Luke 19:38-40
[38]saying: “ ‘Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!’ Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”
[39]And some of the Pharisees called to Him from the crowd, “Teacher, rebuke Your disciples.”

[40]But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out.”

The Pharisees don't want trouble with the Romans

The do not want a king yet, they were waiting for a Messiah and they never believed that Jesus is it....

They frown at any Jew talking about Kings among themselves

illicit:
The Pharisees don't want trouble with the Romans

The do not want a king yet, they were waiting for a Messiah and they never believed that Jesus is it....

They frown at any Jew talking about Kings among themselves

If that was the case, wasn't Herod a king too? It was more than mere earthly kingship

Preciousgirl:


If that was the case, wasn't Herod a king too? It was more than mere earthly kingship

Herod wasn't a king per se, he was a ruler installed by the Romans

He wasn't even a Jew

illicit:


Herod wasn't a king per se, he was a ruler installed by the Romans

He wasn't even a Jew

Any references to the effect? That Herod wasn't a jew

Preciousgirl:


Any references to the effect? That Herod wasn't a jew

He wasnt....


I am surprised u don't know tho

Preciousgirl:

Luke 19:38-40
[38]saying: “ ‘Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!’ Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”
[39]And some of the Pharisees called to Him from the crowd, “Teacher, rebuke Your disciples.”

[40]But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent, the stones would immediately cry out.”

Because Jesus Christ was Rabbi to His followers? Or His disciples were Jesus Christ's followers and it was typically the place of the Teacher to correct his followers\students?

illicit:

He wasnt....
I am surprised u don't know tho

I am sorry, what? Herod was not a Jew? Why do you say this?

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry, what? Herod was not a Jew? Why do you say this?

He was not an Israelite, he was a tetrach imposed by Romans....

illicit:
He was not an Israelite, he was a tetrach imposed by Romans....

Where did you get this from?

Kobojunkie:
Where did you get this from?

What makes you think he was an isrealite

illicit:

What makes you think he was an isrealite

He was a Jew so chances are he was an Israelite or of the land.

Kobojunkie:
He was a Jew so chances are he was an Israelite or of the land.

What makes you think he was a Jew, did Jews have Kings/tetrarchs among theirselves when Jesus was born

He was a foreigner imposed on the Jews, he was never one of them

This is simple arithmetic bro

illicit:
What makes you think he was a Jew, did Jews have Kings/tetrarchs among theirselves when Jesus was born

He was a foreigner imposed on the Jews, he was never one of them

This is simple arithmetic bro

Where again your proof of this claim?

Kobojunkie:
Where again your proof of this claim?

You haven't answered any of the questions that will give u ur answers....

Was he a king? If yes, was he a son of David

Did the Jews have Kings of David's line at Jesus time

Therein lies the answer s you seek

He was not an Israelite, he was not a jew

illicit:

You haven't answered any of the questions that will give u ur answers....
Was he a king? If yes, was he a son of David
Did the Jews have Kings of David's line at Jesus time
Therein lies the answer s you seek
He was not an Israelite, he was not a jew

Jews are not sons of David and not all Kings of Judea or Israel all of descended from David. Neither are all Hebrews Isrealites.

Kobojunkie:
Jews are not sons of David and not all Kings of Judea or Israel all of descended from David. Neither are all Hebrews Isrealites.

Exactly, so if Herod was a Jew and an Israelite like you imagined.... Whose son was he

illicit:

Exactly, so if Herod was a Jew and an Israelite like you imagined.... Whose son was he

I just told you that

Kobojunkie:
Jews are not sons of David and not all Kings of Judea or Israel all of descended from David. Neither are all Hebrews Isrealites.

Meaning my saying Herod was a Jew was not as you imagined there.

So, are you going to answer my question?

Kobojunkie:
I just told you that Meaning my saying Herod was a Jew was not as you imagined there.

So, are you going to answer my question?

He is not a Jew

It's on u to prove otherwise

illicit:

He is not a Jew
It's on u to prove otherwise

So you don't even know this for a fact?

Kobojunkie:
So you don't even know this for a fact?

Obviously I don't

Tell me, whose son was he
I am actually curious

illicit:

Obviously I don't

Tell me, whose son was he
I am actually curious

According to Wiki, the one Herod was son of Antipas , an Edomite(of the root of Esau).

Kobojunkie:
He was a Jew so chances are he was an Israelite or of the land.

Kobojunkie:
According to Wiki, the one Herod was son of Antipas , an Edomite(of the root of Esau).

So you see now that he wasn't an Israelite neither a Jew

illicit:
So you see now that he wasn't an Israelite neither a Jew

Not only Isrealites are jews - according to the wiki ,Herod was a practicing Jew.

Father forgive the Pharisees for they didn't know what they were saying. You heard the Lord's Response. It was to establish THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE TRINITY OF HIS KINGDOM. THE STONES WOULD CRY OUT TO DO THE PRAISING AS THE LORD WISHED. THAT WAS NOT ORDINARY. IT WAS A MIRACLE SPEECH LIKE IT WAS TO RECOVER MARY MAGDALENE FROM ZEALOTS.