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Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by emae009(m): 12:14pm On Sep 24
seunfly:


Yes u are correct except that there is no improvement and they are also making money from it unlike samsung exynos that is under going improvement and a matter of pride. Samsung can't be fabricating Chips for Apple, google and Co and their own chips lays idle.

One of the reasons why iPhone hardly has any significant improvement in fast charging is partly due to lightning port slow data transfer.

They had no choice on the iPad and MacBook because they will be shooting themselves in the foot.

There have been improvement over the years. From 5w to 20w that's improvement. It's not 120w nor 66w or whatever but it's an improvement nevertheless. Apple have their own doctrine of how they want their consumer products to progress. You can't be using other phone manufacturers' doctrine to judge the iPhone.

Also, Samsung don't fabricate chips for Apple or Google... Just last year is the first time they did for Qualcomm (SD888).
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by seunfly: 1:18pm On Sep 24
emae009:


There have been improvement over the years. From 5w to 20w that's improvement. It's not 120w nor 66w or whatever but it's an improvement nevertheless. Apple have their own doctrine of how they want their consumer products to progress. You can't be using other phone manufacturers' doctrine to judge the iPhone.

Also, Samsung don't fabricate chips for Apple or Google... Just last year is the first time they did for Qualcomm (SD888).

The improvement is very slow and like I said partly thanks to Lightning port even though that is not the only reason, instead apple is looking at portless iphone as soon as their wireless technology has improve enough.

Samsung as always manufactured Apple's chip until 2013 when Tsmc started doing it and I think they also did briefly in 2017, Samsung also manufacture google tensor chip and the latest snapdragon.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by Edeyoung: 2:22pm On Sep 24
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Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by emae009(m): 2:43pm On Sep 24
seunfly:


The improvement is very slow and like I said partly thanks to Lightning port even though that is not the only reason, instead apple is looking at portless iphone as soon as their wireless technology has improve enough.

Samsung as always manufactured Apple's chip until 2013 when Tsmc started doing it and I think they also did briefly in 2017, Samsung also manufacture google tensor chip and the latest snapdragon.

The lightning port can support fast charging but the battery won't achieve 80% health status in 5years. That's like one of the core idea behind each iPhone battery design and optimization. If you check most of the phones with superfast chargers have a 80% battery health after 2 years while the iPhone is around 90% (base on normal charging cycle).
if they do move to USB-C, which I doubt, I think they will still cap their fast charging below what the competition offers
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by walemoney007(m): 4:15pm On Sep 24
emae009:


The lightning port can support fast charging but the battery won't achieve 80% health status in 5years. That's like one of the core idea behind each iPhone battery design and optimization. If you check most of the phones with superfast chargers have a 80% battery health after 2 years while the iPhone is around 90% (base on normal charging cycle).
if they do move to USB-C, which I doubt, I think they will still cap their fast charging below what the competition offers
Why do you doubt they won't port to USB-C? If the law is pass, they will have 24 months to decide if they want to stay in the EU market or not.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by seunfly: 6:00pm On Sep 24
emae009:


The lightning port can support fast charging but the battery won't achieve 80% health status in 5years. That's like one of the core idea behind each iPhone battery design and optimization. If you check most of the phones with superfast chargers have a 80% battery health after 2 years while the iPhone is around 90% (base on normal charging cycle).
if they do move to USB-C, which I doubt, I think they will still cap their fast charging below what the competition offers

No doubt battery durability is part of the reasons iPhone is reluctant but the theory of fast charging degrading battery is based on old technology, there are latest technology that does not really boost the charging perse, it split cell technology in which ur battery will be splits into two or more cells. This simply means u are not charging 5000mah instead u are charging 1000mah cells in 5 places, if it takes u 3hours to charge 5000mah, it will narrow it down to like 30 minutes to charge 5000mah, this where ur charger and port comes in.
The real reason why iPhone battery health last longer than average Android is software optimization and so many hidden things Apple does to manage the lifespan of their batteries since it is covers with warranty in certain countries. We saw example of such hidden things when they were caught for deliberately slowing down their phones through software updates. However average Android manufacturers are not concerned with that and they don't have full power on software l I ke apple.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by seunfly: 6:48pm On Sep 24
walemoney007:
Why do you doubt they won't port to USB-C? If the law is pass, they will have 24 months to decide if they want to stay in the EU market or not.
Knowing apple, they might not, instead they will introduce another dondles lightning to type c.
Although there has been talk about apple switching to type c USB since 2019, they always go back to that port.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by samsard(m): 6:21am On Sep 25
HillaryNelo:
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Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by emae009(m): 11:06am On Sep 25
walemoney007:
Why do you doubt they won't port to USB-C? If the law is pass, they will have 24 months to decide if they want to stay in the EU market or not.

2 reasons from my POV:
1) It's Apple. Not in a cocky way but when it comes to their proprietary design, they usually go to great lengths to preserve it.
2) It will mean they will either have to produce 2 sets of iPhone, one with the lighting port and one with USB-C for European market. So if I have to guess, I think they might ship European iPhones with USB-C to lighting port dongle than move straight to USB-C. Precedence: France pass a law that all phones in their market must come with wired earpiece. So instead of keeping the earpiece port, Apple included a earpiece jack to lighting port dongle for the French market.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by emae009(m): 11:15am On Sep 25
seunfly:


No doubt battery durability is part of the reasons iPhone is reluctant but the theory of fast charging degrading battery is based on old technology, there are latest technology that does not really boost the charging perse, it split cell technology in which ur battery will be splits into two or more cells. This simply means u are not charging 5000mah instead u are charging 1000mah cells in 5 places, if it takes u 3hours to charge 5000mah, it will narrow it down to like 30 minutes to charge 5000mah, this where ur charger and port comes in.
The real reason why iPhone battery health last longer than average Android is software optimization and so many hidden things Apple does to manage the lifespan of their batteries since it is covers with warranty in certain countries. We saw example of such hidden things when they were caught for deliberately slowing down their phones through software updates. However average Android manufacturers are not concerned with that and they don't have full power on software l I ke apple.


nice!... you're explaining how superfast charging is achieved with great speed with the split cells and all that.
Fast charging degrades battery faster. Battery technology is not yet matured to mitigate that. There's was a time where phone companies where creating charging awareness like don't charge your phone unless it's 20% or less, charge to 100% once in a while not always, don't charge and use your phone; and all of that. They even went as far as making your phone slow charge once it gets to 80%.
Charging of battery is basically creates heat and heat is not good for Battery life. That's why phones with superfast charge comes with some form of cooling tech to try and reduce that effect.
In the future with the research that's going on, I think we'll be able to crack that area but it's not yet there.

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Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by walemoney007(m): 11:20am On Sep 25
emae009:


2 reasons from my POV:
1) It's Apple. Not in a cocky way but when it comes to their proprietary design, they usually go to great lengths to preserve it.
2) It will mean they will either have to produce 2 sets of iPhone, one with the lighting port and one with USB-C for European market. So if I have to guess, I think they might ship European iPhones with USB-C to lighting port dongle than move straight to USB-C. Precedence: France pass a law that all phones in their market must come with wired earpiece. So instead of keeping the earpiece port, Apple included a earpiece jack to lighting port dongle for the French market.
Hmm

So Apple will find a way around this for EU market? I'm sure they will find a way around it, cause they won't want to lose the EU market.
Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by enoch273: 5:14pm On Sep 25
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Re: Eu Wants Every Phone To Have Same Charger – Including Iphone by seunfly: 9:53pm On Sep 25
emae009:


nice!... you're explaining how superfast charging is achieved with great speed with the split cells and all that.
Fast charging degrades battery faster. Battery technology is not yet matured to mitigate that. There's was a time where phone companies where creating charging awareness like don't charge your phone unless it's 20% or less, charge to 100% once in a while not always, don't charge and use your phone; and all of that. They even went as far as making your phone slow charge once it gets to 80%.
Charging of battery is basically creates heat and heat is not good for Battery life. That's why phones with superfast charge comes with some form of cooling tech to try and reduce that effect.
In the future with the research that's going on, I think we'll be able to crack that area but it's not yet there.

Basically everything u are saying is based on old technology like I v said before.

There are some wrong things here.
1) every time u charged ur phone, u are not starting from 0%, many manufacturer calibrates phone short down level BTW 15% to 20% and phone full level BTW 80% to 90% depending on d manufacturer. Ur phone may display 0% or 100% just know it is 15/20% for 0 %display on ur phone and 80/90% for 100% on ur phone.
2) Like I told u before the latest technology is not like more voltage and Amp to battery to accelerate it charging time, rather it same speed on smaller cells, the few down side is capacity in never optimum.

3 fast charging is never hotter than ordinary charging, even though heat truly damages battery however latest fast operates almost the same way as ur normal charging.

4 There is never any cooling system for Battery in fast charging, all the liquid cooling in samsung, vapor cooling in xiaomi or tubor fan cooling in Asus is not for Battery but for the Socs.

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