah to be praying for Muhammad to a higher authority which is Jesus
All the words in the brackets are not in the Arabic Quran but mere opinion of the translators so there is no direct words from the authors of the Qur'an that gives the meaning of Islam 2 Likes |
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