Claff123:
Messi vs Jorginho

Claff123:
If balon d'or is based on individual performance, I think Messi deserves it, but if it's based on team performance and trophies, I think jorginho deserves it,
Note that am supporting both of them

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paulolee:

why bringing this here? we are talking about ballon d or n not a player dt wont even be in top5 of the nominees..
make una tell cr7 to double e hustle bcoz Leo is already on his 7th n planning to win the 8th next year...

Kingcalls:
Both of them don't deserve it... Lewandowski is the only one that deserves it.... individually, he was the best last season and is leading bundesliga

Kingcalls:


Messis failure to win it will cap the disappointment and final premium tears thats already leading in ur system ... midget want to use Bolivia Ecuador , clements foot and eibar to win balon dor ..
Brazil he failed, Colombia he failed, psg he failed , juventus he failed , real madrid he failed 2ice , atletico he failed 2ice.... suarez left him and joined atletico and won it , failed in la liga and failed in champions league ...u guys are jokers

Kingcalls:


Messis failure to win it will cap the disappointment and final premium tears thats already leading in ur system ... midget want to use Bolivia Ecuador , clements foot and eibar to win balon dor ..
Brazil he failed, Colombia he failed, psg he failed , juventus he failed , real madrid he failed 2ice , atletico he failed 2ice.... suarez left him and joined atletico and won it , failed in la liga and failed in champions league ...u guys are jokers

paulolee:

loolzzz....i don laugh tire....first it was kante, next na Jorginho n now na lewa abi?? the injury lewa sustained for a month dt made mbappe disgraced n dumped bayern out had already written him off
also he had a poor performance in the euros n he isnt even considered atall bcoz he didnt make the nominees for dt uefa best award..
Leo winning the copa had already sealed dt 7th award n all haters can do is just to watch..
ur penaldo no even get hope after his disgrace himself laste season with juve, na small porto with 37 year old pepe naim cage am n he didnt score in any fixture, lost possesion 17 times n failed to complete any dribble against dm n shame no catch u n na lewa u de fight for..

paulolee:

loolzzz....i don laugh tire....first it was kante, next na Jorginho n now na lewa abi?? the injury lewa sustained for a month dt made mbappe disgraced n dumped bayern out had already written him off
also [b]he had a poor performance in the euros n he isnt even [/b]considered atall bcoz he didnt make the nominees for dt uefa best award..
Leo winning the copa had already sealed dt 7th award n all haters can do is just to watch..
ur penaldo no even get hope after his disgrace himself laste season with juve, na small porto with 37 year old pepe naim cage am n he didnt score in any fixture, lost possesion 17 times n failed to complete any dribble against dm n shame no catch u n na lewa u de fight for..

Kingcalls:


U are such a hypocrite...u messi minions are unbelievable ...are u serious... who was disgraced ?? Do u mean Lewandowski or messi...oh my, u guys need help... Lewandowski lost in the quarters to psg and missed the first leg and thats y bayern lost...they were knocked out on aggregate... then ur midget that played both legs and was disgraced 5.2 is the one that performed better.... ...u minions are unbelievable.... u say he dint do well in euros despite scoring 3 goals out of the 4 Poland scored... u are a confirmed red nosed clown ... all of a sudden copa is now important ... only did well with mediocre teams Bolivia and Ecuador, then ghosted against Colombia in the semis and final against Brazil...di Maria to the rescue again...

Talking about uefa best award, did messi make the nomination?? I hv never seen such are kolombian in my life... glaring ,korokoro for eyes and u will call it something else ...u are a confirmed joke and u seriously need therapy...Ronaldo don finally kolo u ooo

Claff123:

I think Ronaldo will win next year

paulolee:

finished reading ur epistle n didn't see u defending cr7 bashing in it.. abi ut cr7 play league games, UCL n euros last season? forget lewa n talk about ur goat na...abi you no see him name to defend am as usual??
d votes revealed dt messi came 4th in d last uefa award dt Jorginho won....abeg were ur cr7 end up?? a massive 10 n shame no de catch u..
dt ballon d or own be say na 20th and above e go endup bcoz he no even deserve top 20 going by how he dumped Juve out of UCL with how e assisted Porto to score dt winning free kick n how he dumped them in 4th on d table.

ThierryJay:
Kingcalls, na Messi matter go kill u las las buhahahaha , jumping on every Messi thread to moan like a dog in perpetual heat. Isnt this the same thing you accuse Paulolee of doing to CR, yet hypocritical you can't do without Messi .

Shame suppose catch you leave this thread. The conversation is for real Ballon D'or contenders and not over-hyped primadonnas. Pls wait for, or create a thread for your fave's category .

ThierryJay:
Kingcalls, na Messi matter go kill u las las buhahahaha , jumping on every Messi thread to moan like a dog in perpetual heat. Isnt this the same thing you accuse Paulolee or Ojeemah of doing to CR, and yet hypocritical you can't do without Messi .

Shame suppose catch you leave this thread. The conversation is for real Ballon D'or contenders and not over-hyped primadonnas. Pls wait for, or create a thread for your fave's category .

Kingcalls:


[s]Cr7 fans are not as bitter biased and blind as u guys we are not hypocrites...we speak the truth ..... Ronaldo don't deserve to win it , we always knew that... even Ronaldo himself knows that , last year he voted for Lewandowski while ur pretentious midget voted for neymar instead , when it was glaring that Lewandowski was miles ahead of the rest ... if Messi deserves it, of course we will say it...but he can't keep on stealing people's awards ...sneijder, Ronaldo, VVd and wanna steal Lewandowskis... such a leprechaun...it will always pain u minions cos u guys only wish messi had achieved what Ronaldo has...

Messi ran to 6th league to go bully brest, foot and troyes ... very rubbish league that uefa only gave them 2 slots for CL , same as Ukraine and Holland while Portugal even got 3 spots , bundesliga that has 18 teams even got 4 .... I should bbtge one ashamed of urself ...well the shame has turned to bitterness , thats y u are all around every Ronaldo thread ... he will keep on shaming una

Now 4th place is now an achievement for u minions ...always carrying irrelevant positions...if its not he has appeared in world cup final , it is he broke peles record ... showcasing irrelevance[/s]

OJEEMAH:
You said CR7 fans are not bias right?.......Why don't you start by telling us about how he robbed Ribery & Neuer in broad day light or they curse you with hypocrisy?

SNEIJDER: How can Someone who wasn't even the best player in Seria A nor the UCL win Balon dor??

RONALDO: When & How??

VVD: Don't have answer for you cos stats speak for itself.

Stop displaying your ignorance here.........France has 3 UCL slots. Shakhter Donesk knocked Monaco out in the Play Off

OJEEMAH:
I doubt if any sensible nairalander still take the millipede serious?

Kingcalls:


Hypocrites... u just said how can someone that dint win best player in serie a or champions league possibly win balon dor despite winning the treble and taking the dutch to the world cup final...good

So now tell me y u should say messi should win the balon dor despite not winning la liga player of the season or champions league player of the season... his own is even worse cos he dint even win the league or CL ...u see y I call u guys Hypocrites

Now let's go the Ribery, that yr Ronaldo won it, good , who carried second?? Was it Ribery?? It was ur midget that cane second so that trash talk is flawed

Now u mentioned Neuer, if u are referring to his world cup victory as a criteria, then they should take the golden ball away from Messi and hand it to Neuer cos Neuer won world cup , Ronaldo won the champions league scoring a ground breaking 17 CL goals , even Neuer collect from am 2 times for semis ...

U for answer VVD own now...Hypocrites, its now performance, but modric against Ronaldo was not performance ....ndi ala

Imagine Shackter knocking Monaco out, what a weak farmers league

Kingcalls:


Infact different moniker insult the 3 of u daily saying, others should stop replying u minions , thats its obvious the hating and hypocrisy is sooooo glaring ....tu guys keep on crying, its not easy being shamed by the Emperor with grace

OJEEMAH:
I am very much aware of the fact that what you wrote is applicable to you from your days as Beverlyjean.............hiding under a different moniker didn't help cos a leopard can't change its spot.

on this platform, you are known for 2 major things,

Insult & your inborne hatred for MESSI

Kingcalls:


[s]Whats this one saying ...seems like that think wey u de take don de mk u see double[/s]

OJEEMAH:
Stop raising points you cant defend logically..... defend 2010 and stop mixing different scenarios up.

Balon D'or is an individual award. if SNEIJDER performance was unmatched by any player, how come he was beaten by his own teammate MILITO to Seria A & UEFA Player of the Year while MESSI was La liga Best Player, European Golden Winner and also the Top Scorer in Champions League that year.

You claim SNEIJDER deserved 2010 for winning treble, tell us why RIBERY was not awarded Balon D'or in 2013 for doing same and named UEFA Player of the Year unlike SNEIJDER and was also nominated for Balon D'or unlike in 2010 that Sneijder didn't even make top 3. Shey you can see how flawed your argument is.

Yes, I mentioned Neuer since you think its by winning major trophies instead of their individual contributions and achievements. Kindly relate this case to 2010 and tell me why Neuer was not awarded since he won Bundes Liga, DFB Pokal & the World Cup. Hypocrisy is remembering RONALDO won the Champions league by Scoring 17 goals and also forgetting MESSI won La liga, Copa Del Rey, European Golden Boot and UCL Top Scorer in 2010.

There's no point talking about VVD cos you brain is wired to think whoever won UCL with his team deserves the award when you should look at individual performance and achievements. If not for LEWANDOSKI, am very sure you would have joined those saying JORGINHO deserves Balon D'or for being part of the team that won Euros & UCL.......Was he outstanding at any point? You and I know the answer is NO.

Shakhter Donesk have been a consistent team in UCL so do not belittle them. They flogged Real Madrid home & away last season

Kingcalls:


All u just said means balon dor is trash and people are already seeing it as crap .. u say 2010 was all about individual performance but it gets to 2013 and 2018 , all of a suddenits no more about individual performance cos its Ronaldo thats competing for it.... Ronaldo scored 70 goals in 2013 , he doesn't deserve it cos he dint win CL or la liga ,ok.... 2012 messi scored 91goals , he deserves it despite not winning CL or la liga... hypocrisy 1

.. Next thing ud say even if Messi dint win it in 2010 , iniesta still came second and not Sneijder.... but u failed to also see the fact that even if Ronaldo dint win 2013 , Messi still came second ahead of ribery , hypocrisy 2...

2018 , Ronaldo was the best individual player but modric won it, y?? He took Croatia to final despite not winning champions league best player or la liga best player ...ok oooo....hypocrisy 3


2019 , VVd wins CL , best player in Premiership, took Holland to nations league final , uefa best player ...miraculously messi wins it , his minions say he was the best individually and its not by trophies...hypocrisy 4

2021 bayern wins bundesliga, bundesliga best player ,European golden boot, breaks mullers record, scores 3 goals in the euros ... messi fails to win la liga best player, fails to win la liga , fails to win CL, not in champions league team of the season , knocked out in the round of 16( 5.2 ) .. finishes 3 in la liga ... his minions now say he deserves it cos he won copa , now they hv shifted goal post again that its the trophy he won , its no longer individual... hypocrisy 5

If copa was so important, then sanchez suppose don win balon dor for winning it back to back

Thats y I call u minions hypocritical deluded clowns ....

OJEEMAH:
There was never a time myself or anybody i know ever said 2013 wasn't based on individual brilliance. The reason we have con-stantly contested that is simple.......As long as you believe Sneijder was robbed in 2010 cos he won treble with Inter despite the fact that, he couldn't match Messi's overall performance then we will continue to dispute how a trophiless Ronaldo beat a treble winning Ribery to 2013 Balon D'or..........Hypocrisy is when you hate to see your own logic used against you.

You are always unstable with your arguments. Based on individual performance Ronaldo & Messi were both ahead of Ribery but your argument is always centered on trophies instead of overall Individual performance which often comes before team's achievements. Hypocrisy is accepting individual brilliance won Ronaldo 2013 Balon D'or while accusing Messi of robbing VVD, Sneijder $ Ronaldo even though he was miles ahead of them individually.

Stop the lies please............ Modric's individual brilliance won him UEFA Player of the Year & Golden Ball winner in UCL and World Cup.

2019...................................La liga, League best Player, European Golden Boot & UEFA Top scorer with a total of 53 goals.

2021.................................. In the midst of all you mentioned, Messi still won Copa Del Rey, Copa America, La liga Golden Boot, Copa America Top Scorer & Best Player of the Tournament.

Its not about winning Copa America.........Was Sanchez's performance with Arsenal & Chile Balon D'or worthy?? Your guess is as good as mine!

Consider this my last reply to you cos i can't continue doing this back and forth everyday