Rollsnjaguar:


Yes, I can't deny the fact that he formed ESN. But their responsibility was well spelt out.

To checkmate the herdsmen who before now have been killing farmers both young and old.

But let me also remind you that there are some group of people that are into

1. Kidnapping for Ramson
2. There are cultists who also engage in various forms of criminality
3. There are also political thugs who work for various parties to intimidate their opponent.
4. There are also aggrieved members of the traditional institution who may also be eyeing that throne.

So I and you cannot just conclude without any investigation that all the killings in south east are done by Nnamdi Kanu boys.

To me is not logical, before Nnamdi Kanu, crime has existed and if nothing is done about it. It may continue.

What is spelt out is to deceive the general public their main aim and objectives is spelt out in their criminal actions which is to take over Igboland by force.

paramakina202:


What is spelt out is to deceive the general public their main aim and objectives is spelt out in their criminal actions which is to take over Igboland by force.

Can you confidently rule out any of this group I mentioned
1. Kidnapping for Ramson
2. There are cultists who also engage in various forms of criminality
3. There are also political thugs who work for various parties to intimidate their opponent.
4. There are also aggrieved members of the traditional institution who may also be eyeing that throne.

Rollsnjaguar:


Can you confidently rule out any of this group I mentioned
1. Kidnapping for Ramson
2. There are cultists who also engage in various forms of criminality
3. There are also political thugs who work for various parties to intimidate their opponent.
4. There are also aggrieved members of the traditional institution who may also be eyeing that throne.

Na cultist dey kill security agents and collect their guns abi,Na kidnappers dey raid and destroy police stations accross Igboland abi?

paramakina202:


Na cultist dey kill security agents and collect their guns abi,Na kidnappers dey raid and destroy police stations accross Igboland abi?

You are still not getting the point, initially the Governors where also saying it was IPOB but later from their own intel, they came to understand there are other political actors.

Just like what happened in Anambra before the election. There where killings everywhere which where obviously political.

But immediately after the election everything cease.

Is left for the security agencies to do thorough investigation and information gathering to unravel the truth and faces behind all these.

Is premature without any high level investigation to stay on social media and say is IPOB or herdsmen or any other groups.

That's my point.

Rollsnjaguar:


You are still not getting the point, initially the Governors where also saying it was IPOB but later from their own intel, they came to understand there are other political actors.

Just like what happened in Anambra before the election. There where killings everywhere which where obviously political.

But immediately after the election everything cease.

Is left for the security agencies to do thorough investigation and information gathering to unravel the truth and faces behind all these.

Is premature without any high level investigation to stay on social media and say is IPOB or herdsmen or any other groups.

That's my point.

Federal government has said it time without number that IPOB is behind the killings including the recent beheading of two police officers.
So who else suppose to do the investigation if not FG?

paramakina202:


Federal government has said it time without number that IPOB is behind the killings including the recent beheading of two police officers.
So who else suppose to do the investigation if not FG?

Those are just media statement and assumptions, have they made arrest.
Is any of the killers caught yet?
Is there any trial going on the killings?

During Jonathan regime, some groups in Niger Delta MEND carried out bombing and they were arrested and tried. Everybody saw it and we believed it.

But in this case, we have not seen any serious trials going on to show that government has caught those responsible.

All we have been reading is press statement.

Rollsnjaguar:


Those are just media statement and assumptions, have they made arrest.
Is any of the killers caught yet?
Is there any trial going on the killings?

During Jonathan regime, some groups in Niger Delta MEND carried out bombing and they were arrested and tried. Everybody saw it and we believed it.

But in this case, we have not seen any serious trials going on to show that government has caught those responsible.

All we have been reading is press statement.

So many captured ESN are going through trial including their commander in chief Mazi Nnamdi Kanu.

paramakina202:


So many captured ESN are going through trial including their commander in chief Mazi Nnamdi Kanu.

I know of Kanu's case, but have NEVER read or heard of any ESN member on trial for the killings you are talking about.
Unless you want to tell me they are been tried for something else.

The security agencies need to up their game, that's the fact.
Not just picking random guys and tagging them IPOB then dump them in various prison without trial or conviction.