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Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by abokimallam: 6:13pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
I thought Gov Wiked was among the southern Governors that said the president must come from south in 2023. So he did not believe in the statement he signed, but just playing to the gallery. Wike wants to be Vice President to Fulani Tambuwal. Fulani that’s destroying Nigeria. Traitor. 2 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Hashabiah: 6:14pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Chukazu:Oga, both parties have very corrupt people so let us look beyond them. Left to me, the military should take over this country and put an end to the nonsense these politicians are doing |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Hashabiah: 6:19pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
idanone:There are other parties biko . In fact , we need people who have never been in PDP or APC to take over this country. But left to me , I would prefer the military to take over and end the nonsense politicians are doing |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Tareq1105: 6:31pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Xscape1993: So what is Papa Deceiving Pikin? A political party? Never again to a party that's known to be a Tax Collector. It's convenient for Wike to say he doesn't believe in zoning now just bcoz he wants to vice Tambuwal. Who told him Tambuwal will pick him as running mate? Why would Wike accept defeat and concur that Tambuwal is better than him? Inferiority complex? Or fear of Fulanis? The permutations will fall. Tambuwal hasn't done 30% of what Wike did in Rivers. We're following. 3 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by slivertongue: 6:45pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
seunmsg: Same was said of GMB |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by malakaimoscondo: 6:59pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
UTILITYMAY:they have the mental prowess to pilot the affairs of this country but what about the grass root followers who are larger numbers of the voters ... remember this chunks votes for popular candidate regardless of what he has to offer.. if pdp must wrestle power from apc, then an Igbo man can not be it flagbearer |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Funmisurge(m): 7:29pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
UTILITYMAY: Their leadership approach to governance is zero and unity in their zone is a broken shatter bottle. They talks much more than action. 3 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Coolgent(m): 7:34pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Xscape1993:God bless. As a Northerners... we have already tested our bitter medicine, no sane person will ever vote for APC aka satanic party again. Infact Nigerians should protest against spending billions of dollars to connect Nigeria with Niger Republic via railway, to what economic benefits? An average Nigerien hate Nigerians like plaque! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Chukazu: 7:49pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Hashabiah: Once you talk of looking beyond APC and PDP then I know it's a joke. The next president will come from either of the two, so you keep dreaming 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Hashabiah: 7:59pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Chukazu:Must it be always PDP and APC ? Oga, throw away your tunnel vision before it kills you there |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by UTILITYMAY(m): 8:16pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
rickyrex: If that is the case, they should hold their peace and support the popular candidate the South West would present and make it a win win for the South in general. Why are they so bittered against the South West? 2 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by johbara: 8:23pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
UTILITYMAY:The south easterners you just mentioned are not very sellable and do not have the the requisite clout/means to win. Plus the south easterners are playing politics not to win, but playing not to loose. 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by UTILITYMAY(m): 8:28pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
johbara: So who are the sellable ones? They should present them and start campaigning for them. They should stop demonizing the South West as if we are their problem. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Chukazu: 9:22pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Hashabiah: You don't need ask me , bring your alternative or keep hallucinating on your death rope 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by warlordd(m): 9:46pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Xscape1993:Stop confusing yourself! There is no difference between Pdp and Apc. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Ngorbungor(m): 10:59pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
UTILITYMAY: "Sellable" You mean how you guys repackaged Buhari, in 2015 . It can never work this time, try and see, as it stands now Atiku is still the best and sure bet to Aso-Rock, with Over 12 million vote in 2019 in a contest with a fellow Northerner , just imagine him having half of the North with him + South East and South South votes...... He is unbeatable if PDP fields him as their presidential candidate. |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Xscape1993(m): 11:10pm On Nov 20, 2021 |
Coolgent:You will live long dear. 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by rickyrex(m): 12:15am On Nov 21, 2021 |
UTILITYMAY:the ideology in politics been played in the south is different from the north. Northners play a single interest politics why south play a divisional politics. How do I mean? Northners speaks one language irrespective of different party they concluded on one table but south speak different languages and politucal party is divided across the south. 8 pdp governors and 8 Apc and 1 anambra apga. Of which apga is indirectly pdp. You can't expect all pdp candidate to leave their presidential candidate and vote for Apc cause his from the south. This system would have played better if it were those days pdp control large amount of the states but it can't be like that now cause both parties has places they are controlling now. South will be a hard factors for someone like buhari cause there's no form of unity |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by jamesversion: 5:33am On Nov 21, 2021 |
seunmsg: Will Tinubu be president?? |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Coolgent(m): 6:03am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Xscape1993:Amin 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Deadlytruth(m): 7:02am On Nov 21, 2021 |
specialmati:So you really believe that Nigeria is like the US and other advanced countries where people vote based on concrete socioeconomic issues and antecedents? If so, why did Nigerian vote against a clean and accomplished public servant in 1999 in preference for Obasanjo who had a huge historical moral baggage for being part and parcel of the militaristic establishment which had caused suffering in the land for 33 years and the same Obasanjo even mocked mockery of the struggle to end military rule? Also, why did they vote for Obasanjo again in 2003 with his first term performance record of genocides in Odi and Zakibiam amidst escalating commodity prices coupled with general hardship and incessant increase in petroleum products pump prices? You seem to overrate the Nigerian electorate. E go shock you. 2 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Deadlytruth(m): 7:14am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Hashabiah:That was how Ifeajuna et al "wanted" to end the nonsense that the politicians were doing and ended up causing a cascade of crisis which led to a war which cost over 3 million innocent civilian lives and the institutionalization of corruption and national decay.......thus a result far worse than the so-called nonsense of the politicians and till today Nigeria is yet to be healed of the scars of that rather ill-advised decision of those naive youthful army officers. So you want another round of 33 year derailment from this democratic path? You think when military takes over now, they will just one day return power to civilians on their own? 3 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Hashabiah: 7:31am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Deadlytruth:Oga, democracy is not meant for the black man because he doesn't have a sense of fairness ,justice and honor . The politicans we have now have killed more people than any military regime out there. As it stands now , our nation is suffering greatly from insecurity, poverty, tribalism, marginalization and extreme corruption . These problems were not so much during the military era because there was just only one constituted authority: the dictator . But now, we have the whole nation being run by psychopaths who would do anything to remain in power . And you want us to continue along that line ...? Mthcwww |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Deadlytruth(m): 10:23am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Hashabiah: And you comfortably forgot that this present democracy, which in your opinion has failed and killed many people, has been largely run by the same military. What we had in 1999 was simply an extension of military rule with the actors changing attire from kakhi to either agbada or suits. Pray tell me where Obasanjo and Atiku the pioneers of this democracy came from if not the military establishment. The Yaradua who succeeded Obasanjo was from what kind of family? Obasanjo favoured him because he was a younger brother to his colleagues in the army. What about David Mark who led the most important institution of democracy for eight years? You think he had been a pure civilian all before then? What of the presently incumbent Buhari? Jonathan's clinching of power was accidental so I left him off mention. The period about which majority of Nigerians unanimously agree that we had a genuine semblance of good governance was from 1960 to 1966 which was when we were governed by pure civilians and politicians 100%. 2 Likes |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Hashabiah: 10:32am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Deadlytruth:Just wait a minute here : the people you mentioned are soldiers , no doubt about that . But as it stands now , democracy is not working for Nigeria . As we speak, our politicans are well aware that the democratic system permits all the necessary parties involved to come to an agreement , and this can easily be manipulated within the context of law by employing lawyers and the media who will rant and paint an ugly story to the public that " democracy and fundamental human rights are being trampled on ". In fact, it is a loophole in democracy, and it is the reason why banditry, herdsmen attack and corruption are still thriving. For example, the insecurity situation in Borno has been on for more than a decade, and this is because some political actors are spearheading and funding it . And if you probe, you will meet litigations that are upheld by the idiotic democratic institutions. To make matters worse , they are enjoying immunity under democracy because of the laws embedded in democracy. Or what shall we say about Hijya Umar Farooq , who was given a ministerial position after siphoning funds meant for IDPs? Or what about Orji Uzor Kalu , who looted his state and yet is a serving senator in the red chambers...? During the military regime , who born dem well ? Tell me , who born dem ....? My brother , let us not deceive ourselves: democracy is not meant for us in Nigeria |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by oyatz(m): 11:04am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Asgard73: You never disappoint, this has nothing to do with Yorubas but I know you will bring Yoruba into the matter. 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Asgard73: 11:08am On Nov 21, 2021 |
oyatz: Good morning bro |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by oyatz(m): 11:09am On Nov 21, 2021 |
GardenOfGod: And this candidate has no names, 14 months to the election? |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by oyatz(m): 11:11am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Asgard73: But Tinubu is not in PDP sir. The topic is about presidential candidate of the PDP. 1 Like |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by oyatz(m): 11:18am On Nov 21, 2021 |
usmexy1: But why? |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Asgard73: 11:28am On Nov 21, 2021 |
oyatz: He’s contesting for president.. Yoruba people said he’s contesting in his presence and he didn’t deny Fashola said we wait for January... Beside your Yoruba people turned the thread to Apc |
Re: How PDP Presidential Candidate Will Emerge – Wike, Fintiri by Deadlytruth(m): 11:35am On Nov 21, 2021 |
Hashabiah: You have forgotten the Maitatsine movement which ravaged Nigeria all through the times of supposed military behemoths like Gowon, Murtala Mohammed and Obasanjo save Shagari the pure civilian in whose regime the head of the movement was caught and finished off. But then reared its ugly head again under IBB another military behemoth. The democratic institutions you adjudge as idiotic on account of stalling investigations into violence were actually made idiotic in this dispensation by the military establishment which largely formed the ruling class since 1999. We all know how much Obasanjo and Atiku weakened the legislature and judiciary hence the emergence of strong men and weak institutions today. The Obasanjo who introduced bribery and corruption into the National Assembly and also signed into law the humongous allowances of the federal legislators which use such allowances to finance terrorists as you rightly deduce, was from which establishment? The same Obasanjo who publicly confessed to being aware of the existence of Boko Haram since 2002 (i.e. under his administration) but left them to fester and grow for the reason of his pursuit of political capital is of which establishment? Now ask yourself why Yaradua who had less of military credentials was the only one who could for the first and only time order soldiers and police to storm Boko Haram hideouts in Kano and wipe out over 800 of them within six hours on a particular day. Jonathan the bloody civilian fought Boko Haram better than Obasanjo the retired Army General. Didn't you ever read it in the news that Obasanjo once visited the Boko Haram leadership and gave them a gift running into millions of Naira thus further encouraging them? Which president of purely civilian background has ever done that in our history? By your accusations of Kalu and others of looting as civilian rulers, you seem to forget the $12.2bn Gulf War windfall loot which happened under IBB, the unquantifiable Abacha loot which is still being recovered till tomorrow, the, mountainous looting by Abdulsalami Abubakar within his short stay. After Nzeogwu and co had murdered Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and the rest on allegations of corruption, revelations which later came up proved those figures to have died as paupers and this still forms the basis of the North's unquenchable ill-feelings towards the Igbos and its attendant perpetual lack of national unity which is largely responsible for the tension everywhere. We must be careful the way we over exaggerate the negative activities of politicians. Where democracy is working today, e.g. the USA, UK, Germany, etc; it didn't begin to work perfectly from day one. It only got refined over time through constant amendments to the constitution to address any loopholes newly discovered at any point in time. Military intervention in politics has never progressed any country and Nigeria can't be an exception. Haiti gained independence in 1810 (just 34 years behind the US) and started with democracy but soon fell into military rule which existed there till 1994 when the US had to forcefully uproot a military regime to pave way for civilians. Because of protracted military rule which lasted in Haiti for 184 years, Haiti is so backward and almost 500 years behind the USA which it gained independence with about the same time. Till today citizens of Haiti still bath in streams and defeacate in bushes and water bodies while easily curable diseases still kill them all due to long years of military rule. Some of them still sleep on beds made of parallel alignment of naked bamboo poles. It is that bad. Military intervention in politics leads to donkey years of retrogression. 2 Likes |
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