Skyfornia:
Presidency from Igbo extraction is not the solution...divide this country!

Penguin2:
One of the arguments made by some misguided section of Nigerians is that APC ‘can’t’ zone it’s presidential ticket to the Southeast because Igbos have no stake in the APC.

Now, the question is, “do Igbos truly have no stake in APC”?

To help us answer that question, let us go back to the very formation of the party.

At the time of formation of the party, an Igbo man, Ogbonnaya Onu, was the national chairman of ANPP with two sitting governors in Zamfara and Borno.

Rochas Okorocha, an Igbo man, led the part of APGA that joined the formation of the.

Chris Ngige, an Igbo man, was there from the formation of the party.

This is not talking about numerous other Igbos who are not as popular who joined the formation from even CPC, ANPP, ACN and APGA.

These men joined in the formation of APC when they did not know what the future held for the new party or how the sitting president then would treat them; they joined Tinubu and his part of Southwest in taking all the risk.

Those are foundational Igbo men of APC.

More recently, more Igbos like Orji Uzor Kalu, Umahi, Hope Uzodimma, Ken Nnamani, Alex Otti, Anambra Sitting Deputy Governor and numerous other Igbo sons and daughters, have all joined the APC and made contributions to its success and overall existence.

So what else is stake-holding in an enterprise if all these isn’t?

The argument is simple, whatever claim Tinubu and his Southwest bloc would claim to have to APC presidential ticket because of their contributions to the party, the Igbo politicians in APC equally has it.

If anything, the CPC bloc of APC got the presidency in 2015, ACN bloc got the Vice Presidency. 2023 is the reward time for ANPP, APGA and NPDP bloc.

Penguin is a bird of reason!

fyneguy:


Having huge stakes is not about feather-weight Igbos being members of APC, it's largely about the electoral fortune of the Party in the SE. Only a stupid party will give its Presidential ticket to someone from a region, where the people will not vote the Party. It's tantamount to suicide.

Ekpeitit:
NO,YOU ONLY HAVE STAKE IN BIAFRA.
NOTHING FOR meth PEOPLE.

fyneguy:


Having huge stakes is not about feather-weight Igbos being members of APC, it's largely about the electoral fortune of the Party in the SE. Only a stupid party will give its Presidential ticket to someone from a region, where the people will not vote the Party. It's tantamount to suicide.

Penguin2:


But PDP wasn’t stupid when it gave Obasanjo its ticket in 1999 even as it was obvious that Southwest won’t vote for him and actually ended up not voting for him?

And talking about heavyweight and lightweight politicians, how weighty was Jonathan when he became running mate to Yaradua and eventually became president?

How weighty was Osinbajo when he became running mate to Buhari and is about finishing his 8 years as Vice President?

Or because Tinubu is urinating around you now think he’s the only heavyweight politician there is?

Look, God chooses the unqualified to shame those who think they are qualified.

Penguin2:


But PDP wasn’t stupid when it gave Obasanjo its ticket in 1999 even as it was obvious that Southwest won’t vote for him and actually ended up not voting for him?

And talking about heavyweight and lightweight politicians, how weighty was Jonathan when he became running mate to Yaradua and eventually became president?

How weighty was Osinbajo when he became running mate to Buhari and is about finishing his 8 years as Vice President?

Or because Tinubu is urinating around you now think he’s the only heavyweight politician there is?

Look, God chooses the weak to shame those who think they are strong.

BeardedmeatR:
Did yorubas vote OBJ in his first outing? Even his ward didn't vote for him. Did it stop him from winning?

Tambaringabas:


First, its very myiopic to compare the contributions made by regions to the APC because other regions certainly made more contributions than others and if politics is about patronage and payback, those regions deserve presidency before se.


Obj became president when other regions voted for him.

What region in today's Nigeria will give the Igbo's that privilege?

You created enemies for yourself by your acts, the least you can do is show remorse, submit and build alliance, not threats and blackmails.

If the APC gives its ticket to an Igbo, other regions who carried APC through these 8years will retaliate, most will even vote for whoever the opposition party brings just spite the people in APC and the Igbo's.

The Igbo people dug on themselves a hole.

Igbo candidacy in the APC is a tall order.

Tambaringabas:


The Igbo issue is different entirely, other regions voted for obj, who will vote for Igbo candidates?

Probably some places in ss, (even that), north - most probably not, sw - most probably not.

Tambaringabas:


First, its very myiopic to compare the contributions made by regions to the APC because other regions certainly made more contributions than others and if politics is about patronage and payback, those regions deserve presidency before se.


Obj became president when other regions voted for him.

What region in today's Nigeria will give the Igbo's that privilege?

You created enemies for yourself by your acts, the least you can do is show remorse, submit and build alliance, not threats and blackmails.

If the APC gives its ticket to an Igbo, other regions who carried APC through these 8years will retaliate, most will even vote for whoever the opposition party brings just spite the people in APC and the Igbo's.

The Igbo people dug on themselves a hole.

Igbo candidacy in the APC is a tall order.

Emergingnation3:
Yes, No one is expecting Igbo to be voted
in a country that's not theirs.... Cos Igbo's ain't Nigerians,we are Biafrans....

The Actualization of sovereign state of Biafra is a task that must be accomplished...

Penguin2:


So what happens when APC fields an Igbo man…

And the opposition equally fields an Igbo man…

You lots will stand in queue to either vote an Igbo man or an Igbo man

Eastlink:
Stylishly shifting the goal post. Now Obasanjo became President not because other regions voted for him. Nah! What would a man just released from prison offer than other strong candidates at that time. None if you ask me. Had an Hausa/Fulani or an Igbo allowed the PDP or ANPP candidate I bet you, the votes would surely swing. And many of you would still be singing “On June 12 we stand” till eternity.

Obasanjo was simply seen as a lesser evil by the north and other sections of Nigeria. Fetch two Igbo candidates in the two major parties and you’ll get same result as 1999.

Tambaringabas:


The Igbo issue is different entirely, other regions voted for obj, who will vote for Igbo candidates?

Probably some places in ss, (even that), north - most probably not, sw - most probably not.

Tambaringabas:


Who voted for him by region? That's the key point.

Emergingnation3:
Yes, No one is expecting Igbo to be voted
in a country that's not theirs.... Cos Igbo's ain't Nigerians,we are Biafrans....

The Actualization of sovereign state of Biafra is a task that must be accomplished...

Eastlink:
You can open another thread and invite us to talk about the voting statistics of 1999. The key point of this thread from my observations is simply applying the same thing done for the goose in 1999 for the gander in 2023.

Ekpeitit:
NO,YOU ONLY HAVE STAKE IN BIAFRA.
NOTHING FOR meth PEOPLE.

ProfAmaben:


Your parents must be high on mmpurummiri, you fool, bloody calabar nuisance that can't boast of any notable contribution to humanity except sex

Eastlink:
Stylishly shifting the goal post. Now Obasanjo became President not because other regions loved the SW or the person Obj. Far from it. The stakeholders of Nigeria simply made it easy for the Yoruba’s with the both major parties fielding two south westerners. What would a man just released from prison offer than other strong candidates at that time. None if you ask me. Had an Hausa/Fulani or an Igbo flown the Presidential tickets of the PDP or ANPP I bet you, the votes would surely swing. And many of you would still be singing “On June 12 we stand” till eternity.

Obasanjo was simply seen as a lesser evil by the north and other sections of Nigeria. Fetch two Igbo candidates in the two major parties and you’ll get same result as 1999.

Tambaringabas:


Different strokes for different folks mate.

You are looking at things from a 'its only fair for us to be given' position,

I am speaking from a 'what's on ground position'.

Tambaringabas:


First, I said it will be a tall order: meaning for that (Igbo candidacy in APC) to even happen will take almost a miracle.

Second, there are over 50 registered political parties in Nigeria, you have to make all of them adopt Igbo candidates.

Third, who told you there are only 3 ethnic groups in Nigeria, since the criteria for seeking for Presidency is ethnicity, don't you think it fair to give the other 400+ ethnicities a president from their part so that they feel they belong?