neuf:


Go educate yourself first before showcasing your ignorance on a public forum

I am a core USA fan

But we can't hide the truth

Neither USA or Russia no know one will win a war between them

neuf:


the reason before you talk. why would they attack Russia?
what's the gain?
Ukraine joins NATO and suddenly NATO goes to war with Russia? like do you even know why NATO was created in the first place?
their objective was to stop Russia communist expansion and that has been achieved a long time ago.
How many European countries aren't part of NATO? Not much and majority that remain are still pro west so why would the attack Russia.

una go just the misyarn anyhow

But then you can’t know better then Putin, you can’t know better than Russians if they don’t want NATO near them they know why they’re doing it, See Nigeria weh we deh face herdsmen everyday una no see something talk or do, na Russian Ukrainian una deh yarn about.. una Ogas them

Dalil8:
Russia: the king of cyber warfare....



Russia is right on this..

When the USSR collapsed Russia and NATO made a deal where NATO would not expand to Russia borders (Ukraine included) which they already have via Baltic states.

That's just the summation of everything. But this kids on this forum don't know anything, they think it's what they watch in movies

The USA is not really a good guy per say, they love invading on sovereign nations.

Good. In the same light should Cuba ba allied to Russia, and Russian military camp and missiles deployed to Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico

US of A are the hypocrites here

sotall:


Russia is a bully. How do you tell a sovereign state not to join an organization( NATO) just because they are your rivals or competitors?


At the end, Russia will meet its loo.

Topmaike007:
oga watch news no come online dey type wetin you no Know...Russia can never allow Ukraine join Nato because there is agreement between them ever before many of Nairaland kids were born

Russia's actions are only "initial gragra". Russia will be dealt with if she attacks Ukraine; and Putin knows that. I'm only seeing the politics of the super powers in display. At the end of the day, Putin will openly be seen as a weakling.

NB can you assist me with any material regarding the agreement between Russia and Ukraine

Thanks learned comrade

diesel86:
Anyone who says Russia is a bully does not know jack , So they should allow Ukraine to be a launchpad for western blocks offensive against them, something America would never allow .

ken6488:

I am a core USA fan

But we can't hide the truth

Neither USA or Russia no know one will win a war between them

what's my business which side you're on?

samfrancis1:
But then you can’t know better then Putin, you can’t know better than Russians if they don’t want NATO near them they know why they’re doing it, See Nigeria weh we deh face herdsmen everyday una no see something talk or do, na Russian Ukrainian una deh yarn about.. una Ogas them

Russia just want to stay relevant hence the shouting and show of force.
Nothing more Nothing less. Without making an enemy out of an alliance that's meant to protect Europe and Northern Atlantic, Russian relevant won't be felt.

When the world needs the so called Super powers to show up like in the war against terror, what help has Russia been? Yet these groups are proscribed in Russia but guess the alliance that send men and spend their money to actually do something about it?

NATO don't need to fight Russia over anything. Which countries provide majority of energy supply to Europe? Russia.
So using logic, why would you be dependent on your "enemy" for something so critical if NATO was to be as seen from Russia?

think

RapistOnBail:

Buhari should send some of our gallant policemen to restore normalcy where it’ll be needed most in Ukraine.

To be led and commanded by Abba Kyari!

nedekid:

You actually think nato is a defensive alliance? That is laughable. Why then was it expanded all the way from western Europe to the east to the boarder of Russia? Russia has remained as Russian why has nato expanded since it is defensive adding 30 countries, having US troops and equipment etc.
The only purpose for nato is to contain Russia!
You cannot have your aggressor at your front potch. That way why Russia pushed back against Georgia and the Cia trained president 2008.
Are you aware Victoria nuland spent 5b usd staging a coup in Ukraine? Just Google it.
Isreal bombs Iranian forces in syria, why? They will not allow Iran to set up base near their boarder.
The US will not allow Russian troops in Mexico, South America etc, they will fight a war whether you are a sovereign country or not.
Is Syria not a sovereign country? Why are US troops there? Who gave them permission? Up till the point they have taken over the oil resources of that country and using the earnings as they wish.
The world is more complicated jare.
The US wants to dominate. Russia and recently China are the only push back.
US defense budge is $800b, Russia is 60b.
The US has over 800 military bases around the world. Russia has only one outside its territory which is in Syria.
Who then is the aggressor?

Your points are valid! But as long as you accept aids from the USA, you automatically colonize yourself to them. Russia on the other hand have been maintaining their status quo!

Whether you like it or not, you have to give it to the USA. The are the worlds police and big brother. The USA will protect its assets home and abroad. The rough nato, the USA will resist all efforts of Russia trying to muscle Ukraine! Take this to the bank

neuf:


just like how you guys heard of MAD and be blowing it out of proportion without knowing what you are saying. The same is happening with the Cuban Missile crisis.

let me ask you this simple question. Which country is Cuba ally? is it not Russia? Is America making fuse about it?
Go and read about the Cuban Missile crisis first before throwing it all willy nilly.

what caused the Cuban missile crisis? US deployment of missiles to turkey(a nato State today) and Italy(another nato State)..after the Cuban missile crisis does missiles where removed abi?
but today you not only have us bases at turkey and Italy but also former Warsaw pact countries like;Poland,Czech Republic....which are some of the 14 Warsaw pact countries(remember Warsaw pact was signed to keep NATO in check)..today Ukraine,that borders Russia wants to join Nato,ain't that an encroachment?? if US could not allow then Soviet Union have ballistic armament close to em then why should they have an anti-russian base in a country that borders Russia (also remember Ukraine ssr, Russ ssr and byelorussian ssr where the key States of the Soviet Union) which are under Russia's sphere of influence..This is encroachment and disregard to Russia's power. The US would not allow any country in its sphere of influence (western hemisphere) frolick with russia.take Cuba for example,which the US has placed sanctions on (1960s to date)..
Oga Russia would not tolerate..US bases in Italy, Greece, Poland,Estonia,Latvia, Lithuania,Romania; and Russia has none in the western hemisphere..

nairaman66:


Your points are valid! But as long as you accept aids from the USA, you automatically colonize yourself to them. Russia on the other hand have been maintaining their status quo!

Whether you like it or not, you have to give it to the USA. The are the worlds police and big brother. The USA will protect its assets home and abroad. The rough nato, the USA will resist all efforts of Russia trying to muscle Ukraine! Take this to the bank

Belarus and Ukraine are two countries Russia would not let go without a scuffle..and also EU would not let this US madness go on for long because they stand to lose more;Russian oil and gas accounts for 27 percent of EU oil and gas import.Them no go gree make us gra gra make Dem lose a key energy partner (and remember NATO funding issue raised by trump)

Jonesemmy:
Belarus and Ukraine are two countries Russia would not let go without a scuffle..and also EU would not let this US madness go on for long because they stand to lose more;Russian oil and gas accounts for 27 percent of EU oil and gas import.Them no go gree make us gra gra make Dem lose a key energy partner (and remember NATO funding issue raised by trump)

True. But the focal point of our argument still stands. The USA will not sit back and watch Russia attack Ukraine. Either Russia show some restraints in this scuffle, or the highway.

nairaman66:


True. But the focal point of our argument still stands. The USA will not sit back and watch Russia attack Ukraine. Either Russia show some restraints in this scuffle, or the highway.

Eastern Europe is Russia's sphere of influence,all these the US is doing is just a show of power to try and increase their sphere of interest via NATO and Russia would not sit back and watch US encroach.
82% chances that there might be no war,just show of military might(like the cold war days)..Them both are "politricking" to advertise and sell their arms.
EU would not want to lose cheap Russian oil and gas nor would Russia want to lose EU as a trading partner.
P.S. Putin wants to put US(NATO) in check and US wants to test how weak/strong present day Russia is

Jonesemmy:

Eastern Europe is Russia's sphere of influence,all these the US is doing is just a show of power to try and increase their sphere of interest via NATO and Russia would not sit back and watch US encroach.
82% chances that there might be no war,just show of military might(like the cold war days)..Them both are "politricking" to advertise and sell their arms.
EU would not want to lose cheap Russian oil and gas nor would Russia want to lose EU as a trading partner.
P.S. Putin wants to put US(NATO) in check and US wants to test how weak/strong present day Russia is

Exactly my point! But you said it better. It is simply show off from both the USA and Russia. Ukraine is just a pawn in the chess game!

Jonesemmy:

what caused the Cuban missile crisis? US deployment of missiles to turkey(a nato State today) and Italy(another nato State)..after the Cuban missile crisis does missiles where removed abi?
but today you not only have us bases at turkey and Italy but also former Warsaw pact countries like;Poland,Czech Republic....which are some of the 14 Warsaw pact countries(remember Warsaw pact was signed to keep NATO in check)..today Ukraine,that borders Russia wants to join Nato,ain't that an encroachment?? if US could not allow then Soviet Union have ballistic armament close to em then why should they have an anti-russian base in a country that borders Russia (also remember Ukraine ssr, Russ ssr and byelorussian ssr where the key States of the Soviet Union) which are under Russia's sphere of influence..This is encroachment and disregard to Russia's power. The US would not allow any country in its sphere of influence (western hemisphere) frolick with russia.take Cuba for example,which the US has placed sanctions on (1960s to date)..
Oga Russia would not tolerate..US bases in Italy, Greece, Poland,Estonia,Latvia, Lithuania,Romania; and Russia has none in the western hemisphere..

SMH... What exactly is Russian sphere of influence?
You guys are so blind to the cause of an action but quick to condemn the consequences. Sorry if I sound rude in my reply, just that I've been answering such unintelligent comments for so long now it's getting to my nerve.

1) The objective of NATO formation had already been achieved after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Organisation has evolved since then to focus solely on the security of Europe and counterterrorism.

2) Russia is the one trying to find a common enemy to rally against which coincidentally NATO fits the bill. Why? if you care to ask, because without a common external enemy, the people begin to ask for good governance and what caused the fall of the Soviet Union will cause the fall of Russian Government elites. Case in point, Putin critic that is under trial in Moscow now, look at the mass following he amassed within a short period.

3) NATO membership is open to Democratic government in Europe. They don't go about sharing flyers and asking you to join. The countries that do join have to submit a formal request, meet specific requirements before they are considered and voted by member state to become part of the Organisation.

4) This isn't the first time Ukraine has requested to join. NATO rejected them the first time so if they were really after Russia, why would they do that?

5) Ukraine is a sovereign state that can make its own decision. Comparing Ukraine to Cuba reeks of ignorance, I'm sorry.
If Russia didn't want Ukraine to consider NATO membership then they wouldn't have annexed Crimea or back separatists in Eastern Ukraine.
You don't fight with your brother and then cry about it with he decide to join forces with a stranger.

But that's a strange concept for you guys to understand because you guys are so flawed to always believe Russia is the victim and the US is always wicked

neuf:


SMH... What exactly is Russian sphere of influence?
You guys are so blind to the cause of an action but quick to condemn the consequences. Sorry if I sound rude in my reply, just that I've been answering such unintelligent comments for so long now it's getting to my nerve.

1) The objective of NATO formation had already been achieved after the fall of the Soviet Union. The Organisation has evolved since then to focus solely on the security of Europe and counterterrorism.

2) Russia is the one trying to find a common enemy to rally against which coincidentally NATO fits the bill. Why? if you care to ask, because without a common external enemy, the people begin to ask for good governance and what caused the fall of the Soviet Union will cause the fall of Russian Government elites. Case in point, Putin critic that is under trial in Moscow now, look at the mass following he amassed within a short period.

3) NATO membership is open to Democratic government in Europe. They don't go about sharing flyers and asking you to join. The countries that do join have to submit a formal request, meet specific requirements before they are considered and voted by member state to become part of the Organisation.

4) This isn't the first time Ukraine has requested to join. NATO rejected them the first time so if they were really after Russia, why would they do that?

5) Ukraine is a sovereign state that can make its own decision. Comparing Ukraine to Cuba reeks of ignorance, I'm sorry.
If Russia didn't want Ukraine to consider NATO membership then they wouldn't have annexed Crimea or back separatists in Eastern Ukraine.
You don't fight with your brother and then cry about it with he decide to join forces with a stranger.

But that's a strange concept for you guys to understand because you guys are so flawed to always believe Russia is the victim and the US is always wicked

good points
though you got it all tainted with your choice of words at las.

it's no hidden fact that NATO is to US as ECOWAS is to Nigeria,just an appendage of influence,and in other words NATO bases are US bases which Russia can not tolerate as close as Ukraine. where does US deploy troops to in NATO drills?? if not NATO basesin Eastern Europe)..

As for claims of fight against terrorism.
who trained/armed Al-Qaeda and Talibans,Hamas,LNA of Libya?? oh c'mon??

we saw democracy happen and still happening in Syria, Iraq and Libya(Russia was able to negotiate cease fire in Syria and Libya after US' demolition
(and it's coincidental?? only subsaharan Africa and middle East are facing the brunt of the terror)
....
The US and Russia/China are polar powers who doesn't approve the methods of the other
it'd nothing beyond rivalry (politics and power show)..haven't you heard of the Egypt and Ethopia rivalry..
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Jonesemmy:


good points
though you got it all tainted with your choice of words

one of the reasons I apologise in advance

and if Russia invades Ukraine US would not act militarily but sanction,Ukraine is not NATO thus didnt sign the joint-military pact..Even Joe Biden said he can't send troops to Ukraine should Russia invade

neuf:


one of the reasons I apologise in advance

Hey man,
if you goon be rude/polite,do it with all confidence and take whatever comes after..

Can you say that about America?

America will never allow any country link to Russia to have footprint anyway near their country.


Cuba comes to mind.

sotall:


Russia is a bully. How do you tell a sovereign state not to join an organization( NATO) just because they are your rivals or competitors?


At the end, Russia will meet its loo.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Just Normal bad service
They should fix it

And bloggers should stop linking it to Russia invasion

What you all don't understand....is that nobody be super man for this century
You can't look down and threaten any nation...

Nobody is invading anyone.....any country try am
..body go tell that country...
As at today every nation got its own cyber lord and commanders that can repel attack, ensure cyber security, penetration and advance computing...
So no nation can fuckkk with any nation and go scot free

coman re-edit!

Necksonnel:


Iran is not a stable country. Most people there are not rational. They can launch nuclear weapons at any slight provocation which is dangerous. The world does not want that. Imagine what is happening btw Russia and Ukraine now. If it's Iran with the amount of nuclear weapons Russia have, it would be another story by now. Even with everything Russia still want to fight on the ground and not threatening to nuke Ukraine every second. That show real strength and been sensible.

Is it American that have fought o we 100 war and invaded country that is stable, or first country to used nuke.