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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by stevnwigw1: 1:56pm On Feb 13, 2022
Fear oyigbo, very wicked people, the last time I checked Belgium is not an oil-producing country, yet has a functional oil refinery.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by sixtus239: 2:06pm On Feb 13, 2022
Who send them
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Originalsly: 2:10pm On Feb 13, 2022
People need to be held accountable. Who was in charge of verifying the quality of fuel at the loading point? On arrival in Nigeria who was responsible for checking the quality?.... and at the fuel depots aren't they supposed to also check the fuel? How can there be sooo many slip ups? These responsible need to be in court and be open to pay for damages due to their negligence. Our problem is people.do what they want to without consequences.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nnatuu: 2:38pm On Feb 13, 2022
Bad fuel that damaged who's car engine?

Stupid government will always look for every opportunity to oppress the people into accepting a price increase.

And the people are so docile!
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by hekola: 3:01pm On Feb 13, 2022
GemUnique:

I'll be glad if I learn from you smiley
it cheaper processing it abroad than here in Nigeria at the moment.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:05pm On Feb 13, 2022
ojun50:
Who import am

Abi ooo... Who imported it? Who certified it? Long useless talk

No arrest, nothing! Just daily talk.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 13, 2022
Originalsly:
People need to be held accountable. Who was in charge of verifying the quality of fuel at the loading point? On arrival in Nigeria who was responsible for checking the quality?.... and at the fuel depots aren't they supposed to also check the fuel? How can there be sooo many slip ups? These responsible need to be in court and be open to pay for damages due to their negligence. Our problem is people.do what they want to without consequences.

So many gaps. Tomorrow they will come with another epistle. SGS are among their certifiers. Did they certified it at arrival? This country is something else honestly

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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by henrybomb(m): 3:17pm On Feb 13, 2022
If not the incompetent and shallow minded leaders that we have in Nigeria I see no reason why we are still importing fuel.
No future or immediate plan to move forward always moving in circles without end.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:22pm On Feb 13, 2022
Should I say I Curse the greedy fools and useless zombies In this God forsaken shiiiithole. Sigh. The Issue Is even the Zombies are not to be pitied and sided with because they are worst than their evil chief manipulators. I am Just "SAD" I came In this colour. I understand All other nations have their shortcomings but what Is happening In shiiiithole Is too saddening, degrading and disgraceful. Even If the "White Supremacist doesn't wants our progress, Should we In turn always assist them In achieving and maintaining their mission over us. Oo will help these lowlives? Every other Nations have now seen who and what we are!!! They see shiiiithole zombies as sub human, useless entities, no headway, demeaning and mediocre peeps, Sigh. It's very unfortunate to have anything to do with the black race "Most especially Shiiithole Zombies" It's depressing and very unfortunate.....
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by OmegaAutos: 3:29pm On Feb 13, 2022
Whyedu:
Nice one this time

Philippine is poorer than southeast and Ukraine will soon be bombarded and may end up being like deserts in the north, why urge people to go and study there?
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by executive12: 3:29pm On Feb 13, 2022
weblord1900:
It's just recently I learnt that Nigeria imports petrol. I thought we're rich in oil. That we have everything. shocked

Really You just learnt that Nigeria imports petrol? Nigeria has always been importing petrol, of course.

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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by executive12: 3:32pm On Feb 13, 2022
BigDawsNet:
A 61 year old country
A country with 8 Billionaire
A country with 15,400 Millionaires
A country with 150m Thousanaires


And we cannot build a single functional refinery!!! angry

Nigeria has no real billionaire. Most are treasury looters.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:34pm On Feb 13, 2022
A lot of people are here screaming and shouting...but no one is asking why

1.In the begining, we refined fuel here

2.In 1973, government brought in a subsidy...which meant that part of the profit that the industry got from selling petrol was offset, but at the end, refinereis were allowed to make a profit.

3.From 1988, Government did something nice...they forced the refinereis to sell fuel at a price lower than its cost of producing it.

4.Even then, at the end of the day, refineries did not make enough profit, the subsidy paid did not cover their losses, and by 2011, we had lost all our refining

5.So, we sent fuel abroad to refine...to countries like Belgium and Holland. But here is the thing

Our crude is refined in substandard refinereis in Belgium and Holland...which is why the PMS sold here is very bad quality.

Now, here is how much gasoline would cost refined in standard belgian and dutch refinereis

Belgium: N809.59
Holland: N961

Now imagine the subsidy cost needed to keep it low......at N163.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:36pm On Feb 13, 2022
OmegaAutos:


[s]Pilippine is poorer than southeast and Ukraine will soon be bombarded and may end up being like deserts in the north, why urge people to go and study there?[/s]

Philippine Is poor okay, But A thousand times better than shiiiithole and you useless zombies with no headway In life. Awon eleribu dede, Imagine saying Philippine Is poor. A nation that have first class TIES with China and Co and benefit from them. Recently I discovered shiiiithole zombies have started Importing "PHILIPINES USED ITEMS" Just Imagine, and someone opened his stinky mouth that they are poor....
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:39pm On Feb 13, 2022
BigDawsNet:
A 61 year old country
A country with 8 Billionaire
A country with 15,400 Millionaires
A country with 150m Thousanaires


And we cannot build a single functional refinery!!! angry

Because you guys would insist on buying fuel at N100 and below, even if it cost N300 to refine that liter of fuel

That's why we lost our refineries, and why, unless your name is Dangote, and you have the collateral for loans for building the refinery, none of your billionaires, millionaires would be interested in building refinery. They don't want to lose money.

A businessman does not run a charity. They too want to recoup their investment and make profit...not just so that they can build big mansion to house their fifth wife, or sidechick, but also to pay for expansion, maintenance, upgrades to the refinery, as well as staff welfare (the last is important, because no one is going to work in the oil industry for N20000 salary a month. )

We lost our 4 NNPC refinereis because we ran them at a loss in the name of subsidy

Businessmen also don't like government setting their prices, because government won't let them make a profit.

So, they keep away from refinereis.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:43pm On Feb 13, 2022
backbencher:
[s]A lot of people are here screaming and shouting...but no one is asking why

1.In the begining, we refined fuel here

2.In 1973, government brought in a subsidy...which meant that part of the profit that the industry got from selling petrol was offset, but at the end, refinereis were allowed to make a profit.

3.From 1988, Government did something nice...they forced the refinereis to sell fuel at a price lower than its cost of producing it.

4.Even then, at the end of the day, refineries did not make enough profit, the subsidy paid did not cover their losses, and by 2011, we had lost all our refining

5.So, we sent fuel abroad to refine...to countries like Belgium and Holland. But here is the thing

Our crude is refined in substandard refinereis in Belgium and Holland...which is why the PMS sold here is very bad quality.

Now, here is how much gasoline would cost refined in standard belgian and dutch refinereis

Belgium: N809.59
Holland: N961

Now imagine the subsidy cost needed to keep it low......at N163.[/s]

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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:46pm On Feb 13, 2022
Dorcmass:
na why goD created leg for me
abeg if dey wan increase price
they should increase it

Lol I laugh In Swahili. Just pray shiiiithole doesn't start TAXING or Collect that Leg from you Or make It useless for you. Pray, Be Vigilant & Steadfast. Black Men are hellbent on destroying themselves In this Perilous Times.....
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:47pm On Feb 13, 2022
GemUnique:
Smh

This is what we get when we can't use what we have

Abundant Crude Oil yet we import. Who cursed Nigeria?!

Because, you guys don't want to pay the high price for fuel to refine it at home.

Niger republic has a single refinery. Fuel from that refinery is sold at N350. Yet because of that, they have enough profit to maintain that refinery, and export to Nigeria and everywhere else.

We can refine fuel at home. But the thing is, we have to be willing to pay what the refiner, and the market wants us to pay. And if they decide that it costs N400 for them to earn profit, so be it. The profit can be invested in refining fuel to standard.

If you want government to pay the price, and set subsidy, wake up to the fact that most of our subsidy money comes from crude oil revenue, which is not sufficent enough for our needs, because of our large populaiton and fluctuating oil prices. So, either tax everyone, or remove subsidy.

To keep subsidy costs low, we refine our crude in substandard refinTereis in Belgium and Holland.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:48pm On Feb 13, 2022
verybadmouth:
If our refineries were working optimally, we wouldn't be talking all this nonsense now. Foolish Govt

They would have been if we had run them profitably.

Instead we ran them at a loss, meaning there wasn't enough money to keep them running well, especially for maintenance, and upgrades.

That is why Dangote must be allowed to sell fuel at a high prices....because subsidy would make it difficult for him to earn the profit he needs to keep his refinery working well.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by BigDawsNet: 3:49pm On Feb 13, 2022
backbencher:


Because you guys would insist on buying fuel at N100 and below, even if it cost N300 to refine that liter of fuel

That's why we lost our refineries, and why, unless your name is Dangote, and you have the collateral for loans for building the refinery, none of your billionaires, millionaires would be interested in building refinery. They don't want to lose money.

A businessman does not run a charity. They too want to recoup their investment and make profit...not just so that they can build big mansion to house their fifth wife, or sidechick, but also to pay for expansion, maintenance, upgrades to the refinery, as well as staff welfare (the last is important, because no one is going to work in the oil industry for N20000 salary a month. )

We lost our 4 NNPC refinereis because we ran them at a loss in the name of subsidy

Businessmen also don't like government setting their prices, because government won't let them make a profit.

So, they keep away from refinereis.


I get your point

But what's the solution now

We can't continue to refine outside, tho DANGOTE is working towards solving the issue but are we going to rely on DANGOTE alone
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:50pm On Feb 13, 2022
wifeesnatcher:
shameless country, ordinarily if all this money you're borrowing was used to build at least four Refineries in Nigeria, the issue of adulterated and subsidy won't be coming up



foolish Government (FG)

Well, it could be, but then there would be no money for salaries, projects, education, health (both last two are subsidsied), and so on.

We take loans because crude oil prices since 2014, and even long before that, have been too low to fund our budget adequately.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 13, 2022
Donlamzy:
A oil producing country importing petrol, what a shame

Because government in the late 1980's decided to subsidse fuel ie....sell fuel below what it cost to produce it, and pay a subsidy that in theory covered the resulting losses, but in practice is inadequate, and in addition is decimated by corruption and stealing.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by BigDawsNet: 3:53pm On Feb 13, 2022
executive12:


Nigeria has no real billionaire. Most are treasury looters.

You think Alakija stole some funds?? grin
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:53pm On Feb 13, 2022
BigDawsNet:



I get your point

But what's the solution now

We can't continue to refine outside, tho DANGOTE is working towards solving the issue but are we going to rely on DANGOTE alone

Simple enough

Allow the market to set the price of petrol

Yes, we would spend high , but we would incentivise domestic refining eventually.NNPC might make enough of a profit to even take loans to repair and rebuild refinereis.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:54pm On Feb 13, 2022
Evolutionlove:
When seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea,
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by BigDawsNet: 3:55pm On Feb 13, 2022
backbencher:


Simple enough

Allow the market to set the price of petrol

Yes, we would spend high , but we would incentivise domestic refining eventually.NNPC might make enough of a profit to even take loans to repair and rebuild refinereis.


Good point
But in a country like Nigeria, what's the percentage of that happening.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 3:59pm On Feb 13, 2022
georgeakins:
Why can't a state like Lagos build a refinery?

Because by the time the refinery is finished, Lagosians and Nigerians would insist on buying fuel from the refinery at a very cheap price. Some would even insist that Lagos residents should buy fuel at N100 or less...some would even say it should be free....

Meaning lagos would have to pay a subsidy to prevent the refinery from collapsing...which might work, until the cost of production rises beyond what the subsidy can cover it.

At the end, the refinery won't make enough of a profit, and would be shut down in ten years because it is old and decrepit, due to it not making enough to keep itself running.

One Northern state once set up a chain of 'pay-less' stores, where everyone could 'pay-less' for everything. Eventually the thing collapsed.It was predictably losing money, and the money the state poured into it did not cover the losses (plus people were still patronizing the supposedly exploitative for profit provision stores it was supposed to compete against)

If you were running a business, and you sold stuff below the cost of making said stuff, you would go broke.

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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 4:01pm On Feb 13, 2022
BigDawsNet:



Good point
But in a country like Nigeria, what's the percentage of that happening.

Probably not possible. We all think that we must buy fuel cheap....

The thing is, as harsh as it sounds, Nigerians have to realize that profits are needed for any business to run. If a refinery is not making a profit, because we want to buy petrol at cheap prices, we would get substandard products.

Thanks.

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Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 4:04pm On Feb 13, 2022
stevnwigw1:
Fear oyigbo, very wicked people, the last time I checked Belgium is not an oil-producing country, yet has a functional oil refinery.

Actually, Belgium has functional standard refinereis, and refinereis where substandard Petrol is prodcued.

We refine our crude in the substandard refinery simply because Nigerians want to buy fuel at N163 or less , and government does not want to spend something like N500 or more per liter subsidisng fuel, otherwise they would be running at a loss.

Belgium refines fuel and sells it at N809 per liter (a bit is accounted for by taxes). Now, if we refined our crude in a standard Belgian refinery, landing cost would probably be at N800-1000 if not higher, meanwhile we want to sell fuel at N163, meaning government would be paying subsidy of over N1000 per liter, instead of the N120 per liter it is paying now.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 4:07pm On Feb 13, 2022
MansoryMX:


If Nigeria Government is not tribalistic they would have bundled up all those illegal bunkery refining fuel and use them by building mini refineries around those South south regions to meet Nigeria’s demand for fuel.

1.Even if they did that, the mini refineries still have to run at a profit, meaning that whatever they set as price has to be paid at the pump for them to run profitably.

2.Meaning, even with your solution, fuel won't cost less than N200 per liter. Man has to eat.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Owen247: 4:10pm On Feb 13, 2022
Jostoman:
They should stop all this nonsense they are doing because they want to increase fuel pump price.
Leave dem make dem dey reject,since dem no wan fix our refinaries.
Re: FG Rejects Two Cargoes Of Adulterated Petrol Imported From Belgium by Nobody: 4:14pm On Feb 13, 2022
tenpipsperday:
Buhari government will destroy refineries in niger delta that produce clean pms and label them illegal but will go to Belgium to import nonsense from the legal refineries.


Who else believes with me that buhari is a curse on the people of this country.

Well, the pms from the mushroom refinereis is cleaner than the 'belgium' petrol, but the mushroom refinereis still

1.Produce substandard PMS, it just happens to be better than the belgium refinery product.

2.Have a negative impact on the environment while doing so.

I suppose government can invest in equipping them with training and modern equipment...but that means the cost of production would shoot up, and at the end of the day, fuel from the mushroom refineres would still be above N300 per liter.

All these problems exist because Nigerians do not want to pay high for standard fuel. We want cheap fuel. And it is cheap, but substandard fuel we are getting.

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