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A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by MangekyoAlt: 9:04pm On Feb 28, 2022
Pleaae try as much as possible to reply me in a civil way.

What would yall have done if you were in Putin's shoes?
US, NATO missiles installed in ukraine would mean NO Russian is safe including putin himself, the president.

Note: An average cruise or even ballistic missile would reach the Kremlin in just 5 minutes. Hypersonic missiles would reach in a lesser time.

Intercontinental ballistic missiles if fired from the USA would reach Russia, or rather Moscow in 30 minutes to 1 hour.

After a few minutes of launch, Russias satellites would detect it, giving putin and russians the time to brace themselves.
Putin will have more than 25 minutes to leave whatever he's doing and go to his bunker where he would be safe. All citizens would be told that ballistic missile have been launched at them and then told what actions to take to likely survive.

Meanwhile, a short ballistic or cruise missile in ukraine fired at russia would leave the russians with very little time to react. This means, the Americans could even kill Putin himself from Ukraine with a missile if they wanted.

Take for instance, Putin is giving a Speech or attending a parade. If a regular missile not hypersonic, is fired supposedly to meet putin, it normally would reach its target, which is Putin in 5 minutes. Probably the missile would be detected by Russia's raders 2 minutes after launch. This means, they will likely have just 3 minutes to launch a missile interceptor. If the interceptor missile somehow manages to miss, which happens from time to time, you will see that putin is pretty much a dead man because he wouldnt have the time to react or go into hiding compared to when ICBM's are fired.

Note: when the Soviet union managed to place their missiles In cuba, they had Americans at the palm of their hands. America would never have been able to defend or even react against a missile fired from Cuba, which is why they were ready and had quickly started plans to invade and rid cuba of those missiles, even if it meant WW3.

Now that brings me back to my question. Ukraine claimed they will join NATO and have since been pushing for NATO membership. USA views Ukraine as very nice location to host their missiles. They don't rule out adding Ukraine and placing those missiles there.

Russia knows that if those missiles are placed at their borders, they will live the remaining of their lives at the mercy of USA. They will start living in fear the moment Ukraine joins NATO. That brings me back to my question.

How would you handle this situation if you were the Russian president? Please no bias. Answer me in a civil manner.

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Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by FERNANDEZISBACK: 9:06pm On Feb 28, 2022
No one will fire any missile to him if he doesn't hurt others.. Ukraine wouldn't have thought of joining NATO if Russia had a better deal..
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by MangekyoAlt: 9:10pm On Feb 28, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
No one will fire any missile to him if he doesn't hurt others.. Ukraine wouldn't have thought of joining NATO if Russia had a better deal..
Ukraine was fairly pro Russian before USA conducted a coup that placed in a pro western goivt there in 2014. Ukraine even declined to join the EU, after they offered them the opportunity to join. Russia offered them a better deal, and they rejected the deal from EU. this is how the protests started. USA and EU backed it, and the pro Russian govt was replaced with this one that is now ass licking them and doing as they're told to do

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Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by rickpat(m): 9:18pm On Feb 28, 2022
thank you for bringing up the Cuba issue...which is totally correct..I even think Cuba still faces sanctions from the Americans till date.

Now firstly,no reason justifies killing..but trust me if Russia plans to form allies with Canada or Cuba or Mexico for example...the USA would do anything to make sure that doesn't happen including invasion,then they will tell us one story...these Americans and the west have a way of forcing opinions down the throat of the world.

finally the Americans,the west and the Russians,NONE OF THEM IS A SAINT...All have motives and this is just power tussle..it's a shame Ukraine is in the middle of all these... Ukraine will never join NATO.. NEVER... Russia can't be that foolish...Poland was ignored to join NATO cus the boundary they share with Russia doesn't lead to Russian mainland...they should just sort themselves out...Russia has warned Finland as well... international politics can be really dirty...all parties (the Americans,the west and the Russians) are all dirty

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Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by advanceDNA: 9:46pm On Feb 28, 2022
MangekyoAlt:
Pleaae try as much as possible to reply me in a civil way.

What would yall have done if you were in Putin's shoes?
US, NATO missiles installed in ukraine would mean NO Russian is safe including putin himself, the president.

Note: An average cruise or even ballistic missile would reach the Kremlin in just 5 minutes. Hypersonic missiles would reach in a lesser time.

Intercontinental ballistic missiles if fired from the USA would reach Russia, or rather Moscow in 30 minutes to 1 hour.

After a few minutes of launch, Russias satellites would detect it, giving putin and russians the time to brace themselves.
Putin will have more than 25 minutes to leave whatever he's doing and go to his bunker where he would be safe. All citizens would be told that ballistic missile have been launched at them and then told what actions to take to likely survive.

Meanwhile, a short ballistic or cruise missile in ukraine fired at russia would leave the russians with very little time to react. This means, the Americans could even kill Putin himself from Ukraine with a missile if they wanted.

Take for instance, Putin is giving a Speech or attending a parade. If a regular missile not hypersonic, is fired supposedly to meet putin, it normally would reach its target, which is Putin in 5 minutes. Probably the missile would be detected by Russia's raders 2 minutes after launch. This means, they will likely have just 3 minutes to launch a missile interceptor. If the interceptor missile somehow manages to miss, which happens from time to time, you will see that putin is pretty much a dead man because he wouldnt have the time to react or go into hiding compared to when ICBM's are fired.

Note: when the Soviet union managed to place their missiles In cuba, they had Americans at the palm of their hands. America would never have been able to defend or even react against a missile fired from Cuba, which is why they were ready and had quickly started plans to invade and rid cuba of those missiles, even if it meant WW3.

Now that brings me back to my question. Ukraine claimed they will join NATO and have since been pushing for NATO membership. USA views Ukraine as very nice location to host their missiles. They don't rule out adding Ukraine and placing those missiles there.

Russia knows that if those missiles are placed at their borders, they will live the remaining of their lives at the mercy of USA. They will start living in fear the moment Ukraine joins NATO. That brings me back to my question.

How would you handle this situation if you were the Russian president? Please no bias. Answer me in a civil manner.

Oga Ade....NATO currently has 30 members...

Of those 30 member, .....Russia has 14 neighbours...which are...

Norway and Finland to the north,
Estonia, Latvia, Belarus [/b]and Ukraine to the north west and west,
[b]Poland, Lithuania, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, China and North Korea
across its southern borders.

Of these 14 neighbors ...5 of them Latvia, Norway, Lithuania, Poland, Estonia, are already part of NATO.... and Latvia is even closer than Ukraine...so stop all those bullshitt about bombing Russia from Ukraine

. if USA wanted to blow Russia back to the Stone Age they would have done it since through this fine nations.... Putin has gone mad, starting a war he can’t win

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Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by somehow: 10:10pm On Feb 28, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
No one will fire any missile to him if he doesn't hurt others.. Ukraine wouldn't have thought of joining NATO if Russia had a better deal..

Which country did Iraq, Libya, Syria or even Yemen hurt?
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by somehow: 10:11pm On Feb 28, 2022
advanceDNA:


Oga Ade....NATO currently has 30 members...

Of those 30 member, .....Russia has 14 neighbours...which are...

Norway and Finland to the north,
Estonia, Latvia, Belarus [/b]and Ukraine to the north west and west,
[b]Poland, Lithuania, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, China and North Korea
across its southern borders.

Of these 14 neighbors ...5 of them Latvia, Norway, Lithuania, Poland, Estonia, are already part of NATO.... and Latvia is even closer than Ukraine...so stop all those bullshitt about bombing Russia from Ukraine

. if USA wanted to blow Russia back to the Stone Age they would have done it since through this fine nations.... Putin has gone mad, starting a war he can’t win

Check your map again.

Part Of Ukraine entered into Russia.

The parts (regions) that are being marginalised by the Kiev Govt and wants to breakaway. (Same thing America went to bomb Serbia for just to let Kosovo become a country of their own).
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by Jokerman(m): 10:15pm On Feb 28, 2022
What about countries that are already in NATO but also share borders with Russia?
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by advanceDNA: 10:45pm On Feb 28, 2022
somehow:


Check your map again.

Part Of Ukraine entered into Russia.

The parts (regions) that are being marginalised by the Kiev Govt and wants to breakaway. (Same thing America went to bomb Serbia for just to let Kosovo become a country of their own).

Be shifting goal post...
Check map for what?? Are these nations I mentioned not surrounding border to Russia??

Your analysis was that Russia is justified to invade Ukraine because US could bomb her easily from Ukraine and she won’t be able to react.

Are there no other NATO nation around Russia The US could use to bomb Russia?? Iresponded based on your analysis...

So you are saying Russia will be justified to attack every nation around it because it wants to feel safe from the United States?? Or it’s just Ukraine
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by Crayfish09: 10:53pm On Feb 28, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
No one will fire any missile to him if he doesn't hurt others.. Ukraine wouldn't have thought of joining NATO if Russia had a better deal..

Tell us whom Serbia, Vietnam, Libya and Iraq hurt before USA destroyed them. You guys act as if we are idiots.

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Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by Crayfish09: 10:56pm On Feb 28, 2022
advanceDNA:


Be shifting goal post...
Check map for what?? Are these nations I mentioned not surrounding border to Russia??

Your analysis was that Russia is justified to invade Ukraine because US could bomb her easily from Ukraine and she won’t be able to react.

Are there no other NATO nation around Russia The US could use to bomb Russia?? Iresponded based on your analysis...

So you are saying Russia will be justified to attack every nation around it because it wants to feel safe from the United States?? Or it’s just Ukraine

It's easier to defend against missiles from those countries compared to Ukraine which is much larger.
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by advanceDNA: 10:58pm On Feb 28, 2022
Crayfish09:


It's easier to defend against missiles from those countries compared to Ukraine which is much larger.

No vex ooo..what are you saying ??
Re: A Genuine Question For The Pro-western People Here by Loverofpeace: 11:29pm On Feb 28, 2022
Oga they will shift goal post no disturb yourself dey ask questions.

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