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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Nobody: 9:30am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
[s][/s] I will surely disgrace you today...

You have proven to me how dumb you are! Wawa half baked illiterate...

Lets analyze and see for ourselves!

75% of  government spending is connered by Southerners via the domination of salary earning, contracts, projects, bail outs and other interventions. Trade and industries are dominated by Southerners who have easy access to multi billion credit facilities courtesy their domination of state financial structure and instruments and institutions. 


Every ministry is dominated by them. All our markets are monopolized by them due to their control of capital that enable them to finance business and take more risk due to ease of acces to money. They conrol their markets by regular disruptuons of our businesses officially and by direct frequent violence unofficially. Their control of and easy access to liquidity enable them to be more enerprising business wise. They buy our goods cheap and sell theirs exorbitantly.


To preserve the exploitative status quo they spread false verson of the reality. They centralize oil as the main source of wealth so that our attention will be far away from other sources of wealth they dominate.

[b]Oil is less than 10% of  Nigeria's GDP. [/b]They tell us we are the parasite and we are lazy and we are uneducated to instil a sense of guilt, self hate and inadequacy in us.

Educate your daughters first and stop Bokoharam -Nigeria need more educated people to boost her tax and diaspora remittances.Thanks Mr.Educator from quota system.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Safyqueen: 9:31am On Sep 27, 2021
Danjikanbauchi:
shut up. Even federal government depend on this two state to feed the whole Muslim states.

You are too unlearned to contribute into this discussion. Which one is Muslim state? The topic of discussion here is VAT- value added tax not internally generated revenue IGR. VAT is paid by final consumer of certain goods and services to those responsible for the stages through which value are added in the production of that goods and services.

Does it occur to you that an MTN subscriber in Kano pay VAT which is turned in at Lagos? See your bank alert don't you see VAT? Those VAT are turned in at the businesses head offices which are in this two states due to their proximity to certain natural phenomena which is not their making.

The northern governors will have to check this VAT and see how much their citizens contributed then device a way to get to that on their own. That's why no state has the infrastructure as FIRS to determine and collect the tax adequately for now.

North abhor alcoholic beverages but still produced the grain used in the production of the stuff. Agricultural produce going southern Nigeria would have to attract VAT because they are exclusive as at now.

Nobody is parasite in the greatness of this country Nigeria. Every state has their comparative advantages to exploit.

Infact Kogi State for example by virtue of location will have to charge travellers passing through the state to improve their IGR. Tit for tat.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Redcrafton: 9:31am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
[s][/s] Very useless set of people.

Why must these Hypocrites always find ways to rubbish Islam?

You can't hate my religion and expect me to be a part of you. NEVER.

As long as you all drag Islam into any madness , NOTHING in your life is going to be achieved.

Any sensible person that reads the bible from cover to cover with open mind will dumb chrstianity and lookbfor another religion bor turn to an atheist..

The United States used to be a Christian nation, today it is the HQ of atheism in the world today and even those who still claim to be Christians are those who see nothing wrong in abortion, homosexuality, fornication and adultery among other forbidden practices.

They became what they are when the Christians started belittling the teachings of their religion, watering it down and making it so that everyone is a Christian "just believe in Jesus and you'll go to heaven". This worked for a generation, but didn't for subsequent generations.

We can see it starting to play out here in Nigeria. Chrstianity is the peak of inmorality, deceit, fraud and insults of other faiths

Stop abusing people when you are told the truth.

Dandauda is rife in Kano, your islamic centre.

You claim western countries are bad but millions of Muslims are dying to migrfate their instead of Saudi, PAkistian, Iran, and afiganistan.

Shame.

I bet you will choose a US visa than Saudi Visa.

Continuing using you taqqiya to deceive yourself.

All we are saying is that that we practice fiscal federation, where every region should be free to progress at its own pace. For more than 100 years the north has used our collective resource to develop while the south is left empty. Our federal roads are worse in the country, we have no rail, while you are building rail line to Niger republic. How is this too much to ask, even when you have claimed that you are bigger with hue and have extensive resources? Can't poor southerners breath?

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by SmartPolician: 9:34am On Sep 27, 2021
Cnach:

You are very wrong. The first work of he is even international matters. He is the one to defend Nigerian in case of any international case. Secondly, to make legal documents for the federal government in case of purchase and other agreements. he is in no way to work for the executive as he is doing, but to be a guru who is to settle any case as the one at hand now looking directly and strictly into the constitution of Nigeria without even 0.01 twist of it. But his work right now has been limited to attorney general of the executive.


There's nothing wrong with what I stated. The Attorney-General of the Federation is different from the Chief Justice of Nigeria. I was not interested in his other functions because they are many, but I was making references to the VAT case. He gives the president legal advice and protects the interest of the executive, where necessary.

He is an appointee of the president and takes instructions from him. In fact, he is the minister of justice of Nigeria. Being a minister, it simply means that the president can decide to kick him out if he doesn't do what the president wants him to do. I don't know other explanation you need.

Read this to learn more: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/01/26/the-office-of-the-attorney-general-of-the-federation/

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:34am On Sep 27, 2021
Redcrafton:


Stop abusing people when you are told the truth.

Dandauda is rife in Kano, your islamic centre.

You claim western countries are bad but millions of Muslims are dying to migrfate their instead of Saudi, PAkistian, Iran, and afiganistan.

Shame.

I bet you will choose a US visa than Saudi Visa.

Continuing using you taqqiya to deceive yourself.

All we are saying is that that we practice fiscal federation, where every region should be free to progress at its own pace. For more than 100 years the north has used our collective resource to develop while the south is left empty. Our federal roads are worse in the country, we have no rail, while you are building rail line to Niger republic. How is this too much to ask, even when you have claimed that you are bigger with hue and have extensive resources? Can't poor southerners breath?
Historically, Muslims had always been badly misunderstood by the false propaganda that the anti-Islamic spread against Muslims and Islam.


You chrstians are liars Hypocrites and shamefull....


They go to work, live, holiday & shop in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait & Qatar.
While there, they subject themselves completely to Sharia laws & Islamic injunctions that govern these countries.
They even learn Arabic to be able to communicate effectively.
But here in Nigeria that is governed by laws & a constitution that is based on the Christian CANONICAL laws...;
here in Nigeria that uses for all its official documents, schedules & civil observances the GREGORIAN calendar named after Pope Gregory XIII, who issued the papal bull Inter gravissimas in 1582, announcing calendar reforms for all of Catholic Christiandom which gave birth to the Gregorian calendar in use today also called the Western or Christian calendar...;
they want to die whenever they see Arabic inscription on anything. They are so afraid of Islamization & are all running away to the Middle East to escape been Islamized by Buhari.
Odiegwu Really!
Self-deceit & idiotic hypocrisy should indeed have a limit!!

You fear Islamization yet travel far to treat same Muslims,
Isn't God wonderful?
Indeed he is the God of humans- both Muslims and Christians!
When you make the money,
Remember to return home
And train the student doctors behind,
After all, others trained you for the Saudis,
The system paid for your medical school.
Again, isn't time, Govt stop funding medical schools,
After all, they leave for Saudis after receiving medical lessons
In Buhari's Islamized Nigeria.
Farewell, our medical doctors,
Enroute Saudi Arabia, for Arabia dough,
Say, Salam to the Saudis, another Islamic country!
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:40am On Sep 27, 2021
Redcrafton:


Stop abusing people when you are told the truth.

Dandauda is rife in Kano, your islamic centre.

You claim western countries are bad but millions of Muslims are dying to migrfate their instead of Saudi, PAkistian, Iran, and afiganistan.

Shame.

I bet you will choose a US visa than Saudi Visa.

Continuing using you taqqiya to deceive yourself.

All we are saying is that that we practice fiscal federation, where every region should be free to progress at its own pace. For more than 100 years the north has used our collective resource to develop while the south is left empty. Our federal roads are worse in the country, we have no rail, while you are building rail line to Niger republic. How is this too much to ask, even when you have claimed that you are bigger with hue and have extensive resources? Can't poor southerners breath?
you think you are smart I'll show you pepper today! What is tqiyya that you keep mentioning?


Crhstian "Liars" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule

“And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”


According to Encyclopedia Britannica
"Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Redcrafton: 9:40am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:

In the whole 8years of OBJ's administration he did not see a single Hausa/Fulani northerner worthy of appointment as Service Chief, IGP or DG (DSS). Victor Malu, Martin Luther Agwai, Jonah Wuyep, Luka Yusuf, Ibrahim Ogehi, then IGP Tafa Balogun, Musliu Smith, Sunday Ehindero, Mike Okiro up to the DG (DSS) Col. Aare (rtd), were his selected appointees to oversee our security architecture.

Where appointments were to be made from Kano or Sokoto (whole seat of Chaliphate) he would look for the Adamu Baikis, the Solomon Matankaris who are indegenous Christians of the area. If Hausas/Fulanis

...... Igbonization or Nepotism.

So your issue is about religion and not region or state?

Read the section of the constitution again and you will find that Obj has better spread than this government.

Again what had Igbonization got to to with it? Is Obasanjo an Igbo.?

You are being haunted by your shadow.

Can you also show where Obsanjo asked the Yorubas to go to every village and claim people's land or kill them?
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Redcrafton: 9:43am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
you think you are smart I'll show you pepper today! What is tqiyya that you keep mentioning?


Crhstian "Liars" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule

“And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”


According to Encyclopedia Britannica
"Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims.

You don't' know what the truth is..

From you definition...Taqqiya means hiding, concealing, deceit...

Or how would you expect to take more VAT from beer that you destroy?

Are you human at all?

Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:45am On Sep 27, 2021
Redcrafton:


So your issue is about religion and not region or state?

Read the section of the constitution again and you will find that Obj has better spread than this government.

Again what had Igbonization got to to with it? Is Obasanjo an Igbo.?

You are being haunted by your shadow.

Can you also show where Obsanjo asked the Yorubas to go to every village and claim people's land or kill them?
I will keep disgracing you with facts today!


You thought Northerners are fools right? Simply because we chose been peaceful and tolerate you minorities?


Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by MansoryMX(m): 9:45am On Sep 27, 2021
ThankUJesus:
Lagos state does not produce anything aside Egbero, Rivers does not produce anything aside Cultist, they want to collect VAT from imported goods, turn your State to production state and collect your VAT, but wait for federal government to import and go back door to collect VAT is RUBISH, Lagos should VAT Egbero and Rivers their own CULTIST


Congratulations. You just won the most stupid comment of the year award!
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:46am On Sep 27, 2021
Redcrafton:


So your issue is about religion and not region or state?

Read the section of the constitution again and you will find that Obj has better spread than this government.

Again what had Igbonization got to to with it? Is Obasanjo an Igbo.?

You are being haunted by your shadow.

Can you also show where Obsanjo asked the Yorubas to go to every village and claim people's land or kill them?
I will keep disgracing you with facts today!


You thought Northerners are fools right? Simply because we chose been peaceful and tolerate you minorities?


Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.******
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by slydog(m): 9:48am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
Only Northerners truly believe Nigeria is one. The facts speak for themselves:
Go to Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria,Kadpoly Kaduna, Bayero University, Kano, University of Maiduguri, Federal University Dutsinma, Katsina, and other Federal and state government higher institutions in the North, you will see Yorubas, Igbos, and other tribes from the South and East as Deans of Faculties, HODs of Departments, Registrars, DVCs, Exams Officers, etc. And thousands of Southerners are studying there as students in different Departments.
But try and visit University of Nigeria Nsuka, and University of Ibadan and other Universities in either the South or the East. You will never see Hausas or Fulani as staff or student there in. In fact, you have to hide to pray in those mentioned places. We employ them and give admissions to their children, but they reject us in total. Indeed, Only the Northerners consider Nigeria as one.
In fact, I know many Senators and House of Reps here in the North, especially in Kano state who share Federal and state government appointments with Igbos and Yorubas living in their constituencies. Only northerners consider Nigeria as one.
You hardly see a Local Government in the North without a Church. You have the right to build your worship centres anywhere in the North. We give you land to build your houses and Churches. You observe your religion without any molestation. You dress the way you want. We buy from you, and we sell to you, this happen only in the North.
In return, what we get from them is genocide, molestation, and total rejection. We accommodate them here in the north, they pusue us out of their regions.
LOKACI YAYI KOWA YA AMSA SUNAN UBANSHI

You don't think it's because on the average, the yorubas and igbo are more educated than the house's and fulani, averagely and per capita
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:49am On Sep 27, 2021
Redcrafton:


You don't' know what the truth is..

From you definition...Taqqiya means hiding, concealing, deceit...

Or how would you expect to take more VAT from beer that you destroy?

Are you human at all?
You know this VAT thing is like a basta*d child confidently demanding for DNA test in protest against sharing the inheritance with another child he or she considers to be undeserving.
If every State stands alone, you will realise that your bragging is on thin air. We have clearly seen that Lagos, Abuja, Rivers, Kano lead the pack.
If we carry out a simple VAT fertility you will see that your State is VAT impotent....and your much touted beer VAT are blank shots....

We say no to alcohol!!!

You say yes to it because you are satanic people...then go ahead and drink


Why must you force it on our lands?


We don't need the money! Yes


Online tribalist haters are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by MansoryMX(m): 9:49am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
FACT!!!
How Herdsmen Paid To Educate Southern Nigeria.
By 1943, one of the highest revenue generator for the federation account was livestock tax.
Northern region generated £120,000
Eastern region generated £2,000
Western region generated £50
Lagos colony generated 0
The expenditure on education was as follows:
Northern region £2,341
Eastern region £47,000
Western region £34,000
Lagos colony £17,000
What this meant was that it was cow money from the north that colonialists use to send majority of Nigerians from Southern region to school at that time.
If you have no knowledge of Adams Smith rhetorics on "THE WEALTH OF THE NATION", then don't join the debate on VAT.


The kind of nonsense I see in Nairaland from these grown Almagiris children will one day choke me with laughter. WTF is this bro. Is this the kind of nonsense they teach you people in Almagiris school or what?

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Nobody: 9:51am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:

In the whole 8years of OBJ's administration he did not see a single Hausa/Fulani northerner worthy of appointment as Service Chief, IGP or DG (DSS). Victor Malu, Martin Luther Agwai, Jonah Wuyep, Luka Yusuf, Ibrahim Ogehi, then IGP Tafa Balogun, Musliu Smith, Sunday Ehindero, Mike Okiro up to the DG (DSS) Col. Aare (rtd), were his selected appointees to oversee our security architecture.

Where appointments were to be made from Kano or Sokoto (whole seat of Chaliphate) he would look for the Adamu Baikis, the Solomon Matankaris who are indegenous Christians of the area. If Hausas/Fulanis complained, Obj’s response was, “all the appointees were your people, brothers from the North”. Of course they were; he even used sme tactics to play a very dangerous divide and rule politics with northerners; his arrow - headmen, Jerry Gana & Solomon Lar were part and parcel of the Villa cabals, members of his kitchen cabinet who determined most appointment made by the government Agencies. Google all the very sensitive position then, there was no single Hausa or Fulani there. CBN, Joseph Sanusi later Soludo. Custom Buba Gyan, NNPC Edmund Dakoru, to mention just a few.

Never forget that OBJ flushed out more than 500 soldiers of Northern extraction, from the ranks of Major and above, who held political appointments during the past military administrations, including orderlies and ADCs. Those who survived his hammer, like Bamalli Nuhu were assembled and bombed in the mountainous region; between Benue and Cross River States.

Obasanjo’s civil service reform were mainly targeted at northerners who mostly, (80%) became victims; from NEPA,Maritime, NPA and Aviation etc. Northerners were major casualties. Similarly all the replacements that followed were from his kiths and kins, and his god sons.

Prior to 1999, more than 15 international airlines operate or had their routes to Kano, but Obasanjo made sure he decimated that to only 3 before he left. Very very fresh in our memories is how he stylishly killed all the Northern textiles, groundnuts and cotton pyramids as well as many other agronomic economies; particularly the poultry using the hoax claim of “birds flu” conspiracy that obliterated all major players in the sector, from northern region. He also deliberately opened our boarders for the importation of all kinds of agricultural goods, which tactically killed virtually all local industries in Kano, Kaduna, Gusau to mention just a few. He stated and ensured DIC and Peugeot and Steyr plants became comatose.virtually all critical northern enterprises were put out of business with deadly attendant consequences.

For example, in Kano alone there were more than 5000 factories / industries located in Challawa, Bompai and Sharada industrial estates. Before Obj’s tenure ended he made sure 80% of those factories folded up, and the remaining 20% were operating at half level, below minimal capacities due to his well designed, well executed, skewed economic policies.

Remember the housing, monetization and privatisation policies he used our people to execute? This program was conceptualised and well executed to basically empower his kiths and Kins to owned choice properties in Abuja and Lagos. The privatisation was used to catapult cronies and surrogates, as well as God sons, into multi-billionaires. People like Mike Adenuga, Fola Adeola, Jimoh Ibrahim, Jim Ovia, Chris and the Andy Ubahs, to mention just a few.

Most of these people were, prior to 1999, using night buses to & fro Lagos/Abuja. Incidentally within a span of short period, all were flying private jets,while the country, North in particular was rapidly sliding backwards. One can continue on and on; why the north and northerners tolerated all that, only God knows.

The current clamor for self determination by some states from previous regions are nothing but blackmails that, to me, are dead on arrival. Rather than experiencing the Obj treatment again, it suffices if every single region go its separate way. The north can not afford to make the 1999 blunder again. Democracy is a game of numbers; anybody who thinks he/she is competent to lead us should come out and contest. The north is not ready to concede to any blackmail.

The Igbos, their cousins in South South & Christians were in total control of the Federal Executive Council, the National Assembly, the Army, Police at some point, DSS & office of the CJN etc.

In the 6 years of Jonathan, the southerners alone where in total control of 85% of key federal executive & legislative positions as well as heads of strategic federal agencies & the Army.

The North did not grudge them nor made cricket noises about Marginalization, Christianization, Igbonization or Nepotism.

My friend you call yourself born to rule ,look at your leadership nah -Youve milked Nigeria dry to become the poverty capital of the world.
Displacing indigenous Nigerians.
Weve pampered the Fulanis too much -Out of the current 19 states in the north only 4 is been governed by the Indegenes-
Youve allocated all resources,local government,constitutions to favor you.
This generation dont want you,either you agree for a referendum or we leave you guys alone to your Fulani Nigeria and move on....
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 9:54am On Sep 27, 2021
9jah:


My friend you call yourself born to rule ,look at your leadership nah -Youve milked Nigeria dry to become the poverty capital of the world.
Displacing indigenous Nigerians.
Weve pampered the Fulanis too much -Out of the current 19 states in the north only 4 is been governed by the Indegenes-
Youve allocated all resources,local government,constitutions to favor you.
This generation dont want you,either you agree for a referendum or we leave you guys alone to your Fulani Nigeria and move on....
HOW THE SOUTHERN VAMPIRES SUCK THE NORTH DRY
Banks run over a dozen of financial facilities from loans to cash transfer. Each facility generates billions for the bank owners.
Northerners with a population of about 140 million do not own a single bank in Nigeria, except for some tiny community banks.
Daily, about 20 million Northerners do bank transfer through some of the big commercial banks that belong to Southerners and each one of them is now charged 20 naira.
20 × 20 million = 400 million. This is the amount Northerners give to Southerners daily on just a single type of bank transaction out of many. In a month it means 4 billion × 29 = 116000000000 (116.billion). In a year it translates into 116000000000 × 12 = 1392000000000 (1.392 trillion).
1.392 trillion the north is giving to the south every year is enough to:
1- 2,784,000 low cost houses each year at unit cost of 5 million.
or
2- 1,392,000 village schools each year at unit cost of 10 million.
or
3- 13,920 small scale industries each year at unit cost of 100 million.
4- Give 50,000 Naira scholarship to 2,784,000 students yearly.
You can think of other projects the amount Northerners are wasting on the Southerners for a single bank facility called mobile transfer and do the maths.
Now come to think of it how much money move from the North to South for the entire banking services. It is estimated to be over 13 trillion which more than double the entire federal budgetary allocation given to the North.
That is just the banking sector. Similar humongous losses are registered in other sectors such as telecommunications, insurance, education, trade, etc This is not an issue for individuals or groups to tackle. It is a political economic issue calling for political decision and action. It is the core reason the North is economically backward. Northern poverty is a direct result, mainly, of lack control of financial and natural resource. Northerners must call for restructuring for direct control of trade, manufacturing and the service industry. Forget about the false Southern propaganda that Northerners are lazy. Millions of Northerner wake up at 4 am and work their bones tired to 8pm and beyond making very little. Their resources have been taken over and only political action can restore them.
The Southern Nigerians have taken political action to stop herders and Ruga project, they took political action to take over trade by demolishing markets owned by Northerners in the South, they took political action to stunt Northern transport business through officially encouraging violent taut action, they took poitical action to demoralized Northerners via massive media stereotype and false propaganda etc
This is the reason those Southern leeches exploiting the North as bankers, transporters, counterfeit goods traders, school owners, estate prospectors, contractors, kidnapping and terrorist sponsors do not wish to leave the North or have Nigeria broken up as oppose to their ignorant tribesmen agitating for break up. These leeches when they talk about restructuring, they mean more political concession and control is to be given to them to permanently dominate the economic life of Northerners
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Nobody: 9:55am On Sep 27, 2021
Hangmnk:
Okay let's wait for Afonja Christians and IPOB terrorists to tell us how the meeting was funded with Cocoa, cassava, red Oil. What do Sad yeast even produce besides Lowlife terrorists, child factories, drug traffickers and international prostitutes

You're too toxic for the good of any decent environment and people who are progressive minded. You somehow shamelessly managed to give ethnic colouration to an important issue that should have required your logical input. And that same stupidity probably accounts for why you have failed to even know that the Cocoa and Palm oil you're trying to rubbish accounts for over 60% of Nigeria's Agricultural exports.

So whether you decide to have sense or not, the South has to be confidently proud of themselves because even those Agricultural products come from there. Keep playing the tribal card and spewing unnecessary hate with an empty stomach! Mpama!
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by slydog(m): 9:56am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
I will keep disgracing you with facts today!


You thought Northerners are fools right? Simply because we chose been peaceful and tolerate you minorities?


Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.******

Beautiful analysis
But like I mentioned earlier, in a competitive system where education and skill rather than quota is to be used as the minimum qualification for employment, I can assure you, the figures for the North will be far less than what you have populated.
How can I proof this?
In systems or private sector where skill and top notch education is the only basis for employment, you will find the Igbos and yorubas getting employed ahead of the Northerners.
So saying that southerners have more in employment in the public sector is not you doing us a favour, the folks down here value education and skills. To the average yoruba man, the only legacy he can give his child is education, not religion. There's a reason the top universities in the country are from the south.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Redcrafton: 9:59am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
I will keep disgracing you with facts today!


You thought Northerners are fools right? Simply because we chose been peaceful and tolerate you minorities?


Number of Federal Civil Servants State by State
1: Abia 3579
2. Adamawa 1727
3. Akwa Ibom 4416
4. Anambra 3576
5. Bauchi 1172
6. Bayelsa 957
7. Benue 3951
8. Borno 1822
9. Cross River 2681
10. Delta 4419
11. Ebonyi 865
12. Edo 3890
13. Ekiti 2613
14. Enugu 2695
15. FCT 533
16. Gombe 1218
17. Imo 5825
18. Jigawa 675
19. Kaduna 3199
20. Kano 1545
21. Katsina 1237
22. Kebbi 875
23. Kogi 5186
24. Kwara 2537
25. Lagos 2180
26. Nasarawa 1452
27. Niger 2193
28. Ogun 4669
29. Ondo 3393
30. Osun 3321
31. Oyo 3244
32. Plateau 2542
33. Rivers 1675
34. Sokoto 732
35. Taraba 1112
36. Yobe 744
37. Zamfara 543
Not specified 518
TOTAL: 89,511
By Dr Joe Abah - DG, Bureau of Public Service
Reforms". (C): Johnson Andrew, this is the Analyzed data based on population figures of each state.

THE DIRECTOR GENERAL OF PUBLIC SERVICE REFORMS, RELEASED STATISTICS OF EMPLOYMENTS INTO OUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE RAW FIGURES PER STATE ARE

(A). EMPLOYMENT INTO THE PUBLIC SERVICE
NE with a population of 19.0m has 7,793
NW with a population of 35.8m has 8,806
SE with a population of 16.4m has 16,540
NC with a population of 20.3m has 17,661
SS with a population of 21.0m has 18,038
SW with a population of 27.6m has 19,620

To appreciate this figures, it is necessary to find out how many employees are taken from every 1 million people in each of the geographical zones.

The result is:
1st. SE has 1,009 Employees per million
2nd. NC has 970 Employees per million
3rd. SS has 859 Employees per million
4th SW has 711 Employees per million
5th NE has 410 Employees per million
6th NW has 246 Employees per million

Here we can see that South Eastern Zone has over 1000 people engaged in the public service of Nigeria in every 1 million Igbo people, whereas only 246 people are engaged in North West!
Remember that this is the Zone of the President of Nigeria.

Curiously South West, the Zone of the Vice President is the least in Southern Nigeria with the employment of 711 people in a million.
It is pertinent to see the trend as regards Political Office holders. Probably, those that lost out in the Public Service, are compensated with Political offices. Let's perform sample surgical operation on the political employees.

(B . POLITICAL APPOINTMENT
We all have the statistics of political appointees of the current Buhari administration.
NW has 51political appointees from 7 states
NC has 47 political appointees from 6 states
NE has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SW has 45 political appointees from 6 states
SS has 45 political appointees from 6 States
SE has 41 political appointees from 5 states
These translate to:
1st. SE: 2.50 appointees in a million.
2nd. NE: 2.37 appointees in a million.
3rd. NC: 2.34 appointees in a million.
4th. SS: 2.14 appointees in a million.
5th. SW:1.63 appointees in a million.
6th. NW:1.42 appointees in a million.
Alternatively:
1st. SE: has 1 appointee in every 400,000
2nd. NE: has 1 appointee in every 422,000
3rd. NC: has 1 appointee in every 427,000
4th. SS: has 1 appointee in every 467,000
5th. SW: has 1 appointee in every 614,000
6th. NW: has 1 appointee in every 704,000

Once again topping the list of beneficiary is South East with one political appointee for every 400,000 people. As if it is an intentional act, NW, from where the President hails has the least of 1 political appointees for every 704, 000 people while the figure for Osinbajo's Zone is 614,000 and is the least in the South.

THIS IS NOT MY DEFINITION OF "MARGINALIZATION" BEING PEDDLED BY THE IGBOS THAT ARE, IN FACT THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY IN NIGERIA. FIGURES DON'T LIE.

What makes me laugh is when i see some Yoruba crying for the Igbos when the latter talk about Marginalization. They should be crying for themselves.

I don't believe you figures. I have been to Abuja and I didn't see the work force being southern.

Assuming you right....hence this is what we are saying...let the regions have autonomy so that the figures will deplete.

If you have no candidate for the post, than you can get people from Chad and Niger to feel your quota...

Coming to present. Is this why the executive, judiciary and legislature is north? This has never happened before. NSA, FCT, DMI, AGF, SFG, Customs immigration, police, army Navy NCC, NPA, NNPC, EFCC, Prision NDLEA, SEC and almost every head of MDA from the north muslims?

Is it a revenge for what you claimed Objasanjo did?

Is it how you want your one Nigeria to operate?

Is that the change you guys have been shouting about?

Have you seen why there are agitations here and there?

Have you seen why nobody can breath in this country, even you in Katsina?

Nigeria cannot continue like this where the one Nigeria constitution is not followed. It will lead to chaos as we are now seeing.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by slydog(m): 10:00am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
HOW THE SOUTHERN VAMPIRES SUCK THE NORTH DRY
Banks run over a dozen of financial facilities from loans to cash transfer. Each facility generates billions for the bank owners.
Northerners with a population of about 140 million do not own a single bank in Nigeria, except for some tiny community banks.
Daily, about 20 million Northerners do bank transfer through some of the big commercial banks that belong to Southerners and each one of them is now charged 20 naira.
20 × 20 million = 400 million. This is the amount Northerners give to Southerners daily on just a single type of bank transaction out of many. In a month it means 4 billion × 29 = 116000000000 (116.billion). In a year it translates into 116000000000 × 12 = 1392000000000 (1.392 trillion).
1.392 trillion the north is giving to the south every year is enough to:
1- 2,784,000 low cost houses each year at unit cost of 5 million.
or
2- 1,392,000 village schools each year at unit cost of 10 million.
or
3- 13,920 small scale industries each year at unit cost of 100 million.
4- Give 50,000 Naira scholarship to 2,784,000 students yearly.
You can think of other projects the amount Northerners are wasting on the Southerners for a single bank facility called mobile transfer and do the maths.
Now come to think of it how much money move from the North to South for the entire banking services. It is estimated to be over 13 trillion which more than double the entire federal budgetary allocation given to the North.
That is just the banking sector. Similar humongous losses are registered in other sectors such as telecommunications, insurance, education, trade, etc This is not an issue for individuals or groups to tackle. It is a political economic issue calling for political decision and action. It is the core reason the North is economically backward. Northern poverty is a direct result, mainly, of lack control of financial and natural resource. Northerners must call for restructuring for direct control of trade, manufacturing and the service industry. Forget about the false Southern propaganda that Northerners are lazy. Millions of Northerner wake up at 4 am and work their bones tired to 8pm and beyond making very little. Their resources have been taken over and only political action can restore them.
The Southern Nigerians have taken political action to stop herders and Ruga project, they took political action to take over trade by demolishing markets owned by Northerners in the South, they took political action to stunt Northern transport business through officially encouraging violent taut action, they took poitical action to demoralized Northerners via massive media stereotype and false propaganda etc
This is the reason those Southern leeches exploiting the North as bankers, transporters, counterfeit goods traders, school owners, estate prospectors, contractors, kidnapping and terrorist sponsors do not wish to leave the North or have Nigeria broken up as oppose to their ignorant tribesmen agitating for break up. These leeches when they talk about restructuring, they mean more political concession and control is to be given to them to permanently dominate the economic life of Northerners

Bro you can set up a bank if you fill one reason for economic backwardness is lack of northern financial institutions. Minimum capital to set up a bank is N25B
Pls get the license. At least there's Jaiz bank and Unity. Avoid other banks and use Jaiz and unity only.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 10:01am On Sep 27, 2021
slydog:


Beautiful analysis
But like I mentioned earlier, in a competitive system where education and skill rather than quota is to be used as the minimum qualification for employment, I can assure you, the figures for the North will be far less than what you have populated.
How can I proof this?
In systems or private sector where skill and top notch education is the only basis for employment, you will find the Igbos and yorubas getting employed ahead of the Northerners.
So saying that southerners have more in employment in the public sector is not you doing us a favour, the folks down here value education and skills. To the average yoruba man, the only legacy he can give his child is education, not religion. There's a reason the top universities in the country are from the south.
We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at whatever cost. No people has ever prospered when their resources, oppurtunities and chances are blocked and dominated by others.  Our constant preachment of peace must stop: justice and and equity must be our new slagon. 


The real problem is believing in the propaganda of the enemies which saps our resourcefulness and infuse our senses with feelings of backwardness that really do not exist, or are caused by false perception. The greatest defeat one can suffer is to see oneself as projected by one's enemies. 


Almajiri is system suffocated by lack of finance. Poverty is a direct result of economic domination and exclusion. Degrees are not unavailable. Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 10:03am On Sep 27, 2021
slydog:


Bro you can set up a bank if you fill one reason for economic backwardness is lack of northern financial institutions. Minimum capital to set up a bank is N25B
Pls get the license. At least there's Jaiz bank and Unity. Avoid other banks and use Jaiz and unity only.
Try asking for propotionate representation in all government employment in all institutions and at all levels, they will cry out about mediocrity supplanting merit as if those half literates southerners dominating the place are Einstein incanates. Or they will blackmail you with Islamization.


Try treating their traders in our markets as they treat ours and they will cry xenophobia as if the regular denial of market space, heavy taxation, constant disruption of business and officially sanctioned harrassment of our traders in their land does not exist.


Try replacing Southern union leaders and foreign sponsored NGOs operating in the North with our own people and they will start wailing about marginalization.


Well, their era of dominance and false propaganda is coming to an end with the coming of age of young northerners who could no longer accept marginalization because of blackmail or threat. These new bold Northern youth have seen how southerners cowered when asked to leave the North two years ago. Their cries for secession are empty ruse. 


We will be better off without them and they will definitely be worse off without us. They know we lack nothing, while their millions selling substandard, fake good, drugs and inrdinately high interest bank loans fleecing the north and feeding on cheap food and services will have nothing on returning back home. Their franchise firms and industries will lose over 100 million costumers overnight which is more than their home market demand.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Redcrafton: 10:04am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
You know this VAT thing is like a basta*d child confidently demanding for DNA test in protest against sharing the inheritance with another child he or she considers to be undeserving.
If every State stands alone, you will realise that your bragging is on thin air. We have clearly seen that Lagos, Abuja, Rivers, Kano lead the pack.
If we carry out a simple VAT fertility you will see that your State is VAT impotent....and your much touted beer VAT are blank shots....

We say no to alcohol!!!

You say yes to it because you are satanic people...then go ahead and drink


Why must you force it on our lands?


We don't need the money! Yes


Online tribalist haters are just making empty noise here with no knowledge ONLY FIVE STATES CONTRIBUTE 87% OF VAT IN NIGERIA

Lagos state-55%

FCT. -20%

Rivers. - 6%

Kano. -5%

Kaduna. -1%

All you lowly brought up bowl carrying almajiri do is insult people when they are peppering you with facts. I am actually good at insults but I won't go to that level now.

From you conclusion, Kano and Kaduna generate VATS, so why are hurting calling your pa-ents all kinds of names?

We know you don't need the money..

Another taqqiya...see

Nigeria will break up, North will suffer - Sheikh Gumi ...
https://dailypost.ng/2019/08/11/nigeria-will-break-north-will-suffer-sheikh-gumi

11/08/2019 · A prominent Islamic scholar, Dr Ahmad Abubakar Mahmud Gumi, has declared that Nigeria will disintegrate and that the North will suffer most compared to the other regions.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Nobody: 10:04am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
HOW THE SOUTHERN VAMPIRES SUCK THE NORTH DRY
Banks run over a dozen of financial facilities from loans to cash transfer. Each facility generates billions for the bank owners.
Northerners with a population of about 140 million do not own a single bank in Nigeria, except for some tiny community banks.
Daily, about 20 million Northerners do bank transfer through some of the big commercial banks that belong to Southerners and each one of them is now charged 20 naira.
20 × 20 million = 400 million. This is the amount Northerners give to Southerners daily on just a single type of bank transaction out of many. In a month it means 4 billion × 29 = 116000000000 (116.billion). In a year it translates into 116000000000 × 12 = 1392000000000 (1.392 trillion).
1.392 trillion the north is giving to the south every year is enough to:
1- 2,784,000 low cost houses each year at unit cost of 5 million.
or
2- 1,392,000 village schools each year at unit cost of 10 million.
or
3- 13,920 small scale industries each year at unit cost of 100 million.
4- Give 50,000 Naira scholarship to 2,784,000 students yearly.
You can think of other projects the amount Northerners are wasting on the Southerners for a single bank facility called mobile transfer and do the maths.
Now come to think of it how much money move from the North to South for the entire banking services. It is estimated to be over 13 trillion which more than double the entire federal budgetary allocation given to the North.
That is just the banking sector. Similar humongous losses are registered in other sectors such as telecommunications, insurance, education, trade, etc This is not an issue for individuals or groups to tackle. It is a political economic issue calling for political decision and action. It is the core reason the North is economically backward. Northern poverty is a direct result, mainly, of lack control of financial and natural resource. Northerners must call for restructuring for direct control of trade, manufacturing and the service industry. Forget about the false Southern propaganda that Northerners are lazy. Millions of Northerner wake up at 4 am and work their bones tired to 8pm and beyond making very little. Their resources have been taken over and only political action can restore them.
The Southern Nigerians have taken political action to stop herders and Ruga project, they took political action to take over trade by demolishing markets owned by Northerners in the South, they took political action to stunt Northern transport business through officially encouraging violent taut action, they took poitical action to demoralized Northerners via massive media stereotype and false propaganda etc
This is the reason those Southern leeches exploiting the North as bankers, transporters, counterfeit goods traders, school owners, estate prospectors, contractors, kidnapping and terrorist sponsors do not wish to leave the North or have Nigeria broken up as oppose to their ignorant tribesmen agitating for break up. These leeches when they talk about restructuring, they mean more political concession and control is to be given to them to permanently dominate the economic life of Northerners

Nigeria, a third world country in Africa, is known as the poverty capital of the world. The nation just exceeded India with the largest rate of people living in extreme poverty. In Nigeria, about 86.9 million people live in severe poverty, which is about 50% of its entire population. While the nation is smaller both geographically and in terms of population, it is failing at lowering the rates of poverty. This is partly due to the mismanagement of the oil business and the presence of corruption. Along with this, the nation is going through a “population boom,” which will make managing poverty rates more difficult. One of the U.N.’s Sustainable Development Goals is to end extreme poverty by 2050. However, Nigeria’s poverty rates are currently going in the wrong direction.
Top Reasons for Poverty in Nigeria
While Nigeria is known for its oil riches, the reality of the nation is that corruption, unemployment and inequalities have destroyed the nation’s economic framework, causing it to be the poverty capital of the world.
Corruption: Corruption is the major reason why poverty is at such a high rate in Nigeria. In fact, many economist have declared that it is the “single greatest obstacle” that prevents Nigeria from prospering. Corruption is present in the everyday lives of citizens from businesses to the government. Consequently, poorer communities are suffering and the economic structure has experienced disruption.
Unemployment: The high rates of unemployment also lead to extreme poverty. Unemployment typically exists among the younger population. In fact, only about 44.6% of young people have employment, leaving more than half of the population is unemployed. A major cause of unemployment is the fact that people tend to focus more on oil production rather than a variety of other industries. Not only does the country suffer from a lack of employment but it also suffers from a lack of development, progress and diversification of its industries.
Inequality: Along with corruption and unemployment, another major driver of poverty in Nigeria is the presence of inequality within the nation. Nigerian women are subject to unequal treatment in terms of labor, education and property. While about 79% of women make up the rural labor force, they are the least likely to own their own property. Along with this, only about 6% of Nigerian women have achieved literacy, the rest are still illiterate. Inequalities in Nigeria are a result of poorly allocated resources and corruption. While Nigeria has plenty of resources, these resources are typically reserved for the wealthy who can afford them. Along with this, corruption within the government leads to further inequalities between the political elite and to those living in poverty.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by slydog(m): 10:11am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
Try asking for propotionate representation in all government employment in all institutions and at all levels, they will cry out about mediocrity supplanting merit as if those half literates southerners dominating the place are Einstein incanates. Or they will blackmail you with Islamization.


Try treating their traders in our markets as they treat ours and they will cry xenophobia as if the regular denial of market space, heavy taxation, constant disruption of business and officially sanctioned harrassment of our traders in their land does not exist.


Try replacing Southern union leaders and foreign sponsored NGOs operating in the North with our own people and they will start wailing about marginalization.


Well, their era of dominance and false propaganda is coming to an end with the coming of age of young northerners who could no longer accept marginalization because of blackmail or threat. These new bold Northern youth have seen how southerners cowered when asked to leave the North two years ago. Their cries for secession are empty ruse. 


We will be better off without them and they will definitely be worse off without us. They know we lack nothing, while their millions selling substandard, fake good, drugs and inrdinately high interest bank loans fleecing the north and feeding on cheap food and services will have nothing on returning back home. Their franchise firms and industries will lose over 100 million costumers overnight which is more than their home market demand. 

Competence trumps quota/proportionate representation everywhere in the world.

This young Northern youths should fight for true federalism or division as a last resort.
The Northerners will benefit from it immensely pls.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 10:13am On Sep 27, 2021
slydog:


Competence trumps quota/proportionate representation everywhere in the world.

This young Northern youths should fight for true federalism or division as a last resort.
The Northerners will benefit from it immensely pls.
The problem with southerners is that they are brainwashed and programmed into accepting the new word into their dictionary and applying it to every Northerner...

The problem is if you ask most of them the meaning of quota system, they don't even know it. They are just saying it because that is one of the things they were made to believe.

They're the victims of what Chimamanda Adichie called "Single Story" They're fed up with the story of negatives.

Fiscal federalism or true federalism (which means regionalism), control of resources in your region, etc., Like weak centre and active region, I swear to God, these aren't idea that people squeezed from thin air.
These were ideas propagated from the works and ideas of Muslim politicians of the north before independence. (Just pick the book, my life by Sardauna Ahmadu Bello, and open the various debates in central legislative council from the Richard Governor general time, focussing more on macpherson time of 1956).
The ideas I mentioned were never gotten from awolowo, it was never gotten from azikiwe. It was gotten from Sardauna. Yes, Ahmadu Bello and his fellow intellectuals invented these ideas to protect the north. But Christian politicians in the south kept fighting it because they felt Nigeria is in their favour.
Eventually, they won, and Allah granted the muslim North victory with what they lost. The Christian south are now complaining.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by JOemmy(m): 10:14am On Sep 27, 2021
The parasites will definitely oppose the southern governors position.
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by slydog(m): 10:16am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at whatever cost. No people has ever prospered when their resources, oppurtunities and chances are blocked and dominated by others.  Our constant preachment of peace must stop: justice and and equity must be our new slagon. 


The real problem is believing in the propaganda of the enemies which saps our resourcefulness and infuse our senses with feelings of backwardness that really do not exist, or are caused by false perception. The greatest defeat one can suffer is to see oneself as projected by one's enemies. 


Almajiri is system suffocated by lack of finance. Poverty is a direct result of economic domination and exclusion. Degrees are not unavailable. Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.


Lol, "We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at WHATEVER COST"

What are these "YOUR RESOURCES"?

By all means, keep marrying 4 wives bro. If possible increase it to 5 or 6

We support you.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by Ibkhaleel: 10:21am On Sep 27, 2021
slydog:


Lol, "We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at WHATEVER COST"

What are these "YOUR RESOURCES"?

By all means, keep marrying 4 wives bro. If possible increase it to 5 or 6

We support you.
The North is the single largest supplier of raw materials in all Nigerian industries, from food through agriculture and cloths to shelter through cements and other building materials available in the Northern rocks, including iron ores and ceramics.
The North have Gold, Diamond, Tin, copper, gypsum, coal, magnesium, etc and even uranium all over the area.

A liter of groundnut/cotton oil is more expensive than a liter of oil, and it has long industrial chain value , from pharmaceuticals, detergents etc.

The cows that some few people condemn is over 20M in number in Nigeria, when properly harnessed and utilize, if a quarter of this number can produce a liter of milk a day, it means the North will have 5M liters of milk per day, each liter is N350, much more that a liter of fuel.

Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles.


Dantata was the richest Man in Africa and was the grandfather of Todays Aliko Dangote Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by mamaafrik(m): 10:37am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
Only Northerners truly believe Nigeria is one. The facts speak for themselves:
Go to Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria,Kadpoly Kaduna, Bayero University, Kano, University of Maiduguri, Federal University Dutsinma, Katsina, and other Federal and state government higher institutions in the North, you will see Yorubas, Igbos, and other tribes from the South and East as Deans of Faculties, HODs of Departments, Registrars, DVCs, Exams Officers, etc. And thousands of Southerners are studying there as students in different Departments.
But try and visit University of Nigeria Nsuka, and University of Ibadan and other Universities in either the South or the East. You will never see Hausas or Fulani as staff or student there in. In fact, you have to hide to pray in those mentioned places. We employ them and give admissions to their children, but they reject us in total. Indeed, Only the Northerners consider Nigeria as one.
In fact, I know many Senators and House of Reps here in the North, especially in Kano state who share Federal and state government appointments with Igbos and Yorubas living in their constituencies. Only northerners consider Nigeria as one.
You hardly see a Local Government in the North without a Church. You have the right to build your worship centres anywhere in the North. We give you land to build your houses and Churches. You observe your religion without any molestation. You dress the way you want. We buy from you, and we sell to you, this happen only in the North.
In return, what we get from them is genocide, molestation, and total rejection. We accommodate them here in the north, they pusue us out of their regions.
LOKACI YAYI KOWA YA AMSA SUNAN UBANSHI
learn to speak Intelligently,go to Europe,america and Africa and tell us the representation of Northerners(muslim especially) in their academic and commercial world compared to the south.
Look at private sponsored scholarships etc and judge.
Are those ones partial too,hypocrite you are like you people,you are of less value intellectually and economically.
Your people can't match their fellows counterparts in the South in academics,sport,entertainment,business and industrial sector.

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Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by mamaafrik(m): 10:39am On Sep 27, 2021
Ibkhaleel:
Hmmmm! Fact!
show us the author and let us see if it is not one dan Fulanis
Re: Northern Governors Meet On VAT Today, SANs Berate Malami by wizelink(m): 10:42am On Sep 27, 2021
It's a pity
Ibkhaleel:
[s][/s] what is taqiya and what is the correlation with the facts i mentioned?


Christianity is dying out already

The whole xtianity is a joke

Been a Christian is nothing more than advertising that you are a loser!

A religion of gay pope, gay Jesus gay pastors, satanic churches etc

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