garfield1:


You have refused to touch the politics of settler/indigene in jos north

Fejoku:

Here's an excerpt from another post related to this issue.

We all know how the first Jos riot in the early 21st century started. It was your people who wanted to lord it over the indigenes and they were reminded that they are actually settlers who should know their place. Prior to that time, there was no indigene/settler dichotomy. The records are there. Most of the other claims you wrote as aggression against Muslims that forced them into revenge attacks were actually preventive/defensive fighting themselves. Hardly do the indigenes invade full known muslim territories so how can such fights be termed an aggression? The 2010 Rukuba fight(Eid day fight) is almost the same as the recent Gada-Biu/Rukuba attacks. Both cases were cases of Hausa/fulani muslims leaving their territories to venture deep into Christian territories with the aim to wreak havoc trusting in the biased Nigerian army to save them. In both cases, they came with weapons but had their asses wooped. People who know those areas know very well that no muslim group have any business going into Rukuba area en mass. It's like seeing Christians en mass driving through Gangare or Angwan Rogo. That is pure suicide mission. One similar attack you didn't mention was the one that happened at Eto baba axis during the local election of 2003. The Hausa/fulani muslims moved en mass with arms into a Christian area located far away from any muslim area to wreak havoc after the election. Christians were taken unaware and soldiers never came to stop them like they speedily do come when such scenarios have Muslims suffering heavy loses. The area suffered marginal destruction with scores of Christians killed with churches and houses especially along the major road destroyed. This is where Christians learnt their lesson and vowed never to slack again. It's either you don't know this story or you deliberately skipped it or those who fed you the stories didn't tell you this one. One quick Google search will confirm my story. The point is that most of the first and aggressive attacks were started by your people. Why are Yoruba Muslims not being attacked in Jos?
The same thing you guys started in Jos is exactly what fulanis have attempted on the whole Nigeria. I do state that the Jos crises is a microcosm of the Nigerian problem to a degree of accuracy. You cry that they called you a settler in Plateau with claims that you your grand father's were born there. Some southerners have their grandfathers' born in Jos too. Prior to Tin mining in Jos, were your forefathers found in Jos? It was the mining in the Jos that brought different people to the city where everyone was accepted and accommodated. Hausas, other tribes of the middlebelt and southerners all came to Jos after the end of WW1. None of them should make spurious demands that will threaten the peace of the city. Nnamdi Azikiwe was born in 1904 in Zungeru, Niger state. Should Igbos in Zungeru now claim to be called Zungerawa like your people want to be called Jasawa? Live your life simply and allow others to do theirs in peace if you want peace.
If truly you want peace, try to feel the pain of others then others can also feel yours. Don't invade people's ancestral lands in the middle of the night to slaughter them. Don't invade their farmlands to destroys their sweat without any iota of remorse. They will revenge when the opportunity present itself. No one has monopoly of violence.

garfield1:


That means all other tribes who are non indigenes will do same?

garfield1:
The jos crisis has lingered for too long alongside the southern kaduna killings? How can it be settled once and for all? One of the greatest problem facing the INDIGENES is: DISUNITY.There are over 15 ethnic tribes in plateau state!They hardly come together to agree on a matter.Secondly, they don't invest or engage in high capital business.. they prefer low income business & civil servants.they are not adventurous as the Yorubas, igbos & the hausas.Low& average life is synonymous with the entire north.It's the Southerners that lives low, average & high class lives!.. SOLUTION: The indigenes, should start investing in the city centers of jos north & jos south.. the indigenes don't have up to 20% of individual investment in jos north! They should put aside thier tribal differences & agree on matters affecting them.If they can start with this 2 solutions immediately & sustain it for,5yrs,by 10yrs time, the crisis would be over.




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garfield1:


The root cause is jos north politics

dalongjnr:

How? I'm not understanding!
I can tell you that there's no correlation between politics of Jos north and jos crisis.
1. 2001,2003 and 2006 are religious crisis. Same applicable to wase crises and yelwan shendam. Where churches were burn, Christians killed, with their communities vandalized.
2. Jihad and conquest agenda. After the failure of the jihad movement to conquer the heart of Jos, they now used the Fulani herdsmen by giving them money, guns and logistic support to continue with the jihad and conquest agendas,by blindfolding them with religion and manipulating their ignorance in order to be used as a killing machinery to conquer Plateau state.
Now,the population growth of the Muslim communities is exponential while, the indigenous people are been killed by the jihad movement in order to subdue and conquer the indigenous people and their land.
3.lack of political will to act on various white papers on the Jos crisis.
On four occasions, judicial commission of enquiry was set from 1991-2008.
The Luke Enefo Commission of Inquiry into the Tudun Wada and Kabong crises of 1991, as well as the Luke Enefo Commission of Enquiry into the 1994 Jos crises, the Justice Niki Tobi Commission of Inquiry into the 2001 Jos crises,
The justice Bola Ajibola commission of inquiry on 2008 Jos crises.
See ah, forget it. I have all these white papers but they are yet to be released completely for public consumptions.
I'm a plateau patriot and we will not rest until we fight to get Justice for our people and our land. You guys think that our problems start yesterday but no! It's over 3 decades old.

garfield1:



Wow,your up to date with everything about the jos crisis.what are the recommendations of the various white papers ? What is your personal solution to jos crisis? What is the percentage of hausas and indigenes in jos north and jos south

garfield1:


True but there must be a compromise.maybe,they should divide jos north lga

Naijabad:


Gaddafi suggested that Nigeria should be divided into North and South since North is predominantly moslems and South is predominantly christains.

Fejoku:

Here's an excerpt from another post related to this issue.

We all know how the first Jos riot in the early 21st century started. It was your people who wanted to lord it over the indigenes and they were reminded that they are actually settlers who should know their place. Prior to that time, there was no indigene/settler dichotomy. The records are there. Most of the other claims you wrote as aggression against Muslims that forced them into revenge attacks were actually preventive/defensive fighting themselves. Hardly do the indigenes invade full known muslim territories so how can such fights be termed an aggression? The 2010 Rukuba fight(Eid day fight) is almost the same as the recent Gada-Biu/Rukuba attacks. Both cases were cases of Hausa/fulani muslims leaving their territories to venture deep into Christian territories with the aim to wreak havoc trusting in the biased Nigerian army to save them. In both cases, they came with weapons but had their asses wooped. People who know those areas know very well that no muslim group have any business going into Rukuba area en mass. It's like seeing Christians en mass driving through Gangare or Angwan Rogo. That is pure suicide mission. One similar attack you didn't mention was the one that happened at Eto baba axis during the local election of 2003. The Hausa/fulani muslims moved en mass with arms into a Christian area located far away from any muslim area to wreak havoc after the election. Christians were taken unaware and soldiers never came to stop them like they speedily do come when such scenarios have Muslims suffering heavy loses. The area suffered marginal destruction with scores of Christians killed with churches and houses especially along the major road destroyed. This is where Christians learnt their lesson and vowed never to slack again. It's either you don't know this story or you deliberately skipped it or those who fed you the stories didn't tell you this one. One quick Google search will confirm my story. The point is that most of the first and aggressive attacks were started by your people. Why are Yoruba Muslims not being attacked in Jos?
The same thing you guys started in Jos is exactly what fulanis have attempted on the whole Nigeria. I do state that the Jos crises is a microcosm of the Nigerian problem to a degree of accuracy. You cry that they called you a settler in Plateau with claims that you your grand father's were born there. Some southerners have their grandfathers' born in Jos too. Prior to Tin mining in Jos, were your forefathers found in Jos? It was the mining in the Jos that brought different people to the city where everyone was accepted and accommodated. Hausas, other tribes of the middlebelt and southerners all came to Jos after the end of WW1. None of them should make spurious demands that will threaten the peace of the city. Nnamdi Azikiwe was born in 1904 in Zungeru, Niger state. Should Igbos in Zungeru now claim to be called Zungerawa like your people want to be called Jasawa? Live your life simply and allow others to do theirs in peace if you want peace.
If truly you want peace, try to feel the pain of others then others can also feel yours. Don't invade people's ancestral lands in the middle of the night to slaughter them. Don't invade their farmlands to destroys their sweat without any iota of remorse. They will revenge when the opportunity present itself. No one has monopoly of violence.

dalongjnr:

How? I'm not understanding!
I can tell you that there's no correlation between politics of Jos north and jos crisis.
1. 2001,2003 and 2006 are religious crisis. Same applicable to wase crises and yelwan shendam. Where churches were burn, Christians killed, with their communities vandalized.
2. Jihad and conquest agenda. After the failure of the jihad movement to conquer the heart of Jos, they now used the Fulani herdsmen by giving them money, guns and logistic support to continue with the jihad and conquest agendas,by blindfolding them with religion and manipulating their ignorance in order to be used as a killing machinery to conquer Plateau state.
Now,the population growth of the Muslim communities is exponential while, the indigenous people are been killed by the jihad movement in order to subdue and conquer the indigenous people and their land.
3.lack of political will to act on various white papers on the Jos crisis.
On four occasions, judicial commission of enquiry was set from 1991-2008.
The Luke Enefo Commission of Inquiry into the Tudun Wada and Kabong crises of 1991, as well as the Luke Enefo Commission of Enquiry into the 1994 Jos crises, the Justice Niki Tobi Commission of Inquiry into the 2001 Jos crises,
The justice Bola Ajibola commission of inquiry on 2008 Jos crises.
See ah, forget it. I have all these white papers but they are yet to be released completely for public consumptions.
I'm a plateau patriot and we will not rest until we fight to get Justice for our people and our land. You guys think that our problems start yesterday but no! It's over 3 decades old.

eagleu:


Already done!
Bauchi was first created for the Muslim majority area of Benue Plateau.
It wasn't enough for the blood thirsty muslims.
Then Nasarawa state was created and handed over to the few Fulani families running the show around Keffi, yet no peace.
Even IBB created the so called plateau north senatorial district for the Hausa visitors who now claim to own the land.
Gbom Gwom Jos has been sidelined, silenced, and crippled by the government, because he refused to convert to Islam.

Go watch the 1960s video where the sultan was admonishing newly arriving Hausa Fulanis to the nice and respectful of their Christian hosts, and you will understand how far the cancer has spread.

garfield1:


True but there must be a compromise.maybe,they should divide jos north lga

garfield1:


I want to proffer solutions but a lot of people including you won't want to hear it.we are talking of plateau and there are no idp caps there.if you have followed the history of jos crisis,you will see that weapons are not the problem.the fg is even neutral,the past Governor Jonah hang was very biased in favour of his berom people....
In this last crisis,the indigenes attacked first and they were heavily armed so the question of guns and liberalization of gun laws does not arise.we need a political solution...your solution will prolong the crisis

garfield1:


That is not the solution.let the indigenes and settlers settle amicably

Lollittaa:

stop mincing words. The fulani vagabonds are the culprit.