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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by 4Play(m): 9:38am On Aug 29
Doyin2:



You really do not understand the enormity of our present predicament.

Even if all politicians start earning zero salary, we still do not have the revenue !!!!!

Simple mathematics:

If 75,000 doctors in Nigeria should start earning average salary of say N1million per month,that's total of N75billion per month and N900b per year!! Just for Doctors salary alone!!!!

What is the budget for health, private,federal and all states combined??

What if other professionals now demand equal treatment, what will happen to NIGERIA

Nigerians think good governance requires paying public sector wages for doctors or lecturers that compete with Saudi or UK wages.

Next to corruption, public sector wages bleed the country dry insidiously as only a tiny proportion of the population receive it but it takes up a huge chunk of government spending whilst public infrastructure is left unattended unless we get one of those Chinese loans.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:40am On Aug 29
smirn:
Why is it that only the doctors are on strike because they are allegedly being neglected by the government? Are doctors the only employees in the health sector?

'cough' JOHESU 'COUGH'...

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Doyin2(m): 9:41am On Aug 29
Modrov:
As a medic, the fact is , we doctors don't get paid well (One of my brothers who lives abroad when he heard my salary, his first question was...are they ripping you off?. He was shocked to hear that I was even one of the better paid doctors at my level)

But here is why Saudi can afford to pay such high salareis

1.Saudis produce oil...10 million barrels of crude compared to our 1.4 million barrels of crude.daily

2.Saudis have 35 million people, compared to our 200million people.

3. Saudis have a higher income compared to us as a result...

4.Saudi's foreign reserve in 2014 was at 750 billion dollars. Nigeria at that time was managing 39 billion dollars in our reserve.


Wow !

You are such a realist, not even adding sentiments as a medical doctor.
I am so impressed.

The truth might be bitter for others.Senseless ridiculing their country,I pray for them and you, to get better offers somewhere else,if so desired.


If your father is poor and you are being called by your very rich uncle or father's friend,to come stay with him,what do you do?

Whatever your choice,would you because of that ridicule your poor father,even if he is the architect of his own misfortune.?
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:43am On Aug 29
deltateam:


I wonder what will happen when teachers narrate their own tales of woes.
The average salary for teachers in Nigeria is #30 000 in this economy while some earn #15 000 - #25 000.

I tell you.

But the thing is, we need something like a budget of 10 trillion for education before we can talk of decent salaries for teachers.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by whizzler: 9:45am On Aug 29
EHoudini:
Spare us this nonsense already. The country is in crisis and it isn't only doctors that are suffering the pain.

Every sector is affected except the political class.

Students in Nigeria spent next to nothing to be trained as a doctor. In fact, some were absorbed into civil service schemes grade 9 in their state while studying.

They want the world to given to them because they studied medicine? You ask you to? I don tire to dey hear this, walahi

Go and slave there and spare us this horsesh.t. For, they would soon join the league of the super rich. Abi?

Nansense







The discrimination between doctors and others is too much. That is why JUSUN always have issues with them
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by clovislouis(m): 9:46am On Aug 29
chelsea1116:
A coursemate of mine startd working in Access bank, he was given a car and earns like 200k a month..baba don change am 4 boys unto level don change..i ve been tryn to reach him to know how i can open an accnt in Nigeria frm Europe but he dey form Bank Manager..
Na d day oga know i earn tripple of his salary plus benefits from govt..oga come get my time. pls help me brother. clovislouis20@gmail.com. pls reach me

IF AFTER SMALL MONEY ENTER AND YOU ARE STILL D MAN U WERE WEN U RE BROKE, U RE A PRICELESS AND BETA NIGGA.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:47am On Aug 29
ikllbrokehoes:
NIGERIAN government needs to do better, everything isn't about looting and looting, a cousin of mine who was a medical doctor faced the same travails in Nigeria not until he moved to the US before alot of things changed for him


he now drive expensive cars, built a lavishly furnished duplex and other investments, NIGERIAN government needs to wake up and step up and be more responsible, they need to value our doctors because they are live savers, I am afraid if they don't do this, alot of young NIGERIAN doctors will move out en masse.

He does not pay the same debt as his colleagues in the US who schooled there do, which is why he can afford all of that.

Here in Nigeria, we pay less than 500 dollars annually for education.Thus we leave school with not much debt or no debt.

In the US, fees can start at 3000 dollars or even as high as 40000 dollars. And you are schooling for 8-10 years (4 years college, 4 years medical school..which goes up to 6 years if you are doing a combined MD/PhD programme).

I once heard a black American female doctor state that her debt from medical school alone was $150000 dollars.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by clovislouis(m): 9:47am On Aug 29
chelsea1116:
A coursemate of mine startd working in Access bank, he was given a car and earns like 200k a month..baba don change am 4 boys unto level don change..i ve been tryn to reach him to know how i can open an accnt in Nigeria frm Europe but he dey form Bank Manager..
Na d day oga know i earn tripple of his salary plus benefits from govt..oga come get my time.

IF AFTER SMALL MONEY ENTER AND YOU ARE STILL D MAN U WERE WEN U RE BROKE, U RE A PRICELESS AND BETA NIGGA.
pls help me brother this is my email clovislouis20@gmail.com
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Dextre(m): 9:47am On Aug 29
FolabiCash:
These guys shouldn't be tolerated at all ! Imagine the peanuts they paid to be a fully certified doctor and all they cry about is payment ! True , country is in a chaos but for once , we must speak the truth , if the medical education is that easy , why them no go Learn medicine for this same Dubai they're rushing to work ?

Call a spade a spade , they're swindling the govt and I think it's high time govt should stop funding medicine in federal schools.



You have no sense at all. Maybe because it’s only medical doctors that is talking sha, do you know the amount of skilled professionals dey tear race comot naija too? Is staying in Nigeria a must? They don’t want to live under this suffering anymore so let them go. Talm about swindling govt
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Ever8090: 9:47am On Aug 29
jumper524:
Doctors can be the new source of foreign exchange if the govt can look deeper.
Every year in the universities more than enough qualified students for medicine are forced into other departments because the quota for medicine is 150 at max.
You'll see people with hyper impressive grades forced into other departments..
It won't take much for the FG to invest in the medical sector and improve the quota of every universities to 500.
That way we'll have much more exports and also more private hospitals at lesser rates.
Nigeria is yet to have a goverment that can understand this, what we have been getting is a bunch of "agbero" who finds themselves in position to loot
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by EfereboS: 9:48am On Aug 29
whizzler:


They are just over hyping themselves I swear. An engineering student for example spends 5 years in school, during NYSC he is posted anywhere and atimes earns nothing other than his federal allawee but doctors are given specify treatment. Most graduates can't do more than one job that's if they even get jobs. Whereas doctors can do multiple jobs. Doctors should calm down

Do you repeat classes in engineering? I mentioned this elsewhere, in my school you fail, you resit, you resit and fail again = repeat. Repeating in my school means you have to go two years backwards and pay school fees again. Not even nurses, pharmacists and medical laboratory scientists are asked to repeat a class. It’s not even done in those countries where people are running to, so they deserve the right to complain.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by 4Play(m): 9:48am On Aug 29
deltateam:


You still think it is only salary they are complaining about?

Besides who told you they are demanding #1 mil monthly.

Simply make the work environment equipped and provide adequate leave, reduce work load.

You need to read in between the lines.

When have doctors, or indeed any of our public sector unions like ASUU, actually gone on strike where the primary reason was for anything not related to their pay? Sometimes, they tag along other issues in their public demands so they don't look too selfish but strikes are primarily about pay even as the public infrastructure around them is collapsing.

In many respects, Nigeria's leaders reflect the mindset of the Nigerian people in that we are primarily concerned with personal wealth/finance at the expense of the public wellbeing. That's why you don't hear of union strikes to demand infrastructure investments or investigation/resignation of corrupt officials. Everyone is narrowly focused on boosting their bank balance. Strikes are effective in compelling government to change but Nigerian strikes are solely pay related.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Dextre(m): 9:49am On Aug 29
EHoudini:
Spare us this nonsense already. The country is in crisis and it isn't only doctors that are suffering the pain.

Every sector is affected except the political class.

Students in Nigeria spent next to nothing to be trained as a doctor. In fact, some were absorbed into civil service schemes grade 9 in their state while studying.

They want the world to given to them because they studied medicine? You ask you to? I don tire to dey hear this, walahi

Go and slave there and spare us this horsesh.t. For, they would soon join the league of the super rich. Abi?

Nansense





Envy nor go kill you, it’s quite easy, the country is a hot mess, doctors decided to stand up and fight for themselves. You and your others are there taking the heat and complaining why a group is fighting for theirs. Abi make doctors begin fight for una wey remain too

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by EfereboS: 9:50am On Aug 29
Modrov:


He does not pay the same debt as his colleagues in the US who schooled there do, which is why he can afford all of that.

Here in Nigeria, we pay less than 500 dollars annually for education.Thus we leave school with not much debt or no debt.

In the US, fees can start at 3000 dollars or even as high as 40000 dollars. And you are schooling for 8-10 years (4 years college, 4 years medical school..which goes up to 6 years if you are doing a combined MD/PhD programme).

I once heard a black American female doctor state that her debt from medical school alone was $150000 dollars.


Which is why they are highly paid. The money they make during residency alone can cover such costs.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by flexyrule(m): 9:51am On Aug 29
jumper524:
Doctors can be the new source of foreign exchange if the govt can look deeper.
Every year in the universities more than enough qualified students for medicine are forced into other departments because the quota for medicine is 150 at max.
You'll see people with hyper impressive grades forced into other departments..
It won't take much for the FG to invest in the medical sector and improve the quota of every universities to 500.
That way we'll have much more exports and also more private hospitals at lesser rates.
The government ain't smart enough to think this way.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by FolabiCash: 9:51am On Aug 29
Modrov:


He does not pay the same debt as his colleagues in the US who schooled there do, which is why he can afford all of that.

Here in Nigeria, we pay less than 500 dollars annually for education.Thus we leave school with not much debt or no debt.

In the US, fees can start at 3000 dollars or even as high as 40000 dollars. And you are schooling for 8-10 years (4 years college, 4 years medical school..which goes up to 6 years if you are doing a combined MD/PhD programme).

I once heard a black American female doctor state that her debt from medical school alone was $150000 dollars.


Thank you! Every doctor can leave the country all they want , what you won't do is make yourselves victims or make me have some pity when everything is being handed over to you on a platter ever since tertiary , down to nysc. Jokers.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:52am On Aug 29
EfereboS:



Which is why they are highly paid. The money they make during residency alone can cover such costs.

Yeah, a US resident is paid well.

But the fact is a Nigerian IMG (International medical graduate) arriving in the US for residency does not have the burden of college loan debt that his US colleague has...that's why they can afford nice stuff...

(Though it costs a lot of money to pass US licensing exams, and to get the visas...and that includes travelling costs.)
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Dextre(m): 9:53am On Aug 29
whizzler:


They are just over hyping themselves I swear. An engineering student for example spends 5 years in school, during NYSC he is posted anywhere and atimes earns nothing other than his federal allawee but doctors are given specify treatment. Most graduates can't do more than one job that's if they even get jobs. Whereas doctors can do multiple jobs. Doctors should calm down


I’m sure those engineers have mouth and can get their ass up to fight for themselves but then again in a country where they are pretty much useless, they have no bargaining chip, maybe they could have got up and fight.That is what the engineers should actually fight for not going back and forth about who is being dealt the better hand in this shitty country. I even like the smart ones, they are just catapulting to Canada in silence, na doctors get time dey make noise , dey should have just be moving in numbers under the radar
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Brushstrokes20: 9:54am On Aug 29
Wow shocked.!....Buhari is all shades of lies and deceit!

Nig urgently needs a SANE AND SOUND LEADER!
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by 4Play(m): 9:54am On Aug 29
Modrov:


I tell you.

But the thing is, we need something like a budget of 10 trillion for education before we can talk of decent salaries for teachers.

What about soldiers and police officers who are being asked to risk their lives to protect others? Is their pay sufficient? Nurses, prison officers, civil servants in general? Not to mention the millions of youth who don't even have employment. Pensioners who don't get their pensions.

That's before you talk of the abject lack of infrastructure: good roads, lack of pipe-borne water, electricity, etc.

That's why simply focusing on the claim that doctors are paid poorly in Nigeria is annoying. Everyone is underserved by the Nigerian government apart from criminals/terrorists and politicians.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by pacespot(m): 9:55am On Aug 29
Since Saudi Arabia is so rich that can pay foreign doctors high wages, why can't they use the money to build their own medical schools to train their own doctors? Some of these Nigerian doctors used the government grants and subsidized education to get their training but took all that to Saudi Arabia because of higher wages.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:55am On Aug 29
FolabiCash:



Thank you! Every doctor can leave the country all they want , what you won't do is make yourselves victims or make me have some pity when everything is being handed over to you on a platter ever since tertiary , down to nysc. Jokers.

Speaking as a doctor who works here in Naija..it isn't the money that tempts us to move abroad.

There are many times when you have a patient, with an illness that you know you can treat, but the patient does not have the cash to pay for said treatment, even at subsidized rates.

Also, poor funding means we sometimes don't have all we need to treat patients...who then die.

All that takes a toll, so we check out .

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by ariesbull: 9:56am On Aug 29
Tapout:
It's not just Doctors though, Soon Nigeria will start loosing IT fellas in masses too. It's already happening, but soon it will become to much to handle. They will rather pay politicians fat salaries and unnecessary allowances than develop the country and make it conducive for habitation. They will soon start being at the mercy of aggrieved Nigerian Doctors when they travel out for medical attention. And all it will take is just an intentional wrong medication.
software developers amd engineers are leaving also ....

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 9:58am On Aug 29
4Play:


What about soldiers and police officers who are being asked to risk their lives to protect others? Is their pay sufficient? Nurses, prison officers, civil servants in general? Not to mention the millions of youth who don't even have employment. Pensioners who don't get their pensions.

That's before you talk of the abject lack of infrastructure: good roads, lack of pipe-borne water, electricity, etc.

That's why simply focusing on the claim that doctors are paid poorly in Nigeria is annoying. Everyone is underserved by the Nigerian government apart from criminals/terrorists and politicians.

Yes, they should pay them better.

But the thing is, Nigeria, like most African countries, runs an economy where we sell raw materials , whose prices are always never at a level that can sustain us, so we don't have enough money to pay people better.

WHICH is why I yell on this site that the government needs to change the way we run our economy....from selling raw materials to using raw materials. But APC and PDP do not have that on their platform.

Till then, people are always going to go where the money is.

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by ariesbull: 9:59am On Aug 29
pacespot:
Since Saudi Arabia is so rich that can pay foreign doctors high wages, why can't they use the money to build their own medical schools to train their own doctors? Some of these Nigerian doctors used the government grants and subsidized education to get their training but took all that to Saudi Arabia because of higher wages.
Saudis are lazy, their citizens sit back drive Lamborghini Nd enjoy oil money ...they don't have the time to study


They take care of their citizens well

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Ikea81: 9:59am On Aug 29
jumper524:
Doctors can be the new source of foreign exchange if the govt can look deeper.
Every year in the universities more than enough qualified students for medicine are forced into other departments because the quota for medicine is 150 at max.
You'll see people with hyper impressive grades forced into other departments..
It won't take much for the FG to invest in the medical sector and improve the quota of every universities to 500.
That way we'll have much more exports and also more private hospitals at lesser rates.

Ngige wrote this. He is on nairaland
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by KaluwisxPRO: 10:00am On Aug 29
FolabiCash:
These guys shouldn't be tolerated at all ! Imagine the peanuts they paid to be a fully certified doctor and all they cry about is payment ! True , country is in a chaos but for once , we must speak the truth , if the medical education is that easy , why them no go Learn medicine for this same Dubai they're rushing to work ?

Call a spade a spade , they're swindling the govt and I think it's high time govt should stop funding medicine in federal schools.

Did the government give them subsidy for their medical education? Or they paid out of their pockets? If you want to be enslaved to serve your father land, nobody stop you, not all doctors are leaving. The environment is not conducive for some and they can decide what they want with their lives.
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by naturefellow(m): 10:01am On Aug 29
Crossroad1:
Wait o, now now dem Don dey wire our doctors aza?
You leave Nigeria as a government official for medical only to be treated by a Nigeria doctor in a UK hospital.
Photo, no be juju be that?
What Nigeria and bubu's government cannot destroy does not exist.
May it never be well with this government and their supporters..
Anyone of their supporters that goes to the market to buy goat and chicken for grilling will only see dead vultures and worm infested goat to buy so he and his family member than eat it..
He can also share it with his darling daddy. (I no mention name o)
It's that for me. What goes around...

And yes, MannaBBQgrills and shameless lots will avoid this thread like Covid-19. Federal hypocrites!
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by silvoclaira: 10:03am On Aug 29
“Here, I only attend to four to eight patients (a day). Nigerian doctors are valued here; they really love the fact that we are so smart and intelligent. I would have loved to stay back home. The Nigerian Government really needs to do better. Nigeria will continue to lose better doctors if the country does not act fast.”
God bless Nigerians

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by trevorhorace(m): 10:03am On Aug 29
FolabiCash:
These guys shouldn't be tolerated at all ! Imagine the peanuts they paid to be a fully certified doctor and all they cry about is payment ! True , country is in a chaos but for once , we must speak the truth , if the medical education is that easy , why them no go Learn medicine for this same Dubai they're rushing to work ?

Call a spade a spade , they're swindling the govt and I think it's high time govt should stop funding medicine in federal schools.

So you're saying they keep on being owed for 8 months with shitty pay and a system that continues to frustrate their lives to death because they learnt medicine for 7 hard years plus ASUU wahala for 'peanuts'. What is the qualification of the average o level senator and how much does he earn in comparison ?? undecided

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Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by naturefellow(m): 10:06am On Aug 29
Brushstrokes20:
Wow shocked.!....Buhari is all shades of lies and deceit!

Nig urgently needs a SANE AND SOUND LEADER!
MannaBBQgrills, your daddy
Re: Nigerian Doctors: We Shed Tears Of Joy After Receiving First Pay In Saudi Arabia by Nobody: 10:07am On Aug 29
Brushstrokes20:
Wow shocked.!....Buhari is all shades of lies and deceit!

Nig urgently needs a SANE AND SOUND LEADER!

The only way a sane and sound leader would be able to keep Nigerian doctors in Nigeria is by paying them a decent salary

And the funds for that would have to come from raised taxes, and raised income nationally

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