Antichristian I mentioned you before and you didn't reply. This is your last chance or else I don't want to see you on christian threads saying rubbish.

Come and defend your moloch that you bow down towards the east to worship.

Oil dey your head. But the bias MODs will ban you

thatsleepboy1:
Antichristian I mentioned you before and you didn't reply. This is your last chance or else I don't want to see you on christian threads saying rubbish.

Come and defend your moloch that you bow down towards the east to worship.

Stop telling lies! Moloch is a Canaanite deity associated in Biblical sources with the practice of child sacrifice! I have never sacrificed any child and i worship no Moloch!

O Christian liar, stop telling lies!

Are this people worshipping Moloch by bowing too?

1. Jesus: Going a little farther, he (Jesus) fell with his face to the ground and prayed Matthew 26:39

2. Abram: "And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying...," - Old Testament (Genesis 17:3)

3. Abraham:"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?" - Old Testament (Genesis 17:17)

4. Moses: "And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshiped." - Old Testament (Exodus 34:

5. Moses & Aaron:“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.” - Old Testament (Numbers 20:6)

6. Moses & Aaron:"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?" - Old Testament (Numbers 16:20-22)

7. Ezra and his People: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground. - Old Testament (Nehemiah 8:6)

8. Joshua: "And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?" - Old Testament (Tanakh) (Joshua 5:14)

9. A Prophet: "And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 9:

10 Jehoshaphat: "And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD." - Old Testament (2 Chronicles 20:18)

11. A Prophet:"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?" - Old Testament (Ezekiel 11:13)

Antichristian, the above verses does not make sense and hold water cos anybody can bow down to anything and claim to be bowing down to G-D. Well, let's start by analyzing them bits by bits but quran first ordered y'all to face Jerusalem and then again ordered worshippers to face the sun, quran is full of confusion. Let's start with Sura 72 that is titled jinns and here are short quotes.

Muslims claim that the Koran contains the words of Allah, 100%, but
the Koran not only has Satanic verses, but also a demonic sura. Unbelievably, a whole sura (chapter) in the Koran is named after the demons.
Shocking but true. Sura 72 is entitled Jinn (demons), Here is a short
quote:.
1. ìSay: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns
listened [to the Koran] They said, we have really heard a
wonderful Recital!
2. It gives guidance to the right, and we have believed therein
we shall not join [in worship] any [gods] with our Lord.
3. And exalted is the majesty of our Lord: He has taken neither
a wife nor a son.
4. There are some foolish ones among us who used to utter
extravagant lies against God.
5. But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that
is untrue against God.
6. True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter
with persons among the jinns but they increased them in folly.
7. And they [came to] think as ye thought, that God would not
raise up anyone [to judgement].
8. And we pried into the secret of heaven: but we found it filled
with stern guards and flaming fire
9. We used, indeed, to sit there in [hidden] stations, to [steal] a
hearing: but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.
10. And we understand not whether it is intended to those on
earth or whether their Lord [really] intends to guide them to
right conduct.
11. There are among us that are righteous and some the
contrary: we follow divergent path.
12. But we think that we can by no means frustrate God,
throughout the earth, nor can we frustrate Him by flight.
13. And as for us, since we have listened to the guidance, we
have accepted it: and any who believes in his Lord has no fear,
either of a short [account] or of any injustice.
14. Amongst us are some that submit their wills [to God] and
some that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their
willsñthey sought out [the path] of right conduct.
15. But those who swerve, they are [but] fuel for hell fire.

It should disturb every Muslim that demonic conversations are considered to be part of the supposed word of Allah. But upon reflection you
can see how and why they are

No one should take a jinns claim seriously, that some of them are
righteous,î Sura 72:11. Satan is the father of lies (John 19:44), so why
should we believe what his Jinns said in the Koran? Jinns, like their
Master (Satan), are liars.
To deceive us, they gather half-baked truths
into bundles of lies. That demons and Satan are barred from the true heaven forever is indicated from their own confession in verses 8-9.
There they admit that they unsuccessfully tried to storm heaven but met
opposition from stern-looking angelic guards. Even their attempt to spy
at heaven was foiled as they admit in verse 9. The true nature and root
of Islam is revealed in verse 14 when the jinns, (whom the Bible God
cast out of heaven) became Muslims and found a refuge in Islam.
Among us [jinns-demons] are some that submit wills (to God)
[i.e. Muslims] and some that swerve from justice. Now those
who submit their wills [demonic Muslims] they sought out [the
path] of right conduct. (Sura 72, Jinn, 14).

God forbid that I should belong to the same religion that the archenemies of God, the demons, also profess. Who could sponsor a religion
that includes Godís arch-enemies, i.e. the jinns (demons)? Only Satan
posing as Allah would do so. Before their conversion, the evil spirits
confessed what was later to be a central theme of Islam, that Allah has
neither taken a wife nor had a son (72:3).
It is clear at this point that while posing as the angel Gabriel and
claiming to be from Allah, one of these jinns (demons), gave Muhammad
a denial of the sonship of Christ and the fatherhood of God. This blatant
falsehood is repeated over twenty times in the Koran. Bearing in mind
the Satanic verses incident, one must acknowledge that the devil can
impersonate a holy angel. (2 Corinthians 11:13-15). As an interesting
note, when Muhammad received his first ìrevelations,î he was not sure
of the source of them himself. His wife (Khadija) convinced him that
they must have come by the angel Gabriel.1
Muhammadís encounter with the jinns (demons) is also recorded in
another sura, Sura 46, Al-Ahqaf, 29-32:
29: ìBehold, we turned towards the company of jinns [quietly]
listening to the Koran; when they stood in thy presence thereof,
they said ëListen in silence!í when the (reading) was finished,
they returned to their people, to warn [them of their sins].
30: They said, O our people! we have heard a Book revealed
after Moses, confirming what came before it: It guides [men] to
the truth and to straight path.
31: O our people hearken to the one who invite [you] to God,
and believe in him: He will forgive you your faults, and deliver
you from a penalty grievous.
32: If any does not hearken to the one who invites [us] to God,
he cannot frustrate [Godís plan] on earth, and no protectors can
he have besides God; such men [wonders] in manifest errors.íî
These are admissions, within the Koran, that Muhammad had actual
contacts with demons. This encounter is believed to have taken place at
a time Muhammad lost his first wife, Khadija, and his uncle, Abu Talib,
who had been protecting him all along. Muhammad tried to seek refuge
in Taif, a village on the hilly side of Mecca, but the villagers rejected him,
and he slipped out to the desert where the jinns (demons) met with him
as he recited the Koran.

This second sura, dealing with the same event as in Sura Jinn, goes
so far as to reveal that the jinns (demons), after listening to the Koran,
began to proclaim it to others. In other words, demons became missionaries for Islam. Their support for the Koran shows that the jinns and
Islam are inseparable.

The conversion of seventy three Yatrib (Medina)
pagans to Islam, before the Prophet Muhammad even set foot there,
cannot be unconnected with the evangelistic activities of faithful jinns
(demons). As expert whisperers, demons whispered to villagers, îLo! we
have heard a wonderful recitation, [i.e. the Koran], so believe it (Sura
46:31). Obviously, demons played a crucial role in the formation of
Islam, and today they are playing a significant role in its spread. The
jinnís are true Muslims!.

thatsleepboy1:
Antichristian, the above verses does not make sense and hold water cos anybody can bow down to anything and claim to be bowing down to G-D. Well, let's start by analyzing them bits by bits but quran first ordered y'all to face Jerusalem and then again ordered worshippers to face the sun, quran is full of confusion. Let's start with Sura 72 that is titled jinns and here are short quotes.




No one should take a jinns claim seriously, that some of them are
righteous,î Sura 72:11. Satan is the father of lies (John 19:44), so why
should we believe what his Jinns said in the Koran? Jinns, like their
Master (Satan), are liars.
To deceive us, they gather half-baked truths
into bundles of lies. That demons and Satan are barred from the true heaven forever is indicated from their own confession in verses 8-9.
There they admit that they unsuccessfully tried to storm heaven but met
opposition from stern-looking angelic guards. Even their attempt to spy
at heaven was foiled as they admit in verse 9. The true nature and root
of Islam is revealed in verse 14 when the jinns, (whom the Bible God
cast out of heaven) became Muslims and found a refuge in Islam.
Among us [jinns-demons] are some that submit wills (to God)
[i.e. Muslims] and some that swerve from justice. Now those
who submit their wills [demonic Muslims] they sought out [the
path] of right conduct. (Sura 72, Jinn, 14).

You people are plain ignorant! If you believe Angels could rebel God (which i don't believe) why can't Jinns be good/ bad ?

And why lie that Muslims face the sun when praying? Did the Holy Spirit make you lie?

AntiChristian:


You people are plain ignorant! If you believe Angels could rebel God (which i don't believe) why can't Jinns be good/ bad ?

And why lie that Muslims face the sun when praying? Did the Holy Spirit make you lie?

You've not addressed the main issue o, you're drifting. Ewwww

thatsleepboy1:


You've not addressed the main issue o, you're drifting. Ewwww

What's the main issue?

Jinn are like human as they can be righteous or otherwise! And that you lied by saying we face the sun!

AntiChristian:


What's the main issue?

Jinn are like human as they can be righteous or otherwise! And that you lied by saying we face the sun!

Lol. What a confusionist, jinns that we all know are demons and how did they turn to become humans.

Kindly explain these verses below

Surat al-Baqara:
From whencesoever thou startest forth, turn thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque, that is indeed the truth from thy Lord. And God is not unmindful of what ye doî (Sura 2:149).

And still in another verse, the same command is rendered thus: We see the turning of thy face [for guidance] to the heavens: now shall we turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque: whenever ye are, turn your faces in that direction (Sura 2:144)

From te Bible of our G-D, we all know we were told and we understand that The Children of Israel experienced the lovingkindness of Yahweh (God)
in the wilderness; they witnessed His miracles. They knew it was not the
sun in the sky that delivered them from Egypt, nor the sun that parted
the Red Sea for them or provided them with manna during their
wilderness wanderings. To the Israelites, the sun was but a symbol, and
yet in the quote above they were bowing down to it. God who judges the
intents of the heart, knew their hearts. He condemned their act and
called it an abomination.
But what is the Islamic attitude towards a similar practice? Allah is
alleged to have handed down the following command, as recorded in
Surat al-Baqara above. The reader should notice that Muslims were previously commanded
to turn their faces towards Jerusalem when praying. What the speaker

is saying in the above sura is that they should change to Mecca.
In the preface of the book entitled IslamñThe First and Final Religion,
page V, the author tries his best to defend the usual Islamic argument
that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaíaba for the worship of Allah.1
Whether that claim is true or false is not the point. The Islamic Abraham
is alleged to have been guilty of shirk (idolatry), so it is not surprising if
it is also claimed that he built Kaíaba. That author went on to say that
Muslims do not really worship or bow to Kaíaba, that the Kaíaba is only
a symbol. That argument is not convincing at all. Why should anyone
bow towards Kaíaba in the first place? If God detests bowing towards a
sun that was made by Him, bowing towards a Kaíaba made by man
would definitely be worse, even if it was built by Abraham. Is the
command to face Kaíaba a test? (Sura 2:145). Does God test people with
idolatry?
Why do Muslims run round the Kaíaba, and even go as far as kissing
it during their ìholyî pilgrimage?2
History tells us that Arabian pagans
performed this ritual before Islam. It is said that the first Khalifah of
Islam, Abu Bakr, when kissing the black stone (of all the colors available
under heaven, why they chose black is not without significance) said,
ìOf a truth, I know that you are nothing but a stone and can do nothing
good or harm. Had I not seen the apostle of Allah kiss you, I would never
kiss youî (Cf. Rafique, Kinsmen of Abraham, P. 19). Worthy of note is
the fact that after the signing of the treaty of al-Hudybiyah (7 A.H.)3
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while the Kaíaba was still housing those 360 idols. Muhammad performed the ritual pilgrimage to Mecca. The conquest of Mecca didnít
take place for another year, (8 A.H.).
Muslims want the world to believe that the Kaíaba was sanctified
(purged) because some of the physical idols were done away with. But
religious matters go far beyond the physical world S powerful spiritual
forces are involved. The Bible teaches that an idol is nothing in itself.
What happens is that Satan stations demons (jinns) in venerated objects
to influence peopleís minds. If you destroy the objects (idols), the
demons (jinns), associated with those objects donít just vanish into thin
air. Some demons are quite territorial, and will remain at the place
where they were worshiped.1
So what happened to the demons that
stood behind idols that used to be at the Kaíaba? Who is in the Kaíaba
now? Is it Allah, or some displaced jinns?2
Ask yourself, if Allah is omnipresent (i.e. present everywhere) why
does one need to face in a particular direction to pray, and in the
direction of a black stone for that matter?
ìO ye who believe! intoxicants and gambling, [dedication of]
stones and [divination by] arrows are an abomination, - of
Satanís handiwork: eschew such [abomination], that ye may
prosperî (Sura 5:93).
So the Koran teaches no dedication of stones, right? Well, what
about the Kaaba, which is also known as the black stone. If I were still
a Muslim, I wouldnít know what to believe, because another revelation in the same Koran tells us that Kaíaba is not only to be venerated, but
also the small hills of Safa and Marwa:
ìBehold! Safa and Marwa are among the symbols of God. So if
those who visit the house [Kaíaba] in the season or at other
times, should compass them round, it is no sin in themî (Sura
2:158).
Which symbol? Does Allah look like Kaíaba or Safa or Marwa?
Historically, the idolatrous significance of these hills was so strong that
early Muslims were reluctant to run round them at all. Hence the
ìrevelationî sanctioning the practice. Since Allah also ordered the
worship of a mere man, Adam (Sura 7:11-13; 38:72-77), his command
for Muslims to venerate stones and hills should come as no surprise.1
What about the astrological symbol of crescent and star? How Islam
came upon and accepted those occult symbols is best known only to
Allah and his jinns. What about the string of beads that Muslims use in
their prayers?
I used to be a Muslim, myself. My goal in this review of Islam is to
point out the falsity of these abominations to unsuspecting worshipers.
It is for the people who were made to memorize everything but have no
way of knowing the truth or error of what they have learned. The aim of
this book is achieved if, after reading it, you are (by Gods grace), freed
from this snare of the devil. Sacred hills, sacred stones and prayer beads
are but institutionalized idolatry.

There is a reference in the Bible book of Zechariah that some believe to be about
Islam and the Kaaba. It is written in figurative language, but the intent of the
passage is plain enough. Notes within the Bible quote are in bold Zec 5:7-11 Again he said, This is their appearance in all the land (and behold, a lead cover was lifted up); and this is a woman sitting inside the ephah (Ephah was a son of Midian whose name meant darkness. [See Holmans Bible Dictionary] An ephah may also be a small basket). Then he said, This is Wickedness!. And I said to the angel who was speaking with me, Where are they taking the ephah (the darkness or the basket of darkness?)? Then he said to me, To build a temple for her in the land of Shinar (in Zechariahs time, the Land of Shinar included Arabia); and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal (the Kaaba?).. There is a now a pedestal in Mecca, dedicated to Allah, that all Muslims revere.
And the people who worship Allah, are they not in great spiritual darkness.


Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image . . . nor bow
down to them. (Exodus 20:4).
THOU means everybody, including Abraham! And the rest of the men which were not killed by these
plagues, yet repented not from the works of their hands that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stones, and of wood; which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk; neither repented they of their murders, or of their sorceries, nor of their fornication nor of their theft (Revelation 9:20-21). Will ye not also repent? If you will not because you were born and bred in the religion, then hear the fate that awaits you:
And the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and they have no rest day nor night who worship the beast [through false religions] and his image . . . (Revelation 14:11).
He stated that God, being a spirit, is everywhere. We may only worship Him in spirit and in truth. Jesus saith believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the
Father. Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshiper shall worship the Father in
spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:21-24). If we accept that kissing the foot of a man is abomination, then every right-thinking mind should admit that running round and kissing a lifeless structure as the Kaaba is one of the worst abominations under the sun. Of a truth, religion outside Christ is religious paganism. False gods will always beget false religions.

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WHO IS allah?


Muslims use the remotest language possible to describe Allah. They try
to make him as transcendent as possible in order to discourage people
from conducting research on him. If you ask a Muslim to define Allah, he
will just beat about the bush, ascribing attributes to him that neither
belong to him nor befit him. But Allah is not as mysterious as Islam
would like the world to believe. He has been at the Kaaba stone all
along. Certainly, Christians have not prayed enough to displace him and
we may never do so until he meets his doom in the valley of Megiddo.
Some say that the word Allah was or is derived from the Syriac
Alaha. But the name Allah was in existence long before Islam. That is
evidenced from the name Abdullah (meaning servant of Allah) ñ the
name of Muhammadís father. The question is this: To whom was this
name originally revealed? Certainly none of the Biblical prophets ever
referred to it. There is absolutely no trace of that name in the Bible. It is
Arabic, not Israelite.
But in the mind of Islamic scholars, anything (negative or positive)
done to further the cause of Islam is justifiable, so they can lie and claim
that the name of Allah was revealed to Adam, Abraham or even Ishmael.
Lies can be told about those patriarchs because they have been dead a
long time and arenít around to refute any false claims. And they never
leave Abraham alone.
In pre-Islamic Arabia, that Muslims now refer to as Al-Jahiliya, meaning a period of ignorance, the Arabians were grossly paganistic. In
and around Kaíaba, the Arabs worshiped 360 idols. Each clan had their
own particular idols to worship. It is provable that Allah was one of the
360 idols that Muhammadís Hashimite clan worshiped.
Muhammadís grandfather, Abdul Muttalib, was the leader of Mecca
and a custodian of Kaabas 360 idols. The Koran confirms that he was a
pagan. The names that Muhammad grandfather gave his children are
further proof that Muhammad was from a family of idol devotees.
Muhammads father was named Abdullah, meaning servant of Allah.
The name of Muhammadís uncle was Abdul Manaf, meaning servant of Manaf. His other name was Abu Talib, meaning father of Talib. This is
indisputable proof that Allah and Manaf were clannish idols worshiped
by Muhammad and his people. Islamic scholars try to hide the historic
fact that Muhammad worshiped idols before and after he claimed to be
a prophet. But they canít do away with the record of the Koran itself.
That Muhammad was later fascinated by the monotheistic creed of
jews and Nestorian Christians is beyond question. He encountered many
of them at Mecca and on his business trips to Syria. His wife, Khadija,
was a Catholic, as was Waraqa ibn Naufal, his secret tutor.
Now, Muhammad wanted to unite the Arab race under a theocratic
setting, but there was no way he could carry along all those 360 idols, so
Muhammad decided to pick from among the idols of his clan. Naturally
he picked Allah, the idol for which his father was named. Any of the
idols would have served; an idol is an idol. It is the demon behind an
idol that deceives the mind and heart.
Those who try to single out Allah and deify him above the other
Meccan idols should remember that Muhammad could just as easily
have picked Manaf, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, or any of the others; and his choice
didnít win the support of everyone, including his uncle, Abdul Manaf.
That is clear from the fact that Abdul didnít submit to Allah and Islam
until his death. He held on to Manaf.
This elevation of one idol over the other 359 angered the other
Meccan clans. The purported persecution of Muhammad was nothing
but an inter-tribal or inter-clannish quarrel over whose idol should be or
whose should not be venerated. In the same vein, the Koran was written
in Muhammadís dialect (Quraish). To pacify the other tribes, Muhammad
told them (with concocted ìrevelationsî) that the preserved tablet in
heaven was written in Quraish. The world was then asked to swallow the
Islamic lie that all the Kaaba idols were destroyed. It just isn't true.
About four of those idols are said to remain. The custodians of Kaaba
should open the stone to independent inspectors should anyone dispute
this.
Just as Islam led 1.2 billion Muslims and even some ignorant
Christians to believe that Jesus is Isa or Esau, so it has tried to make the world believe that Allah is God. But there is no link between Allah and
the Bible God, who revealed His name to be Yahweh, or the I AM.1 Websters New Collegiate Dictionary calls the name of the true God a
Tetragrammaton, which means that it is made up of four letters. Those
Hebrew letters are transliterated YHWH or JHVH. They are usually
pronounced Yahweh or Jehovah. Yahweh means the ìIAM.îThat name
defines G-ds eternal being and divine nature: The only true, almighty,
personal, holy God, and ìthe Father of spirits (Numbers 16:22, cf. John
4:24), The God who revealed Himself to His people, made a covenant
with them, became their law giver, to Whom all honor and worship is
due.
If Godís name was really Allah, why didnít He give that name to the
prophet Moses or to any of the other Old Testament prophets? Why
didnít Jesus ever hint that God might have a name different than the one
already revealed to the prophets? The Supreme Being is eternal isnít He?
If God is without beginning or end, isnít His name also eternal and
unchanging? Of course, but if the Koran is correct, then nobody knew
God's name before Muhammad, and God didnít know what He was
talking about when He told Moses that His name was ìI AM that I AM.î It was at the burning bush that God revealed Himself to Moses as
the ìI AMî (Exodus 3:14). ìI AMî portrays His eternal existence, with no
beginning and no end. He is the only eternal God, there is no other.
There is no room for any usurper idol, no matter what he calls himself.
The name Allah does not belong to the true God, but to an Arabian idol.
But there is more. When Jesus called Himself ìI AMî in John 8:58,
He said in effect that He is the same ìI AMî who spoke to Moses at the
burning bush. The Jews understood exactly what Jesus meant, and tried
to stone Him for it (John 8:59). They knew that Jesus was declaring
Himself to be the final, perfect and practical revelation of true God. The
prophet Isaiah knew it, too, when he called Jesus ìEmanuel,î meaning God with us.î This is not polytheism, God the Father and Jesus His Son
are one Being, one essence. Jesus said:
John 10:30 I and My Father are One.

Continuation from above


This is the only true and eternal God. All others are idols or imagined
gods. 1
I can hear some of you screaming, ìHa! That isnít so; Allah is just
another name for God. Arabs worship the same God we do, under a
different name.î
That view is held by many misinformed people, but it is wrong.
Granted, Allah is the Arabic term for their god, but is Allah the name of
the sovereign and almighty God who created the universe? Aside from
Muhammad (whose prophethood the Islamic scholars have yet to prove)
there is no record anywhere on earth of God having spoken through
Arabs. In fact, the Bible says just the opposite. The last book of the Bible
was written at the end of the 1st century. One of its final statements is:
Rev 22:18 . . . If any man shall add unto these things, God shall
add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
Isnít that what Muhammad did? Didnít he claim to be a prophet long
after God commanded that no one should add to His already revealed
Word? So what does this prove, that an entire race can be wrong in their
conception of deity? Well, the Bible says, ìLet God be true, but every man a liar, (Romans 3:4). This means that anything written that is counter to Godís Word is a lie. Since the supreme Being has told us that
His name is Yahweh, the I AM whoever claims His name is something
else has been influenced by the devil (John 8:44).
You would think Christians would distance themselves from anyone
who believes that God didnít know His own name, but such is not the
case. The Christians of Hausa stock worship and praise Allah. So long as
Christians bow to Allah, victory over Islam will not happen. Little wonder
that mission efforts among Muslims have had little effect. One who
names the name of Christ and bows down to any false god, by whatever
name, is just asking for the enemy to brand the number 666 on his
forehead. Didn't Scripture forewarn us of this danger? Yes indeed:
And he opened his mouth (the dragon inspired beast) in
blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his
tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. And all that dwell
upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written
in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the
world.î (Revelation 13:6,
It is really blasphemy to slander the concept of the fatherhood of
God and deity of Jesus Christ His Son. Those who do so, donít really
know God. The above quote is very clear: everyone whose name is not
written in Jesusí book of life is worshiping Satan (the dragon). The list
of those in the dragonís clutches is endless. It includes Muslims,
hypocritical Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Hari Krishna, Rosicrucians,
Satanists, drug addicts, homosexuals, rapists, pornographers, those who
dabble into the occult and anyone else who turns away from Jesus, the
Son of God.
Many Christians unwittingly worship the dragon in one way or the
other. Some even sing choruses with Allahís name. If you call yourself a
Christian and continue to revere Allah, then something is desperately
wrong with your understanding of Christianity. The true God is a jealous
God who will not tolerate the worship of any but Him. The Old Testament nation of Israel was destroyed because they worshiped other gods,
and God has not changed. Maybe you are really sealed with Allah's seal
with a 666" on your forehead, or maybe your name is not in the
Lambs book of life a Christless Christian worshiping the dragon.
(Rev. 13:.
Some yet argue that the Allah the Christians worship is different
from the Allah of the Muslims. They say that Christians and Muslims
differ in their understanding of the character of Allah. But who has a
greater claim to Allah than the Muslims, and how many Allah are
there? Many who call themselves Christians are a kind of Rachel in Christian disguise. In the same way, many so-called Christians who donít have a correct understanding of the God of the Bible go a-whoring
after the Islamic god of allah. They use every argument under heaven to
justify their spiritual bankruptcy, but to no avail. Arguments that do not
agree with Godís Word, no matter how logical they may seem, will only
lead to strong delusion.
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that
perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they
might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong
delusion, that they should believe a lie (2Thess. 2:10-11).
The translators of the Hausa Bible have aggravated the problem.
They substituted the name Allah for Yahweh, thereby bringing many
Christians under the influence of the dragon. Some are of the opinion
that before the name ìAllahî was used in the Hausa Bible, scholars must
have done extensive research to support their position. But no kind of
research excuses an inaccurate Bible translation. God knew what His
name was when He inspired the Bible, and He gave nobody the authority
to change it. Truth is not discovered through human research, no matter
how scholarly, but by divine enlightenment through the exact Word of
God. Rest assured that any Bible translator who confused Allah with
Yahweh was not inspired by God to do so.

thatsleepboy1:


Lol. What a confusionist, jinns that we all know are demons and how did they turn to become humans.

Jinns are creatures like humans. We can't see them. Some are righteous while others are not. Where did i say they turn in to human? They can possess human or carry their shape/form.

Kindly explain these verses below

Surat al-Baqara:
From whencesoever thou startest forth, turn thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque, that is indeed the truth from thy Lord. And God is not unmindful of what ye doî (Sura 2:149).

And still in another verse, the same command is rendered thus: We see the turning of thy face [for guidance] to the heavens: now shall we turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the direction of the sacred mosque: whenever ye are, turn your faces in that direction (Sura 2:144)

Where does it say Muslim face the sun as you claim in these verses?
You just proved yourself a liar.

thatsleepboy1:
Antichristian I mentioned you before and you didn't reply. This is your last chance or else I don't want to see you on christian threads saying rubbish.

Come and defend your moloch that you bow down towards the east to worship.

Your Christian Bible is full of fables too. In fact I am yet to encounter a religion that is not full of fables.

LordReed:


Your Christian Bible is full of fables too. In fact I am yet to encounter a religion that is not full of fables.

Come with proof biko as I've done above and I'll still be doing, is it the 72 virgins in Aljana or the one that koran said that all Muslims will first go to hell before they'll be shipped on a thin thread to aljana

A
kind of fiery obstacle course. We shall see on that day how you will scale
through a thread like a sirat. While verse 72 hints of a possible rescue
operation from the fire, other suras hold out no such hope, Sura 6:128,
11:105-107, 14:16-17, 32:20, etc. So how certain is an Islamic rescue
when the creator of the universe ñ the God of the Bible - declares that
those who go to Hell will stay there forever?
The Koran states that Hell has seven gates (Sura 15:44) with
nineteen angels guarding them (Sura 74:30-31). The Islamic Hell is a
ghastly rather than a ghostly place. It represents an extension and
amplification of all the worst physical horrors imaginable in this life.
Since sensuality characterizes Islam, inmates of Hell are assured of a
constant though horrible meal of it:
They will eat to their satisfaction from a tree called Zaqqum
that springs form the bottom of Hell (Sura 37:62-66).
Another source of bitter food is the plant Dhari which neither
nourishes nor satisfies (Sura 88:6-7).
Occupants of Islamic Hell will not suffer thirst. There will be
an abundance of boiling water and other equally unpleasant beverages (Sura 37:67).
Feeding of inmates should not be misconstrued to mean mercy on
the part of Allah. The meal may be intended to enable them to have the strength to withstand the terrible agony they will suffer as inmates are:ñ dragged into blazing fire immediately (Sura 37:68) have their skin roasted and renewed (Sura 4:56)
made to taste boiling fluid, fluid dark, murky and intensely
cold (Sura 38:57)
served either intensely cold or boiling fluid (Sura 78:21-25)
made to endure a blast of fire, boiling water, shade of black
smokes (Sura 56:4-44)
weighed down with burning chains and beaten with iron
clubs (Sura 14:49-50; 22:19-22)
clothed with garment of fire (Sura 22:19-22)
neither to die nor to live (Sura 20:74; 87:13)
forced into the fire each time they try to get away (Sura
32:20)
Mental anguish intensifies the physical pain. No peace here, only interminable wrangling and mutual recrimination (Sura 40:47-50).
Relief in death is denied the damned, even in the face of remorse (Sura
60:25-29). Surat Qaf paints a mind boggling conversation between Hell
and Allah. Allah asks, Hell, are you filled up? The answer comes back,
Are there any more? (Sura 50:30).
The perfect hatred of Allah toward Jews and Christians comes to the
fore again when inmates are distributed among the seven compartments
of Hell. These allocations are an interesting sidelight into the Muslim
tendency to demonize their opponents.
Jahannam (Gehenna) for sinners who failed to repent before
death is the commonest (mentioned 77 times in the Koran).
Laza, the place where Christians will languish (Sura 70:15).
Hutama, the region where Jews will be tortured (Sura 104:5).
Sair, the abode of demons
. Jahim, a place where pagans burn (Sura 40:7)
Saqar, the chamber prepared for Zoroastrians (Sura 74:27)
Hawiya, dwelling place for hypocrites (Sura 101:9).
Punishment in Islamic Hell is under angelic supervision, but there is
a striking exemption muhammads uncle, Abu Lahab, who happened to be a bitter foe gets special treatment. In five verses of the Sura titled
Lahab (Sura 111), Muhammad (sorry, I mean to say allah) draws a
vengeful scenario: Abu Lahab is to burn in perpetuity. His wretched wife
(no angels this time) supplies the fagots to keep the inferno going. The
Koran falls just short of creating a special compartment for this unfortunate fellow. Islamic tradition paints a picture of additional Hellish
horrors, just in case the foregoing images were not frightening enough.
One Hadith sketches a scientific absurdity: that Allah ordered the fire to burn 1,000 years till it turned red, then another 1,000 years till it
turned white, and a further 1,000 years till it turned black, supposedly
its present color. When the fire complained that it was being consumed, allah gave it two natures ñ molten hot in summer, and freezing cold in
winter. But that is not what the God of the Bible says Hell is like. There
are many references, here are two:
Mat 13:49-50 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels
shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be
wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Rev 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of
God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his
indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever.

where wine and women will be plenty and you can decide to divorce the 72 virgins and order for fresh ones? Or the jinns that peeped into heaven and was chased back or when muhammed's daughter fatima asked her father about her place in the hereafter and he said he doesn't know where he was going to

“Say: I am no bringer of newfangled doctrine among the
apostles, nor do I know what will be done with me or you. I
follow but that which is revealed to me by inspiration; I am but
a warner open and clear” (Sura 46, Al-Ahqaf, Verse 9).

and

our Lord JESUS CHRIST had a
much better answer when Thomas asked Him a similar question:
Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know
the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the father but by me (John 14:5,6).

or where mohammed admitted that he had contacts with demons?. Or mohammed hiring assassins to kill his enemies and saying allah sent him ( he obviously did cos he's an Idol just as OGUN, SANGO, OBATALA, ORUNMILA is cos these latter are more revered and better than allah.)

You can't even read half of what I wrote cos appolyon and moloch are really doing wonders in y'all's life.

AntiChristian:


Jinns are creatures like humans. We can't see them. Some are righteous while others are not. Where did i say they turn in to human? They can possess human or carry their shape/form.


Where does it say Muslim face the sun as you claim in these verses?
You just proved yourself a liar.

You keep decieving yourself, I've showed you the verses and explain them and you've curved away from it and btw, the jinns that are unseen humans, how come did allah create unseen humans like you. This your delusion is too much just as your alfas summon them for rituals. Ewwwe

thatsleepboy1:


Come with proof biko as I've done above and I'll still be doing, is it the 72 virgins in Aljana or the one that koran said that all Muslims will first go to hell before they'll be shipped on a thin thread to aljana where wine and women will be plenty and you can decide to divorce the 72 virgins and order for fresh ones? Or the jinns that peeped into heaven and was chased back or when muhammed's daughter fatima asked her father about her place in the hereafter and he said he doesn't know where he was going to and or where mohammed admitted that he had contacts with demons?. Or mohammed hiring assassins to kill his enemies and saying allah sent him ( he obviously did cos he's an Idol just as OGUN, SANGO, OBATALA, ORUNMILA is cos these latter are more revered and better than allah.)

You can't even read half of what I wrote cos appolyon and moloch are really doing wonders in y'all's life.

Is it the stories of turning water to wine or multiplying bread and fish that you believe are true? Or is it how a person lived in a fish for 3 days and was spat unto land? Or is it a global flood that was survived by 8 people in a wooden boat with 2 of all the animals in the world? Which of these would you like to show me evidence of?

thatsleepboy1:


You keep decieving yourself, I've showed you the verses and explain them and you've curved away from it and btw, the jinns that are unseen humans, how come did allah create unseen humans like you. This your delusion is too much just as your alfas summon them for rituals. Ewwwe

Abeg how old are you that you are this childish? You said we worship the sun without proof! You are a liar!

Where did i say Jinns are humans? Does saying a Jinn is like a human mean a Jinn is a human?

Go back and learn comparison; use of "as" and "like" in sentences.

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Make una no do eye like una no see this...

1000angstroms:

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Make una no do eye like una no see this...

Why the mention?

All Scriptures are from above and are good for Learning.

AntiChristian:


Jinns are creatures like humans. We can't see them. Some are righteous while others are not. Where did i say they turn in to human? They can possess human or carry their shape/form. Where does it say Muslim face the sun as you claim in these verses?
You just proved yourself a liar.

G-D forbid me to be in the same place with demons. Even the koran said they peeped through into heaven and they didn't even get close to heaven and tell me how righteous they are?


Lol. Stop being sensible by half, i gave you the suras where it was mentioned and told you to explain them and you refused and you're still running around or do you want me to explain the suras for you?

LordReed:


Is it the stories of turning water to wine or multiplying bread and fish that you believe are true? Or is it how a person lived in a fish for 3 days and was spat unto land? Or is it a global flood that was survived by 8 people in a wooden boat with 2 of all the animals in the world? Which of these would you like to show me evidence of?

Even mohamed didn't come close, what he converted was pple's wives and properties that's why he died of poison by a Jewish woman.

Ignoramus, abeg bring the verses and not just half cos I know the power of G-D and it happened in the biblical days and I wholly believe they happened.

thatsleepboy1:


Even mohamed didn't come close, what he converted was pple's wives and properties that's why he died of poison by a Jewish woman.

Ignoramus, abeg bring the verses and not just half cos I know the power of G-D and it happened in the biblical days and I wholly believe they happened.

Dundee United. Where is the evidence?

orisa37:
All Scriptures are from above and are good for Learning.

Oga don't bring that here cos koran is full of fabbles to the extent some of the verses are from PIRKE RABBI ELIEZER go and read it pls. Then God sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show
him how to hide the shame [corpse] of his brother (Sura 5:34).

Sura 5:34 quoted above is similar to stories in a Jewish book of fables, where it is recorded that Adam wept for Abel and did not know what to do with his corpse until he saw a raven scratch the ground and bury its dead companion (Pirke Rabbi Eliezer, chapter 21).

In the Koran, it is Cain who saw the raven and in the Jewish book
of fables, it is Adam. Apart from that slight difference; the weird
similarity between the two narratives cannot be overlooked. Since the
Jewish book predates the Koran, it appears that Muhammad (with the
aid of his secretaries) plagiarized the story and made a convenient
adjustment that would fit his divine revelation. This conclusion is
reinforced when we consider the very next verse in the Koran:
On that account: we ordained for the children of Israel that if
any man slew a person ñ unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land ñ it would be as if he slew the whole
people and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the
life of the whole people (Sura 5:35)
At first glance, this verse seems to have no link with the preceding story.
Why the life or death of one should be as the salvation or destruction of all mankind is unclear. But when we turn to another Jewish book of
folklore we find a similar tale. We read the following in the Mishnah
translated by H. Danby:
We find it is said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother:
The voice of thy brotherís blood criethí (Genesis 4:10). It is not
said here blood in the singular but blood in the plural, that is,
his own blood and the blood of his seed. Man was created
single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual
it shall be reckoned that he has slain that whole race, but to him
who preserves the life of a single individual, it is counted that
he hath preserved the whole race. (Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5).


In the reasoning of the Jewish rabbi who wrote these words, the use
of the plural blood in the Bible indicates not only the blood of one man
but that of his whole progeny. Whether the Rabbi's speculative interpretation is right or not, is not the issue. The issue is this: why should a
koran that is alleged to have been revealed by allah contain a corrupted
restatement of an existing rabbinical interpretation of a Biblical passage?
The Koranic story of Abraham is patterned after the Biblical account,
but when it digresses, the departure can usually be traced to Jewish
fables.

For instance, the Koran narrates a story about Abrahamís father
and his idolatrous community. According to the Koran, Abraham (the
monotheist) is alleged to have destroyed all the idols except the chief
one. When questioned as to who broke the idols, he mockingly told them
to inquire from the spared idol as to what happened to the rest. This
made the mob angry and they supposedly threw Abraham into burning
fire, but allah made the fire cool and rescued him from their evil plot.
This story is recorded in Sura 21, Al-Anbiya, 51-70. As expected, that is
a story with striking similarities to one recorded in Jewish folklore.
Incidentally, this fable was built around a mistranslation of a
Hebrew word in Genesis 15:7. A Jewish scribe by the name Jonathan
Ben Uzziel mistook Ur for Or (meaning fire), and rendered the verse
I am the Lord who brought you out of the fire of the Chaldeans.

1000angstroms:
Make una no do eye like una no see this...

Them don blind cos this one strong pass them. I don bring concrete evidence, they don run, even antichristian wey mumu pass all of them.

LordReed:


Dundee United. Where is the evidence?

Lol. Read the whole thread and read below. I'll give you history of your religion and I'll advise you to worship OGUN cos G-D will understand. Who you think your father (BIN HA RI's) regime can never be better? He went to the kaaba to visit and honor moloch and his regime can never be good.

In the face of this perceived Jewish threat, Muhammad first
unleashed some ìrevelationsî against them:
ìStrongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) will
thou find the Jews and pagans . . .î (Sura 5:85).
Though they had previously been accorded the title of ìahl ul-kitab,î
meaning people of the book, the Jews of that book were now targeted
for Jihad (sura 9:29).
Muhammad first moved against the Arabian Jews, apparently, in an
effort to cleanse Arabia of Allahís enemies. He used various means,
including pitting one Jewish clan against another and blockading their
quarters until they surrendered (reminds one of the Nazi treatment of
the Jews in the Warsaw ghetto, doesnít it.).
A month after the battle of Badr, Muhammad banished the Quinuga
Jews to Jordan (Sura 59:14-15). Nadhir Jews were forced to relinquish
their gold and weapons and then driven from their homes (Sura 59:1-7).
The properties of the deportees were shared among Muslims.
After the battle of the ditch in 627AD, Muhammad at a market
square commanded the surrendered Banu Quraiza Jews to dig trenches,
then in the trenches they had just dug, he ordered that 700 male Jews
of that clan be slaughtered, one after the other (Sura 33:26; cf. Ibn
Hishams Siratur Rasul, Part 2, pp. 75, 148). The spared widows, small
children and properties were distributed among the ìfaithfulî Muslims
as their reward for helping Allah.

Poor Hitler! His great undoing was his failure to claim divine
inspiration for his actions. If he had done so, we might even have
another major religion in Europe a Nazi version of Islam.


Muhammad himself chose the most beautiful among the widows,
Rihanah bint Amr bin Khanafa. She however refused Muhammad's offer
of marriage, preferring to be his concubine instead.
In a bid to avenge the massacre of her people, she served Muhammad a meal of goat meat poisoned with a fatal toxin that kills instantly.
Bishr bin al-Bura, one of the companions of the prophet, died on the
spot, right after swallowing a piece of the meat. Muhammad managed to spew out the one he was chewing, but traces of the toxin found its way
into his system and caused a sickness that eventually led to his death.


It is related by Ibn Saad that Muhammad sent for the Jewess and asked her, Did you poison the ewe? She said Yes. He asked, What made you do so? She answered: You had done to my people grievous damage. So I said that if you are a king, we will rid ourselves of you, and if you are a prophet, it will be revealed to you.

Some historians claim he forgave her while others say he ordered her crucifixion. That incident is the root cause of the virulent hatred the Muslims have towards the Jews. That is why Islam regards the Jews as the very
worst enemy allah has, and believes the Jews must be destroyed. Have you ever wondered why a non-Arabic nation like Iran is just as antagonistic towards Israel as the most radical Arab country? The story above is the answer. The Palestinian issue, the return of Arabís lands, all are just political window-dressing. The Palestinians have already been granted
an autonomous state. The Sinai peninsula has already been returned to Egypt. Syria would have gotten back the Golan but for her intransigence. So why is there still no sign of peace? The truth is this: Muslim throughout the world do not believe the Jewish people should be allowed to exist. Even if the Jews were to totally abandon the Holy Land
and be relocated elsewhere, that hatred would continue unabated and the conflict would go on (

Revelation: 12. 17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

figuratively foretells of this).

thatsleepboy1:


Lol. Read the whole thread and read below. I'll give you history of your religion and I'll advise you to worship OGUN cos G-D will understand. Who you think your father (BIN HA RI's) regime can never be better? He went to the kaaba to visit and honor moloch and his regime can never be good.

I said you're a dundee, who told you I am a Muslim?

LordReed:


I said you're a dundee, who told you I am a Muslim?

Lol. You no longer a Muslim but an allah worshipper or an atheist?

Mtcheeeeeeeew!! The truth is in front of you, embrace it bikọ.