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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Dikebuka: 5:44pm On Jan 23, 2022
I read peoples comment here and I only laugh. People don't see the handwriting on the wall. They keep shouting or confusing themselves that igbo are politically sophisticated.
They don't see how the religious and traditional elders are slowly but steadily aligning with the wishes of the masses with regards to Nnamdi Kanu.

The very day igbo politician starts to sing the biafran song, its all over..

For the person asking how Igbo will campaign in the north..I ask you, how will the other region campaign and convince the igboman to vote for them for igbo man is not on the balot.

Its better the Igboman get ticket for a party and lose the general election.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by abbasajao(m): 5:47pm On Jan 23, 2022
House of rep speaker nko?
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Decide2rise: 6:07pm On Jan 23, 2022
Legendrysailor:
Hell no !!!!!!

bunch of confused nincompoops

Abeg make I eat my food jari........
You see how foolish you're. It shows the kind of upbringing your parents gave to you. Poor thing
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nwaelohim: 6:24pm On Jan 23, 2022
Anytime your family feel disappointed about you, just remember how confused Ndi-igbo is about Nigeria politics. Ndiara. Politics is not by bullying others with what you want.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 6:41pm On Jan 23, 2022
In hindsight, shouldn't Bubu have lost?

How long do you think Nigeria can go on marginalising the Igbos? Very soon the Igbo leaders will realise there's nothing for them in Nigeria, then Biafra becomes clearer
eeetuk:

"South-East will not accept vice-presidential slots from any political party in the 2023 presidential race, prominent Igbo leaders have told Sunday Vanguard."

Ibo in any presidential ticket is a liability, period.
Buhari hired Ibo as his vice president and lost
Vice president Atiku Abubakar hired Ibo as his vice president and lost
Therefore, putting Ibo in any presidential ticket is a loss proposition

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 6:58pm On Jan 23, 2022
If you go through the thread, a lot of you guys have shown tremendous hate towards Ndigbo, this hate you justify with flimsy reasons. Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta have been voting pdp alongside Igbos but only Igbos are attacked because of their perceived supremacy.

A time is coming when this gang up will be reversed. It's good that you guys are saying over your dead body will Igbos get the presidency, that way Igbo leaders know there's nothing for then in Nigeria and see the existential need to support Biafra
Deadlytruth:
My unanswered question remains; why are Igbos' afraid of demanding 2023 ticket as a moral obligation from the PDP which they have served blindly, and in defense of which they have insulted all other tribes and made numerous enemies for themselves for the last 23 years?
There is no single tribe or any other party which Igbos have not insulted and called unprintable names in their loyalty and self destructive love for the PDP all in the hope that the party would on account of all that reward it with her 2023 ticket.
When in 2014 APC extended to them an olive branch that could have seen an Igbo man clinch the 2023 ticket of the party, they rejected it with very vehement insults like Amala Ewedu Islamic party of Arewanistan almajiris and so on at a time when the PDP they thought they were defending was not only a party that was founded by the same Fulanis they claimed to hate, but also wasn't making any commitment whatsoever to an Igbo presidency. Southern States that voted for APC got labelled as traitors by Igbos' even through there was no pan-Southern accord to vote for PDP.
PDP developed to a fully fledged religion in Igbo land so much that even their own better performing indegenous APGA had to battle against the forces of extinction within the SE on account of the strong wind of the non-performing PDP blowing all over the entire region. Even till today the average Igbo man hates APC without any recognizable cogent reason despite APC undertaking in their region projects which their beloved PDP only undertook on Corel draw and power point. So where exactly have they suddenly found this moral courage to start seeking the 2023 ticket of the same Arewanistan Amala Ewedu Islamic almajiri party to the near total ignoring of that of the PDP in which they have invested all their emotional capital in a manner of all eggs in a basket since 1999? If PDP is shy of zoning her 2023 ticket to the region that has so willingly slaved for it and stoically sacrificed blindly for it, then APC will be very naive to hand her own ticket to such a people. It only means PDP is either being plain selfish or that there is something sinister they have seen as regards the SE having her ticket.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 7:04pm On Jan 23, 2022
You can laugh now but you've got it coming!
OneTwoOne:
You contribute NOTHING to the Federal treasury you're leech to Nigeria as a country.

You're being kept in Nigeria just to punish you grin

You'll be here till Jesus come

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by NacoAba: 7:22pm On Jan 23, 2022
My brother I have stopped commenting on this forum because it's forum of war against the Igbo . This people hate Ndi Igbo so much and at the same time they can't afford to let them go with Biafra. But I like the comment so the leaders can be reading and change their mind and support Biafra actualization. What a country filled with bittered and hate for Igbo people. But umu chineke will always triumph

DMerciful:
If you go through the thread, a lot of you guys have shown tremendous hate towards Ndigbo, this hate you justify with flimsy reasons. Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta have been voting pdp alongside Igbos but only Igbos are attacked because of their perceived supremacy.

A time is coming when this gang up will be reversed. It's good that you guys are saying over your dead body will Igbos get the presidency, that way Igbo leaders know there's nothing for then in Nigeria and see the existential need to support Biafra

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by OneTwoOne(m): 9:42pm On Jan 23, 2022
What's coming?
Always comming grin grin grin

Ndi CHESTBEATERS grin
DMerciful:
You can laugh now but you've got it coming!

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Unconquerable: 10:54pm On Jan 23, 2022
I am Ibo but this victim mentality by Ndi Igbo or whatever group clamouring for power is really pathetic. Everyone has a level playing field and all should strive for whatever they want. The average northerner cannot be compared to an Easterner in intelligence but they are knowledgeable on what it takes to play the enigmatic game of politics the contraption called Nigeria requires. What a shame.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Deadlytruth(m): 4:32am On Jan 24, 2022
DMerciful:
If you go through the thread, a lot of you guys have shown tremendous hate towards Ndigbo, this hate you justify with flimsy reasons. Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta have been voting pdp alongside Igbos but only Igbos are attacked because of their perceived supremacy.

A time is coming when this gang up will be reversed. It's good that you guys are saying over your dead body will Igbos get the presidency, that way Igbo leaders know there's nothing for then in Nigeria and see the existential need to support Biafra

Wrong. No one hates Igbo for continuously voting for PDP. Like you rightly observed, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa have been voting for PDP but that doesn't attract any resentment towards them because their right to freedom of choice is respected. The difference however is that Igbos'don't respect the rights of others to vote any party of their choice. Look how Igbos' on NL deployed massive hate rhetorics against Edo for five good years because Edo chose to be ruled by APC on account of PDP's unprecedented failure in the state between 1999 and 2007. Even fellow SS states never resented Edo over that choice but Igbos' carried the matter on their heads as if they were more SS than the SS people themselves. Likewise, when Edo gave just 40% to Buhari in 2015 in reaction to Jonathan's marginalization of the state and servitude to Northern interests despite Edo State people were at the forefront of the intellectual and publicity aspects of the SS struggle for resource control and restructuring for which Jonathan was voted in by the whole South, Igbos' went all out against Edo State calling it unprintable names all over social media and labelling Edo as a NC and SW state even when the Bayelsa people and other SS states didn't show any resentment over that as they had not forgotten the pivotal role which Edo State natives owned AIT and Channels TV played in the struggle for the SS question. Even recently when Bayelsans decided to vote against PDP in the last guber election won by David Lyon, Igbos began to make derogatory remarks which were outrightly insultive on Bayelsans. This was what no other SS state ever attempted. Even Wike the main Bastion of PDP in the SS and the Governor of the closest sister state to Bayelsa wouldn't dare insult Bayelsans for that choice. But Igbos' carried it on their heads. Also, when Ben Ayade defected to the APC, Igbos' cried more than Cross River people. Then, even now that the situation of disappointment currently playing out in Edo State has compelled the slim majority that voted for Obaseki into regrets over their fall for the anti-godfatherism narrative, Igbos have continued chanting the Edo-No-Be-Lagos slogan more than Edo people themselves. Even Wike who deployed all his election arsenal to Edo State that day is now very perturbed by the attempts by Obaseki to upstage him in PDP relevance.
This attitude of Igbos minding the business of other regions more than theirs once it comes to PDP vs other parties tussle is what breeds the resentments against them and it is why they are asked to stick with that PDP as far as their 2023 ambition is concerned.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by NGpatriot: 4:54am On Jan 24, 2022
Awon ode inconsequential voters..

Beggars no get choice ..
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 5:19am On Jan 24, 2022
Igbos have no issues with Edo or Bayelsa,
never have. You're just making stuff up to suit your narrative. Igbos and SS including Edo normally vote the PDP in presidential elections so I really don't know what you're talking about.

All this complaints of insult is BS, everybody insults everybody on Nairaland. I have never heard you guys say you won't vote Fulanis for the killings and rapings by Fulani herdsmen. So you rate mutual insulting more than one-sided killing of Fulanis across Nigeria?

Obviously you're looking to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it
Deadlytruth:


Wrong. No one hates Igbo for continuously voting for PDP. Like you rightly observed, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa have been voting for PDP but that doesn't attract any resentment towards them because their right to freedom of choice is respected. The difference however is that Igbos'don't respect the rights of others to vote any party of their choice. Look how Igbos' on NL deployed massive hate rhetorics against Edo for five good years because Edo chose to be ruled by APC on account of PDP's unprecedented failure in the state between 1999 and 2007. Even fellow SS states never resented Edo over that choice but Igbos' carried the matter on their heads as if they were more SS than the SS people themselves. Likewise, when Edo gave just 40% to Buhari in 2015 in reaction to Jonathan's marginalization of the state and servitude to Northern interests despite Edo State people were at the forefront of the intellectual and publicity aspects of the SS struggle for resource control and restructuring for which Jonathan was voted in by the whole South, Igbos' went all out against Edo State calling it unprintable names all over social media and labelling Edo as a NC and SW state even when the Bayelsa people and other SS states didn't show any resentment over that as they had not forgotten the pivotal role which Edo State natives owned AIT and Channels TV played in the struggle for the SS question. Even recently when Bayelsans decided to vote against PDP in the last guber election won by David Lyon, Igbos began to make derogatory remarks which were outrightly insultive on Bayelsans. This was what no other SS state ever attempted. Even Wike the main Bastion of PDP in the SS and the Governor of the closest sister state to Bayelsa wouldn't dare insult Bayelsans for that choice. But Igbos' carried it on their heads. Also, when Ben Ayade defected to the APC, Igbos' cried more than Cross River people. Then, even now that the situation of disappointment currently playing out in Edo State has compelled the slim majority that voted for Obaseki into regrets over their fall for the anti-godfatherism narrative, Igbos have continued chanting the Edo-No-Be-Lagos slogan more than Edo people themselves. Even Wike who deployed all his election arsenal to Edo State that day is now very perturbed by the attempts by Obaseki to upstage him in PDP relevance.
This attitude of Igbos minding the business of other regions more than theirs once it comes to PDP vs other parties tussle is what breeds the resentments against them and it is why they are asked to stick with that PDP as far as their 2023 ambition is concerned.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Deadlytruth(m): 5:35am On Jan 24, 2022
DMerciful:
Igbos have no issues with Edo or Bayelsa,
never have. You're just making stuff up to suit your narrative. Igbos and SS including Edo normally vote the PDP in presidential elections so I really don't know what you're talking about.

All this complaints of insult is BS, everybody insults everybody on Nairaland. I have never heard you guys say you won't vote Fulanis for the killings and rapings by Fulani herdsmen. So you rate mutual insulting more than one-sided killing of Fulanis across Nigeria?

Obviously you're looking to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it

I can show you links to over 20 threads on NL in which Igbos, without any provocation, launched a tirade of insults against Edo for voting for APC in several state and federal elections. I can also show you that in which they took Bayelsa to the cleaners for voting for David Lyon. But you can never find a thread in which an Edo person set sail insults against the Igbo for voting PDP consistently.

On the issue of Fulanis menace, our attitude to them is relatively passive not because we have any soft spot for them but because we believe that their attainment of invincibility and above the law status was caused by the Igbos' rejection of the proposed all-South alliance at independence which would have crushed their born-to-rule philosophy in the bud and place them at the low level they should have belonged in an ideal Nigeria.
You yourself can't refute the fact that If Igbos had let reason prevail over sentiments in the 1960 alliance issue, the Fulanis would have been nothing today in a Nigeria where merit alone rules amidst strict regionalism, resource control and decentralized police which would have curtailed the excesses of the Fulani normads .

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 5:47am On Jan 24, 2022
You mean the Igbos that lost the civil war is the one responsible for the fulani herdsmen killing Nigerians across the nation?

Is APC not in IMO? Is Hope Uzodinma not being insulted by Igbos? What about Okorocha and Umahi? Is PDP not the government in Edo state? What about Oyo state?

Are all Igbos PDP? My friend you've no point. The fact that you blamed Igbos for Fulani herdsmen who got empowered when SW aligned with the North(PDP won Edo in 2015 so una nor follow) to bring Bubu shows the hatred for Igbos which you're trying hard to deny.

Ofcourse you cannot say you won't vote Fulani because you don't have the population to cause them damage.
Deadlytruth:


I can show you links to over 20 threads on NL in which Igbos, without any provocation, launched a tirade of insults against Edo for voting for APC in several state and federal elections. I can also show you that in which they took Bayelsa to the cleaners for voting for David Lyon. But you can never find a thread in which an Edo person set sail insults against the Igbo for voting PDP consistently.

On the issue of Fulanis menace, our attitude to them is relatively passive not because we have any soft spot for them but because we believe that their attainment of invincibility and above the law status was caused by the Igbos' rejection of the proposed all-South alliance at independence which would have crushed their born-to-rule philosophy in the bud and place them at the low level they should have belonged in an ideal Nigeria.
You yourself can't refute the fact that If Igbos had let reason prevail over sentiments in the 1960 alliance issue, the Fulanis would have been nothing today in a Nigeria where merit alone rules amidst strict regionalism, resource control and decentralized police which would have curtailed the excesses of the Fulani normads .
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Anago55: 6:38am On Jan 24, 2022
Deadlytruth:


Wrong. No one hates Igbo for continuously voting for PDP. Like you rightly observed, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa have been voting for PDP but that doesn't attract any resentment towards them because their right to freedom of choice is respected. The difference however is that Igbos'don't respect the rights of others to vote any party of their choice. Look how Igbos' on NL deployed massive hate rhetorics against Edo for five good years because Edo chose to be ruled by APC on account of PDP's unprecedented failure in the state between 1999 and 2007. Even fellow SS states never resented Edo over that choice but Igbos' carried the matter on their heads as if they were more SS than the SS people themselves. Likewise, when Edo gave just 40% to Buhari in 2015 in reaction to Jonathan's marginalization of the state and servitude to Northern interests despite Edo State people were at the forefront of the intellectual and publicity aspects of the SS struggle for resource control and restructuring for which Jonathan was voted in by the whole South, Igbos' went all out against Edo State calling it unprintable names all over social media and labelling Edo as a NC and SW state even when the Bayelsa people and other SS states didn't show any resentment over that as they had not forgotten the pivotal role which Edo State natives owned AIT and Channels TV played in the struggle for the SS question. Even recently when Bayelsans decided to vote against PDP in the last guber election won by David Lyon, Igbos began to make derogatory remarks which were outrightly insultive on Bayelsans. This was what no other SS state ever attempted. Even Wike the main Bastion of PDP in the SS and the Governor of the closest sister state to Bayelsa wouldn't dare insult Bayelsans for that choice. But Igbos' carried it on their heads. Also, when Ben Ayade defected to the APC, Igbos' cried more than Cross River people. Then, even now that the situation of disappointment currently playing out in Edo State has compelled the slim majority that voted for Obaseki into regrets over their fall for the anti-godfatherism narrative, Igbos have continued chanting the Edo-No-Be-Lagos slogan more than Edo people themselves. Even Wike who deployed all his election arsenal to Edo State that day is now very perturbed by the attempts by Obaseki to upstage him in PDP relevance.
This attitude of Igbos minding the business of other regions more than theirs once it comes to PDP vs other parties tussle is what breeds the resentments against them and it is why they are asked to stick with that PDP as far as their 2023 ambition is concerned.
. You were deployed here by whoever that is bankrolling you to always go in necks against the Igbo nation. I have never seen you comment on any other national issues except the Igbo affairs with long and boring epistle that tends to only impress your fellow igbophobic zombies here

Let me tell you what you don't know, you guys are really pushing some of us who still believe in Nigeria to the other camp. By 2023 ,we shall see how it goes
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by colestephan86: 7:37am On Jan 24, 2022
EcoBrick:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/01/2023-south-east-wont-accept-vp-slot-igbo-leaders-warn/
The presidency must come to the south, and it must be SE.
If not Nigeria will not be one again.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Deadlytruth(m): 10:53am On Jan 24, 2022
Anago55:
. You were deployed here by whoever that is bankrolling you to always go in necks against the Igbo nation. I have never seen you comment on any other national issues except the Igbo affairs with long and boring epistle that tends to only impress your fellow igbophobic zombies here

Let me tell you what you don't know, you guys are really pushing some of us who still believe in Nigeria to the other camp. By 2023 ,we shall see how it goes
I was initially on guest mode here and didn't intend to ever register. However the hate messages Igbos and insults deployed here against my state by Igbo monickers embittered by what didn't concern them at all and which were
1. that my state didn't give as much as 90% votes to Jonathan in 2015
2. That Edo State monickers here resented the initial inclusion of Edo in Biafra maps
compelled me to register, and that is what has been bankrolling me against Igbos. In essence I was provoked by the Igbo monickers in this group hence I registered solely because of the need to counter them with the ugly history of how they were actually responsible for the Fulani domination which they dishonestly accuse Yorubas, Edos, Urhobos, Ijaws and nearly every other tribe of and that explains your correct observation that I hardly comment on threads not directly related to Igbos as it relates to Nigerian politics. My joy is that since I joined here in 2015 I have been able to open the eyes of a lot of Nigerians to the historical facts that Igbos sold the South to Hausafulani domination which they themselves now wail about everyday. I have been able to show that Igbos destroyed the equitable structure which Nigeria started with and that Igbos were actually the first offenders to nearly every other tribe. In all that, all I get are insults for these revelations rather than rebuttals woven around superior contrary facts and arguments and that is my source of joy and further inspiration. If Igbos had respected the right of freedom of choice of my state to vote for whichever party it likes be it in state or federal elections, I wouldn't have ever registered on NL let alone lauch epistle of anti-Igbo narratives. Hope you get it now? Igbos stirred the hornet's nest and must be ready for the stings.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Deadlytruth(m): 11:41am On Jan 24, 2022
DMerciful:
You mean the Igbos that lost the civil war is the one responsible for the fulani herdsmen killing Nigerians across the nation?
Ahmadu Bello's boast about Nigeria becoming the estate of his forefathers and the prospect of dipping the Koran into the Atlantic Ocean predated the Civil war and he made that declaration 10 days after Igbos handed him political power in 1960 on a platter of gold. That threat is what you see being implemented today through Fulani Herdsmen menace.


DMerciful:

Is APC not in IMO? Is Hope Uzodinma not being insulted by Igbos? What about Okorocha and Umahi? Is PDP not the government in Edo state? What about Oyo state?

APC was not the people's choice in Imo and Ebonyi but imposed by the Supreme Court and Umahi's defection respectively hence the unrest in Imo and the hatred for Umahi in Ebonyi despite his breathtaking performance with very lean resources.
DMerciful:

Are all Igbos PDP? My friend you've no point.
Agreed that not all Igbos are in PDP but the few ones in APC are an endangered species among the majority in PDP. Joe Igbokwe's house was recently burnt down in Nnewi and he was warned against visiting home for Christmas all because he is in the APC. An aide to Hope Uzodinma was recently caught and tortured with naked flames for being in APC. In fact Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob are pro-PDP.
DMerciful:

The fact that you blamed Igbos for Fulani herdsmen who got empowered when SW aligned with the North(PDP won Edo in 2015 so una nor follow) to bring Bubu shows the hatred for Igbos which you're trying hard to deny.
Fulani herdsmen menace started in 2009 in Plateau State during the Yaradua-Jobathan PDP era. So you arguement here is watered down. Contrary to your other claim, your fellow Igbo monickers don't agree with you for they are of the opinion that with 40% votes for Buhari in 2015, Edo was responsible for bringing Buhari and that insane reasoning is what made me register on NL with the mission to ask how that makes sense in democracy and to expose how Igbos have always aligned with the Fulanis at independence, again in 1979 and once more in 1999 and thereby destroying the much needed unity in the South to put Fulanis where they should belong.
DMerciful:

Ofcourse you cannot say you won't vote Fulani because you don't have the population to cause them damage.

Neither do you Igbos alone have such population to cause them damage. The Southern unity needed to do that was eroded by Igbos at independence and that remains the bane of the South till today.

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Karemarealty288(m): 12:05pm On Jan 24, 2022
Why are our Ohanaeze always issuing statements like a drunk that just recovered from a terrible hangover and started making demands. Ohanaeze is an identifiable problem of Igbo nation.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Anago55: 1:15pm On Jan 24, 2022
Deadlytruth:
I was initially on guest mode here and didn't intend to ever register. However the hate messages Igbos and insults deployed here against my state by Igbo monickers embittered by what didn't concern them at all and which were
1. that my state didn't give as much as 90% votes to Jonathan in 2015
2. That Edo State monickers here resented the initial inclusion of Edo in Biafra maps
compelled me to register, and that is what has been bankrolling me against Igbos. In essence I was provoked by the Igbo monickers in this group hence I registered solely because of the need to counter them with the ugly history of how they were actually responsible for the Fulani domination which they dishonestly accuse Yorubas, Edos, Urhobos, Ijaws and nearly every other tribe of and that explains your correct observation that I hardly comment on threads not directly related to Igbos as it relates to Nigerian politics. My joy is that since I joined here in 2015 I have been able to open the eyes of a lot of Nigerians to the historical facts that Igbos sold the South to Hausafulani domination which they themselves now wail about everyday. I have been able to show that Igbos destroyed the equitable structure which Nigeria started with and that Igbos were actually the first offenders to nearly every other tribe. In all that, all I get are insults for these revelations rather than rebuttals woven around superior contrary facts and arguments and that is my source of joy and further inspiration. If Igbos had respected the right of freedom of choice of my state to vote for whichever party it likes be it in state or federal elections, I wouldn't have ever registered on NL let alone lauch epistle of anti-Igbo narratives. Hope you get it now? Igbos stirred the hornet's nest and must be ready for the stings.
. Okay

Continue

I hope it makes you sleep well at night
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by GreatGod906: 1:40pm On Jan 24, 2022
Deadlytruth:


Wrong. No one hates Igbo for continuously voting for PDP. Like you rightly observed, Delta, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Rivers, Bayelsa have been voting for PDP but that doesn't attract any resentment towards them because their right to freedom of choice is respected. The difference however is that Igbos'don't respect the rights of others to vote any party of their choice. Look how Igbos' on NL deployed massive hate rhetorics against Edo for five good years because Edo chose to be ruled by APC on account of PDP's unprecedented failure in the state between 1999 and 2007. Even fellow SS states never resented Edo over that choice but Igbos' carried the matter on their heads as if they were more SS than the SS people themselves. Likewise, when Edo gave just 40% to Buhari in 2015 in reaction to Jonathan's marginalization of the state and servitude to Northern interests despite Edo State people were at the forefront of the intellectual and publicity aspects of the SS struggle for resource control and restructuring for which Jonathan was voted in by the whole South, Igbos' went all out against Edo State calling it unprintable names all over social media and labelling Edo as a NC and SW state even when the Bayelsa people and other SS states didn't show any resentment over that as they had not forgotten the pivotal role which Edo State natives owned AIT and Channels TV played in the struggle for the SS question. Even recently when Bayelsans decided to vote against PDP in the last guber election won by David Lyon, Igbos began to make derogatory remarks which were outrightly insultive on Bayelsans. This was what no other SS state ever attempted. Even Wike the main Bastion of PDP in the SS and the Governor of the closest sister state to Bayelsa wouldn't dare insult Bayelsans for that choice. But Igbos' carried it on their heads. Also, when Ben Ayade defected to the APC, Igbos' cried more than Cross River people. Then, even now that the situation of disappointment currently playing out in Edo State has compelled the slim majority that voted for Obaseki into regrets over their fall for the anti-godfatherism narrative, Igbos have continued chanting the Edo-No-Be-Lagos slogan more than Edo people themselves. Even Wike who deployed all his election arsenal to Edo State that day is now very perturbed by the attempts by Obaseki to upstage him in PDP relevance.
This attitude of Igbos minding the business of other regions more than theirs once it comes to PDP vs other parties tussle is what breeds the resentments against them and it is why they are asked to stick with that PDP as far as their 2023 ambition is concerned.
God bless u

Look at d way they are shouting Yoruba betrayal up n down n na only them dey carry am for head pass.

Even south south have moved on,99% of monikers insulting other Nigerians here and calling them derogatory names are igbos

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Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 3:23pm On Jan 24, 2022
From 1960 to now is a very long time. Does that not tell you this one Nigeria cannot work with Igbos in it? Why then do you oppose Biafra so Igbos can go, since from your comments Igbos are majorly responsible for Nigeria problems?

Can two walk unless they agree? We can't continue this macabre dance for long. There's no trust among us and it doesn't matter who's responsible, we're just not meant to be compatriots
Deadlytruth:

Ahmadu Bello's boast about Nigeria becoming the estate of his forefathers and the prospect of dipping the Koran into the Atlantic Ocean predated the Civil war and he made that declaration 10 days after Igbos handed him political power in 1960 on a platter of gold. That threat is what you see being implemented today through Fulani Herdsmen menace.




APC was not the people's choice in Imo and Ebonyi but imposed by the Supreme Court and Umahi's defection respectively hence the unrest in Imo and the hatred for Umahi in Ebonyi despite his breathtaking performance with very lean resources.
Agreed that not all Igbos are in PDP but the few ones in APC are an endangered species among the majority in PDP. Joe Igbokwe's house was recently burnt down in Nnewi and he was warned against visiting home for Christmas all because he is in the APC. An aide to Hope Uzodinma was recently caught and tortured with naked flames for being in APC. In fact Nnamdi Kanu and Ipob are pro-PDP.

Fulani herdsmen menace started in 2009 in Plateau State during the Yaradua-Jobathan PDP era. So you arguement here is watered down. Contrary to your other claim, your fellow Igbo monickers don't agree with you for they are of the opinion that with 40% votes for Buhari in 2015, Edo was responsible for bringing Buhari and that insane reasoning is what made me register on NL with the mission to ask how that makes sense in democracy and to expose how Igbos have always aligned with the Fulanis at independence, again in 1979 and once more in 1999 and thereby destroying the much needed unity in the South to put Fulanis where they should belong.


Neither do you Igbos alone have such population to cause them damage. The Southern unity needed to do that was eroded by Igbos at independence and that remains the bane of the South till today.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 4:07am On Jan 25, 2022
DMerciful:
In hindsight, shouldn't Bubu have lost?

How long do you think Nigeria can go on marginalising the Igbos? Very soon the Igbo leaders will realise there's nothing for them in Nigeria, then Biafra becomes clearer

But Shagari's VP was Ekwueme and we know he wasn't Yoruba. you kids just exhibit to the whole world how dense you are
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 4:09am On Jan 25, 2022
perambulator:
when it comes to politics igbos tend to talk without thinking and hence they tend to lose out or play second fidle in a bid to be involved.

You dont make threats in a democracy when you do not have numerical strength. it is better to have a seat at the table than to feed of crumbs from the table.

Are you really sure igbos don't have numerical strength or just the fake census results you are using? bro if a census result is done in south west and they show the results by ethnicity. Yorubas will panic because the number of igbos if they vote in a place like Lagos it will swing easily the election
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by DMerciful(m): 4:11am On Jan 25, 2022
Was Ekwueme not treated differently? Was Shagari not given house arrest while Ekwueme sent to prison even when he wasn't the head of government?

You had to go to 1979 to look for when an Igbo man was VP? Meanwhile that was done because of the civil war to give Igbos sense of belonging...since then they've sworn to marginalize the Igbos esp as they're becoming self prosperous
obynzo:


But Shagari's VP was Ekwueme and we know he wasn't Yoruba. you kids just exhibit to the whole world how dense you are
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 4:17am On Jan 25, 2022
Deadlytruth:
I was initially on guest mode here and didn't intend to ever register. However the hate messages Igbos and insults deployed here against my state by Igbo monickers embittered by what didn't concern them at all and which were
1. that my state didn't give as much as 90% votes to Jonathan in 2015
2. That Edo State monickers here resented the initial inclusion of Edo in Biafra maps
compelled me to register, and that is what has been bankrolling me against Igbos. In essence I was provoked by the Igbo monickers in this group hence I registered solely because of the need to counter them with the ugly history of how they were actually responsible for the Fulani domination which they dishonestly accuse Yorubas, Edos, Urhobos, Ijaws and nearly every other tribe of and that explains your correct observation that I hardly comment on threads not directly related to Igbos as it relates to Nigerian politics. My joy is that since I joined here in 2015 I have been able to open the eyes of a lot of Nigerians to the historical facts that Igbos sold the South to Hausafulani domination which they themselves now wail about everyday. I have been able to show that Igbos destroyed the equitable structure which Nigeria started with and that Igbos were actually the first offenders to nearly every other tribe. In all that, all I get are insults for these revelations rather than rebuttals woven around superior contrary facts and arguments and that is my source of joy and further inspiration. If Igbos had respected the right of freedom of choice of my state to vote for whichever party it likes be it in state or federal elections, I wouldn't have ever registered on NL let alone lauch epistle of anti-Igbo narratives. Hope you get it now? Igbos stirred the hornet's nest and must be ready for the stings.

You this man you are here again spreading lies after i dealt with you the last time. Now since you cannot prove that Zik move the HQ of NCNC from Lagos to Enugu now you have come again with another lie that Igbos gave power to the Fulani. When it was actually the British via the falsified census results that gave the north the semblance of a large population. The 1959 Elections gave the NPC more seats thereby condemning the south to send fiddle via a coalition. so it was a race between Awo or Zik, AG or NCNC who will be in that coalition and mind you Akintola went secretly to Sardauna to form a coalition when Awo was trying to see if NCNC and AG would form a coalition and Sardauna informed Zik about it. Tje seeming betrayal made Zik enter coalition with NPC. So stop the revisionist tales. Anywhere i catch you commenting i will face you. again you still haven't provided proof as to how Zik moved NCNC party HQ from Lagos to Enugu.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by aribisala0(m): 4:21am On Jan 25, 2022
This is wrong
The parliamentary system means that the party with a majority in parliament forms the government
No single party could form a government hence the need for coalition

Zik chose to form a coalition with NPC in 1960 and 1965
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 9:22am On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:


Are you really sure igbos don't have numerical strength or just the fake census results you are using? bro if a census result is done in south west and they show the results by ethnicity. Yorubas will panic because the number of igbos if they vote in a place like Lagos it will swing easily the election

Have they not been voting since...why havent they taken Lagos? Ibos are everywhere but not in enough numbers to determine an election. Even the last elections that they tried to vote PDP in Lagos they failed. If Ibos cannot determine elections in Lagos they cant determine elections anywhere else outside Ibo land.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 25, 2022
perambulator:


Have they not been voting since...why havent they taken Lagos? Ibos are everywhere but not in enough numbers to determine an election. Even the last elections that they tried to vote PDP in Lagos they failed. If Ibos cannot determine elections in Lagos they cant determine elections anywhere else outside Ibo land.
Bro trust me if they were not enough to influence votes why did thugs disrupt elections in areas with substantial igbo population in Lagos? Again we forget that in 1999 elections that Tinubu won the guy that was second in that election was an igbo man i forgot the party he contested under. something that made OPC under Fredrick Fasehun to issue a treat that igbos must not disrupt elections for Yoruba in Lagos.
Re: 2023: South-East Won’t Accept VP Slot, Igbo Leaders Warn by Nobody: 9:43am On Jan 25, 2022
obynzo:

Bro trust me if they were not enough to influence votes why did thugs disrupt elections in areas with substantial igbo population in Lagos? Again we forget that in 1999 elections that Tinubu won the guy that was second in that election was an igbo man i forgot the party he contested under. something that made OPC under Fredrick Fasehun to issue a treat that igbos must not disrupt elections for Yoruba in Lagos.

you have answered your own question. The day ibos determine elections in Lagos, they know what will happen. Even if Ibos get to a point where they have a population stronghold and they start to get funny ideas, no region in Nigeria (not in the North and certainly not in yoruba land) will allow them to take determine outcomes outside their land. This is not the western world.

BTW the man who came second in 1999 was a yoruba man under PDP Dapo Sarumi . None of the 2 political parties are stoopid enough to field an Ibo as governor in Lagos. Not even senator. We can allow house of rep and state house of assembly for ibo areas like Amuwo etc.

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