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Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by Nobody: 7:06pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
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Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:21pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:But even to today Hazard is widely respected best compared to debruyne. Meaning that Eden hazard has always outshine debruyne.. especially in the national team |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:25pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:I don't see how you will rate Xavi as a better playmaker than Ronaldo even though Ronaldo got a higher assists than Xavi and iniesta combined. See I'm not arguing Messi here.. I'm simply saying for an attacker for Ronaldo to get a higher assists than Xavi and iniesta combined ( remember they started football before him) I don't see why you will rate him better in assist than Ronaldo. |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:27pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:I don't see how you will rate Xavi as a better playmaker than Ronaldo even though Ronaldo got a higher assists than Xavi and iniesta combined. See I'm not arguing Messi here.. I'm simply saying for an attacker for Ronaldo to get a higher assists than Xavi and iniesta combined ( remember they started football before him) I don't see why you will rate him better in assist than Ronaldo. Check the assists stats...Ronaldo has a higher assists than Xavi and iniesta combined for an attacker and yet you rate Xavi and iniesta a better playmaker than Ronaldo. That's preposterous! Stats don't lie!! |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by paulolee(m): 7:35pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:its simply bcoz xavi n iniesta aint dt kinda attacking midfield like KDB, pogba n Fernandez, they play d pass n wait style n hardly bomb or go for goal jus like pirlo of milan dt year.. dier work is to read games n dts why its called playmaking.. a striker may get more goals n assist just like benzema n sallah dis season bt it doesnt make dm d play maker in dier team.. playmaker simple read games n the whole game evolved around DM n dts wat d likes of kroos n modric are at madrid, without them benzema wont get any goal or assit n madrid will suffer... its not a most dt a playmaker most av a lot of assist bcox not all of of them are attacking midfielder dt stays around d box to lay assist..dts my opinion though |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by paulolee(m): 7:38pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:I CNT compare both bcoz they dnt play same position...harzard will b widely respected than KDB bcox harzard has paid his dues in gold with Chelsea n Belgium wen he was at his peak.. no matter d bad form of hazard, his doinz must speak for him simply bcox he spent a very long time on d top n kdb is still paying his dues.. just like d way we cnt compare sallah, mane or any African attacker with d like of drogba or eto bcox those legends av paid dier dues |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by paulolee(m): 7:41pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
DesChyko:lewa being d best Player can b argued bcox of his goal scoring abilities...it doesn't concern dt of kdb n Fernandez bcoz kdb beat him in all aspects hands down.. Fernandez n even Jorginho is no match foe kdb |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:42pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:but both are still playing. I think that's the difference. I think it is just 1 or 2 years hazard senior Kevin. But nevertheless hazard has always bettered him. Even when hazard was in PL . If you watched the 2018 world cup. You be able to see it, Kevin was no where to be found while hazard was the main the main |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by uunwanaobong3: 7:42pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
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Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:44pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:Ok then. Cause me have always reason that a playmaker should have a higher assists ratio than the strike because a strike first point of call is to score. He doesn't really care that much about assists |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by paulolee(m): 7:44pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
Babatunde7109:I beg to disagree bros...were was Fernandez before united signed him if he was dt good? why is it dt no club bid for him or is currently bidding to snap him if he is dt good? bros no matter d team ur Fernandez enter, he cnt perform to d level of kdb... ur Fernandez gat less creativity In comparing to kdb I no even see anything wey e take reach kdb apart from.penalty goals...my opinion shaa |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by paulolee(m): 7:52pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
ifiokjohn:no b by years bro..na by wen u reach form...harzard don dey top level football long enough before KDB start to get mouth... |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 7:54pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee:True shall. |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by uunwanaobong3: 8:17pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
ifiokjohn: Listen, young man, hazard was respected because he was at Chelsea, and believe Chelsea fans and pundit make a lot of noise about their players just as they are doing with jorginho(average player), their noises help to change people view about their average players. Think of it, debruyne has won premeir league 4 times and yet he has only won premeir league best once despite the fact that he was the best player in mancity and in EPL... Do u think that mancity won those leagues by chance? No.. debruyne was instrumental in winning those cups but he was never appreciated, he broke the highest assist records but yet he was never appreciated just like David silva( the best player ever to play in EPL), yaya toure(the best box to box midfielder I have ever seen), aguero( the best fox in the box striker I have ever seen) and company( a great leader of men), these great legend never won EPL best and yet they were winning EPL title on multiple occasions, then someone like Suarez, bale, van Dirk and Salah were winning EPL best despite winning EPL title once between all of them. Mancity players are always under rated by EPL, UEFA, and FIFA because the voting pattern is political and the traditional top clubs has political influence over everything in football. As for Belgium national team, I will beg you to go and watch 2018 world cup, euro 2021 and Europa Nation league carefully then come back and argue with me who was the best Belgium player interns of assist, passes completed, passes that lead to goal and chances created..... When we watch football now, we terned to value goals more than the actual football itself...... Debruyne is a footballer and not a goal scorer, that is why MESSI is better than cr7, ..... In terms of complete footballing, debruyne is far far better than hazard but in terms of individualistic and stylish fantasy play, hazard just like neyma reign supreme. Debruyne was more important to Belgium national team in 2018 till now than hazard. Because hazard is a show boy and a media darling But debruyne is a silent footballer, an engine room who connect all the dots together, without debruyne artistic and vision, hazard will not have any room to dance around and play his individualistic selfish football. |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 8:19pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
uunwanaobong3:Ok let's leave club football and go to national team. Why is Hazard more appreciated amongst Belgains than Debruyne? |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by uunwanaobong3: 8:29pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
paulolee: Fernandez may not be ass creative as debruyne, yes.... But have you ever heard of a midfielder who scored 45 league goals in one season?.... That was the level that Fernandez was operating at sporting Lisbon before going to man utd and kill his talent. About which club wanted to sign Fernandez " mancity, real Madrid, Juventus, Liverpool and Barcelona wanted to sign him BUT as always, man utd splash more money than everyone else to sign him.... So Fernandez went to man utd because of money than for footballing reason |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by uunwanaobong3: 8:46pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
ifiokjohn: The same thing that makes u love hazard and neyma is the same thing that make Belgium fans love hazard...,.. have you ever ask yourself how many times debruyne came out to praise himself after a successful match? None, but hazard has done that multiple times...... While debruyne is shying away from press conference and praising the team effort,.. hazard does press conference all the time and praise himself. ... Hazard just like neyma want to dribble everyone on the pitch before scoring a balloon dor goal, despite the fact that he would would have score it simple to help the team progress, because of his obsession with stylish world class goals, he end up missing chances thereby frustrating his country chances of progress, BUT debruyne keep it simple, feeding hazard constantly with all the passes which the fans can not see because the passes are not stylish...... But 80% of the team work are on debruyne shoulder and yet he is not appropriated because he is not stylish and exciting...... I will advise you to learn how to watch football deeper and tactically, and then u will understand better. ..... This is one of the reason why guardiola is the best coach in the world. If I tell you that Bernardo silva of mancity currently is the best player in the world, you will laugh..... But those who know knows.... Take out Bernardo then u can easily win mancity |
Re: De Bruyne Beats Fernandes, Messi To IFFHS World's Best Playmaker Title by ifiokjohn(m): 10:17pm On Nov 29, 2021 |
uunwanaobong3:Ok |
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