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The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Nobody: 11:23am On Nov 01, 2021
As an ex-Christian who has had more encounters with Christians, and since Nigeria is a predominantly Christian society, my main focus is on Christians. This article is merely pointing out the hypocrisy and “insanity” of “religious people”.

CHRISTIANS ON OTHER RELIGIONS/BELIEFS:
Christians want to be able to say things like, “there’s only one true god and other gods are fake” in reference to other religions, or “only a fool believes that there’s no god” in reference to unbelievers, but the moment Christianity is criticized, you get checked because you have no right to “disrespect” their religion. They want to freely express their beliefs and even shove it in your face with or without your consent, while condescending you the moment you express yours. They have the right to destroy shrines, to stand at every corner of the road, harassing people in the name of evangelism, but the moment one says that they don’t believe in any kind of religion or god, they’re crazy. If and irreligious person saying that god doesn’t exist is disrespectful to your religion, then you saying that god exists is disrespectful to their unbelief. But of course, the logic doesn’t work like that.


CHRISTIANS ON MORALITY:
Of course they’d also prioritize their moral values above other peoples. They’re the first to call a girl names, slut, ashawo, olosho, undeserving of respect the moment she dresses in a way that doesn’t align with their morals. They have demonized sex, especially for women, as their god requires. I stand to be corrected but there’s literally no part of the Bible that states a woman should be disrespected if she doesn’t dress a certain way. Even though Nigerians Christians have collectively agreed that certain things which are not in the Bible, like white weddings, are not a part of their religion. So why then are people expected to look a certain way, or have a certain sexual lifestyle before they’re deserving of respect? “Your body is the temple of god” is a phrase that can be interpreted in several ways, and Christians have only ever used it to justify their insulting and disrespecting other people. They don’t care about diversity. They’ve created a route that they believe everyone must follow, and if your dare to divert from the route and try to express yourself differently, you must be condemned. They want everyone else to also stick to the status quo. The hypocrisy and toxicity of this cult is unmatched.

CHRISTIANITY AND THE LAW:
They also use their religious beliefs to justify the most insane and illogical laws, even though they’ll constantly condemn the sharia law for existing. Is that hypocrisy or is that hypocrisy? There’s literally no logical argument for why people of the same gender having sex should be a crime apart from the fact that Yaweh doesn’t like it. A group of people are constantly harassed, insulted, killed for simply existing, and their existence is a “taboo” and nobody cares what is happening to them. After all, they can just “choose” to not have that sexuality if they want to be respected. Religious people emote nothing but sheer bitterness and wickedness.

CHRISTIANITY AND MISOGYNY:
They’ll constantly demean women too, desperately trying to put them in a place, of course because god say so. While many women would pretend that Christianity supports equality, it’s all just a hollow excuse. Now Christian men believe that they have a right to a woman, she also owes them her “virginity” even though they can live their life however they want. This woman also must be submissive to him whether it’s in her nature or not, whether she likes it or not. While submission isn’t a bad thing, it cannot be forced, because then it becomes a bad thing. Let’s not even go into Leviticus as a whole, because according to Christians, the Old Testament no longer applies, even though that’s where they get the statement they use to justify homophobia or other forms of hate.


We’ve given religious people too much power over us, and in many cases it’s necessary if we want to survive, and at the end of the day, they’ll point fingers at you and call you the bad guy, the crazy one.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 2:34pm On Nov 01, 2021
It is always mad people who suddenly wake up and call passersby, mad.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 2:36pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
As an ex-Christian who has had more encounters with Christians,

There is nothing like an ex Christian.

It is Ex-Church Goer.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 3:07pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
... CHRISTIANS ON OTHER RELIGIONS/BELIEFS:
Christians want to be able to say things like, “there’s only one true god and other gods are fake” in reference to other religions, or “only a fool believes that there’s no god” in reference to unbelievers, but the moment Christianity is criticized, you get checked because you have no right to “disrespect” their religion.

At least, you have admitted, you disrespect.

Secondly, our statement that "A fool says there is No God" is very well within the confines of Usual Natural Living wherein we pass our comments on certain acts which are reasonably viewed as Foolish
eg. A person who does not read before exams, is a fool. Or Fly wey no listen to advice, go foolishly follow dead bodi go grave!"

Nothing Absolutely wrong with this.

It is just your guilty mind, conscience and spirit that does is calling you fool, long after our statement has been made.

So your pain and lack of peace is not our fault after all You say,"there is No God".

So be your own god and give yourself peace or seek another who shall give you quiet.

It has nothing to do with us!
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 3:15pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
...CHRISTIANS ON OTHER RELIGIONS/BELIEFS:
.They want to freely express their beliefs and even shove it in your face with or without your consent, while condescending you the moment you express yours.

Everyone's got a right to express themselves but it is The Power of God that Christians Dominate as Fore-Declared by God, "the evil bows to The Good" Proverbs 14:19

So it is not our fault that God Truly Supports us to Prevail All the time. grin
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 3:48pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
... . If and irreligious person saying that god doesn’t exist is disrespectful to your religion, then you saying that god exists is disrespectful to their unbelief. But of course, the logic doesn’t work like that.

grin Of course it does not work that way because Power is not determined by man, it is Absolutely Controlled by God Himself.

Of course you thought the Bible was joking when it said "ALL POWER BELONGS TO GOD"!

It truly does! grin

Firefoxy:

CHRISTIANS ON MORALITY:
Of course they’d also prioritize their moral values above other peoples.

grin Of Course, we have the best and the Most Rightestess Laws in all the earth.

The same Laws which came from God, Whom you hate and not from stupid evil men.

So, yeah, we are gonna be the loudest on the Block, As you have confessed, which of course proves the Superiority of God Above All. grin

Firefoxy:
...
CHRISTIANITY AND THE LAW:
They also use their religious beliefs to justify the most insane and illogical laws, even though they’ll constantly condemn the sharia law for existing. Is that hypocrisy or is that hypocrisy?

That's what happens when you have the Bestest Law in the world.

And to the criminalsl, Any Laws Prohibiting Crimes are always illogical.

Firefoxy:

There’s literally no logical argument for why people of the same gender having sex should be a crime apart from the fact that Yaweh doesn’t like it.

This True! For it is not tenants, inhabitants or Squatters who have a Right to make Laws BUT ALWAYS THE RIGHT OF THE LORD OF THE LAND TO MAKE THE LAW (LandLord)

AND GOD, THE LANDLORD, HAS ALREADY MADE THE LAW.

Firefoxy:

CHRISTIANITY AND MISOGYNY:
They’ll constantly demean women too, desperately trying to put them in a place, of course because god say so.

Ah, this one is probably the worst.

SAME LAW, OF LANDLORD.

Secondly, it is woman who demeaned herself as her file and record has shown.

And who can bring woman into the House when Landlord has put her in the dustbin?

Thus, we have no choice but to treat her as the dustbin tenant that she brought upon herself.

AND THE INSANE THING IS THAT SHE STILL CONTINUES PROVING WHY SHE SHOULD REMAIN IN THE DUSTBIN.

So, it is not our fault that she was stupid enough to go mess up in front of LandLord!
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Nobody: 5:19pm On Nov 01, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Of course it does not work that way because Power is not determined by man, it is Absolutely Controlled by God Himself.

Of course you thought the Bible was joking when it said "ALL POWER BELONGS TO GOD"!

It truly does! grin



grin Of Course, we have the best and the Most Rightestess Laws in all the earth.

The same Laws which came from God, Whom you hate and not from stupid evil men.

So, yeah, we are gonna be the loudest on the Block, As you have confessed, which of course proves the Superiority of God Above All. grin

CHRISTIANITY AND THE LAW:
They also use their religious beliefs to justify the most insane and illogical laws, even though they’ll constantly condemn the sharia law for existing. Is that hypocrisy or is that hypocrisy?

That's what happens when you have the Bestest Law in the world.

And to the criminalsl, Any Laws Prohibiting Crimes are always illogical.



This True! For it is not tenants, inhabitants or Squatters who have a Right to make Laws BUT ALWAYS THE RIGHT OF THE LORD OF THE LAND TO MAKE THE LAW (LandLord)

AND GOD, THE LANDLORD, HAS ALREADY MADE THE LAW.



Ah, this one is probably the worst.

SAME LAW, OF LANDLORD.

Secondly, it is woman who demeaned herself as her file and record has shown.

And who can bring woman into the House when Landlord has put her in the dustbin?

Thus, we have no choice but to treat her as the dustbin tenant that she brought upon herself.

AND THE INSANE THING IS THAT SHE STILL CONTINUES PROVING WHY SHE SHOULD REMAIN IN THE DUSTBIN.

So, it is not our fault that she was stupid enough to go mess up in front of LandLord!

You seem mentally ill. One cannot make sense of anything you’re saying.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29pm On Nov 01, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:

There is nothing like an ex Christian.
It is Ex-Church Goer.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,

No ex-Christians but ex-Churchgoers

I'll reserve my comment! smiley
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by kingxsamz(m): 7:32pm On Nov 01, 2021
Lmao... Most Christians are hypocrites when it comes to their religion and I mean "most".
Funny thing is most of them hardly uphold 90% of their doctrines. They commit different sins on daily basis, but just do something different against their 'usual sins' and they'll remind you that it's against the bible.
The same Bible where their god ordered men to slaughter innocent women and children.
Lol, good thing many people are getting enlightened more frequently, thanks to the internet. One day most people will realize that all sky daddies are useless in reality. cheesy
50 years from now, the phrase "Jesus is coming" will be a joke of the past.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by PARADIZEPRIEST: 8:33pm On Nov 01, 2021
undecided
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by PARADIZEPRIEST: 8:34pm On Nov 01, 2021
THE THREAD OF A CONFIRMED LUNATIC. angry
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by onlyforchrist: 9:16pm On Nov 01, 2021
They call him aja digbolugi in English it means a lunatic dog. A dog like that people run away from it because, it can bite you.
Run now for your mental wellness.


Firefoxy:


You seem mentally ill. One cannot make sense of anything you’re saying.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by A001: 9:38pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
As an ex-Christian who has had more encounters with Christians, and since Nigeria is a predominantly Christian society, my main focus is on Christians. This article is merely pointing out the hypocrisy and “insanity” of “religious people”.

CHRISTIANS ON OTHER RELIGIONS/BELIEFS:
Christians want to be able to say things like, “there’s only one true god and other gods are fake” in reference to other religions, or “only a fool believes that there’s no god” in reference to unbelievers, but the moment Christianity is criticized, you get checked because you have no right to “disrespect” their religion. They want to freely express their beliefs and even shove it in your face with or without your consent, while condescending you the moment you express yours. They have the right to destroy shrines, to stand at every corner of the road, harassing people in the name of evangelism, but the moment one says that they don’t believe in any kind of religion or god, they’re crazy. If and irreligious person saying that god doesn’t exist is disrespectful to your religion, then you saying that god exists is disrespectful to their unbelief. But of course, the logic doesn’t work like that.


CHRISTIANS ON MORALITY:
Of course they’d also prioritize their moral values above other peoples. They’re the first to call a girl names, slut, ashawo, olosho, undeserving of respect the moment she dresses in a way that doesn’t align with their morals. They have demonized sex, especially for women, as their god requires. I stand to be corrected but there’s literally no part of the Bible that states a woman should be disrespected if she doesn’t dress a certain way. Even though Nigerians Christians have collectively agreed that certain things which are not in the Bible, like white weddings, are not a part of their religion. So why then are people expected to look a certain way, or have a certain sexual lifestyle before they’re deserving of respect? “Your body is the temple of god” is a phrase that can be interpreted in several ways, and Christians have only ever used it to justify their insulting and disrespecting other people. They don’t care about diversity. They’ve created a route that they believe everyone must follow, and if your dare to divert from the route and try to express yourself differently, you must be condemned. They want everyone else to also stick to the status quo. The hypocrisy and toxicity of this cult is unmatched.

CHRISTIANITY AND THE LAW:
They also use their religious beliefs to justify the most insane and illogical laws, even though they’ll constantly condemn the sharia law for existing. Is that hypocrisy or is that hypocrisy? There’s literally no logical argument for why people of the same gender having sex should be a crime apart from the fact that Yaweh doesn’t like it. A group of people are constantly harassed, insulted, killed for simply existing, and their existence is a “taboo” and nobody cares what is happening to them. After all, they can just “choose” to not have that sexuality if they want to be respected. Religious people emote nothing but sheer bitterness and wickedness.

CHRISTIANITY AND MISOGYNY:
They’ll constantly demean women too, desperately trying to put them in a place, of course because god say so. While many women would pretend that Christianity supports equality, it’s all just a hollow excuse. Now Christian men believe that they have a right to a woman, she also owes them her “virginity” even though they can live their life however they want. This woman also must be submissive to him whether it’s in her nature or not, whether she likes it or not. While submission isn’t a bad thing, it cannot be forced, because then it becomes a bad thing. Let’s not even go into Leviticus as a whole, because according to Christians, the Old Testament no longer applies, even though that’s where they get the statement they use to justify homophobia or other forms of hate.


We’ve given religious people too much power over us, and in many cases it’s necessary if we want to survive, and at the end of the day, they’ll point fingers at you and call you the bad guy, the crazy one.



Well said.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by A001: 10:12pm On Nov 01, 2021
PROFESSOR NIYI OSUNDARE ON RELIGION AND NIGERIANS

"Religion has killed rational thinking in Nigeria. I say this all the time, our country is still in a pre-scientific era. That is why things are like this.

We don’t think logically; that is why any ruler, any fool would seize the reins and rule us, because we would always find an excuse for being ruled or being led by the nose.

Not long ago a pastor said he was between two cities and he discovered that the fuel in his car had run out.

He actually checked and saw the fuel in the car was completely gone.

But because of his act of faith and on the strength of his prayers, he was able to do two hundred miles on an empty tank!

When he declared this testimony, people clapped and shouted “ Hallelujah!” I never heard anybody say how can?"

"Nigerians don’t ask questions; that is why the imams and the pastors lead them by the nose, and the politicians also complete their humiliation and disempowerment.

And between the clerics and the political functionaries, there is a very close liaison. It’s a kind of power structure; one controls the political, social realm, the other controls the spiritual, metaphysical realm and they are together.

Many Nigerians are not rational, interrogative people. In fact, in this country today, if you are the interrogative type you are easily labelled, branded, and condemned.

People even wonder: why are you always asking questions?"

"Another problem: well, our people are docile and the reason why they take all kinds of cheating is that many of them envisage themselves in the position of power someday, too.

If I am X and the oppressor is Y, and the oppressor is oppressing me, stealing all the money, and making life difficult for me and my children, I am not likely to attack him.

I’ll pray to God to let my own “miracle” happen so that someday, he will go and I will be in his place. No; I am praying for him to go but for the structure to remain."
~ Professor Niyi Osundare

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by chukwunweikeemi(m): 11:15pm On Nov 01, 2021
It is impossible to be a christian today and not be a christian tomorrow.Maybe the Op wanted to say he used to attend church.By the way I perceive so much hate in his write_up and I have no words to comfort him but to say we christians serve an authoritative God and so the Holy Bible is also an authoritative book that stand on its own .The Bible steps on everybody's toes and God makes no apologies for it.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by hupernikao: 11:16pm On Nov 01, 2021
Firefoxy:
As an ex-Christian who has had more encounters with Christians, and since Nigeria is a predominantly Christian society, my main focus is on Christians. This article is merely pointing out the hypocrisy and “insanity” of “religious people”.

CHRISTIANS ON OTHER RELIGIONS/BELIEFS:
Christians want to be able to say things like, “there’s only one true god and other gods are fake” in reference to other religions, or “only a fool believes that there’s no god” in reference to unbelievers, but the moment Christianity is criticized, you get checked because you have no right to “disrespect” their religion. They want to freely express their beliefs and even shove it in your face with or without your consent, while condescending you the moment you express yours. They have the right to destroy shrines, to stand at every corner of the road, harassing people in the name of evangelism, but the moment one says that they don’t believe in any kind of religion or god, they’re crazy. If and irreligious person saying that god doesn’t exist is disrespectful to your religion, then you saying that god exists is disrespectful to their unbelief. But of course, the logic doesn’t work like that.


CHRISTIANS ON MORALITY:
Of course they’d also prioritize their moral values above other peoples. They’re the first to call a girl names, slut, ashawo, olosho, undeserving of respect the moment she dresses in a way that doesn’t align with their morals. They have demonized sex, especially for women, as their god requires. I stand to be corrected but there’s literally no part of the Bible that states a woman should be disrespected if she doesn’t dress a certain way. Even though Nigerians Christians have collectively agreed that certain things which are not in the Bible, like white weddings, are not a part of their religion. So why then are people expected to look a certain way, or have a certain sexual lifestyle before they’re deserving of respect? “Your body is the temple of god” is a phrase that can be interpreted in several ways, and Christians have only ever used it to justify their insulting and disrespecting other people. They don’t care about diversity. They’ve created a route that they believe everyone must follow, and if your dare to divert from the route and try to express yourself differently, you must be condemned. They want everyone else to also stick to the status quo. The hypocrisy and toxicity of this cult is unmatched.

CHRISTIANITY AND THE LAW:
They also use their religious beliefs to justify the most insane and illogical laws, even though they’ll constantly condemn the sharia law for existing. Is that hypocrisy or is that hypocrisy? There’s literally no logical argument for why people of the same gender having sex should be a crime apart from the fact that Yaweh doesn’t like it. A group of people are constantly harassed, insulted, killed for simply existing, and their existence is a “taboo” and nobody cares what is happening to them. After all, they can just “choose” to not have that sexuality if they want to be respected. Religious people emote nothing but sheer bitterness and wickedness.

CHRISTIANITY AND MISOGYNY:
They’ll constantly demean women too, desperately trying to put them in a place, of course because god say so. While many women would pretend that Christianity supports equality, it’s all just a hollow excuse. Now Christian men believe that they have a right to a woman, she also owes them her “virginity” even though they can live their life however they want. This woman also must be submissive to him whether it’s in her nature or not, whether she likes it or not. While submission isn’t a bad thing, it cannot be forced, because then it becomes a bad thing. Let’s not even go into Leviticus as a whole, because according to Christians, the Old Testament no longer applies, even though that’s where they get the statement they use to justify homophobia or other forms of hate.


We’ve given religious people too much power over us, and in many cases it’s necessary if we want to survive, and at the end of the day, they’ll point fingers at you and call you the bad guy, the crazy one.




@LordReed
Do you see another one? This is the third in succession.

A man who hasn't walked pass his community nor see sun beyond his localised horizon claiming to know how ALL CHRISTIANS in Nigeria think and act. I guess he just want to feel good.

If you tell him now that he is generalizing, he will ask me to prove it to him, or show him where.

A man which conviction is based on generalization never have any conviction to start with.

Like I have always said,

the ONLY lifeline atheism and irreligious have on Christian Faith is power of generalization. Atheism, especially those in Nigeria won't survive a minute contest when the ability to generalized is removed from their discussion on Christian faith.

To me, I know there are only very few atheists in Nigeria, most of those who claimed to be atheists are only birthed from confusion of false biblical doctrine, disappointments on wrong expectation from God and inordinate desires to be rebellious.

They plenty on NL here camouflaging as atheists.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by LordReed(m): 11:22pm On Nov 01, 2021
hupernikao:


@LordReed
Do you see another one? This is the third in succession.

A man who hasn't walked pass his community nor see sun beyond his localised horizon claiming to know how ALL CHRISTIANS in Nigeria think and act. I guess he just want to feel good.

If you tell him now that he is generalizing, he will ask me to prove it to him, or show him where.

A man which conviction is based on generalization never have any conviction to start with.

Like I have always said,

the ONLY lifeline atheism and irreligious have on Christian Faith is power of generalization. Atheism, especially those in Nigeria won't survive a minute contest when the ability to generalized is removed from their discussion on Christian faith.

To me, I know there are only very few atheists in Nigeria, most of those who claimed to be atheists are only birthed from confusion of false biblical doctrine, disappointments on wrong expectation from God and inordinate desires to be rebellious.

They plenty on NL here camouflaging as atheists.


I don't like generalisations either but I don't see how it makes an atheist fake.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by hupernikao: 12:04am On Nov 02, 2021
LordReed:


I don't like generalisations either but I don't see how it makes an atheist fake.

Atheist aren't fake, and I know there are real atheist, but few, especially in a place like Nigeria where many can sell their convictions in exchange for goodies and solution to problems.

I know when a man has a conviction whether is for or against what I belief is a different issue. But a man with a conviction can be trusted anyday, at least, we will know what he is known for.


But not these ones we find on NL daily, who are disturbed by varying life challenges and drew their unstable conviction under the umbrella of laziness, social pressure and localized view of things.

They see the new found love (atheism) as an avenue to showcase their past disappointments.


Like I pointed out last time, it's as if most of the intelligent and dutiful Atheists on NL have been converted even though you disagreed partially, but if that isn't true, then I can conclude they have moved on or taken the back seat to give space to the wannabes of these days.

Whatever the case, all I can see is that the holds is giving way gradually and it shall be.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:13am On Nov 02, 2021
Firefoxy:

You seem mentally ill. One cannot make sense of anything you’re saying.

Criminals usually do not and can not read the Judgement Convincting them of their crimes. grin

They also do not hear it when it is read aloud. grin

All they heard was "I find the act of the Defendant/Accused detestable..." and they have bye-bye blanked out. grin

Normal! grin
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:18am On Nov 02, 2021
kingxsamz:
Lmao... Most Christians are hypocrites when it comes to their religion and I mean "most".
Funny thing is most of them hardly uphold 90% of their doctrines. They commit different sins on daily basis, but just do something different against their 'usual sins' and they'll remind you that it's against the bible.
The same Bible where their god ordered men to slaughter innocent women and children.
Lol, good thing many people are getting enlightened more frequently, thanks to the internet. One day most people will realize that all sky daddies are useless in reality. cheesy
50 years from now, the phrase "Jesus is coming" will be a joke of the past.

It is Church Goers who do this as you have seen and not Christians.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:31am On Nov 02, 2021
PARADIZEPRIEST:
THE THREAD OF A CONFIRMED LUNATIC. angry

grin

She was wants to freely kill for.ck everything to death without limitation and restriction whether man, animal, woman, plant, teddy bear, trailer, house etc
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:34am On Nov 02, 2021
onlyforchrist:
They call him aja digbolugi in English it means a lunatic dog. A dog like that people run away from it because, it can bite you.
Run now for your mental wellness.

Criminals would always complain about policemen ruining their operations. grin

And everything they say about them is always Biased.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:44am On Nov 02, 2021
A001:
PROFESSOR NIYI OSUNDARE ON RELIGION AND NIGERIANS

"Religion has killed rational thinking in Nigeria. I say this all the time, our country is still in a pre-scientific era. That is why things are like this.

We don’t think logically; that is why any ruler, any fool would seize the reins and rule us, because we would always find an excuse for being ruled or being led by the nose.

Not long ago a pastor said he was between two cities and he discovered that the fuel in his car had run out.

He actually checked and saw the fuel in the car was completely gone.

But because of his act of faith and on the strength of his prayers, he was able to do two hundred miles on an empty tank!

When he declared this testimony, people clapped and shouted “ Hallelujah!” I never heard anybody say how can?"

"Nigerians don’t ask questions; that is why the imams and the pastors lead them by the nose, and the politicians also complete their humiliation and disempowerment.

And between the clerics and the political functionaries, there is a very close liaison. It’s a kind of power structure; one controls the political, social realm, the other controls the spiritual, metaphysical realm and they are together.

Many Nigerians are not rational, interrogative people. In fact, in this country today, if you are the interrogative type you are easily labelled, branded, and condemned.

People even wonder: why are you always asking questions?"

"Another problem: well, our people are docile and the reason why they take all kinds of cheating is that many of them envisage themselves in the position of power someday, too.

If I am X and the oppressor is Y, and the oppressor is oppressing me, stealing all the money, and making life difficult for me and my children, I am not likely to attack him.

I’ll pray to God to let my own “miracle” happen so that someday, he will go and I will be in his place. No; I am praying for him to go but for the structure to remain."
~ Professor Niyi Osundare

That is church goers/visitors not Christians.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 5:59am On Nov 02, 2021
chukwunweikeemi:
It is impossible to be a christian today and not be a christian tomorrow.Maybe the Op wanted to say he used to attend church.

Oh brother, Tell them! Tell them!

It is impossible to be A Christian AND CHANGE!

IT IS ALWAYS CHURCH VISITORS WHO ARE GOING THERE AS THEIR NEW BABALAWO SHRINE.

And they are the same one who always change babalawos because the babalawo does not have POWER.

Upto even making themselves their own gods.

chukwunweikeemi:

By the way I perceive so much hate in his write_up and I have no words to comfort him but to say we christians serve an authoritative God and so the Holy Bible is also an authoritative book that stand on its own. The Bible steps on everybody's toes and God makes no apologies for it.

O Sweet.

God Whips and Thrashes the wicked and evil whoever they might be and wherever they might be, UNFAILINGLY.

And rather than change, they sulk complaining about The Laws and the whips they got while still plotting another evil which they think that God would not See.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by LordReed(m): 6:21am On Nov 02, 2021
hupernikao:


Atheist aren't fake, and I know there are real atheist, but few, especially in a place like Nigeria where many can sell their convictions in exchange for goodies and solution to problems.

I know when a man has a conviction whether is for or against what I belief is a different issue. But a man with a conviction can be trusted anyday, at least, we will know what he is known for.


But not these ones we find on NL daily, who are disturbed by varying life challenges and drew their unstable conviction under the umbrella of laziness, social pressure and localized view of things.

They see the new found love (atheism) as an avenue to showcase their past disappointments.


Like I pointed out last time, it's as if most of the intelligent and dutiful Atheists on NL have been converted even though you disagreed partially, but if that isn't true, then I can conclude they have moved on or taken the back seat to give space to the wannabes of these days.

Whatever the case, all I can see is that the holds is giving way gradually and it shall be.

And I asked you for evidence of this conversion you provided none. Sure people can declare themselves atheists for bad reasons it's still their perogative, no need to police that. In my view it is inconsequential what you call yourself, what matters most is how you treat your fellow humans and your environment.

BTW I don't think Firefoxy is atheist, just ex-christian. Not all ex-christians are atheist.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by LordReed(m): 6:34am On Nov 02, 2021
chukwunweikeemi:
It is impossible to be a christian today and not be a christian tomorrow.Maybe the Op wanted to say he used to attend church.By the way I perceive so much hate in his write_up and I have no words to comfort him but to say we christians serve an authoritative God and so the Holy Bible is also an authoritative book that stand on its own .The Bible steps on everybody's toes and God makes no apologies for it.

Or rather you step on people's toes with no apology, we say no god stepping on anyone's toes.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by A001: 6:46am On Nov 02, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


That is church goers/visitors not Christians.
That means there are no Christians in Nigerians then, Dliespeaker.

Most Christians in this country exhibit those traits the renowned poet mentioned.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 7:01am On Nov 02, 2021
A001:

That means there are no Christians in Nigerians then, Dliespeaker.

Most Christians in this country exhibit those traits the renowned poet mentioned.

Have you met everyone in Nigeria to know this for a Truth?

However, I believe you may have met one or two of them, whom you HATE and call goody-goody, laying and setting wicked wicked traps for them to fall and rejoicing when they appear to you that they have fallen but you are once again angry, even Angrier and Much More Hate full when they do not Fall.

I believe in Truth, if there is any Truth remaining in you, you know at least 2.
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by A001: 7:03am On Nov 02, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Have you met everyone in Nigeria to know this for a Truth?

However, I believe you may have met one or two of them, whom you HATE and call goody-goody, laying and setting wicked wicked traps for them to fall and rejoicing when they appear to you that they have fallen but you are once again angry, even Angrier and Much More Hate full when they do not Fall.

I believe in Truth, if there is any Truth remaining in you, you know at least 2.
So says a programmed bot that exists on Nairaland and has no life beyond this platform. Lols.

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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by Dtruthspeaker: 7:23am On Nov 02, 2021
A001:

So says a programmed bot that exists on Nairaland and has no life beyond this platform. Lols.

Wow, so there is someone here who does not know that it is humans who are in social media ? illiterate schoolist!
Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by A001: 7:56am On Nov 02, 2021
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Re: The Lunacy Of Religious People(christians), Conservatives And “moralists” by hupernikao: 9:36pm On Nov 02, 2021
LordReed:


And I asked you for evidence of this conversion you provided none. Sure people can declare themselves atheists for bad reasons it's still their perogative, no need to police that. In my view it is inconsequential what you call yourself, what matters most is how you treat your fellow humans and your environment.


Well, it was a hypothesis. I am still observing that.

Also, not really policing but helping them see their issues. Most times we don't want to accept what happened to us and try to find the easiest way or follow what we think is in vogue. That is the plight of many who criticize the Bible here.

LordReed:
BTW I don't think Firefoxy is atheist, just ex-christian. Not all ex-christians are atheist.

Well, he isn't an ex Christians, maybe a non Christian or likely a confused Christian who need help but feels he knows better. He will be fine soon.

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