I am on a journey to discover the true essence of Christian relationship. Your thoughts and experiences are welcome.

digitite:
I am on a journey to discover the true essence of Christian relationship. Your thoughts and experiences are welcome.

My thought is all human relationships follow the same pattern based on the personality constructs involved in the relationship. Being a religious person doesn't mean you know how to sustain good relationship or that the weakness of your personality construct won't present a challenge to your relationship. The most important thing to realise in a relationship is you are flawed humans trying your best to make it work.

LordReed2nd:


My thought is all human relationships follow the same pattern based on the personality constructs involved in the relationship. Being a religious person doesn't mean you know how to sustain good relationship or that the weakness of your personality construct won't present a challenge to your relationship. The most important thing to realise in a relationship is you are flawed humans trying your best to make it work.

I understand what you are saying. But does the Holy Spirit play a part in Christian relationship. Instead of relying on our carnal nature ?

digitite:
I am on a journey to discover the true essence of Christian relationship. Your thoughts and experiences are welcome.

A Christian relationship is a spiritual one. The foundation of a Christian relationship is first of all the mutual love and submission to Christ and then love towards one another.

digitite:
I understand what you are saying. But does the Holy Spirit play a part in Christian relationship. Instead of relying on our carnal nature ?

Define this "Carnal nature" you speak of?

Kobojunkiee:
Define this "Carnal nature" you speak of?

Relationship by human nature.

Hey Kobojunkiee. Wow longtime. Where and how have you been ?

Steep:

A Christian relationship is a spiritual one. The foundation of a Christian relationship is first of all the mutual love and submission to Christ and then love towards one another.

I love your post. God bless you.

digitite:
Relationship by human nature.

Hey Kobojunkiee. Wow longtime. Where and how have you been ?

I have been back on almost 2 years now.
Unlike before, I barely spend any time in politics section though... I found God and quit that foolishness.

Kobojunkiee:
I have been back on almost 2 years now.
Unlike before, I barely spend any time in politics section though... I found God and quit that foolishness.

Me too. I left politics long time ago. Almost got heart attack because of it. I found God and wow I found you back. So what's up ?

Kobojunkiee:
I have been back on almost 2 years now.
Unlike before, I barely spend any time in politics section though... I found God and quit that foolishness.

digitite:


I understand what you are saying. But does the Holy Spirit play a part in Christian relationship. Instead of relying on our carnal nature ?

You'll have to ask someone who believes in the holy spirit. I am basing my statements on what I have observed of relationships among many types of people, it does not appear to me that Christian relationships have a special component.

digitite:


I understand what you are saying. But does the Holy Spirit play a part in Christian relationship. Instead of relying on our carnal nature ?

A Christian is filled with The Holy Spirit but church goers are filled with evil spirits, having need to receive The Holy Spirit.

Thus, He that is filled with The Holy Spirit has a Guide in all things including marriage relationship.

And a Christian, by reason of his receiption of The Holy Spirit, is automatically guided in all things and The Laws of God Rule.

Hence a Christian relationship is one in which the Christians are fueled and ruled by the Law and Spirit of God totally and exclusively.

LordReed2nd:


You'll have to ask someone who believes in the holy spirit. I am basing my statements on what I have observed of relationships among many types of people, it does not appear to me that Christian relationships have a special component.

We do have special components only that you would hardly see a Christian relationship. For even the seeing of a single Christian man is scarce not to talk of a Christian female, not to talk of a Christian couple.

What is more popular is church goers relationships.

digitite:
Me too. I left politics long time ago. Almost got heart attack because of it. I found God and wow I found you back. So what's up ?

Not much! Just here for a good discussion and chance to tell what God has given me understanding of..

About what you said of relationship by human nature, why is that "Carnal" since Jesus Christ never really condemned us for it.

Dtruthspeaker:


We do have special components only that you would hardly see a Christian relationship. For even the seeing of a single Christian man is scarce not to talk of a Christian female, not to talk of a Christian couple.

What is more popular is church goers relationships.

Ah Ok. So how scarce are you guys, I assume believe you are one of the scarce Christians. How do you meet a partner? The holy spirit directs you to their house?

LordReed2nd:

My thought is all human relationships follow the same pattern based on the personality constructs involved in the relationship. Being a religious person doesn't mean you know how to sustain good relationship or that the weakness of your personality construct won't present a challenge to your relationship. The most important thing to realise in a relationship is you are flawed humans trying your best to make it work.

I love it when you come around to reason like a normal human instead of trolling just to make jest of people's believes. Don't you see how sound this makes you look?

Now this is what relationship in Christianity is all about. When God created the first female and introduced her to Adam the first male his reaction shows that Adam really appreciate what he saw {Genesis 2:23} this means before going into any relationship you must take a careful look at the man/woman you want to engage in this long journey.
As a man, are you really attracted to her?
As a woman, will you always feel him as your king? This is very important because based on feelings both genders differ in nature: the male always want to be RESPECTED while the female always want to be LOVED! Ephesians 5:33
When this is settled the only vital part that you may not feel is necessary due to your own opinion presently is FAITH, they must first agree on who should have the final say regarding how they must continue to deal with each other.
That's when the third person "GOD" is really needed in their matrimony, if they both agreed to put GOD first in their marriage it will be extremely difficult for anything to break that cord! Ecclesiastes 4:12
Hobbies, dressings, food, house chores, raising children, families and friends will not be given undue attention as they both stick to each other till death part them!

LordReed2nd:


Ah Ok. So how scarce are you guys, I assume believe you are one of the scarce Christians. How do you meet a partner? The holy spirit directs you to their house?

Very scarce. If Solomon saw only 1 in a1000 in his day, I definitely fathom that the number is probably higher than 2000 today.

How do we meet our spouses? The experience can only be described with these words "pleasantly shocking, mouth opening wonder full, you see that God truly knows you more than you and therefore knows what you want even more than you and you learn that your partner is truly a Gift from God (Blessings), you see the fulfillment of The Law "He made them male and female" (Twins)

MaxInDHouse:


I love it when you come around to reason like a normal human instead of trolling just to make jest of people's believes. Don't you see how sound this makes you look?

It isn't trolling to point out misinformation. You are free to believe in your favourite Hebrew/Jewish myths all you want but the instant you add misinformation into the mix, you step into the arena to be challenged with hard facts.

Dtruthspeaker:


Very scarce. If Solomon saw only 1 in a1000 in his day, I definitely fathom that the number is probably higher than 2000 today.

How do we meet our spouses? The experience can only be described with these words "pleasantly shocking, mouth opening wonder full, you see that God truly knows you more than you and therefore knows what you want even more than you and you learn that your partner is truly a Gift from God (Blessings), you see the fulfillment of The Law "He made them male and female" (Twins)

So I guess you people don't have great reproduction rates or your children decide not to be super scarce like you or what?

LordReed2nd:

It isn't trolling to point out misinformation. You are free to believe in your favourite Hebrew/Jewish myths all you want but the instant you add misinformation into the mix, you step into the arena to be challenged with hard facts.

Anything that makes you feel good my friend!

MaxInDHouse:


Anything that makes you feel good my friend!

Sure, reality makes me feel good my guy.

LordReed2nd:


So I guess you people don't have great reproduction rates or your children decide not to be super scarce like you or what?

It's their turn to choose to live or die.

I very much love living as Tyrion would say and I am very satisfied with my choice of choosing to live.

So, again, it is their turn to choose and exercise their Right to Live or Die.

Kobojunkie:
Not much! Just here for a good discussion and chance to tell what God has given me understanding of..

About what you said of relationship by human nature, why is that "Carnal" since Jesus Christ never really condemned us for it.

Having the spirit of Jesus Christ. For example, when I date you and you have the understanding that when mistakes are made, it is induced by our carnal nature. But when things go smoothly, it is by the power of the Holy spirit and we pray and strive for God to make it better.

LordReed2nd:


You'll have to ask someone who believes in the holy spirit. I am basing my statements on what I have observed of relationships among many types of people, it does not appear to me that Christian relationships have a special component.

I see. I respect your observation. My understanding is that in a Christian relationship you can never hear argument , materialism, violence and it happens without any effort from both parties.

Dtruthspeaker:


A Christian is filled with The Holy Spirit but church goers are filled with evil spirits, having need to receive The Holy Spirit.

Thus, He that is filled with The Holy Spirit has a Guide in all things including marriage relationship.

And a Christian, by reason of his receiption of The Holy Spirit, is automatically guided in all things and The Laws of God Rule.

Hence a Christian relationship is one in which the Christians are fueled and ruled by the Law and Spirit of God totally and exclusively.

Absolute answer. In fact you have given me an idea for a book. 'The power of the Holy Spirit in a Christian Relationship'. I am really keen on understanding how the Holy spirit works in our lives.

digitite:
Having the spirit of Jesus Christ. For example, when I date you and you have the understanding that when mistakes are made, it is induced by our carnal nature. But when things go smoothly, it is by the power of the Holy spirit and we pray and strive for God to make it better.

I still don't follow.... explain what you mean by mistakes are induced by our carnal nature please.

Where does this idea of yours that when things go smoothly in your relationships, it is by the power of the Holy Spirit come from?

digitite:
I see. I respect your observation. My understanding is that in a Christian relationship you can never hear argument , materialism, violence and it happens without any effort from both parties.

A "Christian" relationship? The only kind of Christian relationship there is is the relationship we have with our fellow man or neighbor - Jesus Christ taught us to do to others as we would like others do to us. So I every circumstance, we are meant to obey the Commandments of Jesus Christ.

Now, if your assumptions of instead that a "Christian" relationship is a romantic relationship or that which you have with those related to you by blood, then I put it to you that you have it twisted. There are no special laws given for your special relationships as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned.

Kobojunkie:
I still don't follow.... explain what you mean by mistakes are induced by our carnal nature please.

Where does this idea of yours that when things go smoothly in your relationships, it is by the power of the Holy Spirit come from?

That we are not perfect. That finding the right partner that will be in sync with you can ENTIRELY happen by God's direction.

Because I am at the stage whereby settling down has to do with one's manifestation of their heart desire. Moreover, it is a very private conversation, if you wanna chat more on that , hit me up on whatsapp. Kobojunckie you don't change with your intuitive questions.

digitite:
Absolute answer. In fact you have given me an idea for a book. 'The power of the Holy Spirit in a Christian Relationship'. I am really keen on understanding how the Holy spirit works in our lives.

The Holy Spirit works the same in all of our relationships with our fellow man.

Kobojunkie:
A "Christian" relationship? The only kind of Christian relationship there is is the relationship we have with our fellow man or neighbor - Jesus Christ taught us to do to others as we would like others do to us. So I every circumstance, we are meant to obey the Commandments of Jesus Christ.

Now, if your assumptions of instead that a "Christian" relationship is a romantic relationship or that which you have with those related to you by blood, then I put it to you that you have it twisted. There are no special laws given for your special relationships as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned.

I am talking about a Romantic Christian Relationship that eventually leads to marriage. Anything bad or unpleasant that happens to it must be by Evil spirits from the Kingdom of hell.

Kobojunkie:
The Holy Spirit works the same in all of our relationships with our fellow man.

Really ? What about those who don't recognise the existence of the Holy Spirit ?

digitite:
1. That we are not perfect. That finding the right partner that will be in sync with you can ENTIRELY happen by God's direction.

2. Because I am at the stage whereby settling down has to do with one's manifestation of their heart desire. Moreover, it is a very private conversation, if you wanna chat more on that , hit me up on whatsapp. Kobojunckie you don't change with your intuitive questions.

1. The Holy Spirit only lives In those who have been made perfect though. This since He is Holy and can only abide in vessels who are perfect Holy and without blemish.

Also, Jesus Christ taught us that our marriages are of this world and not His Kingdom - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 - so if finding yourself a partner note Jesus Christ did not teach that such a partner has to believe nor did He say anything regarding such things. All that is written is that marriage is between a man and woman and divorce is only allowed in the case of fornication. That aside, you are free to marry anyone you choose.

2. Just so you know, marrigae is not mandatory since God created some Eunuchs from birth, He allowed some to become Eunuchs in this life and permitted others to live as Eunuchs for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 1 - 12. So do not feel pressured to make a decision in these things as if by God..