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Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 10:04am On Jan 13, 2022
Someone pls gv me 5 reason to believe Christianity is not a scam!!!!

I have my 5 reasons already because sincerely speaking, deep down I'm so hurt.
I already gave my best to God but if seems I wasted my life and time and I'm in deep regrets.
No insults pls, pls looking forward to sincere and honest response, thus maybe it might help me build up my faith.

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Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 10:53am On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Someone pls gv me 5 reason to believe Christianity is not a scam!!!!

I have my 5 reasons already because sincerely speaking, deep down I'm so hurt.
I already gave my best to God but if seems I wasted my life and time and I'm in deep regrets.
No insults pls, pls looking forward to sincere and honest response, thus maybe it might help me build up my faith.

1)it is the Only Good Way which brings all the things which are truly Good to a person, both physically and spiritually.

2) It is the Only Way which keeps a person free from troubles.

3) It is the Only Way, which evil can not follow.

4) It is the Only Way where Enemies are crushed. They even run from you.

5) It is the Only Way where after this present living, a person will Live Again in the Original Good World and Good Living Plan which The Creator of this world and man had purposed and set for men to obtain.

All other ways are sinking sands, hold ups, traffic, war, destruction, sorrow, suffering, pain, anguish and FINALLY DEATH!
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 11:24am On Jan 13, 2022
Okay, thanks for the write-up.
If I'm to ask, people say prayer is a means of communication with God.
Then why am I not able to communicate with God, I have prayed and prayed and prayed still nothing.
And trust me, it is really frustrating.
No one to talk to for advise, even pastors dont even care about sincere believers, all they care about is offering and money.
Why is it so??

Sincerely speaking I'm truly tired, I've done my best, had to quit my source of income because it was not legit but who cares??
Now I'm suffering, trying so desperately hard to survive and there is a God who claims he loves me and is happy seeing me suffer so much.

Is this how a Christian life Is
Pls I need sincere and honest answers
Thank you
Re: Christianity by Horus(m): 12:27pm On Jan 13, 2022
Much of the Bible is based on mythology stories. Much of secular history (as we in the West know it) was falsely written and falsely rewritten for the purpose of setting up Caucasian supremacy. Much of biblical history (as we in the West know it) was intentionally mistranslated, interpolated, and tampered with to serve the same purpose, Caucasian supremacy, and some of biblical history does agree with secular history, if one knows how to compare the two, that is, if one has enough factual information to compare the two.
We must realize that when a people is trying to make themselves look bigger than others, they may take the main characters and heroes of a false or true story in religion and/or mythology and build their own story around the heroes and characters, and this means that the story may be greatly changed to suit the purpose of those rewriting it. The location, time it happened, name of characters and heroes, and the real essence of the story itself may be altered. This is why it happened in much of the Bible (Old and New Testaments) is one reason secular and biblical histories are difficult to compare, and in some instances, nearly impossible.

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Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 12:34pm On Jan 13, 2022
Horus:
Much of the Bible is based on mythology stories. Much of secular history (as we in the West know it) was falsely written and falsely rewritten for the purpose of setting up Caucasian supremacy.

The most irksome part about the ironically named mental illness called “white supremacy” is when they start talking about “western civilization” and they trace it to the Greeks.

They act as if the Greeks invented everything instead of Greek knowledge being the product of Greek intercourse with other ancient NON EUROPEAN/NON WHITE civilizations in Africa and the Levant.
Re: Christianity by TechSpecialist(m): 12:51pm On Jan 13, 2022
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Horus:
Much of the Bible is based on mythology stories. Much of secular history (as we in the West know it) was falsely written and falsely rewritten for the purpose of setting up Caucasian supremacy. Much of biblical history (as we in the West know it) was intentionally mistranslated, interpolated, and tampered with to serve the same purpose, Caucasian supremacy, and some of biblical history does agree with secular history, if one knows how to compare the two, that is, if one has enough factual information to compare the two.
We must realize that when a people is trying to make themselves look bigger than others, they may take the main characters and heroes of a false or true story in religion and/or mythology and build their own story around the heroes and characters, and this means that the story may be greatly changed to suit the purpose of those rewriting it. The location, time it happened, name of characters and heroes, and the real essence of the story itself may be altered. This is why it happened in much of the Bible (Old and New Testaments) is one reason secular and biblical histories are difficult to compare, and in some instances, nearly impossible.

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Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 12:59pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Okay, thanks for the write-up.
If I'm to ask, people say prayer is a means of communication with God.
Then why am I not able to communicate with God, I have prayed and prayed and prayed still nothing.
And trust me, it is really frustrating.
No one to talk to for advise, even pastors dont even care about sincere believers, all they care about is offering and money.
Why is it so??

Sincerely speaking I'm truly tired, I've done my best, had to quit my source of income because it was not legit but who cares??
Now I'm suffering, trying so desperately hard to survive and there is a God who claims he loves me and is happy seeing me suffer so much.

Is this how a Christian life Is
Pls I need sincere and honest answers
Thank you

Jewish people are humans like you. They bleed like you. They get ill like you. They eat, sleep, and will die, just like you.

So, what makes them special that their mythologies and fairy tales should be considered factual?

What makes you think the Jewish god adopted by Christianity is any more real than the leprechaun sitting in the corner of your room?

Don’t quit an illegitimate source of income because you’re a Christian, quit it because it violates people’s trust and dignity. Because at the end of the day, people and their condition is all that matters. All that god shit is nothing but a scam for a few to rule over the multitude who are ignorant enough to belief the scam.

Your god and all other gods are mere psychological devices meant to relieve you of your existential dread.
When you die, everything that comprises you is consumed by other living things and absorbed into the earth. There is no heaven, no hell, and no Catholic purgatory.

Live free and respect nature including people. At the end of the day, you will be absorbed into the whole like a dew drop into the shining sea. Meaning, you will die and that will be the end of it. So don’t waste your time on some ignorant nonsense called god.

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Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 1:05pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:

I already gave my best to God but if seems I wasted my life and time and I'm in deep regrets.
No insults pls, pls looking forward to sincere and honest response, thus maybe it might help me build up my faith.
I am instead willing to bet here that you lie when you claim you already gave your best to God. Instead, what you more than likely did was give your best to your Pastors and mogs, and maybe their churches believing somehow God will get His share from all of that. undecided

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Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 1:15pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
1. If I'm to ask, people say prayer is a means of communication with God. Then why am I not able to communicate with God, I have prayed and prayed and prayed still nothing. And trust me, it is really frustrating.
No one to talk to for advise, even pastors dont even care about sincere believers, all they care about is offering and money. Why is it so??

2. Sincerely speaking I'm truly tired, I've done my best, had to quit my source of income because it was not legit but who cares??
Now I'm suffering, trying so desperately hard to survive and there is a God who claims he loves me and is happy seeing me suffer so much.

3. Is this how a Christian life Is
Pls I need sincere and honest answers
Thank you
1. Obedience, not prayer, is the key to getting answers from God. If you had spent time researching God instead of listening to the many liars and deceivers out there, you would have realized this. undecided

2. If it is that you truly want to have God rule over your life, you will start by submitting to and obeying the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law and agreement in the Kingdom of God which He promised to those who will obey Him. undecided

3. Sadly, a majority of the Christians you will meet out there are like you. Misguided and misinformed about who God is and how to engage Him and follow Him in order to enjoy His promises. God didn't send Jesus Christ to die so that those who call themselves Christians can inherit the world... No, there is a different purpose from the popular narrative you have fed on from the mouth of your mogs and pastors. You can learn God's Truth by reading through the Gospels where Jesus Christ Himself teaches you this. undecided
Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 1:16pm On Jan 13, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I am instead willing to bet here that you lie when you claim you already gave your best to God. Instead, what you more than likely did was give your best to your Pastors and mogs, and maybe their churches believing somehow God will get His share from all of that. undecided

At least ask him what he means by giving his best before making assumptions.

We know you’re the ONLY TRUE Christian here but give the rest if your brethren a break!!
Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 1:17pm On Jan 13, 2022
killyaselfie:
At least ask him what he means by giving his best before making assumptions.

We know you’re the ONLY TRUE Christian here but give the rest if your brethren a break!!
I don't need to ask because I already know what the vast majority in Christiandom pretend to be of God. undecided
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 1:30pm On Jan 13, 2022
Does this mean i have to take responsibility and find a way to legitly become rich?
In the Bible God gave wisdom to his servants, gave them real ecounter.
But I'm all here doing my best to know God and it seems he does not even care.
Been through so much pains and struggle and God just increased everything.
Sincerely speaking I do regret at times.
Because God is all powerful but yet choose to remain silent.
Not fair
Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 1:32pm On Jan 13, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I don't need to ask because I already know what the vast majority in Christiandom pretend to be of God. undecided

Lmao
Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 1:36pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Does this mean i have to take responsibility and find a way to legitly become rich?
In the Bible God gave wisdom to his servants, gave them real ecounter.
But I'm all here doing my best to know God and it seems he does not even care.
Been through so much pains and struggle and God just increased everything.
Sincerely speaking I do regret at times.
Because God is all powerful but yet choose to remain silent.
Not fair
If what you are after is riches, then rather than seek God, I suggest you understand how acquisition of wealth happens the world's way and follow suit. undecided

If God is instead who you desire to have, then you are best understanding that one of the criterion to obtaining from Him is that you abandon it all for His sake, just as the disciples had to abandon everything in order to follow Him. Jesus Christ called everyone to do as He commanded His disciples to do and if you read carefully, they had to abandon career, wealth, reputation, family, friends...everything they had and owned so they could gain the reward that is heaven. undecided

God will not lower His standards for any man, so you need to realize what it is you truly seek when you claim you have given God your all. Are you in it to please God or are you in this for the sake of self. If the latter, then ..... lipsrsealed
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 1:44pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Okay, thanks for the write-up.
If I'm to ask, people say prayer is a means of communication with God.
Then why am I not able to communicate with God, I have prayed and prayed and prayed still nothing.

People woefully fail with regards to walking with God.

First, they are not told The Whole Truth about the walk with God and like you, the people themselves do not take out the time and energy to dig out the Truths of God.

That is the beginning of their Mistakes.

But to summarise the Way,
1) You have got to know Who God Truly is. He is not your servant or your personal genie or your mate.

2) You have got to know that you can not deceive Him, He is The Greatest and there He knows Your Truths. He knows you more than you know yourself.

3) You have got to decide or going to decide if in Truth you Truly Want God and all that it means to have God or you just want His goody goodies because it is said that He has goody goodies which you need and want but don't have.

And many other hard Truths that you are going to have to settle for yourself. He even knows all your Truths before you.

Thus, His not listening to people is the best good He can give them for they truly do not know that if He heard their prayers, they will Die for they know that they pray for the hastening of their deaths!
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 1:56pm On Jan 13, 2022
Horus:
Much of the Bible is based on mythology stories. Much of secular history (as we in the West know it) was falsely written and falsely rewritten for the purpose of setting up Caucasian supremacy. Much of biblical history (as we in the West know it) was intentionally mistranslated, interpolated, and tampered with to serve the same purpose, Caucasian supremacy, and some of biblical history does agree with secular history, if one knows how to compare the two, that is, if one has enough factual information to compare the two.
We must realize that when a people is trying to make themselves look bigger than others, they may take the main characters and heroes of a false or true story in religion and/or mythology and build their own story around the heroes and characters, and this means that the story may be greatly changed to suit the purpose of those rewriting it. The location, time it happened, name of characters and heroes, and the real essence of the story itself may be altered. This is why it happened in much of the Bible (Old and New Testaments) is one reason secular and biblical histories are difficult to compare, and in some instances, nearly impossible.


If novels which gave stories which were not real eg James Hardly Chase, John Grisham, Sidney Sheldon, Eze goes to school etc have guided people's lives for their good, the great value of the Bible is not weakened simply because because those who hate it, tell you not to accept it.
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:14pm On Jan 13, 2022
killyaselfie:
...So, what makes them special that their mythologies and fairy tales should be considered factual?

What makes you think the Jewish god adopted by Christianity is any more real than the leprechaun sitting in the corner of your room?...

What makes a Chrysler 300 better than a Peugeot 404? is the Driving of the better car.

Any person who has indeed "tasted" of The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, knows that indeed, there is None Else!

killyaselfie:

...Live free and try to respect nature including people. At the end of the day, you will be absorbed into the whole like a dew drop into the shining sea. Meaning, you will die and that will be the end of it. So don’t waste your time on some ignorant nonsense called god.

Yet he can't. Not even you have ever lived free. Suffering, pain, sorrow, fears Death are all your slave masters!

Well, you have done your part and given your counsel so it is time for him to decide after all it is him who shall enjoy/suffer the wearing of the shoe he chooses.
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:19pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Does this mean i have to take responsibility and find a way to legitly become rich?
In the Bible God gave wisdom to his servants, gave them real ecounter.
But I'm all here doing my best to know God and it seems he does not even care.
Been through so much pains and struggle and God just increased everything.
Sincerely speaking I do regret at times.
Because God is all powerful but yet choose to remain silent.
Not fair

Now you shall die in poverty exactly as it is Written "the poor never Listen." Proverbs 13:8
Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 2:20pm On Jan 13, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


What makes a Chrysler 300 better than a Peugeot 404? is the Driving of the better car.

Any person who has indeed "tasted" of The God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, knows that indeed, there is None Else!



Yet he can't. Not even you have ever lived free. Suffering, pain, sorrow, fears Death are all your slave masters!

Well, you have done your part and given your counsel so it is time for him to decide after all it is him who shall enjoy/suffer the wearing of the shoe he chooses.

If the Roman state had adopted the Mithraic Mysteries instead of the Gospels, you would be affirming Mithras as the only son of god instead of Jesus, and that there is “no one else” apart from the god of the Persians that you “tasted”.
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 2:29pm On Jan 13, 2022
killyaselfie:

If the Roman state had adopted the Mithraic Mysteries instead of the Gospels, you would be affirming Mithras as the only son of god instead of Jesus, and that there is “no one else” apart from the god of the Persians that you “tasted”.

What's in a name?

Does the name Etido or Odion or Uwanna have any value to you?

But surely, Buhari, Tinubu, Dangote do.

So I repeat "what is in a name?"

Answer: Only if It brings good to me.

There is nothing good you can reasonably say after this! Let's stop here.
Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 2:39pm On Jan 13, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


What's in a name?

Does the name Etido or Odion or Uwanna have any value to you?

But surely, Buhari, Tinubu, Dangote do.

None of them have any value to me unless I’m in a situation where mentioning a particular name is beneficial. In that case, Etido could be as valuable as Tinubu.

Dtruthspeaker:

So I repeat "what is in a name?"

Answer: Only if It brings good to me.

There is nothing good you can reasonably say after this! Let's stop here.

We agree the name Jesus has no intrinsic value but whatever floats your boat.
Re: Christianity by Dtruthspeaker: 3:14pm On Jan 13, 2022
killyaselfie:

None of them have any value to me unless I’m in a situation where mentioning a particular name is beneficial.

We agree the name Jesus has no intrinsic value but whatever floats your boat.

And you prove my case.

Tinubu/Etido have value to you.

They don't, to me! Hence the case of "What's in a name?"
Re: Christianity by killyaselfie: 3:22pm On Jan 13, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


And you prove my case.

Tinubu/Etido have value to you.

They don't, to me! Hence the case of "What's in a name?"


killyaselfie:


None of them have any value to me unless I’m in a situation where mentioning a particular name is beneficial. In that case, Etido could be as valuable as Tinubu.

Dtruthspeaker:



So I repeat "what is in a name?"

Answer: Only if It brings good to me.
.
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 8:11pm On Jan 13, 2022
I don't understand
Please explain more better
Wat do u mean
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 8:15pm On Jan 13, 2022
This is the bitter truth
But sir, if my prayers are not been answered then perhaps my ways are wrong.
Then firstly I will work on my heart.
While doing all this, I probably should figure out something to do to earn a living and hope/pray God guide's me
Am I right?
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 8:21pm On Jan 13, 2022
You are right and I agree.
Bro I've done so much
I am basically broke now because I had to stop my fraudulent so as to walk with God .
But it hurts that I pray and no answer, I know I'm not perfect but it hurts to live in hardship and so much more and I cry out to God just to hear His voice for encouragement and guidance but nothing.
I stopped my fraudulent work last year may and began to read the bible pray and lots more.
Still God did not speak, it hurts bro
I'm human, I've feelings.
Now I plan going to school, I'm confused don't know which to go to or how to pay fees.
I prayed for direction no response.
How do u think I feel?
Happy?
How do u think people around me look at me?
My life is turning into a mess because of my decision
If only God would speak to me to comfort me then I definitely would be happy.
Thank you
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 8:24pm On Jan 13, 2022
I do believe in God
But currently the church and gospel in Nigeria are not helping
No one to disciple u and help you build your faith, the Gospel here is basically about prosperity.
I stopped fraud becasue I came across a sermon and I broke down, cried all night and had to quit.
But since then, my finance, everything all went down
Ouch
It hurts to start from the scratch
No friend is there by your side, pastors here don't care bexause you are too broke and not contributing money.
Majority of pastors don't care about souls, they only care about bigger churches
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 8:30pm On Jan 13, 2022
I asked a simple question sir
Nobody intends to die poor and no one loves poverty, the Bible clearly states that it's our legitimate right.
Pls explain more to me sir, I'm willing to listen
Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 8:32pm On Jan 13, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
I do believe in God
But currently the church and gospel in Nigeria are not helping
No one to disciple u and help you build your faith, the Gospel here is basically about prosperity.
I stopped fraud becasue I came across a sermon and I broke down, cried all night and had to quit.
But since then, my finance, everything all went down
Ouch
It hurts to start from the scratch
No friend is there by your side, pastors here don't care bexause you are too broke and not contributing money.
Majority of pastors don't care about souls, they only care about bigger churches
First, stop looking to pastors, their churches and other Christians who you already know are themselves confused where God is concerned. Instead look to God Himself... He is not dead, nor is He deaf and dumb. He is simply waiting for you to do what He asked you to do, since over 2000 years ago, so He can answer you. undecided

Second, Jesus Christ is the way, the Truth- Rule book - and Life He gave you and I. So read carefully through the 4 Gospels and begin by doing all that which Jesus Christ commands that you do, as He said to. Obedience is the only way to honor God and it is also the only way to receive from God. undecided

Third, if you sincerely want to devote your life to Him, He will Himself answer you, and you will know this when it happens. Forget how others are living and focus on God and meeting His goal for you,this through continuous submission and obedience of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, God's Law and Truth in the Kingdom of God. undecided


Yes, it hurts to start from scratch but remember what Jesus Christ said. He said those who try to save their live - salvage the life they used to have - will loose it. But those who lose their life - abandon it all for His sake - will save it. undecided

You mentioned you abandoned your past. Why not now work towards fulfilling God's Law in your life from this point rather than working towards getting your old life back? undecided
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 12:30am On Jan 14, 2022
Thanks sir, this truly help.
Then you mean I should strive for ways to make income and lots more. And also continue praying and obeying God's words even though it seems boring at times.
Hoping one day he will speak to me??
Please sir your response will be truly appreciated
Re: Christianity by Elliotwealth1(m): 12:33am On Jan 14, 2022
Sir this is also a good point
But sincerely how do I know what God wants me to do, when I did not create myself?
That's the reason I stopped my previous lifestyle because sincerely I truly want to align with my destiny.
Sir if you don't mind pls, I would love to hear your stories on how your aligned and found Gods will for your life
Thank you.
It might also help lots of confused christians out there
Re: Christianity by Kobojunkie: 12:45am On Jan 14, 2022
Elliotwealth1:
Thanks sir, this truly help.
Then you mean I should strive for ways to make income and lots more. And also continue praying and obeying God's words even though it seems boring at times.
Hoping one day he will speak to me??
Please sir your response will be truly appreciated
If you want God to answer you, you have to obey Him. There is no way around that at all. So you need you decide for yourself how much value you place in serving/obeying God to begin with. undecided

As for praying to God, you should study the Gospels to learn from God how to actually pray to Him. Matthew 6 vs 1 - 15 is a good place to start to learn God's commandments you are meant to obey. undecided

Fasting, not the starvation diet kind which the majority out there practice, but the kind infact commanded by God and also prescribed as the way to let our light show- another one if Jesus Christ's commandments to us, is detailed in Isaiah 58. You can read and put that to practice as well. undecided

One thing you need to know is this, just like the disciples, you are to abandon your life in order to get the life that Jesus Christ has commanded for you to obtain from him. "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things - work, family, life, etc. - will be added to you afterwards, not before. undecided

I can't tell you how to go about it since only God can guide you through the process Himself. All I can tell you is that you have to submit as you are to Him in obedience to Hear from Him so that He can take control of you in your situation. undecided

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