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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by 27Pushing30: 9:24am On Sep 12, 2021
Having read this word for word and line for line It further reinforces my sentiment that “so-called” educated people are the problem of this country.

What is the difference between FIRS collecting VAT on behalf of states then SENDING THESE FUNDS 80% to state and 20% to State LGA’s? and the states COLLECTING the VAT on their own and Sharing it themselves?

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Ppogbae: 9:24am On Sep 12, 2021
Buhari paid idiot. Traitors will arise, nonetheless we move

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by seunfly: 9:25am On Sep 12, 2021
ok
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by unbitchable(m): 9:28am On Sep 12, 2021
Rivers generates 15billion but received 4 billion while Kano generated 2.8 and received 2.8billion. Explain this!

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by seunayantokun(m): 9:28am On Sep 12, 2021
absoluteSuccess:
It's a way to start, all the answers are not in one place.

With problems comes solutions.

Never a "static moment" of the grand standing "status quo" ever again.

Now, the statues are falling.
You've said my mind. Thank you

Also, the opinion sounds like one from a useful idiot,

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by justking(m): 9:29am On Sep 12, 2021
Drink plenty of water
And then
Check my signature
Good news for you there.
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by wirinet(m): 9:36am On Sep 12, 2021
emorse:
Hmmm
Very valid points. I am sure the VAT issue was a serious oversight on the part of the framers of our constitution. They thought we will depend on oil forever and so did not give attention to taxes.

This VAT issue is one more reason we need to come to a round table and renegotiate the basis of our Federation or is it Republic. ( honestly I am yet to understand the one we are practicing right now)
For one we cannot leave some state in abject poverty while some other states are in abject affluence. That would lead to serious instability in the whole nation. It's like one small part of your body being afflicted, while the whole is healthy. Than tiny afflicted part will eventually distrupt the whole body.
At the same time monkey cannot continue to work while baboons dey chop.

We have to find a middle ground.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by absoluteSuccess: 9:37am On Sep 12, 2021
seunayantokun:

You've said my mind. Thank you

We're witnessing the birth of a new age boss. Every anachronistic policy that has held our people down will be going down little by little from now on.

Those who made it possible are the new statues coming up. Expect great fireworks in the months to come, and the rise of the governor of Ondo state.

He's the equivalent of Banji Akintoye in one indivisible Nigeria. If Nigeria will work, it needs folks like that to call the bluff of the self appointed "the owner"

Meanwhile, you can't help the way people think sometimes, you just need to do what must be done and leave them to their analysis-paralysis.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by LadyExcellency: 9:39am On Sep 12, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
[s] THE SPAT OVER VAT: THE WRANGLING BETWEEN THIEVES AND CONFUSED VICTIMS
No single person from the north has written anything of practical import concerning the VAT battle between Southern states and Northern states.
All we have are discordant exclamations and mundane tirades of what is VAT and its history in Nigeria. What is to be done is entirely missing from the misdirected Northern narrative.

It is clear that after systematically shifting all development and productive factors to the South, the North is at the mercy of the South. While the North has the majority in consumer population who are the final bearer of the burden of VAT, the South has taken over the manufacture and other VATable services like import and export. It is only natural for the South to insist on states to retain VAT money which in reality both the Southern and Northern consumers paid for. The Northern leaders are armed and confused and their reactionary pseudointellectuals have nothing rational for attenuation of the danger threatening to further deflate the Northern economy interest. Northern traders and their goods were burnt and chased out of the South withing reciprocal response from the North. Southern terrorist received trillions as amnesty, but Northern terrorists were denied a farthing. Northern herders are denied pasture in the South in the name of a new fangled policy of ban on open grazing, while Southern drug dealers, abductors of children, gun suppliers, substandard and over prized goods retailers are having a field day in the North. And now they want receive all the VAT revenue of which in reality is paid for by all citizens across the country, besides media and physical aggression in the bid to wrest political power permanently mindless of democratic norms. What shall we say about the frontline VAT issue?

The South has masked the true nature of VAT and claimed its benefit to themselves. They highlight the collection centre, mainly the Southern states, and eclipse the source, the individual consumers all over the country. Under this dicey situation the North has two options and it must be ready to stand up to blackmail and threats by the South for whichever option they choose to go by.
First, the North should either make VAT collectable at the sources of consumers based on state of origin or;
The North should think outside of the box and change the battle field entirely. If the South insists on VAT being shared based on collection centres, the North can take an entirely a different course of action to neutralise the grasping effectiveness of the collection centres. Under the reality of Southern leaders( especially Obasanjo in his tenure) induced collapse of manufacturing industries and lack of ports to charge for import and export, the North should insist on turning their region into a global free trade zone that will enable them to contract trade, import and export, with every nation of the world without restrictions in the name of protecting Nigerian manufacturers and service providers. This will definitely free the North from the central government's imposed economic blockade that left the North with no option beyond buying substandard and counterfeited goods at hyperinflation prices. This will certainly jigger the South as the VAT theft is disturbing the North at present. To this, the North should target heavy taxes and levies over Southern goods and traders to economically rid its markets from the constriction of Southern economic marauding. International traders with genuine and affordable products, to be marketed and sold by Northerners themselves in partnership with the rest of the world, are to be invited. If the South adopts The Prince as their guide book, the North must seek refuge in the Art of War and Forty Eight Laws of power!
However, I am aware these suggestions of courses of action may meet with impediments from within. The North is bereft of leaders with the moral muscle and political will to put through with anything the Southern leaders are not pleased with. Since the death of Sardauna, it has been one retreat after the other and the South has been capitalising on that. I am equally aware that the Northern leaders adopt their give and give attitude towards the South because they have been blackmailed. Like the Southern leaders, they have looted and stashed away billions; but unlike the Southern leaders, the Northern leaders are not in control of their booty. The banks and other financial institutions in which, and through which, leaders of both divides launder their scoop is in the total control of the Southerners. So, the fear of selective targetted exposure and personal loss renders the Northern leaders too fickle and diffident to put up a robust fight and win. Moreover, as weak and ineffectual as the Northern leaders are, they could have been forced to action were the other informed Northern classes, like the intellectuals and business class up to their mettle.
But are the intellectuals dedicated and committed enough to force courage and action down the throats of their compromised Northern leaders? This timid and fawning class has lost all ingredients that makes intellectuals what they are. They are mere reactionaries without consciousness of the collective interest of their people. They lack aim and agenda to die for. They have reduced themselves to waiting for the South to set the agenda and react sentimentally in syrupy and weak voices meant, in reality, to be heard and remain relevant in the eyes of the illiterate majority. Their reaction to this present issue of VAT pay credence to what I said. Their weak reactions contain nothing more than what VAT means, history of VAT and how VAT is shared normally, in addition to empty grammar stamped with academic titles to impress their braying uninformed howling media followers.
With this formidable impediments posed by the blackmailed and effeminate leaders and self serving grovelling quasi intellectuals, the prospect of North holding its own against Southern ruthless cold war in all sectors, is certainly slight and grim. Banking, telecommunication, export, and import, diplomacy, foreign outsourced business, power supply and other sectors, each with trillions of Naira turn ove, have already been taken over by the South. Governance and politics are now the last frontiers for the South to conquer. And we know, as recent and age old histories have confirmed,, after the final take over, which means discrimination and exclusion, explosion ensued: it is either the monopolizers or the dispossessed to launch the final solution which in either case the result will be unpalatable. Man is the victim of both his action and inaction.[/s]

Until the North allow for the revision of the constitution to enable operation of regional government or acceeds to 2014 National Conference, the North is trapped and can only mourn and cry.

I am thinking of what would become of the North when they lose political power.

There is still opportunity for the North to reach out to the South on the ground of equity and fairness before every Trust is broken and confidence drained.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by wirinet(m): 9:40am On Sep 12, 2021
27Pushing30:

Having read this word for word and line for line It further reinforces my sentiment that “so-called” educated people are the problem of this country.

What is the difference between FIRS collecting VAT on behalf of states then SENDING THESE FUNDS 80% to state and 20% to State LGA’s? and the states COLLECTING the VAT on their own and Sharing it themselves?


States collecting VAT on their own would be subject to lots of abuse and manipulations. How will the FG and other states verify the data presented by a state?

You want 10% of a State's VAT going into the pockets of a "Jagaban"?

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by seunayantokun(m): 9:51am On Sep 12, 2021
absoluteSuccess:


We're witnessing the birth of a new age boss. Every anachronistic policy that has held our people down will be going down little by little from now on.

Those who made it possible are the new statues coming up. Expect great fireworks in the months to come, and the rise of the governor of Ondo state.

He's the equivalent of Banji Akintoye in one indivisible Nigeria. If Nigeria will work, it needs folks like that to call the bluff of the self appointed "the owner"

Meanwhile, you can't help the way people think sometimes, you just need to do what must be done and leave them to their analysis-paralysis.
My brother, you have a sound mind.
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by mu2sa2: 9:52am On Sep 12, 2021
Militant30:




Let the states collect it and let it end in the their pockets and not someone who will ban alcohol and other essential products and still want to benefit from the largeese that comes from alcohol.

It's a great injustice to humanity.
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didntcommand you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by oluwaseyi0: 9:54am On Sep 12, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
THE SPAT OVER VAT: THE WRANGLING BETWEEN THIEVES AND CONFUSED VICTIMS
No single person from the north has written anything of practical import concerning the VAT battle between Southern states and Northern states.
All we have are discordant exclamations and mundane tirades of what is VAT and its history in Nigeria. What is to be done is entirely missing from the misdirected Northern narrative.

It is clear that after systematically shifting all development and productive factors to the South, the North is at the mercy of the South. While the North has the majority in consumer population who are the final bearer of the burden of VAT, the South has taken over the manufacture and other VATable services like import and export. It is only natural for the South to insist on states to retain VAT money which in reality both the Southern and Northern consumers paid for. The Northern leaders are armed and confused and their reactionary pseudointellectuals have nothing rational for attenuation of the danger threatening to further deflate the Northern economy interest. Northern traders and their goods were burnt and chased out of the South withing reciprocal response from the North. Southern terrorist received trillions as amnesty, but Northern terrorists were denied a farthing. Northern herders are denied pasture in the South in the name of a new fangled policy of ban on open grazing, while Southern drug dealers, abductors of children, gun suppliers, substandard and over prized goods retailers are having a field day in the North. And now they want receive all the VAT revenue of which in reality is paid for by all citizens across the country, besides media and physical aggression in the bid to wrest political power permanently mindless of democratic norms. What shall we say about the frontline VAT issue?

The South has masked the true nature of VAT and claimed its benefit to themselves. They highlight the collection centre, mainly the Southern states, and eclipse the source, the individual consumers all over the country. Under this dicey situation the North has two options and it must be ready to stand up to blackmail and threats by the South for whichever option they choose to go by.
First, the North should either make VAT collectable at the sources of consumers based on state of origin or;
The North should think outside of the box and change the battle field entirely. If the South insists on VAT being shared based on collection centres, the North can take an entirely a different course of action to neutralise the grasping effectiveness of the collection centres. Under the reality of Southern leaders( especially Obasanjo in his tenure) induced collapse of manufacturing industries and lack of ports to charge for import and export, the North should insist on turning their region into a global free trade zone that will enable them to contract trade, import and export, with every nation of the world without restrictions in the name of protecting Nigerian manufacturers and service providers. This will definitely free the North from the central government's imposed economic blockade that left the North with no option beyond buying substandard and counterfeited goods at hyperinflation prices. This will certainly jigger the South as the VAT theft is disturbing the North at present. To this, the North should target heavy taxes and levies over Southern goods and traders to economically rid its markets from the constriction of Southern economic marauding. International traders with genuine and affordable products, to be marketed and sold by Northerners themselves in partnership with the rest of the world, are to be invited. If the South adopts The Prince as their guide book, the North must seek refuge in the Art of War and Forty Eight Laws of power!
However, I am aware these suggestions of courses of action may meet with impediments from within. The North is bereft of leaders with the moral muscle and political will to put through with anything the Southern leaders are not pleased with. Since the death of Sardauna, it has been one retreat after the other and the South has been capitalising on that. I am equally aware that the Northern leaders adopt their give and give attitude towards the South because they have been blackmailed. Like the Southern leaders, they have looted and stashed away billions; but unlike the Southern leaders, the Northern leaders are not in control of their booty. The banks and other financial institutions in which, and through which, leaders of both divides launder their scoop is in the total control of the Southerners. So, the fear of selective targetted exposure and personal loss renders the Northern leaders too fickle and diffident to put up a robust fight and win. Moreover, as weak and ineffectual as the Northern leaders are, they could have been forced to action were the other informed Northern classes, like the intellectuals and business class up to their mettle.
But are the intellectuals dedicated and committed enough to force courage and action down the throats of their compromised Northern leaders? This timid and fawning class has lost all ingredients that makes intellectuals what they are. They are mere reactionaries without consciousness of the collective interest of their people. They lack aim and agenda to die for. They have reduced themselves to waiting for the South to set the agenda and react sentimentally in syrupy and weak voices meant, in reality, to be heard and remain relevant in the eyes of the illiterate majority. Their reaction to this present issue of VAT pay credence to what I said. Their weak reactions contain nothing more than what VAT means, history of VAT and how VAT is shared normally, in addition to empty grammar stamped with academic titles to impress their braying uninformed howling media followers.
With this formidable impediments posed by the blackmailed and effeminate leaders and self serving grovelling quasi intellectuals, the prospect of North holding its own against Southern ruthless cold war in all sectors, is certainly slight and grim. Banking, telecommunication, export, and import, diplomacy, foreign outsourced business, power supply and other sectors, each with trillions of Naira turn ove, have already been taken over by the South. Governance and politics are now the last frontiers for the South to conquer. And we know, as recent and age old histories have confirmed,, after the final take over, which means discrimination and exclusion, explosion ensued: it is either the monopolizers or the dispossessed to launch the final solution which in either case the result will be unpalatable. Man is the victim of both his action and inaction.

This sounds like tears of a self-destructive North

I started laughing when you said southern terrorist are compensated while North terrorist ain't, southern 'terrorist' fight for their land and people, they fight against oil spillage, operation of their tribe and other ills perpetrated by northerns while northern terrorist allegiance is to their despicable religion and selfish interest shekau kill northerners like there is no tomorrow

The north loves backwardness they refuse to train their people rather they give them useless almajiri education

The North rather than trying to catch up with the south is more interested in dragging the south to its mediocre level through quota system, the north can't Excel where merit is the only option

I completely lost faith in the North when my company was denied federal government tech project because we didn't have any northerner as software engineer , just imagine


We have to add our northern gateman to list of tech engineers before the project is approved, this shows the northerners in government don't care about quality of engineers rather only where they come from

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Nobody: 9:55am On Sep 12, 2021
A lot of us are ignorant of how VAT operates in Nigeria. VAT is repetitive kind of tax borne all factors of production though claimable but Nigerian factor with all manipulation will not allow this to work. VAT collection by states will enhance IGR as the level of compliance will increase depending on the apparatus set in motion for it

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by seunayantokun(m): 9:56am On Sep 12, 2021
wirinet:


States collecting VAT on their own would be subject to lots of abuse and manipulations. How will the FG and other states verify the data presented by a state?

You want 10% of a State's VAT going into the pockets of a "Jagaban"?

This is not the next step. When the time comes, and very soon, jagaban and his tax & allied matters business will be uprooted. All of us must be involved. Government (by implication, destinies) must not be left in the hands of rogues.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by izubext007: 9:57am On Sep 12, 2021
But it will stop bandits being enriched.
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by absoluteSuccess: 9:59am On Sep 12, 2021
seunayantokun:

My brother, you have a sound mind.

LOL. Thanks, omoluabi.
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Ibkhaleel001: 10:01am On Sep 12, 2021
Bonesbreaker:
the North is useless to this country having nothing to offer why destroy goods worth millions of naira im da name of religion abeg God erase the North for us the are troublesome
As for you cynics that have no value to add in the dilemma except vituperation, and abuses, we know that is the substance they are made up of. No qualms whatsoever! you don’t expect fragrance from feces.

The North is far bigger in land mass & population than the South.
It has the highest number of states & local governments.
The North has some of the most powerful governors, senators, federal appointees, politicians both serving & retired in Nigeria.
The North also has the richest men & biggest captains of industry in Nigeria.
It has the highest number of military Generals both serving & retired.
The North equally has its fair share of reknown & accomplished academics in Nigeria & abroad in foreign universities.
It has reknown religious scholars & fiery clerics as well as its fair share of unrepentant religious fundamentalists, radicals, hoodlums, criminals & terrorists.
Inspite of all these, watch that whatever positions are zoned to them come 2023, they will choose, present & support their candidate seamlessly with less or no friction, rancour, dirty fight in public or the pages of newspapers & without assassinating each other. They understand politics & leadership. It's no coincidence therefore, that they have what they have. Islam is what regulates them and make them peaceful and never care to address the dirty lies, slander and insults from southerners online.
But you see this presidency of Nigeria Southerners are threatening everybody that they must have come 2023;
this 2023 presidency useless Southern governors & politicians are galivanting up & down insisting they must have -- governors & politicians whose only idea of governance is to issue press statements every month on Fulani herdsmen, cattle grazing & 2023 presidency to distract their gullible state citizens from the resources & allocations of their states they have stolen with nothing to show for it;
you will see how these Southern governors & greedy power drunk Southern politicians will kill & destroy each other just to pick & present one presidential candidate.
Watch how they will burn down the South with insecurity on the eve of 2023 as all these militias, unknown gunmen, Amotekun, Ebube Agu, ESN, OPC, Cult gangs, the various states police & vigilantes in the South will get new sponsors in these Southern governors & politicians as well as new sophisticated weapons from them as they jostle to eliminate each other & weaken the political base of their opponents to be able to pick the presidential ticket for themselves.
The sad shame however is that after destroying themselves, The Southern homeland, wasting the resources of Southern states & the lives of Southern misguided youths just to pick a presidential ticket, they will still turn back & blame the North for the destruction their unbridled greed for power for selfish ends brought on the South.
You see this Southern presidential agitations...
Well, enough said already!
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by wirinet(m): 10:01am On Sep 12, 2021
mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.
What is your business with what God command me to drink or not drink? If your God commands you not to drink alcohol but to drink codeine, that's your business and not mine. You have no right to tell me what to drink or not drink. It's my health and not your health.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Tiiitoo: 10:02am On Sep 12, 2021
mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

Hahahaha...I find this comment quite hilarious, that's not the point though, the point is true fiscal federalism. If the North had acceded to earlier calls to produce a workable country, I think these problems will be sorted bits by bits.

Enuf of the grandstanding and let's produce a workable union.
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Suremikky(m): 10:04am On Sep 12, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
THE SPAT OVER VAT: THE WRANGLING BETWEEN THIEVES AND CONFUSED VICTIMS
No single person from the north has written anything of practical import concerning the VAT battle between Southern states and Northern states.
All we have are discordant exclamations and mundane tirades of what is VAT and its history in Nigeria. What is to be done is entirely missing from the misdirected Northern narrative.

It is clear that after systematically shifting all development and productive factors to the South, the North is at the mercy of the South. While the North has the majority in consumer population who are the final bearer of the burden of VAT, the South has taken over the manufacture and other VATable services like import and export. It is only natural for the South to insist on states to retain VAT money which in reality both the Southern and Northern consumers paid for. The Northern leaders are armed and confused and their reactionary pseudointellectuals have nothing rational for attenuation of the danger threatening to further deflate the Northern economy interest. Northern traders and their goods were burnt and chased out of the South withing reciprocal response from the North. Southern terrorist received trillions as amnesty, but Northern terrorists were denied a farthing. Northern herders are denied pasture in the South in the name of a new fangled policy of ban on open grazing, while Southern drug dealers, abductors of children, gun suppliers, substandard and over prized goods retailers are having a field day in the North. And now they want receive all the VAT revenue of which in reality is paid for by all citizens across the country, besides media and physical aggression in the bid to wrest political power permanently mindless of democratic norms. What shall we say about the frontline VAT issue?

The South has masked the true nature of VAT and claimed its benefit to themselves. They highlight the collection centre, mainly the Southern states, and eclipse the source, the individual consumers all over the country. Under this dicey situation the North has two options and it must be ready to stand up to blackmail and threats by the South for whichever option they choose to go by.
First, the North should either make VAT collectable at the sources of consumers based on state of origin or;
The North should think outside of the box and change the battle field entirely. If the South insists on VAT being shared based on collection centres, the North can take an entirely a different course of action to neutralise the grasping effectiveness of the collection centres. Under the reality of Southern leaders( especially Obasanjo in his tenure) induced collapse of manufacturing industries and lack of ports to charge for import and export, the North should insist on turning their region into a global free trade zone that will enable them to contract trade, import and export, with every nation of the world without restrictions in the name of protecting Nigerian manufacturers and service providers. This will definitely free the North from the central government's imposed economic blockade that left the North with no option beyond buying substandard and counterfeited goods at hyperinflation prices. This will certainly jigger the South as the VAT theft is disturbing the North at present. To this, the North should target heavy taxes and levies over Southern goods and traders to economically rid its markets from the constriction of Southern economic marauding. International traders with genuine and affordable products, to be marketed and sold by Northerners themselves in partnership with the rest of the world, are to be invited. If the South adopts The Prince as their guide book, the North must seek refuge in the Art of War and Forty Eight Laws of power!
However, I am aware these suggestions of courses of action may meet with impediments from within. The North is bereft of leaders with the moral muscle and political will to put through with anything the Southern leaders are not pleased with. Since the death of Sardauna, it has been one retreat after the other and the South has been capitalising on that. I am equally aware that the Northern leaders adopt their give and give attitude towards the South because they have been blackmailed. Like the Southern leaders, they have looted and stashed away billions; but unlike the Southern leaders, the Northern leaders are not in control of their booty. The banks and other financial institutions in which, and through which, leaders of both divides launder their scoop is in the total control of the Southerners. So, the fear of selective targetted exposure and personal loss renders the Northern leaders too fickle and diffident to put up a robust fight and win. Moreover, as weak and ineffectual as the Northern leaders are, they could have been forced to action were the other informed Northern classes, like the intellectuals and business class up to their mettle.
But are the intellectuals dedicated and committed enough to force courage and action down the throats of their compromised Northern leaders? This timid and fawning class has lost all ingredients that makes intellectuals what they are. They are mere reactionaries without consciousness of the collective interest of their people. They lack aim and agenda to die for. They have reduced themselves to waiting for the South to set the agenda and react sentimentally in syrupy and weak voices meant, in reality, to be heard and remain relevant in the eyes of the illiterate majority. Their reaction to this present issue of VAT pay credence to what I said. Their weak reactions contain nothing more than what VAT means, history of VAT and how VAT is shared normally, in addition to empty grammar stamped with academic titles to impress their braying uninformed howling media followers.
With this formidable impediments posed by the blackmailed and effeminate leaders and self serving grovelling quasi intellectuals, the prospect of North holding its own against Southern ruthless cold war in all sectors, is certainly slight and grim. Banking, telecommunication, export, and import, diplomacy, foreign outsourced business, power supply and other sectors, each with trillions of Naira turn ove, have already been taken over by the South. Governance and politics are now the last frontiers for the South to conquer. And we know, as recent and age old histories have confirmed,, after the final take over, which means discrimination and exclusion, explosion ensued: it is either the monopolizers or the dispossessed to launch the final solution which in either case the result will be unpalatable. Man is the victim of both his action and inaction.

Instead of all dis long story why not just suggest the country be divided into North and South,,or is there something am not understanding?

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by SATELLITENET: 10:06am On Sep 12, 2021
Sanwolu and Gbaja storm Mo Abudu birthday party



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYoQn6u4svc

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by wirinet(m): 10:06am On Sep 12, 2021
Tiiitoo:


Hahahaha...I find this comment quite hilarious, that's not the point though, the point is true fiscal federalism. If the North had acceded to earlier calls to produce a workable country, I think these problems will be sorted bits by bits.

Enuf of the grandstanding and let's produce a workable union.
Don't mind the religious fundamentalist. He wants to come to Sapele and tell me not to drink Sapele water because his God in Kano will be angry with him. Meanwhile I need Sapele water to appease my God.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Suremikky(m): 10:11am On Sep 12, 2021
mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

Ok, God commanded you to rebuke and destroy alcohol but joyfully collect the proceeds that comes from the same alcohol?

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Nobody: 10:14am On Sep 12, 2021
It will make us a step closer to practicing true federalism, true federalism will end most of the agitations, bring out the best in states, and unify us against our terrorists enemies.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Born2Breed(f): 10:16am On Sep 12, 2021
The sharing formula is fraudulent and had always been. It's meant to favour a section of the country.

How can it be 20% by contribution,then 50% n 30% by equality and population?

It would have been 50% by contribution,35% by equality and 15% by population.

Imagine Lagos state after contributing 65% then gets 20%? And a state that contributes less than 5% gets more than its total contribution based on silly equality n population.

This wayo too much

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by oluwaseyi0: 10:18am On Sep 12, 2021
mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

Why are you people obsessed with alcohol VAT, isn't alcohol vat Haram?

And besides isn't alcohol meant to be individual decisions why should you stop Nigerian who want to drink from doing so, why are you destroying innocent people business, did anyone force any northern to drink, why can't you leave those who choose to drink? Why is your intolerance level too high that you can't leave your neighbor alone

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by eldoradoxx: 10:32am On Sep 12, 2021
Ibkhaleel001:
THE SPAT OVER VAT: THE WRANGLING BETWEEN THIEVES AND CONFUSED VICTIMS
No single person from the north has written anything of practical import concerning the VAT battle between Southern states and Northern states.
All we have are discordant exclamations and mundane tirades of what is VAT and its history in Nigeria. What is to be done is entirely missing from the misdirected Northern narrative.

It is clear that after systematically shifting all development and productive factors to the South, the North is at the mercy of the South. While the North has the majority in consumer population who are the final bearer of the burden of VAT, the South has taken over the manufacture and other VATable services like import and export. It is only natural for the South to insist on states to retain VAT money which in reality both the Southern and Northern consumers paid for. The Northern leaders are armed and confused and their reactionary pseudointellectuals have nothing rational for attenuation of the danger threatening to further deflate the Northern economy interest. Northern traders and their goods were burnt and chased out of the South withing reciprocal response from the North. Southern terrorist received trillions as amnesty, but Northern terrorists were denied a farthing. Northern herders are denied pasture in the South in the name of a new fangled policy of ban on open grazing, while Southern drug dealers, abductors of children, gun suppliers, substandard and over prized goods retailers are having a field day in the North. And now they want receive all the VAT revenue of which in reality is paid for by all citizens across the country, besides media and physical aggression in the bid to wrest political power permanently mindless of democratic norms. What shall we say about the frontline VAT issue?

The South has masked the true nature of VAT and claimed its benefit to themselves. They highlight the collection centre, mainly the Southern states, and eclipse the source, the individual consumers all over the country. Under this dicey situation the North has two options and it must be ready to stand up to blackmail and threats by the South for whichever option they choose to go by.
First, the North should either make VAT collectable at the sources of consumers based on state of origin or;
The North should think outside of the box and change the battle field entirely. If the South insists on VAT being shared based on collection centres, the North can take an entirely a different course of action to neutralise the grasping effectiveness of the collection centres. Under the reality of Southern leaders( especially Obasanjo in his tenure) induced collapse of manufacturing industries and lack of ports to charge for import and export, the North should insist on turning their region into a global free trade zone that will enable them to contract trade, import and export, with every nation of the world without restrictions in the name of protecting Nigerian manufacturers and service providers. This will definitely free the North from the central government's imposed economic blockade that left the North with no option beyond buying substandard and counterfeited goods at hyperinflation prices. This will certainly jigger the South as the VAT theft is disturbing the North at present. To this, the North should target heavy taxes and levies over Southern goods and traders to economically rid its markets from the constriction of Southern economic marauding. International traders with genuine and affordable products, to be marketed and sold by Northerners themselves in partnership with the rest of the world, are to be invited. If the South adopts The Prince as their guide book, the North must seek refuge in the Art of War and Forty Eight Laws of power!
However, I am aware these suggestions of courses of action may meet with impediments from within. The North is bereft of leaders with the moral muscle and political will to put through with anything the Southern leaders are not pleased with. Since the death of Sardauna, it has been one retreat after the other and the South has been capitalising on that. I am equally aware that the Northern leaders adopt their give and give attitude towards the South because they have been blackmailed. Like the Southern leaders, they have looted and stashed away billions; but unlike the Southern leaders, the Northern leaders are not in control of their booty. The banks and other financial institutions in which, and through which, leaders of both divides launder their scoop is in the total control of the Southerners. So, the fear of selective targetted exposure and personal loss renders the Northern leaders too fickle and diffident to put up a robust fight and win. Moreover, as weak and ineffectual as the Northern leaders are, they could have been forced to action were the other informed Northern classes, like the intellectuals and business class up to their mettle.
But are the intellectuals dedicated and committed enough to force courage and action down the throats of their compromised Northern leaders? This timid and fawning class has lost all ingredients that makes intellectuals what they are. They are mere reactionaries without consciousness of the collective interest of their people. They lack aim and agenda to die for. They have reduced themselves to waiting for the South to set the agenda and react sentimentally in syrupy and weak voices meant, in reality, to be heard and remain relevant in the eyes of the illiterate majority. Their reaction to this present issue of VAT pay credence to what I said. Their weak reactions contain nothing more than what VAT means, history of VAT and how VAT is shared normally, in addition to empty grammar stamped with academic titles to impress their braying uninformed howling media followers.
With this formidable impediments posed by the blackmailed and effeminate leaders and self serving grovelling quasi intellectuals, the prospect of North holding its own against Southern ruthless cold war in all sectors, is certainly slight and grim. Banking, telecommunication, export, and import, diplomacy, foreign outsourced business, power supply and other sectors, each with trillions of Naira turn ove, have already been taken over by the South. Governance and politics are now the last frontiers for the South to conquer. And we know, as recent and age old histories have confirmed,, after the final take over, which means discrimination and exclusion, explosion ensued: it is either the monopolizers or the dispossessed to launch the final solution which in either case the result will be unpalatable. Man is the victim of both his action and inaction.
Summary of this whole cacophonous outburst is this, South has hijacked the economy and waging economic war against the North even when the most nepotistic Northerner called Muhammadu Buhari holds sway as President, even as at today in 61 years of independence of Nigeria, North has produced Tafawa Belwa, Gowon, Murtala, Shagari, Buhari, IBB, Abacha, Yar Adua, who ruled collectively for over Forty four years as against Southern Obasanjo, let's add Shenekon and Jonathan's total of 16 years. How is the South a problem? We are smarter, we are more educated, we are more liberal, we are more travelled, we are more open to newer things, we explore more, we are freer and we thrive commercially. It is the North that controls the governance of this country at all times, look at the public service of the federation. So if with all these advantages the North is refusing to catch up with the South and wants to always depend on handou from depleted federal revenue rather than look in wards such as VAT revenue, then who do you blame for Southern stances on true federalism.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Olatara(f): 10:34am On Sep 12, 2021
mrvitalis:
To solve this issue is simple , VAT should be paid by the consumers to the retailers not the producers

Why are we acting like it's rocket science ?

Coca cola know how much coke is sold in Lagos ...u calculate the VAT and pay Lagos

Pepsi know amount of their products sold in zamfara ... calculate it and give to zamfara

I don't know why people want to make us believe this is hard

A simple app can do this calculation from sales m distribution figures
Is it that simple?
Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by OKOATA(m): 10:40am On Sep 12, 2021
mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didntcommand you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.
Who created the wheat and all ingredients used in making the alcohol? Is it Satan or God? Next time use your head before spewing trash.

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Re: States VAT Collection Laws Won't Solve Injustice Problem - Bankole Akintojude by Olatara(f): 10:40am On Sep 12, 2021
wirinet:

Very valid points. I am sure the VAT issue was a serious oversight on the part of the framers of our constitution. They thought we will depend on oil forever and so did not give attention to taxes.

This VAT issue is one more reason we need to come to a round table and renegotiate the basis of our Federation or is it Republic. ( honestly I am yet to understand the one we are practicing right now)
For one we cannot leave some state in abject poverty while some other states are in abject affluence. That would lead to serious instability in the whole nation. It's like one small part of your body being afflicted, while the whole is healthy. Than tiny afflicted part will eventually distrupt the whole body.
At the same time monkey cannot continue to work while baboons dey chop.

We have to find a middle ground.
Both. The Federal Republic of Nigeria. This country is a joke. grin

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