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Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Racoon(m): 3:21am On Oct 10, 2021
By Farooq A. Kperogi
Twitter: @farooqkperogi

The past few months have ignited impassioned and frenzied political brickbats between the elites of the South and those of the Muslim North. Plus, over the years, the differences between the people of the regions are often magnified and their similarities papered over. In today’s column, I show how this is all elite manipulation.

Centuries before colonialism and the British-supervised formation of Nigeria, much of what we know today as northern and western Nigeria have had robust relational and cultural encounters, evidence of which still endures in the contemporary linguistic and cultural artifacts of the people.

The centuries-long Trans-Saharan Trade between the Arab world and so-called Sub-Saharan Africa, which passed through much of what is now northern and western Nigeria between the eight and seventeenth centuries, brought traces of Islam and cultural interchanges in both places. 

Thereafter, both regions witnessed massive migrations of the Mandinka people from the Mali empire who brought more concentrated expressions of Islam and monarchies. That is why much of what used to be the Oyo empire was actually ethnically syncretic. Take northern Oyo, called Oke-Ogun in Yorubaland, for example. Several of the towns and villages there were founded by people from Borgu who themselves trace their ancestry to Mali.

For instance, Ogbomoso, a major Oyo town, was founded by a Baatonu (Bariba) prince. The title of the town’s monarch, “Soun,” is a corruption of “Suno,” the Baatonu word for king. Kishi, another major town in Oke-Ogun, was founded by a Baatonu prince by the name of Kilishi Yeruma. Kilishi is the Hausa word for rug (which symbolizes the throne) and Yeruma is the corruption of the Kanuri “yerima,” which means prince. But “Kilishi Yeruma” is a fossilized, time-honored title in all of Borgu, which is a cultural melting pot, for the heir apparent to the throne.

Even the town of Igboho whose son, Sunday Igboho, has become the symbol of “Oduduwa republic,” is ethnically syncretic. Apart from the large number of Fulani people in and around the town who have lived there for centuries, some of whom have become culturally and linguistically Yoruba, there is a major neighborhood there that is called Boni.

Boni is the generic Borgu birth-order name for the fourth son. That is why many Igboho people embrace me as their brother when they find out where I am from even though I don’t speak Yoruba well enough to sustain a conversation in it.

Historical accounts also reveal that during the Trans-Saharan Trade, many Hausa people worked as intermediaries between Arab traders and the Alaafin of Oyo. Most didn’t return to their places of birth, and their descendants are now Yoruba people.

Similarly, we read from the late Professor Abdullahi Smith’s account of the tiff between Afonja and the Alaafin of Oyo that a large chunk of Afonja’s army, called the Jama’a, was drawn from Hausa slaves who escaped from the Alaafin’s palace.

And the Fulani presence in Yoruba land preceded the coming of Mu’alim “Alimi” Salihu to Ilorin by several decades, perhaps centuries. As I pointed out in a past column titled “Ilorin is an Ethnogenesis: Response to Kawu’s Anti-Saraki Ilorin Purism,” some of Afonja’s followers, with whom he fought the Alaafin, according to Abdullahi Smith who quoted the Ta’alif, a pamphlet written in Arabic by an Ilorin Yoruba Muslim cleric about the events of the time at the time they occurred, were Fulani pastoralists who were never Muslims. 

The pastoralists had lost their cattle to tsetse fly bites and “had nothing to lose,” according to Smith, so they became Afonja’s mercenaries. One of the Fulani pastoralists whom Alimi couldn’t convert to Islam, was a man named Ibrahim Olufade who spoke perfect Yoruba and Fulfulde and acted as the interpreter for Afonja in his initial interactions with Alimi. 

In other words, Fulani people had been bearing Yoruba names in Yorubaland at least a century before Nigeria was formed. I won’t be surprised if descendants of Ibrahim Olufade are now Yoruba (nationalists) if they are in western Nigeria.

My hunch has some basis in real-life examples. One of northern Nigeria’s most celebrated journalists, the late Hajia Bilikisu Yusuf, was descended from Yoruba people who migrated to Kano generations ago. She was one of the most passionate defenders of Arewa that I know.

When the late Mohammed Sule, author of the famous The Undesirable Element in the Pacesetter Series, told me of Hajia Bilikisu’s Yoruba background in Kaduna in the late 1990s, I was incredulous. But he said they were neighbors in Kano and swore that Hajia Bilikisu’s grandfather still spoke Yoruba.

The ancestors of the late Professor Ibrahim Ayagi of Kano were Yoruba. As he himself told the Daily Trust on September 2, 2018, “Unguwar Ayagi was initially inhabited by the Yoruba and Nupawa, who came from outside and settled here. That’s how the place became known as Ayagi. So most of the people in Ayagi are Yoruba, Nupe and, of course, Hausa.”

In fact, a one-time civilian governor of old Sokoto State (i.e., present-day Sokoto, Zamfara, and Kebbi states) traces his ancestry to a Yoruba man. And he governed the heart of the caliphate. 

Given this depth and breadth of relational interconnectedness, it is no surprise that northern and western Nigeria share an extensive repertoire of cultural vocabularies that are derived from Arabic, Songhai (because the Malians who brought Islam to Hausa land, Borgu, and Yorubaland abandoned their language and spoke a dialect of Songhai called Dendi), and mutual borrowings. 

I will give a few examples. In both Yoruba land and Borgu, the term from an unmarried girl is some version of the word “wondia.” That’s a Songhai word for an unmarried girl. “Bere,” a title of respect prefixed to the names of older people in Borgu and parts of Yoruba land, is a Songhai word. The word “karambani,” which I was shocked to find out occurs in Yoruba, is a Songhai word that is now integral to the lexis of many languages in Borgu.

Asiri, the word for secret in Hausa, Yoruba, Kanuri, Baatonu, and many other languages in Muslim northern Nigeria, is derived from the Arabic “as-sirr” where it also means “secret.” Wahala, which used to be limited to Yoruba and languages in Muslim northern Nigeria but which is now widely used all over Nigeria, is derived from the Arabic “wahla,” which means “fright,” “terror.”

Yoruba and most languages in Muslim northern Nigeria also use “talaka” (talika in Yoruba) to refer to the poor. The word also appears in Mandinka, Songhai languages, Teda, and in other West African polities where Islam is predominant.

Talaka is derived from “talaq,” the Arabic word for divorce. (The chapter of the Qur'an that deals with the subject of divorce is called Suratul Talaq). Talaq is derived from the verb “talaqa,” which means to “disown,” to “repudiate.” In times past (and it’s still the case today in many Muslim societies) if a woman was divorced, she was invariably thrown into poverty. Thus, Tuaregs used the term “taleqque” to denote a “poor woman.” But Hausa, Kanuri, Yoruba, Mandinka, and other West African languages expanded the original Tuareg meaning of the word to include every poor person.

And although the term “alufa/alfa” has now been replaced by “malam” in Hausa, it is still widely used in Yoruba and other languages in Muslim northern Nigeria and owes etymological debt to the Mandinka. It denotes a Muslim scholar but has evolved to other meanings in the languages that use it. It can be a synonym for Muslim in Baatonu and a husband among Yoruba Muslim women. 

It is derived from the Arabic “khalifah,” which means a “successor” or a “representative” (of the prophet of Islam). It was first corrupted to “Alfa” by the Songhai-speaking Mandinka from Mali who later exported their version of the word to western and central Nigeria—and to other parts of West Africa.

The ever-present “lafia/alafia/lapia” that dots the lexis and structure of Yoruba and many languages in Muslim northern Nigeria is derived from the Arabic "afiya," which means "health." And “alubosa,” the Yoruba word for “onion,” was borrowed from the Hausa “albasa,” which Hausa itself borrowed from the Arabic “al-basal.”

There are also direct borrowings from the native vocabularies of Yoruba and Arewa languages. To give a few examples, the Yoruba “lakaye” is derived from the Hausa “la’akari.” Seriki, which is even a personal name in Yoruba land, and which often collocates with titles, is borrowed from the Hausa “sarki,” which means king.

 Jaara in Yoruba (which has spread to other Nigerian languages, including Pidgin English, where it means a courtesy addition after a purchase) is a loan from the Hausa gyara. Pali in Yoruba is kwali in Hausa.

In a conversation with Dr. Muhammad Shakir Balogun, a polymathic epidemiologist at ABU whose parents are from Offa but who was born and raised in Kano, I also learned that many everyday words in Hausa are borrowed from Yoruba. The examples he gave include ashana [asana], akwatu [apoti], alaakun [alakun], kwana-kwana [pano-pano], gwale-gwale [gbale-gbale], tale-tale [tele-tele], agwaluma [agbalumo], saukale [sokale], awara [wara], atarugu [atarodo], teba [eba], alabo [elubo], ayoyo, agushi [egusi], alala [olele], agogo, keke, kia-kia.

Of course, sharing cultural and linguistic similarities is not a necessary and sufficient condition to unite, but it’s a good starting point. It also helps to remember that while we are different in many ways, we are also more alike than the elites want us to acknowledge. 

https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2021/10/arewa-and-oduduwa-more-alike-than-unlike.html?m=1

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 3:25am On Oct 10, 2021
Lol....this confused social political climber.

The article is full of sophistry, falsehoods and fallacies sprinkled with half truths, sentiments and biases targeted majorly at diluting the indigineous people of Yorubaland while tactically not talking about the ethnic syncretic of the north. Yoruba's and northerners have absolutely nothing in common. From our ideologies and attitudes to life there's a big difference between both people.

We Yoruba's aren't known for religious extremism or terrorism.

Yorubas are largely progressive and socialist liberals. Hausa/fulani are largely retrogressive and conservative extremists.

Yorubas believe in orderliness and don't subscribe to grazing cattle openly destroying people's property.

Yoruba's live in cities and villages like normal human beings. Fulani lives in the forest reserves like wild animals with their cattle.

Yoruba's don't subscribe to oppressing our women or girl children, women in Yorubaland are given equal freedom and opportunities as men(too much freedom in some cases) and we also don't subscribe to child marriages.

Yorubas rich and poor believes alot in education and it's ability to advance societies. Hausa/fulani believe that western education is Haram.

We Yoruba's don't pardon yahoo boy's, terrorists, militants or bandits. Hausa/fulani believes that terrorists are humans like us and should be pardoned and reintegrated back into society.

We believe in freedom of expression; it's why bobrisky is still walking freely in Lagos. Northerners believe in breaking beer bottles and banning mannequins because it is Haram.

We produce Noble laureates, tech Titans, globally recognized scientists, athletes, execs and self made business people. The north produces military men, presidents with school cert results and a large voting population.

There might have been intermarriages and inter relations with neighboring Northern tribes but hausa/fulani are never one or the same people.

Lastly what really makes a person Yoruba apart from his paternal genes is his embodiment of qualities known to Yoruba's and the tribal loyalty you have towards Yoruba, it's people and it's interests, if you find yourself scheming against or working against Yoruba interest it's most likely that you're not Yoruba but either an imposter or a bastard. Yoruba isn't just an ethnic group but a religion, a state of mind and an ideology

Farooq A. Kperogi like most non Yoruba's are quick to talk about Yoruba history trying to delegitimize the rights of indigineous Yoruba people and pushing silly narratives and agendas but would hardly talk like this about their regions or tribes..... ibadan men like me will see straight right through your bvllshit Mr Kperogi.

No bad blood with Northern people but it's an insult to say yorubas and fulanis are alike. It gets me really triggered.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Shawnnn01: 3:28am On Oct 10, 2021

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Racoon(m): 3:32am On Oct 10, 2021
There are indeed a lots of mutualistic intersections. No wonder the marriage of convenience.Meanwhile, it should be enjoyed by all while it lasts.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Coldshisha: 3:44am On Oct 10, 2021
cool



This is ordinary common sense that doesn't need research

Due to geographical proximity , Dahomey (Benin Republic, Togo), Hausa (NorthWest , North Central), Nupe , BIni, Edo , Istekiri (Midwest) and Middle belt (Gwari, Baji) close to Kogi are our cousins in Yorubaland


In reality due to river Niger and huge gap, Yoruba and Ibos share absolutely nothing together


.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by goatandyam: 3:49am On Oct 10, 2021
Nonsense story written by another closet Muslim terrorist masquerading as liberal.

Won't be surprised if this cow is the formal nairaland epistle terrorist called Gbawe

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by madridguy(m): 4:13am On Oct 10, 2021
Nice writeup.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by onumadu: 5:23am On Oct 10, 2021
Coldshisha:
cool



This is ordinary common sense that doesn't need research

Due to geographical proximity , Dahomey (Benin Republic, Togo), Hausa (NorthWest , North Central), Nupe , BIni, Edo , Istekiri (Midwest) and Middle belt (Gwari, Baji) close to Kogi are our cousin


In reality due to river Niger and huge gap, Yoruba and Ibos share absolutely nothing together


.

I agree, too.

The Yoruba share far more with Hausa/Fulani than with Igbo, and this fact is clearly visible to any careful observer.

That fact has consistently reflected in the politics of Nigeria such that one cannot reasonably see any future Yoruba country without the Hausa/Fulani in it.

This is reality.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by onumadu: 5:27am On Oct 10, 2021
Even the town of Igboho whose son, Sunday Igboho, has become the symbol of “Oduduwa republic,” is ethnically syncretic. Apart from the large number of Fulani people in and around the town who have lived there for centuries, some of whom have become culturally and linguistically Yoruba, there is a major neighborhood there that is called Boni.

Boni is the generic Borgu birth-order name for the fourth son. That is why many Igboho people embrace me as their brother when they find out where I am from even though I don’t speak Yoruba well enough to sustain a conversation in it.

Historical accounts also reveal that during the Trans-Saharan Trade, many Hausa people worked as intermediaries between Arab traders and the Alaafin of Oyo. Most didn’t return to their places of birth, and their descendants are now Yoruba people.

Similarly, we read from the late Professor Abdullahi Smith’s account of the tiff between Afonja and the Alaafin of Oyo that a large chunk of Afonja’s army, called the Jama’a, was drawn from Hausa slaves who escaped from the Alaafin’s palace.

And the Fulani presence in Yoruba land preceded the coming of Mu’alim “Alimi” Salihu to Ilorin by several decades, perhaps centuries. As I pointed out in a past column titled “Ilorin is an Ethnogenesis: Response to Kawu’s Anti-Saraki Ilorin Purism,” some of Afonja’s followers, with whom he fought the Alaafin, according to Abdullahi Smith who quoted the Ta’alif, a pamphlet written in Arabic by an Ilorin Yoruba Muslim cleric about the events of the time at the time they occurred, were Fulani pastoralists who were never Muslims.

The pastoralists had lost their cattle to tsetse fly bites and “had nothing to lose,” according to Smith, so they became Afonja’s mercenaries. One of the Fulani pastoralists whom Alimi couldn’t convert to Islam, was a man named Ibrahim Olufade who spoke perfect Yoruba and Fulfulde and acted as the interpreter for Afonja in his initial interactions with Alimi.

Okay, just consider these historical facts.
How can you uproot those Fulani who have been there for centuries?
I mean, lets be real.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by AGNESikpuNNU(f): 5:37am On Oct 10, 2021
WesternOligarch:
Lol....this confused social political climber.

The article is full of sophistry, falsehoods and fallacies sprinkled with half truths, sentiments and biases targeted majorly at diluting the indigineous people of Yorubaland while tactically not talking about the ethnic syncretic of the north. Yoruba's and northerners have absolutely nothing in common. From our ideologies and attitudes to life there's a big difference between both people.

We Yoruba's aren't known for religious extremism or terrorism.

Yorubas are largely progressive and socialist liberals. Hausa/fulani are largely retrogressive and conservative extremists.

Yorubas believe in orderliness and don't subscribe to grazing cattle openly destroying people's property.

Yoruba's live in cities and villages like normal human beings. Fulani lives in the forest reserves like wild animals with their cattle.

Yoruba's don't subscribe to oppressing our women or girl children, women in Yorubaland are given equal freedom and opportunities as men(too much freedom in some cases) and we also don't subscribe to child marriages.

Yorubas rich and poor believes alot in education and it's ability to advance societies. Hausa/fulani believe that western education is Haram.

We Yoruba's don't pardon yahoo boy's, terrorists, militants or bandits. Hausa/fulani believes that terrorists are humans like us and should be pardoned and reintegrated back into society.

We believe in freedom of expression; it's why bobrisky is still walking freely in Lagos. Northerners believe in breaking beer bottles and banning mannequins because it is Haram.

We produce Noble laureates, tech Titans, globally recognized scientists, athletes, execs and self made business people. The north produces military men, presidents with school cert results and a large voting population.

There might have been intermarriages and inter relations with neighboring Northern tribes but hausa/fulani are never one or the same people.

Lastly what really makes a person Yoruba apart from his paternal genes is his embodiment of qualities known to Yoruba's and the tribal loyalty you have towards Yoruba, it's people and it's interests, if you find yourself scheming against or working against Yoruba interest it's most likely that you're not Yoruba but either an imposter or a bastard. Yoruba isn't just an ethnic group but a religion, a state of mind and an ideology

Farooq A. Kperogi like most non Yoruba's are quick to talk about Yoruba history trying to delegitimize the rights of indigineous Yoruba people and pushing silly narratives and agendas but would hardly talk like this about their regions or tribes..... ibadan men like me will see straight right through your bvllshit Mr Kperogi.

No bad blood with Northern people but it's an insult to say yorubas and fulanis are alike. It gets me really triggered.
Na your papa born you

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Tomek09(m): 5:47am On Oct 10, 2021
Very nice, educating and interesting write-up.

Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis have/share many things in common.

No wonder Tinubu confirmed the assertion when he visited Kano which is an Hausa-Fulani dominated State.

YORULANI IS REAL.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by illicit(m): 6:07am On Oct 10, 2021
Coldshisha:
cool



This is ordinary common sense that doesn't need research

Due to geographical proximity , Dahomey (Benin Republic, Togo), Hausa (NorthWest , North Central), Nupe , BIni, Edo , Istekiri (Midwest) and Middle belt (Gwari, Baji) close to Kogi are our cousins in Yorubaland


In reality due to river Niger and huge gap, Yoruba and Ibos share absolutely nothing together


.

Actually, Yoruba and Igbo languages are in the same group, they are tonal languages and might have been one in the past or descended from a common ancestor

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by helinues: 6:08am On Oct 10, 2021
Here we go again with another epistle from Professor in controversy

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Coldshisha: 6:13am On Oct 10, 2021
illicit:


Actually, Yoruba and Igbo languages are in the same group, they are tonal languages and might have been one in the past or descended from a common ancestor

Yes Naija - Congo Language source like Yoruba, Igbo, Fula, Shona, Sesotho and Zulu

The that's why we all use Baba, papa , mama

Ase!! Ise!!

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Sammy07: 6:53am On Oct 10, 2021
WesternOligarch:
Lol....this confused social political climber.

The article is full of sophistry, falsehoods and fallacies sprinkled with half truths, sentiments and biases targeted majorly at diluting the indigineous people of Yorubaland while tactically not talking about the ethnic syncretic of the north. Yoruba's and northerners have absolutely nothing in common. From our ideologies and attitudes to life there's a big difference between both people.

We Yoruba's aren't known for religious extremism or terrorism.

Yorubas are largely progressive and socialist liberals. Hausa/fulani are largely retrogressive and conservative extremists.

Yorubas believe in orderliness and don't subscribe to grazing cattle openly destroying people's property.

Yoruba's live in cities and villages like normal human beings. Fulani lives in the forest reserves like wild animals with their cattle.

Yoruba's don't subscribe to oppressing our women or girl children, women in Yorubaland are given equal freedom and opportunities as men(too much freedom in some cases) and we also don't subscribe to child marriages.

Yorubas rich and poor believes alot in education and it's ability to advance societies. Hausa/fulani believe that western education is Haram.

We Yoruba's don't pardon yahoo boy's, terrorists, militants or bandits. Hausa/fulani believes that terrorists are humans like us and should be pardoned and reintegrated back into society.

We believe in freedom of expression; it's why bobrisky is still walking freely in Lagos. Northerners believe in breaking beer bottles and banning mannequins because it is Haram.

We produce Noble laureates, tech Titans, globally recognized scientists, athletes, execs and self made business people. The north produces military men, presidents with school cert results and a large voting population.

There might have been intermarriages and inter relations with neighboring Northern tribes but hausa/fulani are never one or the same people.

Lastly what really makes a person Yoruba apart from his paternal genes is his embodiment of qualities known to Yoruba's and the tribal loyalty you have towards Yoruba, it's people and it's interests, if you find yourself scheming against or working against Yoruba interest it's most likely that you're not Yoruba but either an imposter or a bastard. Yoruba isn't just an ethnic group but a religion, a state of mind and an ideology

Farooq A. Kperogi like most non Yoruba's are quick to talk about Yoruba history trying to delegitimize the rights of indigineous Yoruba people and pushing silly narratives and agendas but would hardly talk like this about their regions or tribes..... ibadan men like me will see straight right through your bvllshit Mr Kperogi.

No bad blood with Northern people but it's an insult to say yorubas and fulanis are alike. It gets me really triggered.


Very Accurate!

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 6:58am On Oct 10, 2021
Coldshisha:
cool
This is ordinary common sense that doesn't need research
Due to geographical proximity , Dahomey (Benin Republic, Togo), Hausa (NorthWest , North Central), Nupe , BIni, Edo , Istekiri (Midwest) and Middle belt (Gwari, Baji) close to Kogi are our cousins in Yorubaland
In reality due to river Niger and huge gap, Yoruba and Ibos share absolutely nothing together
.
onumadu:

I agree, too.
The Yoruba share far more with Hausa/Fulani than with Igbo, and this fact is clearly visible to any careful observer.
That fact has consistently reflected in the politics of Nigeria such that one cannot reasonably see any future Yoruba country without the Hausa/Fulani in it.
This is reality.

We don't have anything in common with Almajiris. Take note.

Even Yoruba Muslims are far different from Northern Muslims.

Stop forcefully associating Almajiris with Yoruba tribe

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Haywhysat: 7:19am On Oct 10, 2021
Most of these stories are not real. It's obvious the writer is high on something.

Cc: Tao11 Tao12

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by SlayerForever: 7:50am On Oct 10, 2021
I always tell anybody who cares to listen that Hausa and Yoruba people are the same! I have looked at them and seen their close similarities in behaviour and thinking. They are the same! After staying in the North and I came to the West and heard Lafia in Yoruba greeting I just knew the two people are the same thing from that moment onwards. Kperoogi here proves me right.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 7:52am On Oct 10, 2021
Coldshisha:


Yes Naija - Congo Language source like Yoruba, Igbo, Fula, Shona, Sesotho and Zulu

The that's why we all use Baba, papa , mama

Ase!! Ise!!

Fula, as in Fulfulde as spoken by the Fulani? I thought it was Afro Asiatic in origin?
Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by SlayerForever: 7:57am On Oct 10, 2021
Lalasticlala.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by alanto: 7:59am On Oct 10, 2021
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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by AfricanColumbus: 8:00am On Oct 10, 2021
Reserved.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 8:02am On Oct 10, 2021
Hausa sees Yoruba as brother and friend. Hausa prefer to work with Yoruba than the third one. Relationship with Hausa is more useful to Yoruba than Ibos.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by alanto: 8:02am On Oct 10, 2021
WesternOligarch:
Lol....this confused social political climber.

The article is full of sophistry, falsehoods and fallacies sprinkled with half truths, sentiments and biases targeted majorly at diluting the indigineous people of Yorubaland while tactically not talking about the ethnic syncretic of the north. Yoruba's and northerners have absolutely nothing in common. From our ideologies and attitudes to life there's a big difference between both people.

We Yoruba's aren't known for religious extremism or terrorism.

Yorubas are largely progressive and socialist liberals. Hausa/fulani are largely retrogressive and conservative extremists.

Yorubas believe in orderliness and don't subscribe to grazing cattle openly destroying people's property.

Yoruba's live in cities and villages like normal human beings. Fulani lives in the forest reserves like wild animals with their cattle.

Yoruba's don't subscribe to oppressing our women or girl children, women in Yorubaland are given equal freedom and opportunities as men(too much freedom in some cases) and we also don't subscribe to child marriages.

Yorubas rich and poor believes alot in education and it's ability to advance societies. Hausa/fulani believe that western education is Haram.

We Yoruba's don't pardon yahoo boy's, terrorists, militants or bandits. Hausa/fulani believes that terrorists are humans like us and should be pardoned and reintegrated back into society.

We believe in freedom of expression; it's why bobrisky is still walking freely in Lagos. Northerners believe in breaking beer bottles and banning mannequins because it is Haram.

We produce Noble laureates, tech Titans, globally recognized scientists, athletes, execs and self made business people. The north produces military men, presidents with school cert results and a large voting population.

There might have been intermarriages and inter relations with neighboring Northern tribes but hausa/fulani are never one or the same people.

Lastly what really makes a person Yoruba apart from his paternal genes is his embodiment of qualities known to Yoruba's and the tribal loyalty you have towards Yoruba, it's people and it's interests, if you find yourself scheming against or working against Yoruba interest it's most likely that you're not Yoruba but either an imposter or a bastard. Yoruba isn't just an ethnic group but a religion, a state of mind and an ideology

Farooq A. Kperogi like most non Yoruba's are quick to talk about Yoruba history trying to delegitimize the rights of indigineous Yoruba people and pushing silly narratives and agendas but would hardly talk like this about their regions or tribes..... ibadan men like me will see straight right through your bvllshit Mr Kperogi.

No bad blood with Northern people but it's an insult to say yorubas and fulanis are alike. It gets me really triggered.
He’s not saying that we have traits in common. What he is saying is the West and the North have been in contact for long and there are evidence left behind. It doesn’t mean anything. There are evidence that the white were here doesn’t mean we possess them or they possess us, evidently blacks have been in America a long time. That’s what I think he’s trying to say.
It’s possible to say the East and the North don’t share enough in common to say they’ve been in contact for long. An example of what he’s trying to say is. How Igbos call the whole of Yoruba Afonja on nairaland when Afonja is only a citizen of Kwara State. The story of Afonja is a proof of contact between the West and the North before the brits.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 8:15am On Oct 10, 2021
alanto:

He’s not saying that we have traits in common. What he is saying is the West and the North have been in contact for long and there are evidence left behind. It doesn’t mean anything. There are evidence that the white were here doesn’t mean we possess them or they possess us, evidently blacks have been in America a long time. That’s what I think he’s trying to say.
It’s possible to say the East and the North don’t share enough in common to say they’ve been in contact for long. An example of what he’s trying to say is. How Igbos call the whole of Yoruba Afonja on nairaland when Afonja is only a citizen of Kwara State. The story of Afonja is a proof of contact between the West and the North before the brits.

You didn't read the article and the political connotations in it. I can't argue.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 8:19am On Oct 10, 2021
Coldshisha:
cool



This is ordinary common sense that doesn't need research

Due to geographical proximity , Dahomey (Benin Republic, Togo), Hausa (NorthWest , North Central), Nupe , BIni, Edo , Istekiri (Midwest) and Middle belt (Gwari, Baji) close to Kogi are our cousins in Yorubaland


In reality due to river Niger and huge gap, Yoruba and Ibos share absolutely nothing together


.

Absolute nothing, what pain me is dat Yoruba will leave these cousins to force friendship with ibo they share nothing with.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by ayzTIGER: 8:20am On Oct 10, 2021
When you see their black dotted foreheads you can't tell them apart.

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by Nobody: 8:25am On Oct 10, 2021
illicit:


Actually, Yoruba and Igbo languages are in the same group, they are tonal languages and might have been one in the past or descended from a common ancestor

No they are not from common ancestor. Igbo likely migrated from Kongo or Cameroon. Their attire (leaves and grasses) oftentimes not distinguishable from tribes in Central Africa.

The reason we share some language together is that igbo are gatherer, they quickly gather other tribe culture and language and adapt to it fast

Yoruba language is a contagious language, very popular in all of Southern Nigeria, the igala and itsekiri introduced Yoruba language to Ibos. Igala through enugu and Anambra then spread to other Ibo clans, the Itsekiri also.

We share nothing in common except civilising you ancestors

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Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by ayzTIGER: 8:27am On Oct 10, 2021
SlyDev:


Absolute nothing, what pain me is dat Yoruba will leave these cousins to force friendship with ibo they share nothing with.
who doesn't force friendship or like to associate with someone better than him. If it pains you that much then support Biafra because are also tired of the forced friendship

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