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| Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
Those who were killed for being Atheists... Any historical figure that can be recognised as a martyr of Atheism? Atheism: the rejection of any belief in the existence of deities... (Wikipedia) Mynd44 Seun Lalasiclala. 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by DarkJeddi(m): 5:22pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
Where do you begin? MILLIONS have been murdered.. For questioning the existence of some imaginary being.. 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 6:02pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
DarkJeddi:I thought so... I just wondered if there's any you can mention that others here can appreciate... We know the names and martyrs of other faiths... |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by MufasaLion: 8:34pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
 Nobody wants to die. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 10:55pm On Jan 29, 2022 |
Op is confused, thought atheism is not religion Or a belief. A martyr is someone who is killed for their belief, so when has atheism become a belief? Atheism is copying religion a concept it claims to oppose, confusing confusion? How a self claim intelligent person could believe the well structured universe, life itself is a product of nothingness or cosmic accident is the highest form of stupidity that can ever exist. The proof of God is the everything you see around you. Life can only come from life, life can never come from non living thing. 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 7:06am On Jan 30, 2022 |
Datboredberry:I think just a few but there is this guy Thomas Aikenhead who questioned the historicity of "Jesus Christ" He was killed in 1697 and his crimes were no more offensive than questioning the historicity of Christ.. Then they wanted him dead to serve as a warning to others.. 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 7:09am On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:You sure can be murdered for not believing in others belief..  |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 8:00am On Jan 30, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK:then that is not martyr. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 8:07am On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:Atheism can also be said to be the the belief that gods doesn't exist.. Right or wrong? So why can't you be martyred cos of that belief or idealogy..it musn't be really about religion.. A Marty is someone who suffers persecution due to his belief..faith..and cause... So sure atheist can be martyred and it happened.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 12:16pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK:Atheist is usually defined as unbelief in God. You have just defined atheism as a religion. Atheists are not innocent as they are part of those who persecute and murder theists and diverse views. 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 12:19pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:Atheism not atheist Unbelief in God is what?not having a belief in your God.. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 1:30pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Good you agree atheism is a religion. It is your fellow atheist that define atheism as unbelief in God. FERNANDEZISBACK: |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 1:31pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:You still fail to get me due to your love for your God ...it's cool enjoy yourself.. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by LordTheus(m): 2:06pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:People have been killed in the past for their lack of belief in any god(s). Forget semantics, you know what the OP is talking about |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 2:09pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
LordTheus:Same thing I've been explaining but seems the guy doesn't want to agree.. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 2:46pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK:Thank you very much, I will read more on him... 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:Funny enough... Those who've killed theists are other theists... Simply different Faiths... For example: Christians murdering Traditional worshippers... Muslims murdering Christians... It's always one religion versus the other religion... 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 2:51pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Datboredberry:No issues.. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 3:13pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Datboredberry:Stalin was not a theist! Both theist and atheist has murdered people. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 3:15pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
LordTheus:People kill people,whether theist or atheists it is a human condition. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 4:49pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Steep:The majority are theists... All the religious wars, conquering of lands in the name of God, tortures and murders of 'heathens' and forced conversions... THEISTS!!! 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 5:08pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Datboredberry:that was because majority of the populace were theists so it is expected to be atheists who were few but the overall issue is that of humanity in general not a matter of theists or non theists. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Workch: 5:35pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
FERNANDEZISBACK:Atheism is not a belief. It's a "disbelief" in the claim made by religious people that God exist which they have refused to provide evidence for since the idea was first conceived. I don't believe is the key word 1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:49pm On Jan 30, 2022 |
Only believers can lay down their lives instead of denying their faith, atheists are faithless they're ready to deny everything else as long as they are spared to continue living. So atheists can be defined as people who only believe (trust) in themselves, as long as they live they believe or trust no one else!  1 Like |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 12:29am On Jan 31, 2022 |
Datboredberry: Are you an atheist? Well, I can't have issues with everyone. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by LordTheus(m): 12:42am On Jan 31, 2022 |
Steep:This much we know. However you're being disingenuous by pretending you don't understand the purpose of the OP. This topic is about people who've been killed because of their lack of belief in gods. Don't you think it says some things about the intolerance and "us versus them" mentality prevalent in the world's most prominent religions? Especially Christianity where "love your neighbor as yourself" is pretty much expressed by adherents as a fundamental maxim? Please let's face the topic. 3 Likes |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by FERNANDEZISBACK: 6:54am On Jan 31, 2022 |
Workch:Ok. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Steep(m): 8:06am On Jan 31, 2022 |
LordTheus:The word "maryr" can not be used for atheism because atheism is a disbelief not a belief. That is not to say atheist should be killed for their disbelief which is very very rare except maybe in Islamic countries which actually targets Christians and jews. Christians do not believe in killing non believers or persecuting non believers but in converting them through love and Meekness otherwise they would be left alone to live in peace. There must be 'Us vs them' because there exists different ideology and belief system. For example you won't agree to be lumped together with theists because you are not, it is not a matter of mentality but of reality. |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by Nobody: 8:17am On Jan 31, 2022 |
Steep:Yes and all the crusades against Muslim or the wars between Protestants and catholics(killing more than 8 million people) and the christain colonizers who made Africans slaves,all of that was done using love. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Martyrs Of Atheism? by LordReed(m): 9:03am On Jan 31, 2022 |
Steep: That is not the only definition of martyr. : a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle a martyr to the cause of freedom https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/martyr Basically anyone who dies for the sake of any cause is a martyr religious cause or not. Ken Saro Wiwa was a martyr for the Niger Delta cause. Atheism is copying religion a concept it claims to oppose, confusing confusion? There is no copying rather you are attempting to appropriate general terms to make them exclusively religious. Not every regular gathering of people constitutes a religious service for instance. How a self claim intelligent person could believe the well structured universe, life itself is a product of nothingness or cosmic accident is the highest form of stupidity that can ever exist. When will you become reasonable and stop saying something you've have been corrected on several times. Atheists don't say life is a product of nothingness or a cosmic accident. The proof of God is the everything you see around you. Then this also proof that Odin, Thor, Zeus, Sango, Osun, etc. are real. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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