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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:37am On Sep 03, 2021
poiZon:

The problem isnt subsidy, but corrupt security officials that aide these smugglers.
Most of the officials of these agencies spend much time in a particular zone, they should be shuffled and u will see the impact. Give them close monitoring, anytime dpr records more than what is the normal consumption of fuel in a particular month, their salaries will be deducted.
We need to be serious in this country..
We shouldnt punish more than 190m people because of the crimes of less than 100thousand people.


Even if we shuffle them, the lure of filthy lucre is going to tempt and tempt more and more people.

Lord knows i did not like GEJ. But when it came to subsidy removal he was on the right track.


Not only do we save money, but all them dormant licences would be take up. Because it would now be profitable to refine fuel in Nigeria.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by lexy2014: 9:38am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


No. It is Nigerians who want to get rich quick.

Anyway, that's why we need people like you in goverment. I'll vote for you if you run

How do d Nigerians who want to get rich quick carry product across d border?

D people who are in govt now that u are supporting their policies, did u vote for them?

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2021
palsenator:





It is because of the insincerity of the government and simply because they want to hike the price... The solution is very simple and straight.....

The problem has been there for decades before this goverment.

And the closure of the borders was governments very inept way of solving the problem. Which amounted to throwing the baby with the bathwater as it hurt legit business more
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by sojayy(m): 9:39am On Sep 03, 2021
Kyari too plenty for this regime..... kilodeee !!! Dem just dey milk us both right left n centre.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by poiZon: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2021
Imagine in july dpr said nigeria consumed 150million litre of fuel a day compare to 30million we normally consumed during GEJ era.
That is a whooping 120million litres difference.
Calculate the subsidy involved in these 120million litre then u will know Nigeria is being looted blue, black and peach by buhari and his cabal.
Instead of finding lasting solutions to these perennial smuggling, they r giving excuses and apportioning blames.
Employ more hands if need be to secure the borders, checkmate every illegal routes these guys use. Its simple...

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:40am On Sep 03, 2021
lexy2014:


How do d Nigerians who want to get rich quick carry product across d border?

D people who are in govt now that u are supporting their policies, did u vote for them?

Because Nigerians and their goverment are corrupt and apc is corrupt.

Now go and bother the bmc.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by xcuggsm(m): 9:41am On Sep 03, 2021
solja147:
It'll never stop cos d government is in support of it
And the Nigeria Customs are sleeping on duty while filling their pockets with egunje!

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:42am On Sep 03, 2021
Emu4life:
Fuel Subsidy is the only sure thing the poor masses gain directly from the Government. You think if subsidy is removed the excess funds will be used judiciously?Hell No! it will be embezzled by one Pot bellied criminal. How many times have subsidy been removed with the hope of fixing the refineries but they ended up doing nothing and subsidy keeps coming back over and over again
Abeg, they shouldn't make things unnecessarily tougher for the masses.


The subsidy is pushing us into more and more debt.

Because the money cones from the limited amounts we earn from crude which is falling in price.

And subsidy makes it unprofitable to refine fuel at home. Unless you are as rich as Dangote
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by lexy2014: 9:43am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


Because Nigerians and their goverment are corrupt and apc is corrupt.

Now go and bother the bmc.

Now u no that d govt and APC are corrupt and u have been supporting d policies of a corrupt govt governed by a corrupt APC

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:44am On Sep 03, 2021
HIGHESTPOPORI:
The government should tighten border security,remove subsidy and Nigeria would collapse, things are already tough and inflation everywhere, selling fuel for 300naira a litre would not be possible, after all the money saved from subsidy will still be looted.

So how are Niger , Chad, Cameroon, Benin, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ghana etc who 're all just as poor as we are surviving with petrol prices above 300 naira per liter?


How much more millions of naira are we going to spend subsidising fuel for other African countries? Who give us nothing in return?
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Dmeji4444(m): 9:45am On Sep 03, 2021
Then the govt should remove the subsidy totally and transfer the savings to subsidise electricity
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by plainol(m): 9:46am On Sep 03, 2021
I love the way people have kept mum over the issue of fuel price hike.

Buhari and his goons are dead scared of people's reaction.

You know, Buhari hasn't seen Nigerians anger since he took power except for the little sample of Endsars.

I pray daily that Buhari should increase fuel price.

God help him. I pray he lives to tell the story.

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:47am On Sep 03, 2021
lexy2014:


Now u no that d govt and APC are corrupt and u have been supporting d policies of a corrupt govt governed by a corrupt APC

Yeah . I don't support apc.

Why should I support a corrupt goverment that cannot run the economy well.

So because I support fuel subsidyremoval, I am an apc supporter? Something Ngozi Okonjo Iweala supports?

Get off my mentions.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by poiZon: 9:47am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


Goverment does not support it.

The smuggling is happening because fuel is far more expensive in neighbouring countries than it is in Nigeria

So anyone buying fuel in Naija and selling it in Cameroon, Niger and Benin is going to earn a profit of N130 per liter sold.

The only way you can stop that is by removing subsidy or by closing the border and building a thick 100 foot wall around Nigeria.

And goverment dont like it because they end up subsidising fuel for other african countries. It's a waste
How much is rice in Niger, compare to the price we r buying in Nigeria, how come security officials r doing everything possible to stop smugglers from bringing it into Nigeria.. Or how about poultry products?
Bros there is ni excuse, the issue is the security men r involved in these smuggling.
I cant imagine more than 50million litres of fuel is being smuggled out of nigeria monthly...how?

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 9:49am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


So how are Niger , Chad, Cameroon, Benin, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ghana etc who 're all just as poor as we are surviving with petrol prices above 300 naira per liter?


How much more millions of naira are we going to spend subsidising fuel for other African countries? Who give us nothing in return?
Those countries have stronger currency and stable electricity compared to Nigeria.

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:51am On Sep 03, 2021
HIGHESTPOPORI:
Those countries have stronger currency and stable electricity compared to Nigeria.

grin

They do not. Except for Ghana, they do not at all.

Infact all those countries have poorer power uptake than Nigeria.All of them are at our level or poorer.

Liberia is richer than us? Even Benin? Please no make me laugh
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Emu4life(m): 9:52am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:



The subsidy is pushing us into more and more debt.

Because the money cones from the limited amounts we earn from crude which is falling in price.

And subsidy makes it unprofitable to refine fuel at home. Unless you are as rich as Dangote
But how many times have they removed the Subsidy without doing anything or at least kick-start a process that will show the masses we re heading somewhere?
How are we sure subsequent removals will yield Any fruit??

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:53am On Sep 03, 2021
Emu4life:
But how many times have they removed the Subsidy without doing anything or at least kick-start a process that will show the masses we re heading somewhere?
How are we sure subsequent removals will yield Any fruit??

So long as government controls the price, not the marketers, there is a subsidy

Know this and know peace.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 9:54am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


grin

They do not. Except for Ghana, they do not at all.

Infact all those countries have poorer power uptake than Nigeria.All of them are at our level or poorer.

Liberia is richer than us? Even Benin? Please no make me laugh
Cotonou, Ghana and Liberia have 24hrs electricity.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Brushstrokes20: 9:56am On Sep 03, 2021
# another LORRY LOAD OF TRASH FOR BRAINLESS BUFFOONS undecided

FIX your damn borders!..... ENOUGH OF NONSENSE from the useless govt of self serving THIEVES AND BLOODTHIRSTY TERRORISTS.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by poiZon: 9:56am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


Yeah . I don't support apc.

Why should I support a corrupt goverment that cannot run the economy well.

So because I support fuel subsidyremoval, I am an apc supporter? Something Ngozi Okonjo Iweala supports?

Get off my mentions.
Subsidy removal now will make the little efforts being made (if at all there is any) in our economy to collapse.
Everything revolve around fuel, transporters use it, almost all small and medium scale enterprises use it to power their facilities.
At the moment exchange rate is going exponentially crazy, n fuel is being priced in dollars, we might end up buying fuel at 350naira a litre. Prices of goods n services wil skyrock, minimum wage is still 18k or less in some states, so many people r not even enjoying this minimum wage, so many unemployed youths out there, some firms may even downsize to cut cost... So at end u will see trying to solve a problem, u compound it.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 9:57am On Sep 03, 2021
poiZon:
Imagine in july dpr said nigeria consumed 150million litre of fuel a day compare to 30million we normally consumed during GEJ era.
That is a whooping 120million litres difference.
Calculate the subsidy involved in these 120million litre then u will know Nigeria is being looted blue, black and peach by buhari and his cabal.
Instead of finding lasting solutions to these perennial smuggling, they r giving excuses and apportioning blames.
Employ more hands if need be to secure the borders, checkmate every illegal routes these guys use. Its simple...

Even if you do that, it won't stop the smuggling.

The cheap way is to remove subsidy. It would encourage more investment in refining, which means more jobs, more production and price of fuel falls.

And we end up exporting the thing.

Nigeria's neighbour Niger has o subsidy. As a result they make enough to keep their one refinery working, and export to at least 3 countries
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Tianamen1: 9:58am On Sep 03, 2021
MODROV, I believe you are the same character I told that the issue of fuel price increases in Nigeria is tied to the decreasing value of the naira, so to solve this issue, taxes would have to be raised on cars and houses and that the more progressive these taxes are, the better.

Nigerians are amongst the most flamboyant people on earth, and if as a society, we do not change our ways, the death of this nation is a certainty.

To solve this crisis, the government should raise taxes on the rich, and invest in quality basic education and build new prisons for likely tax evaders. as the naira gains value, the price of petrol would naturally go lower.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by hotseat: 10:00am On Sep 03, 2021
Greed and unbridled corruption are the bane of the Nigerian society.



We are a dangerously selfish people who careless about others provided our nests are feathered.



Yet, we pride ourselves as the world's most religious people.


What an irony!



Once money is involved, we quickly relegate religion to the background.



No wonder the Holy Book says by their fruits we shall know them.



No one truly loves or cares about Nigeria! FACT!


We are wicked to ourselves!
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by poiZon: 10:01am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


Even if you do that, it won't stop the smuggling.

The cheap way is to remove subsidy. It would encourage more investment in refining, which means more jobs, more production and price of fuel falls.

And we end up exporting the thing.

Nigeria's neighbour Niger has o subsidy. As a result they make enough to keep their one refinery working, and export to at least 3 countries
Even if there r 2million refineries in Nigeria, price of fuel will and can never fall below what is obtainable in foreign countries.
Fuel is priced in dollars, in akwaibom there r some streets that have mire than 20 bbqgrill stands, it doesnt make price of bbq chicken to fall.
Know this...

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Holaomoakin(m): 10:07am On Sep 03, 2021
If you like remove subsidy, increase price per litre they will still smuggle and increase price in those neighboring states.
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 10:07am On Sep 03, 2021
HIGHESTPOPORI:
Cotonou, Ghana and Liberia have 24hrs electricity.

Below is a map of access to power in several African countries

Apart from Ghana, who pay twice as much as we do for power, they all havr lower access.

What those countries do is concentrate what little power they have on a few areas. We don't do that.

Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by palsenator(m): 10:08am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


The problem has been there for decades before this goverment.

And the closure of the borders was governments very inept way of solving the problem. Which amounted to throwing the baby with the bathwater as it hurt legit business more




*It has been proposed that no fuel station 50 kilometers away from the borders...

* Only NNPC station is allowed within the range since the population around the border is less dense.

* Border patrol / Custom sabotage should be checked


It will not totally stop it but drastically will reduce it. You need to see the numbers of ⛽ stations along the road to the borders...it will shock you

*
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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by ogododo: 10:09am On Sep 03, 2021
Modrov:


Goverment does not support it.

The smuggling is happening because fuel is far more expensive in neighbouring countries than it is in Nigeria

So anyone buying fuel in Naija and selling it in Cameroon, Niger and Benin is going to earn a profit of N130 per liter sold.

The only way you can stop that is by removing subsidy or by closing the border and building a thick 100 foot wall around Nigeria.

And goverment dont like it because they end up subsidising fuel for other african countries. It's a waste

You be pikin same thing wey Obsanjo told us when fuel dey less than N20, before putting am for N70. How ecomoics work, most of these neighbour no get oil dem depend on Naija fuel, if you sell for N400 for Nigeria, outside go still be like #500-600. You know what we fit do, make gofarment comot in hands, eyes and mouth for oyel mata. You go see how things go turn positive.

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Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 10:10am On Sep 03, 2021
palsenator:





*It has been proposed that no fuel station 50 kilometers away from the borders...

* Only NNPC station is allowed within the range since the population around the border is less dense.

* Border patrol / Custom sabotage should be checked


It will not totally stop it but drastically will reduce it. You need to see the numbers of ⛽ stations along the road to the borders...it will shock you

*

Even then, the temptation and incentive is still there.

I mean someone buys 10 liters of fuel at N1630 and sell it at Niger at 3770.


Capitalism has always been about the money. Make it difficult to earn money, they will do it illicitly
Re: Why Petrol Smuggling Continues - Mele Kyari by Nobody: 10:12am On Sep 03, 2021
ogododo:


You be pikin same thing wey Obsanjo told us when fuel dey less than N20, before putting am for N70. How ecomoics work, most of these neighbour no get oil dem depend on Naija fuel, if you sell for N400 for Nigeria, outside go still be like #500-600. You know what we fit do, make gofarment comot in hands, eyes and mouth for oyel mata. You go see how things go turn positive.

Yes, let the goverment do so. And it starts with deregulation. And marketers not goverment setting the price of fuel.

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