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New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by ektbear: 10:11am On Jun 01, 2011
The new electricity tariffs for the country, currently being consulted on, are to come into effect on the first day of January 2012, Chairman of the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC) Sam Amadi has said.

The new tariffs were formerly to be announced in June this year following the working out of all parameters associated with generation, transmission and distribution; however, Amadi, making this disclosure Tuesday at a stakeholder consultation workshop in Abuja on the major review of the Multi-Year Tariff Order (MYTO) noted that President Goodluck Jonathan had granted approval for a 2012 implementation to enable further stakeholder consultations.

He said that the Commission was sparing no effort in verifying data supplied by operators to ensure final tariff is fair to all stakeholders, “In this vein, operators will be required to defend the veracity of data submitted. In this way the Commission will promote transparency in the tariff determination process,” the Chairman explained.

Amadi said, “In recognition of the enormous challenge and in furtherance to his commitment to address the challenge of power supply in the country, President Goodluck Jonathan has granted approval that the revised electricity tariffs we expect to emerge from this consultative process take effect on 1st January 2012.

“This will amongst other things enable the Commission engage further with all relevant stakeholders for their understanding and also align the review dates with calendar of most business especially in the Nigerian Electricity Supply Industry (NESI) and the gas supply sector,” he added.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/news/76-hot-topic/22385-new-electricity-tariffs-to-take-effect-january-2012
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by Pennywise(m): 10:17am On Jun 01, 2011
A lot of people do not pay light bills in Nigeria.

It appears the yoke on bill paying citizens and businesses is about to get real heavier. If more pple paid light bills there

will be no need to increase tariff
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by ektbear: 10:23am On Jun 01, 2011
^-- In some places that is true. But consider this Eko Disco: http://www.nigeriaelectricityprivatisation.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/01/Eko_Disco_2011_01_11.pdf

99% collection rate, still losing a ton of money.

We have no choice but to increase tariffs to reflect the true cost of providing electricity.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by somze(f): 10:24am On Jun 01, 2011
Pennywise:

A lot of people do not pay light bills in Nigeria.

It appears the yoke on bill paying citizens and businesses is about to get real heavier. If more pple paid light bills there

will be no need to increase tariff
Very true. Most of them while complain all day about epileptic power while they refuse to pay for the power they use. If everyone paid their bills there would be no need to increase it higher than the current N10 per unit kw (I believe).

PHCN should share most of the blame in this. Due to internal corruption and largely thanks for casual workers whose main responsibility is to disconnect/reconnect defaulters, the pre-paid meters were not made available to most of the public.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by Pennywise(m): 10:31am On Jun 01, 2011
ekt_bear:

^-- In some places that is true. But consider this Eko Disco: http://www.nigeriaelectricityprivatisation.com/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2011/01/Eko_Disco_2011_01_11.pdf

99% collection rate, still losing a ton of money.

We have no choice but to increase tariffs to reflect the true cost of providing electricity.

99% collection rate in their dreams. These govt officials sit on their butt all day and falsify figures
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by otokx(m): 11:04am On Jun 01, 2011
You cannot pay for what you do not get?
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by DisGuy: 2:28pm On Jun 01, 2011
This group seems to be fearing public outcry

The last time a New tariff date was announced it came with the date and price BUT this NERC is announcing a tariff date without announcing the tariff itself
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by EKENEA(m): 5:04pm On Jun 01, 2011
No problem as long as there will be power (light) 24/7
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by bigfat02: 6:25pm On Jun 01, 2011
[size=15pt]will there be light 24hrs a day ?[/size]
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by georgee(m): 6:30pm On Jun 01, 2011
bigfat02:

[size=15pt]will there be light 24hrs a day ?[/size]

YES!, was told by GEJ just now grin grin
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by andyanders: 6:51pm On Jun 01, 2011
Why are they talking of new tariff when there is no light? I think some people inluding government is sick. Now we are even paying for services we dont get. Everyday NEPA/PHCN complain that transformer is not good and no light. Also, look at the kind of electric pools we use in this country. some people even use banboo as pools. Ordinary stick as pools. How can government achieve the provision of electricit as what we as electricity network is just like old NITEL network regarded as cubweb.

Lets forget these people. They want to enrich another set of PHCN.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by odeeeee: 7:00pm On Jun 01, 2011
my people i can almost say that there wont be any difference because even the bills we are paying now is just too much for d light we never get. This will not work they are lying to their teeth.

what happened to the PREPAID METER they introduced at a time.

what is better is for us to buy our light by owning our own meter. and buying the no. of units we need. there should be no dependence on PHCN for this. if this is done i believe it will be like the communication sector we all enjoy today.

Let it be like the recharge cards we buy that does not have to depend on NITEL for it to work.

I believe these people know that they are playing around the real issue.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by tlops(m): 7:09pm On Jun 01, 2011
ommmmg
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by OAM4J: 7:21pm On Jun 01, 2011
I dont think many people will mind paying more, what the people need is constant electricity.

The amount people spend on fueling and maintaining generators is really very high.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by sirjec(m): 7:52pm On Jun 01, 2011
Pennywise:

A lot of people do not pay light bills in Nigeria.

It appears the yoke on bill paying citizens and businesses is about to get real heavier. If more pple paid light bills there

will be no need to increase tariff

You are right. A lot of people don't pay light bills. When the privatization is completed, the companies have to account for every watt-hr consumed, they will either cut off those areas that don't pay or they start paying.

The price will eventually come down when proper accountability is achieved.

But for now, let us enjoy this light at all cost provided it is reasonably practicable.

Currently I spend not less than 20k per month running Generator. If the light is stable, I can't spend up to 5k.

Nigeria is getting better, let us say no to spoilers.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by andyanders: 8:03pm On Jun 01, 2011
Why PHCN stopped giving out the Prepaid meter is because the staffs were not making money from there. Many PHCN make money from the old meter. The prepaid meter cannot be seen now as they always tell us that it is not available. I was even told by one of PHCN marketer that I should bring N80,000 if I want to get the new meter. Cant you see the kind of government we havee? Go to their office and staff quarters in Egbin,Ikorodu you will see the kind of exotic cars their staffs packed in their residential quarters. I leearnt that in that their quarter, for about 30yrs, that they have never had any kind of power failure. They live like kings. It is a pity the kind of Nation we have. At Ikorodu, only epyleptic power supply.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by jensinmi(m): 8:37pm On Jun 01, 2011
More and More delay tactics by the GEJ Administration.


They told us some months ago that the new tariffs will be announced by June. Now they announce that the tariff will take effect in Jan 2012 without telling us what the tariff is. I doubt the tariff will cause any significant change in the electricity situation.

To those like Pennywise that say Nigerians do not want to pay for electricity or do not pay their bills, kindly note that what you said is highly unfair to the average Nigerian struggling to make ends meet. Your statement is based on the false assumption that the bills PHCN bring to residences are representative of the electricity consumed by the users. It is common knowledge that PHCN concocts bills depending on several factors including the appearance of the building, and the supposed status of the inhabitants.

I completely agree with andyanders that before they can ask anyone to pay for electricity, they should give them access to the prepaid meters. This eliminates the issue of PHCN making up fake bills. But it is a slight on the current administration that they have seen no reason to punish the current bosses of PHCN for trying to deprive Nigerians of this right. In fact, it should be mandated that from now on, PHCN should desist from using the analog meters and proceed to only use the prepaid ones.

On another note, all of this is nonsense, unless constitutional amendments are made to allow states and regions supply themselves with power, all this tariff nonsense will not have any effect. The tariff is important, but it does not change the fact that it is not feasible for any independent power project to inject wattage into the "National" grid.

If not for indiscipline and corruption, there would have been no need to privatize our Power Holding Company. It is not always the best for a country to privatize all its institutions. While some may cite the privatization of the Telecommunications sector, we surely do not want to go as far as privatization of our health system so it becomes like America where profit matters most to the Insurance companies and Hospital Managers.

Question now is where do we stop??
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by member479760: 9:18pm On Jun 01, 2011
hahahaha!!! prof. GEJ in action best president so far! let him keep on dancing while we cont to live in darkness. too much ogogoro no good.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by Bensonite: 10:32pm On Jun 01, 2011
If his dance is still affecting you after 4 days then surely you have taken excess kai kai. Wake up man.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by Reference(m): 10:46pm On Jun 01, 2011
I sincerely hope they put the cart before the horse. How they intend to arrive at tariffs without privatization really beats me. It will be something akin to announcing GSM tariffs in 1998.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by lastpage: 11:51pm On Jun 01, 2011
I dont mind paying #100,000 for electricity EVERY MONTH, if that is what l have used!

Let me have a Pre-Paid Meter and let me "manage my own cost" myself!
Put me in Prison then, if l fail to pay!

But to think you can impose just any amount on me because "You're Government", ITS A JOKE!

The issue is not about whether Nigerians pay, like to pay or dont pay for electricity. That is arrant nonsense!

What we should all be protesting for, is that the Pre-Paid Meter be made available to those who want it (if you cant make it standard for everyone).
Why are they hiding the Meters?

'Cos it has exposed the "fathom Bills" that they bring every month, light or no-light!

The sad part is that most Nigerians are too dumb and too cowardly, to demand forcefully, for what is rightfully theirs!
Just too dumb set of humans. angry angry

BTW: I was out of the country for 6weeks (House was completely empty and Change-Over switch was off Nepa-source, for safety reasons) and yet PHCN brought bill of #38,000 for 4weeks of those six weeks!

Now tell me, is it PHCN GHOSTS that were using electricity in my home, DURING MY ABSENCE? Fecking Rogues!
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by Nobody: 6:16am On Jun 02, 2011
Thieves is the only word that can accurately describe PHCN or NEPA or whatever body they intend to metamorphose into. If the electricity is available then we will pay. There are months when you rarely use the power for 72hours all through and then we are assaulted with pornographic bills.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by mrofficial(m): 7:42am On Jun 02, 2011
Seeing is believing. Supply 24/7 everywhere before you effect new tariffs.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by microgint: 8:29am On Jun 02, 2011
PHCN should just introduce the prepaid meters, and people will gladly pay to use what they can afford. Same scenario applied in Nitel where people were sent bills of N100,000 and above monthly for less usage and yet the company couldn't stay afloat as a monopoly. Getting a NITEL Landline was big wahala, after payment of not less than N250,000. But see the GSM companies raking in Billions from the same business. Nitel was given a free license which other companies paid for, had infrastructure all over the country yet couldn't compete with them.

The PHCN workers use estimated billing system, so even if you don't have power for 6-months you continue receiving bills and all those are counted among the non-bill paying group. The PHCN workers give these bills officially which implies it is on their database. Then a worker will offer to wipe off the amount after you give him say 10-30% of the billed amount. after receiving the cash he just prints out a new bill with less amount but the original amount is still in the database which can't be changed.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by ektbear: 9:38am On Jun 02, 2011
mr.official:

Seeing is believing. Supply 24/7 everywhere before you effect new tariffs.

And why would anyone want to invest money in making sure there is 24/7 supply without a profit incentive?

Policy like the one you suggest in bolded will leave Nigeria in darkness.

No new tarriff => no new investment from the private sector
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by DisGuy: 10:12am On Jun 02, 2011
^^ there was a new tarriff in 2007, 3 years progressive increase- no improvement

govt handing over to competent investors is the main thing.

These private investors must be made to provide pre-paid meters first
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by otitokoro1: 11:08am On Jun 02, 2011
I am beginning to suspect PHCN as another means just discover for extortion of the masses. I think what should be address first is how money is spent. Especially preventive measure for embezzlement.

Tax should cover some of this cost and there would be no need for increase in tariff.

However, if increasing the tariff will provide us with power. We will pay as we have been doing. But if the system still did not work?undecided
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by walata2011(m): 11:28am On Jun 02, 2011
The truth is if the power is available for use, everybody will be ready to pay the bills.
We are not getting value for the money we pay presently. Increasing the tariff without first improving the availability of power to me is not justifiable.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by mrofficial(m): 11:47am On Jun 02, 2011
ekt_bear:

And why would anyone want to invest money in making sure there is 24/7 supply without a profit incentive?

Policy like the one you suggest in bolded will leave Nigeria in darkness.

No new tarriff => no new investment from the private sector

Who will pay the new tariff? I believe they will be doomed if they try it without any improvement on supply of electricity.
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by lastpage: 8:25pm On Jun 02, 2011
Peeps, Lets even forget about Tariff increase or 24/7 argument for NOW.

[size=14pt]GET US THE DARN PRE-PAY METER FIRST[/size] AND THEN DO WHATEVER YOU LIKE AFTERWARDS! angry angry angry

Or are these shameless investors and the crooked Government accomplices, afraid of their own "Pre-Pay" Meter?
Re: New Electricity Tariffs To Take Effect January, 2012 by hercules07: 8:28pm On Jun 02, 2011
@ekt

How much do you pay for electricity per month and what is your usage like?

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