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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 7:35am On Sep 12
achorladey:


Your problem is laziness to probe to your past. You are blind followers of confused people......

Ehn, should they go into the past na the way, the truth and the life to APOSTASY be that.

That their brag and sanctity of marriage dey make me laugh grin Even despite the many rules in their various manuals about this marriage of a thing you will still see how members use it to perpetrate whatever they want to do and get away with it.


No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 8:06am On Sep 12
MightySparrow:
I was watching a YouTube in which the presenter was talking about the subject matter. Is it scriptural for a woman to co - pastor with her husband? The new trend is found all over the Christian world.

The bible doesn't support it. I did not say God, I said the bible. Because we don't see where God forbade it.

But Peter and Paul categorically spoke against female leaders in the church.
Paul also highlights the conditions of selecting church leaders- deacons and bishops. 1 Timothy 3:1-13
No provision was made for females leaders.

However, we have verses that seem also to support female pastors or co-pastors.
1. Deborah was a judge (leader).
2. The story of Aquila and Priscilla.
3. Also there's no longer male or female in Christ.

If truly God is using a female as a leader in a church who then can fight against it?

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by DappaD: 8:43am On Sep 12
MightySparrow:

Have you shown honesty in your posts?

Never mind me. You have nothing to learn from Witnesses but you solicit answers from them every now and then. Well done.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by achorladey: 9:04am On Sep 12
DappaD:


Never mind me. You have nothing to learn from Witnesses but you solicit answers from them every now and then. Well done.

As if you and your likes don't create topics like every other and solicit answers grin

You KNOW a 2 years old member of your religious organization can handle the Bible with efficacy more than 1000 of other religious denominations.

Don't ask me how I know. grin grin grin
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by achorladey: 9:11am On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!

They won't accept the post above whereas in reality many magazines they have printed over the years can be used to support each point made.

The reason you see one of them always saying no group performs better than them. Or other to show the group that does better.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:25am On Sep 12
You've read through his heart even if he keeps denying the fact! Hebrews 4:12 wink

DappaD:


Not just him, anyway. But many other people like him. I often come across people who love how Witnesses do their thing in terms of worship and all.

BUT!

where they seem to get lost is when you choose not to engage in any form of sacred service with them. 2Corinthians 6:14-17
That’s when they turn furious and start saying all manner of distasteful things against you.

I laughed when he said he didn’t have anything to learn from Witnesses. Yet in all the threads he has created on Nairaland, it’s usually Witnesses who do come to his rescue. In fact, for even asking such easy questions like “Why did God kill Jesus instead of Satan” shows how the man is languishing spiritually(Luke 16:24) It seems like the next step forward for him is atheism.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32am On Sep 12
See confusion! cheesy
Please humble yourselves and come to learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you say Bible doesn't support something yet you doubt if God support it, then ask yourself:
Did you understand what the Bible stands for?

Well let me help you out here.

The BIBLE is God's word! 2Timothy 3:16; 2Peter 1:21 smiley




Myer:

The bible doesn't support it. I did not say God, I said the bible. Because we don't see where God forbade it.

But Peter and Paul categorically spoke against female leaders in the church.
Paul also highlights the conditions of selecting church leaders- deacons and bishops. 1 Timothy 3:1-13
No provision was made for females leaders.

However, we have verses that seem also to support female pastors or co-pastors.
1. Deborah was a judge (leader).
2. The story of Aquila and Priscilla.
3. Also there's no longer male or female in Christ.

If truly God is using a female as a leader in a church who then can fight against it?

Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 9:43am On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:
See confusion! cheesy
Please humble yourselves and come to learn from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, if you say Bible doesn't support something yet you doubt if God support it, then ask yourself:
Did you understand what the Bible stands for?

Well let me help you out here.

[highlight]The BIBLE is God's word![highlight] 2Timothy 3:16; 2Peter 1:21 smiley





Was Deborah a leader (judge) in Israel or not?
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by orunto27: 10:34am On Sep 12
All LESSONS are from above and are good for LEARNING.

THE RELATIONSHIP OF JESUS AND MARY MAGDALENE IS A SPIRITUAL LESSON AND IS GOOD FOR LEARNING.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:50am On Sep 12
Myer:

Was Deborah a leader (judge) in Israel or not?

Of course that's equivalent of a queen!
Note that during the time of Kings in Israel God separated the duties of a King who serves as judge in Israel from that of Priests who lead during worship!
So Deborah is a judge the equivalent of a Queen but that doesn't give her the audacity to lead during worship! smiley

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by orunto27: 11:07am On Sep 12
ADAM&EVE ABRAHAM AND SARAH, ISAAC AND REBECCA JOSEPH AND MARY ARE ALL LESSONS IN THE SCRIPTURE. THEY'RE COPASTORS AND LESSONS FOR LEARNING.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 11:33am On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:


Of course that's equivalent of a queen!
Note that during the time of Kings in Israel God separated the duties of a King who serves as judge in Israel from that of Priests who lead during worship!
So Deborah is a judge the equivalent of a Queen but that doesn't give her the audacity to lead during worship! smiley

Audacity you say? That sounds familiar.
You sound like the Pharisees who wondered who qnd what gave Jesus Christ the "audacity" to preach and teach with such authority as he did.

Anyway, my point is simple.
Yes the bible doesn't make provision for women to be pastors or copastors. But then God often goes beyond what is written in the books because he cannot be boxed.
The reason most Jews till date do not believe in Jesus Christ is because he went against some of what was written about the Messiah. They were expecting someone from a royal family according to their interpretation of Isaiah 9:6.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:56pm On Sep 12
Myer:

Audacity you say? That sounds familiar.
You sound like the Pharisees who wondered who qnd what gave Jesus Christ the "audacity" to preach and teach with such authority as he did.

Anyway, my point is simple.
Yes the bible doesn't make provision for women to be pastors or copastors. But then God often goes beyond what is written in the books because he cannot be boxed.
The reason most Jews till date do not believe in Jesus Christ is because he went against some of what was written about the Messiah. They were expecting someone from a royal family according to their interpretation of Isaiah 9:6.

I've told you times without number that this book (Bible) belongs to Jehovah's Witnesses, if you want to know what God requires just come humbly and learn from them. I was a Muslim until i discovered that this book is about them and their heritage so you can't understand the book unless you learn from those whose heritage you're trying to grasp!

When i say "audacity" i mean it's totally unacceptable because angels are around during our worship {1Corinthians 11:10} and when anyone goes against stipulated rules regarding our heritage the angels won't hesitate to strike such a person!

Uzziah was a King in Israel, he made this same mistake, the priests warned him but he ignored them. Guess what happened to him? Well instantly the angel inside the most holy struck Uzziah and he became a leper and that's how he spent the rest of his life! 2Chronicles 26:16-21 compare to 1Corinthians 10:11

So learn today that it's our heritage that's why we know everything about it all other groups claiming Christians are misinformed Churchgoers, they can't understand our book because Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) is not working with them! Daniel 12:10

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 4:13pm On Sep 12
DappaD:


Never mind me. You have nothing to learn from Witnesses but you solicit answers from them every now and then. Well done.

Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believed and maintained my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. No matter how many billions you spend on publications. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you.
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by DappaD: 4:59pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:

Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believe and maintains my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you.
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.


Of course, the ones who don’t understand Christianity put in the same kind of zeal Jesus had when it came to preaching and teaching about God’s Kingdom. Luke 4:43

The ones who don’t understand Christianity are the ones obeying Jesus’ command to love one another to the extent that honest outsiders will confess that they have love amongst themselves. John 13:35

The ones who don’t understand Christianity have proved to be separate from this corrupt system of things and not pledge allegiance to Satan’s governments. John 17:14-16

The ones who don’t understand Christianity are the ones truly obeying Jesus’ command not to use weapons of war against their fellowmen(Matthew 26:52), not even their enemies(Matthew 5:44) but to be peaceable with all sorts of people. Matthew 5:9, 39

Meanwhile you who understands Christianity perfectly cannot answer a simple question related to the reason why God killed Jesus instead of Satan.

So yes that makes perfect sense!


No matter how many billions you spend on publications.

I don’t know why I so much loved this part of your post. So you know the GB are spending billions in producing publications and reaching others with God’s Word while your papa keeps on accumulating billions by garnering tithes and offerings from his clueless members and uses it to maintain his private jet.
I mean, these jokes write themselves! grin
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 5:38pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


JWs hasn't anything to teach me. The get confused and go into charms. If your God is not sufficient, how do you claim to have faith. If your members male and female abscond from marriages, how do you convince me of sanctity of marriage? I see hypocrisy in your claims. Not to talk of doctrines your GB subtly abandoned.
Your problem is laziness to probe to your past. You are blind followers of confused people.

Sparrow, you are DECEIVING yourself grin

If not,your Pastorpreneurs appointment of their wives as business co- partners wouldn't confuse you to elicit responses on a public forum.

We know our past, it is not picture perfect.
In your own Bible ,none of Jehovah's servant is perfect.
Jehovah God abandoned His doctrine of animals sacrifices in your own Bible.

Jehovah abandoned His doctrine of Jews as His only chosen servants.
Bros, what's your problem?


If you claim your Adamic brother practices spiritism, are all servants of Jehovah doing so?

If you claim some "abscond from marriages", is it a crime to divorce (in your own words
"abscond"wink for a scripturally valid reason?

Even at that, were you living with any married JW couple who separated & you knew everything in their respective marriages?

Bros, your PFN Pastorpreneurs recently married an adulterous woman & some of them seduce married women living outside their matrimonial homes with pastorship positions in some of their business franchises.
Some of them are famous for brolosho activities.
2 Timothy 3:5-7.

Bros, go & clean up the pollution in your midst before you can see the specks of JWs.
grin grin
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 5:41pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


Never, I put questions for anyone to contribute. I have always believe and maintains my stand that JWs do not understand Christianity. No matter how many billions you spend on publications[b]. Most people I have had discussions with are not sincere when confronted with questions. The same with MaxInDHouse, he dodges questions or not definite in given answers. I am not so bothered, I have met quite a number of you[/b].
The best answer I have got this far is ' New Light.' How many people have been misled by old light? Keep your knowledge to yourselves.


In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?
grin

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 6:08pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


#1
No one denomination claims to be perfect other than JWs. When cornered, you change the goal post
. Why don't you answer questions directly?

Which denomination brags the most on Nairaland? In your Watchtower, it about self gratification, condemning Christians dead or alive who had laboured and kept the faith. Some died defending their faith. Yours is a gospel of condemnation , making yourselves judges

You are simply deluded. Wake up!

#1
Bros Sparrow, you are LYING.
JWs screenshot evidence disproven your FALSE claim.

#2.
John 3:16,36 , Jesus Christ & John rejected the faith of your 3 Gods devotees & Pastorpreneurs
.

Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 6:35pm On Sep 12
Janosky:


In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?
grin

Are you now in the position of Jesus?

If not are you afraid of truth?
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 7:06pm On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:


I've told you times without number that this book (Bible) belongs to Jehovah's Witnesses, if you want to know what God requires just come humbly and learn from them. I was a Muslim until i discovered that this book is about them and their heritage so you can't understand the book unless you learn from those whose heritage you're trying to grasp!

When i say "audacity" i mean it's totally unacceptable because angels are around during our worship {1Corinthians 11:10} and when anyone goes against stipulated rules regarding our heritage the angels won't hesitate to strike such a person!

Uzziah was a King in Israel, he made this same mistake, the priests warned him but he ignored them. Guess what happened to him? Well instantly the angel inside the most holy struck Uzziah and he became a leper and that's how he spent the rest of his life! 2Chronicles 26:16-21 compare to 1Corinthians 10:11

So learn today that it's our heritage that's why we know everything about it all other groups claiming Christians are misinformed Churchgoers, they can't understand our book because Archangel Michael (Jesus Christ) is not working with them! Daniel 12:10

May you have PEACE! smiley

Who are Jehovah's witnesses?
Is it those who belong to the church denomination named Jehovah's witness? Or those who proclaim Christ through their life?
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22pm On Sep 12
The one and only true Christian group!

Myer:

Who are Jehovah's witnesses?
Is it those who belong to the church denomination named Jehovah's witness? Or those who proclaim Christ through their life?

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Janosky: 7:26pm On Sep 12
MightySparrow:


Are you now in the position of Jesus?

If not are you afraid of truth?
JWs copy that practice of Jesus. grin

Do Pastorpreneurs have the truth?
Do sheeples of Pastorpreneurs have truth?
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 7:28pm On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:
The one and only true Christian group!


You did not answer the question. Is it your denomination or group named Jehovah's Witness?
Or anyone whose life is a witness of Christ?

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31pm On Sep 12
Janosky:

In your own Bible, did Jesus Christ answer every question he was asked?
grin
That is why i always quote fitting scriptures anytime he tries to ask questions as if he doesn't know the right answer!
He is seeing the road clearly but heading into the bush.
Openly his Papa's ministry is been exposed as nonsense and ingredients yet he's trying to equate such false teachings with what God's own Organization teaches.

Everyone already know that JWs stand alone so nobody expects any of their pastorpreneurs to commend our ministry, but what has he got to say about the ongoing war of words all over the internet coming from their leaders who have been disguising as co-workers of the same God for decades? smiley
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MightySparrow: 7:41pm On Sep 12
Janosky:

JWs copy that practice of Jesus. grin

Do Pastorpreneurs have the truth?
Do sheeples of Pastorpreneurs have truth?

Okay o. Continue to cover your own evil deeds and run others down.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44pm On Sep 12
Myer:

You did not answer the question. Is it your denomination or group named Jehovah's Witness?
Or anyone whose life is a witness of Christ?

We are no denomination of any Organization, we stand alone!
Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians. Matthew 13:24-30
But after his return Jesus and his invisible angelic forces began the separation work which lasted for decades until 1931 when the group has started taken the shape befitting pure worship (true Christianity) then JEHOVAH adopted this group as His people and called them by another unique name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't think we are part of them {John 15:19} the separation work has been done {Revelations 18:4} all those outside JW aren't worshiping our own God. True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-23 smiley
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 8:18pm On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:


We are no denomination of any Organization, we stand alone!
Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians. Matthew 13:24-30
But after his return Jesus and his invisible angelic forces began the separation work which lasted for decades until 1931 when the group has started taken the shape befitting pure worship (true Christianity) then JEHOVAH adopted this group as His people and called them by another unique name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't think we are part of them {John 15:19} the separation work has been done {Revelations 18:4} all those outside JW aren't worshiping our own God. True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-23 smiley

Am I right that according to you Jehovah's witnesses are only those who belong to the JW organisation?

So no matter how much Faith one has in God and
Jesus Christ and lives according to Christ as long as the person doesn't belong to your organisation they are not true witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by achorladey: 9:14pm On Sep 12
Myer:


Am I right that according to you Jehovah's witnesses are only those who belong to the JW organisation?

So no matter how much Faith one has in God and
Jesus Christ and lives according to Christ as long as the person doesn't belong to your organisation they are not true witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.

Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death,
contained an article titled: “A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part,

it said:
The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther.

Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented.

*The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell*

Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther

All these names starting from Arius to Luther too are JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. All they need is to come and DENY IT or support it. Just wait for them.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by achorladey: 9:19pm On Sep 12
MaxInDHouse:


We are no denomination of any Organization, we stand alone!
Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians. Matthew 13:24-30
But after his return Jesus and his invisible angelic forces began the separation work which lasted for decades until 1931 when the group has started taken the shape befitting pure worship (true Christianity) then JEHOVAH adopted this group as His people and called them by another unique name: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So don't think we are part of them {John 15:19} the separation work has been done {Revelations 18:4} all those outside JW aren't worshiping our own God. True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally! John 17:20-23 smiley

True worshipers of our own God share the same line of thought globally

Why do the same organization produce apostates if indeed the organization you belong have one line of THOUGHT?

One line of THOUGHT for book perhaps but reality na IMAGINARY grin grin



Before 1914 Jesus allowed his true followers to be enslaved under false religious groups who were all claiming Christians.

Even after 1914 they were and are still slaves and practicing false religious beliefs just like babylon the great shocked who gave birth to them. Go figure grin

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by Myer: 9:19pm On Sep 12
achorladey:


Watchtower of November 1,1917, published a year after Russell’s death,
contained an article titled: “A Tribute to the Seventh Messenger.” In part,

it said:
The great drama of the Gospel Age opened with the apostle Paul as the chief messenger, or angel, to the Church. It closes with Pastor Russell as the seventh and last messenger to the Church militant. For the other five epochs of the Church, the Lord provided messengers in the order named;

St. John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther.

Each in his turn bore the message due to be understood during the epoch he represented.

*The two most prominent messengers, however, are the first and the last: St. Paul and Pastor Russell*

Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe and Luther

All these names starting from Arius to Luther too are JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. All they need is to come and DENY IT or support it. Just wait for them.

You did not answer the question sir.
Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by achorladey: 9:26pm On Sep 12
Myer:


You did not answer the question sir.

That post is to bring to your notice what the Jehovah’s witnesses were teaching in 1917. Since people like Arius down to Luther were among Jehovah’s 7 MESSENGERS during the great gospel age......

Then MaxInDHouse coming to say anyone that does not belong to their DENOMINATION(WTBTS) is not a Jehovah’s witnesses will equate to GRAND FRAUDULENT LIE grin grin grin

The reason I said earlier they should DENY or SUPPORT it.

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Re: Is Female Co - Pastor Scriptural by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:54pm On Sep 12
Myer:

Am I right that according to you Jehovah's witnesses are only those who belong to the JW organisation?

So no matter how much Faith one has in God and Jesus Christ and lives according to Christ as long as the person doesn't belong to your organisation they are not true witnesses of Jehovah and Christ.
If you're not worshiping with Jehovah's Witnesses there is no way you can be a true witness of Jehovah and Jesus Christ!

Jehovah introduced Himself to Abraham and promised to keep the Covenant between Him and Abraham forever. Then God promised the nation of Israel that the best King will come from that race {Isaiah 9:6} then that King will have co-rulers all of them must be Israelites but the nation as a whole proved to be faithless so after chosing the first set of co-rulers from Israel God began selecting the rest from other nations to complete the required number 144,000 Revelations 7:5-8; 14:1

Now Jehovah chose Jesus {Matthew 17:5} and handover the Kingdom to him so that all authority both in heaven and on earth has been given to Jesus {Matthew 28:18} Jesus hand over the authority to his Apostles {Matthew 16:19} ever since then the Apostles became the Governing Body or Branch through which Jesus rules over the earth {John 15:1-8} all these did not manifest because Satan immediately began sowing falsehood in the group Jesus established {Matthew 13:25 compare to 1John 2:18} Jesus promised that a time will come when he will command his angels to separate the false Christians from his true followers {Matthew 13:30} by then the Kingdom will gradually begin taking the shape befitting God's promises. Isaiah 2:2-4

So if anyone is not under that umbrella today i'm sorry such a person is not safe because soon Jesus is coming to destroy all those criticizing his government {Luke 19:27} Today Jehovah and Jesus are both in heaven but the Governing Body is partly in heaven while the remaining ones (remnant) are on planet earth gathering the other sheep.
The sheep are all over the earth today preparing for the renovation of this planet as the Governing Body is feeding them on how to get ready for the renovation work ahead to make the earth beautiful after all enemies of God's Kingdom are gone. Revelations 11:18

This is the sacred secret that's hidden from billions today. All these people criticizing JWs are blinded by Satan who knew all of these {2Corinthians 4:4} so whoever is not with JWs now is as good as DEAD in the hands Jesus and the impending forces! Luke 9:60

So now is the time to choose wisely! James 4:8
PEACE unto you! smiley

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