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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Dikaveli(m): 12:08am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

This fight ought to have started with Arik Air and Medview.

Air Peace is just benefitting now

Tribalism has eaten deep in your mind

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:08am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other
By default airpeace is at a disadvantage being that emirates is 38 years old, well funded and a legacy carrier with a base airport (DXB) offering connections to more than 100 cities. Airpeace is a startup trying to grow. Asking them to operate from two different airports will make it more difficult for them than it already is. UAE along with emirates should find a way to accommodate their request. It is wrong to say there is no slot when emirates has made a lot of money from the nigerian route over the years. It is very difficult to succeed as an african individual or company as many impediments are already in place.

On the other hand airpeace should be bold enough to run an efficient and structured organization that will see them grow sustainably. There are too many complaints over lack of corporate structure and how things are done anyhow from recruitment to reassignment of personnel to corporate governance.

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:11am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

This fight ought to have started with Arik Air and Medview.

Air Peace is just benefitting now
Unfortunately. Arik and medview were termed weak. Arik was one of the best airlines nigeria had but FG did not stand by it when it ought to have

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:16am On Dec 13, 2021
MelesZenawi:


Jonathan is a clueless weakling.

Buhari is far much better than him.
Not about buhari or GEJ. Buhari has a minister of aviation who is very knowledgeable of the challenges . Although he was also very unhappy with the nigerian airlines as to him airline operation is serious business requiring serious cash thus running one-man business airlines were a turn off for him. In fact in his words Nigerians are very mobile people and deserve better than the 20 year old aircrafts being given to them by nigerian airlines. But going by the investments airpeace is making it would have been unfair of him to watch them operate once a week while emirates operate 21 flights a week

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:20am On Dec 13, 2021
Dshocker:
The truth is that 80% of people going to UAE flies Air Peace and coming back they still use Air Peace....Emirates is fighting to get back their customers
Not really emirates is still king of that route but airpeace is trying and can do better if supported by the government /nigerian people. Emirates has more money and with cash can do/undo

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:24am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

Nope.

It was given, but Air Peace rejected.

That you're just being aware now doesn't mean it's not been there.

Try to follow the story very well.

Air Peace started with Sharjah before the pandemic.

At some point, they started using Dubai, by abandoning Sharjah. While they left, Sharjah allocated slots to other airlines.

Air peace returned and Sharjah says, while you're away, things have changed. Take one here and take two in other locations.

Air Peace rejected and reported to Minister and NCAA. The Minister chose to stand with Air Peace, hence retaliated.

That's the Genesis
Not true. Airpeace has never operated into dubai. It has been sharjah from day 1 till covid lockdown came

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:25am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:


I think they did.

May be not for long, but they did.

The man that wrote the letter is the head of all Airports in UAE and just as our NCAA here monitors all landing and take off at all Airports in Nigeria, the man does same in UAE.
They never operated into DXB. All their flights were into sharjah.

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 12:27am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

We now have two versions

Air Peace says it black
The head of the Civil Aviation Authority in UAE says it's White

More investigations needed.

During Repatriation, I guess Air Peace landed in Dubai to pick Nigerians home. This may be what the UAE man is referring to.

Once again, subject to probability
All repatriation flights airpeace operated took place from sharjah.

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by zoomzoom(m): 12:45am On Dec 13, 2021
[quote author=davodyguy post=108443633]But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other..



Guy,there's MORE at stake here and you don't gerrit!!!.

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by ShenTeh(m): 1:00am On Dec 13, 2021
leighcon:
Bad righting for real.


Fixed. Thank ne no thanks.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by dasparrow: 1:48am On Dec 13, 2021
I am tired of reading all this wahala between Emirates and Nigeria government. They should sort themselves out.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by wiseoneking: 2:22am On Dec 13, 2021
MelesZenawi:
Buhari is indeed doing great.

Patriotism at its peak by President Buhari.

He made sure Nigeria is given fair share outside.

Emirates will be enjoying red carpet in Nigeria while denying Nigeria airline such in their own country.

Kudos to the minister of aviation.
You definitely do not know anything. Buhari and his cohorts are punishing Nigerians the more because we are loosing. Ghana in this case would gain more in this ruffled waters. Yes, Nigerians with valid visa to Emirates would still travel through Ghana to Dubai. You guys don't have Brain to think outside the box. Moreover, this is a far more wealthier nation that doesn't give a dam to Nigeria. Nigerian wealths stolen are stached in their country and they are using to run their country. I pity you guys and Bubu
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Nobody: 2:59am On Dec 13, 2021
heniford2:
your truly useless know i understand no worry as u guys keep stabbing every Eastern business one day e go end

Unlike I said before Pray against poverty hovering around you.

Also pray for wisdom to read and understand.

You get business... Capita No.

Na poverty be your business.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by ibinaboonline: 3:28am On Dec 13, 2021
Screw this. Air Peace should get 2 slots in DXB and one in Sharjah. Am I the only one massively pissed off by this? It's quite simple, they look down on us.
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Solsix(m): 3:52am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other
See what you are saying, while not emirate landing in kano or kaduna while the passenger take transport to thier different destination
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by ebufa: 4:26am On Dec 13, 2021
tshtsh:

By default airpeace is at a disadvantage being that emirates is 38 years old, well funded and a legacy carrier with a base airport (DXB) offering connections to more than 100 cities. Airpeace is a startup trying to grow. Asking them to operate from two different airports will make it more difficult for them than it already is. UAE along with emirates should find a way to accommodate their request. It is wrong to say there is no slot when emirates has made a lot of money from the nigerian route over the years. It is very difficult to succeed as an african individual or company as many impediments are already in place.

On the other hand airpeace should be bold enough to run an efficient and structured organization that will see them grow sustainably. There are too many complaints over lack of corporate structure and how things are done anyhow from recruitment to reassignment of personnel to corporate governance.





air peace is anyhow because your country is anyhow! go and run an ordinary supermarket in nigeria and you will understand what frustration is...............air peace is trying sef!
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Nauttyprof(m): 4:27am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other

Your point holds no water at all. Emirate was given two internationally recognised airports, Abuja (North) and Lagos (South) International Airport, Air peace on the other hand was denied the Dubai International Airport which many Airlines will choose as first choice, only to be given sharjah with a clause of a choosen day and just one slot while in Nigeria, they operate from the 2 well visited international airports with 21 flights per week.

Please, let's stop being slaves to anything that comes to us outside Nigeria and begin to stand for what is right and fair without bringing into it any irrational thought.

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by iyke649(m): 4:47am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

Nope.

It was given, but Air Peace rejected.

That you're just being aware now doesn't mean it's not been there.

Try to follow the story very well.

Air Peace started with Sharjah before the pandemic.

At some point, they started using Dubai, by abandoning Sharjah. While they left, Sharjah allocated slots to other airlines.

Air peace returned and Sharjah says, while you're away, things have changed. Take one here and take two in other locations.

Air Peace rejected and reported to Minister and NCAA. The Minister chose to stand with Air Peace, hence retaliated. Do you have any evidence that Airpeace used Dubai? Cant you see from their letter that they denied it or you simply chose to believe Dubai statement over Airpeace? SMH

That's the Genesis
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by iyke649(m): 4:49am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

Nope.

It was given, but Air Peace rejected.

That you're just being aware now doesn't mean it's not been there.

Try to follow the story very well.

Air Peace started with Sharjah before the pandemic.

At some point, they started using Dubai, by abandoning Sharjah. While they left, Sharjah allocated slots to other airlines.

Air peace returned and Sharjah says, while you're away, things have changed. Take one here and take two in other locations.

Air Peace rejected and reported to Minister and NCAA. The Minister chose to stand with Air Peace, hence retaliated. Do you have any evidence that Airpeace used Dubai? Cant you see from their letter that they denied it or you simply chose to believe Dubai statement over Airpeace? SMH

That's the Genesis
Do you have any evidence that Airpeace used Dubai airport? Cant you see from their letter that they denied it or you simply chose to believe Dubai airport statement over that of Airpeace? Smh
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by TimeTraveller: 5:22am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other


Emirates can land in Kaduna. People can take train from Kaduna to Abuja. See the point?

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Perfecttouchade: 6:50am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other
they can as well move pax from one airport to the other via their fast and beautiful train transportation
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by foreshore(m): 7:03am On Dec 13, 2021
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by koning: 7:36am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:
But come to think of it.

Air Peace can take one slot in Sharjah and take the other two at Ajman.

Ajman to Dubai is like 30-45mins.

Most Northerners/Southerners come into Lagos, then visit MMA2 to board local flights to their final destinations.

UAE has better transportation infrastructure and good buses that can take people from one Emirate to the other




Following your argument, Emirates should be given a slot at Akanu Ibiam int. airport, Enugu. Yes, they should fly directly to Enugu only and the passengers can disperse from there to their various destinations.

Besides, Emirate already has plans for direct flights to Enugu.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by heniford2: 8:47am On Dec 13, 2021
MelesZenawi:


Unlike I said before Pray against poverty hovering around you.

Also pray for wisdom to read and understand.

You get business... Capita No.

Na poverty be your business.
look whose in Nigeria telling someone aside that he should pray over poverty cheesy grin your stupidity is topnorch i should be the one asking you to pray over poverty and ask 4 wisdom yeye man undecided
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by Nobody: 8:55am On Dec 13, 2021
heniford2:
look whose in Nigeria telling someone aside that he should pray over poverty cheesy grin your stupidity is topnorch i should be the one asking you to pray over poverty and ask 4 wisdom yeye man undecided



Unlike I said before Pray against poverty hovering around you.

Also pray for wisdom to read and understand.

You get business... Capita No.

Na poverty be your business.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by miqos02(m): 9:08am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:

We now have two versions

Air Peace says it black
The head of the Civil Aviation Authority in UAE says it's White

More investigations needed.

During Repatriation, I guess Air Peace landed in Dubai to pick Nigerians home. This may be what the UAE man is referring to.

Once again, subject to probability

Repatriation flights are different from regular commercial flights, air peace has challenged them to come with proofs to contradict air peace claims

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Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 9:18am On Dec 13, 2021
ebufa:






air peace is anyhow because your country is anyhow! go and run an ordinary supermarket in nigeria and you will understand what frustration is...............air peace is trying sef!
yes I get you . The operating environment is harsh which probably explains why there operations isn't properly structured. But they can do better
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by obinoral1179(m): 9:21am On Dec 13, 2021
davodyguy:


I think they did.

May be not for long, but they did.

The man that wrote the letter is the head of all Airports in UAE and just as our NCAA here monitors all landing and take off at all Airports in Nigeria, the man does same in UAE.
Air peace dropped facts the man should counter them with facts too...
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by nosiebaba(m): 9:29am On Dec 13, 2021
inoki247:
Blackman dey face alot for this world...


Shey Zamfara, Borno nd Kaduna get Airport mak d president please upgrade am to international Airport and direct only Emirate Airline flight to doz area make dem too know aw e go b...
grin
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by ebufa: 1:42pm On Dec 13, 2021
tshtsh:

yes I get you . The operating environment is harsh which probably explains why there operations isn't properly structured. But they can do better


I doubt it.......there are more than a dozen reasons why airline services appear tardy, usually manifested in cancelled or delayed flights! first reason will be lack of spares to safely service aircraft.........all spares have to be imported...I hear the customs usually delay parts due to high and unfair charges, funding and financing of operations is a big problem, for instance lack of government subsidy! it is amazing we spend billions of dollars on petroleum subsidies yet spend almost nothing in funding our airlines.........my proposal will be for the government to pay say 5000-10,000 naira per passenger carried by each airline the previous year............so if air peace carries 1 million passengers in 2021 then the government will subsidize airpeace to a tune of 10 billion naira in 2022..................the government must, however, insist that the airlines must use the money on only capital expenditure and training.
Re: UAE Official Lied, Air Peace Says As Row Over Flight Slots Deepens by tshtsh: 3:57pm On Dec 13, 2021
ebufa:



I doubt it.......there are more than a dozen reasons why airline services appear tardy, usually manifested in cancelled or delayed flights! first reason will be lack of spares to safely service aircraft.........all spares have to be imported...I hear the customs usually delay parts due to high and unfair charges, funding and financing of operations is a big problem, for instance lack of government subsidy! it is amazing we spend billions of dollars on petroleum subsidies yet spend almost nothing in funding our airlines.........my proposal will be for the government to pay say 5000-10,000 naira per passenger carried by each airline the previous year............so if air peace carries 1 million passengers in 2021 then the government will subsidize airpeace to a tune of 10 billion naira in 2022..................the government must, however, insist that the airlines must use the money on only capital expenditure and training.

So what happens to stockpiling spares ? Take $10 - $20 million and stock pile spares that way you dont have to import and wait. For instance air peace has a new generation aircraft with delivered from embraer a year ago that has been grounded for over one month now. There operations are so disrupted that they are gradually losing whatever goodwill they have/had. Passengers don't know about the issues you've outlined

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