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Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 4:30pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: I didn't link anything, Jesus linked that....unless you're telling us Jesus is wrong, and you are right. See this verse and read it slowly; Matthew 24 v 15; 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand So feel free to correct Jesus. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 4:31pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
musicwriter: And you think the Jewish temple will not be rebuilt as it was in previous times? Are you implying this temple in Revelation 11 v 1-2 has already been built, desecrated and destroyed? 1. I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. 2. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. Bear in mind Apostle John wrote this book when he was exiled to Patmos in 95 AD i.e. 25 years after the Jewish temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. Which temple did he see again in the future? and in which city? |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by musicwriter(m): 4:50pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel: Indeed, I just told you that's the way the indoctrination goes and the writer of the book of Revelation wasn't immune to that. If the temple is destroyed yet again, new generation of christians would still be expecting a messiah when it's destroyed in the future. That's the indoctrination programming!! If the temple is destroyed for the third time or even one million times, they'll still be no messiah because, again, any promise of a messiah is mythology. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 4:52pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
musicwriter: Ok, we've heard you |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by skybeauty(f): 4:54pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel: I thought the same until I realized interpreting it any other way won’t make any sense. The book of Revelation is the most mystical of the entire New Testament. After the coming of Christ, St Paul calls Christians the New Isreal. Jesus called the current day Israelites who refused to believe in the Gospel the synagogue of Satan. The Gentiles are symbol of all unbelievers/ pagans and all those who have Apostasized from the true faith because of the temptation of the Anti Christ. It represents all those who fell for Rothschilds two god philosophy, which is the foundation of freemasonry. The Temple in Revelation 11 is the Catholic Church. Obviously the Catholic Church has Temples all over the world but the Temple that represents the Church in a significant way is the St Peters Basilica. By the Lateran Treaty of 1929 the Heads of the Vatican City State were called the Priest Kings or sacerdotal monarchs. This was after when a Jew called Victor Emmanuel II fought battle with the Pope in the year 1870 to take the Papal States (Rome and Italy) from the Catholics Church. After the war, there was a treaty signed between the Jews who were in control of Rome and the Pope, it was called the Lateran Treaty of 1929. It gave the Vatican City State its sovereignty after having suffered defeat from the war. The Temple and city where we have Priest Kings represent the Temple in Apocalypse 11. This is the Temple and the Holy City that will be profaned in the end of days which is already happening. The Vatican is in the firm control of the High Jewish Masonic agents from the B’Nai B’rith and the Illuminati of Bavaria. Find out about Paul Vi down to Pope Francis and you will understand me. You will also understand how the city is being profaned. Jesus told St John that the Revelation in the Apocalypse deals with world events. See Chapter 1 and 2 of Revelation. I believe Revelation 11 is not talking about the Jews because Jesus Christ has abolished the old covenant and its Temples a long time ago and instituted a new covenant and sacrifice. Which is the sacrifice of His body and blood, the Holy Mass offered in every Catholics Church especially in St Peters Basilica which Governs the Catholic Church all over the world. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 5:08pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:good, 1wk is equal to 7yrs, 70wks simply means 70X7 dat is 490yrs ok, inside d 70wks(490yrs) we have 7wks dat is 7X7(49yrs) and 62weeks(62X7=434yrs) and anoda 1wk(7yrs) which christ will use to confirm his covenant, 49+434+7=490yrs(70wks) have u seen d reason why i said dat d 1week(7yrs) dat christ will use to confirm his covenant is within d 70wks(490yrs) study dis one because and give me feed back because more maths is coming, i have evidence to clear your doubt today |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 5:12pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: For goodness sake, you mentioned earlier that Daniel 9 v 27 has nothing to do with the anointed one, and that this verse has to do with the ruler of the people. Daniel 9 v 27 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven. In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. @greatness77, is Jesus the person that will confirm the covenant with many, then at the middle of the seven...put an end to the sacrifice and offering and also set up the abomination that causes desolation in the temple? Second question, let's go to the very beginning. Which year does your 70x7 start from? |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by Simple99: 5:40pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
The fulfilment of that Bible prophesy started since 1914 the first world war and still fulfilling till date. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 5:40pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
BrashMan: We are still waiting for answer ooo |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by silverlinen(m): 6:01pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:Oga you just dey shout "abomination of desolation" "holy place off evil". Na the only proof you get be that? Nigga no mind me oo...I just dey ask brr. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by od4life(m): 7:02pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:You are very sound in bible eschatology. I enjoyed your posts. Bravo�. 1 Like |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 7:03pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
od4life: Thanks bro. All glory be to God 1 Like |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by SeriouslySense(m): 7:06pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
I was raised up as a catholic, and i dont subscribe to such believes, just read the bible and try to understand it, you don't need to add cultures or mans doctrines to it. The church did not replace Israel, rather, its her offspring, and God will turn his attention back to the Jews, after he has dwelt with the gentiles, Israel being a Nation again, is a great sign, that God is about to turn his focus fully back to Israel, the physical location is also Spiritual, you cannot really separate the physical and Spiritual. I am a catholic so i know how they program your thinking, and i understand why its hard for you, i just hope you can understand, that the Apocalypse centers around Israel and its redemption, because after the tribulation, when its seems there is no more hope, when they call out to the one who they crucified, he will hear and came back to the earth physically to be their eternal King, hence the promise of God to Abraham, is fulfilled, because its literal also, and his descendants uncountable, due to the Church also. skybeauty: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 7:17pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
od4life:u enjoyed what? Nawa oo! Cant u see cornel is busy contradicting himself? He said dat d 1week(7yrs) period have not started, haha he is stil waiting for the person dat will confirm his covenant within d 1week(7yrs) Cornel is very confused |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by Ifakiland(m): 7:24pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
jesusjnr2020:Una no just get sense....ww1 came, I'm sure an idiot also tot it was sign of entire, ww2 came, anoda mumu must have said its sign of end time, usa vs Iraq fools said its sign of end time....I don tire for una matter....una fear this endtime pass people wey no be Christians sef....are you sure tall normal at all 1 Like |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by MoIbrahim: 7:24pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
Oyinbo people are enjoying their policy you're here talking about prophesy. You think they have that time? |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 7:26pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:dont misquote me, i said jesus is d one dat wil confm covnt while d ruler wil dstroy d city and d sanctuary+ d abomntion |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 7:28pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: Read Daniel 9 v 27; Daniel 9 v 27 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven. In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. Are you telling everyone here that the "HE" in verse 27 refers to two different people? or one person. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 7:30pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: We are still awaiting your response o; Daniel 9 v 27 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven. In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. "AND" at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. 1. Who is the "HE" in Daniel 9 v 27? Please take note of the "AND" in the verse before you answer. 2. What year does Daniel's 70 x 7 start from? |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 7:36pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
SeriouslySense: Thank you ooo. God still has unfinished business with the nation of Israel. I'll still make some references to the prophecies in Ezekiel, Daniel & Isaiah to buttress this. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by jossytech(m): 8:39pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by aalangel(f): 8:51pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
It's partially in the scheme of things, but it's a huge distraction. The gospel is better reached in time of peace. Pray for peace in Ukraine. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 8:51pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:good qstion i mean no2 because i have answered no1 severally, it started at d end of 69wks which began in 455BCE and ended in 29CE, And d anointed one(messiah) arrived(baptized) in 29ce, stop behaving like jews dat said they are still expecting d messiah |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 8:53pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: You haven't answered question 1 clearly; Daniel 9 v 27 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven. In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. "AND" at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. 1. Who is the "HE" in Daniel 9 v 27? Please take note of the "AND" in the verse before you answer. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 9:06pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: Are you telling us that the year Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild Jerusalem was 455 BCE? And the 70 x 7 weeks started that year? Hmmm? Well just to let you know, Cyrus decree to rebuild Jerusalem was in 538 BCE. King Cyrus lived between 600 to 530 BCE and reigned between 547 to 530 BCE. How does that connect with 455 BCE? https://iranicaonline.org/articles/cyrus-iiI You don't even have your historical evidence aligned. Per the bolded part of your response, do you even understand what you are saying? The Jews rejected Jesus as their Messiah...why are you confusing that for my position on the second coming of Christ?
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Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by skybeauty(f): 9:15pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
SeriouslySense: If what you are saying is the truth, then you have no business being Christian. Because according to your understanding of the scripture Judaism is the true Religion spoken of by Christ in the Bible. Of course, this view is incorrect because Christ made away with the old covenant and installed the new in its place. Only the Catholic Church represents the New and Everlasting Covenant effected in the blood of Jesus by which you even have a hope of salvation. St Paul said “though the children of Israel be like the sands of the earth, only a remnant shall be saved” why? Because they rejected Jesus who is supposed to be their salvation. You speak of being brainwashed as a Catholic? I believe we are all matured and can now think for ourselves unlike those days our parents dragged us to morning mass and block rosary. Now can you look at my write ups a second time and tell me sincerely whether all I have said bears any trappings of one who is mind controlled or deceived. I have independently investigated the Catholic Faith, I mean what the Church truly teaches and believes and not the scandals of today and I have discovered that it is indeed the true Church Jesus founded on earth to continue His salvific work. Although it is currently facing serious challenges from scandalous priests. As you go down to history, all these other churches disappears until you get to a point in history where we have only one Church, the. Catholic Church. We find the predecessors of the Popes having direct link with the Apostles of Christ. You find that whatever they wrote was as they were taught by the Apostles. No other church can boast of that link with the Apostles. That is why the Catholic Church is called Apostolic. St Ignatius of Antioch received his teachings on the Holy Eucharist directly from St John the Apostle who wrote the Revelation. He maintained that St Johns Gospel Chapter 6 is literal. St Clement of Rome was a disciple of St Paul and he later became the 5th Pope of the Catholic Church. He was also mentioned in one of Paul’s letters. The Bible most of you are relying on came from the Catholic Church. In the Council of Hippo the Church compiled the various books of the old and New Testament and named the collection “Holy Bible”. The Catholic Church arranged the Bible into Chapters and verses of which most Churches blindly quote out of context in a bid to attack the Catholic Faith. The Church preserved civilization during the dark ages and made sure future generation doesn’t remain in the Stone Age. I will give you an example to prove to you that Revelation 11 is talking about the Catholic Church. You will find two witnesses spoken about dressed in “sack cloth” who will be preaching during the end of days. They are illustrious Catholic monks of the species of St Patrick that evangelized Europe. Monks like St Patrick of Ireland, St Vincent Ferrer will arise in the last days to combat the errors of the anti christ. The Benedictine monks dress in “sack cloth”. How many pastors or reverend do you find today homeless, spending their whole lives in secluded places and dressed in sack clothes? We only have deceivers in suit duping unsuspecting members of the public in the name of miracles. Catholic monks takes vow of Virginity and poverty which is called the evangelical counsel. We have the Hermits who spend all their days in the bush praying for the world. They also dress in sack cloths. You also find that the 144000 first fruits of salvation were described as virgins who never had any sexual relation with women. This refers to all those priests and monks who were faithful to their vow of virginity, chastity and poverty and died in that state. They are the first fruits of Our Lord’s salvation. There are many more examples indicating that the Catholic Church is the true Christian Church on earth. I am not brainwashed, these are my independent convictions. |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by OkCornel(m): 9:20pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
greatness77: And while I'm still expecting your response to my two previous mentions. Even your math does not add up. If according to you the 69 weeks x 7 days (i.e. 483 years) started in 455 BCE, did Daniel not mention the anointed one will be cut off at the end of the 483 years which lands us in 29 AD. Abeg what year was Jesus cut off (crucified)? 29 AD? or 33 AD? |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by SeriouslySense(m): 9:24pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
since you are convicted, there is nothing, i may say that can convince, so its okay. But, if you notice, the catholic Church, seems to worship Mary, its a form of goddess worship, its not the Mary in the bible that is represented, its a roman goddess. Okay, your convictions mean there is nothing i can say for you, just be the best you can be. And put your hope and trust in only Jesus, dont add or subtract, once you accept the works of Jesus on the cross, and you confess he is the Son of God and accept him, pray for the spirit, then the Spirit seals you once you truly recognize this and accept the work on the cross, that is the Gospel. Having a repentant heart and accepting Jesus into your heart. I also recommend doing baptism properly, be emerged in water and baptized, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, my baptism in the catholic Church, did not involve complete immersion in the water, but the trinity were called upon. skybeauty: |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by MrNipplesLover(m): 9:30pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
Thank you, Father. ❤❤❤❤ |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 9:34pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:CHRIST IS the one dat will confirm d covenant as he clearly stated in matt 22 vs 20, d first covnt was during abraham(LAW) when animals are used as sacrifice And d second covnt was during Christ(GRACE) When he used himself as sacrifice since den d believers stoped usin animals for atonment of sin, i once ague like u until i repented |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:36pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:God will forever be with His people ISRAEL but there's something we need to know: it's those honoring Him that He will always honor! The natural Israelites dishonored God several times so He told them that He can raise children from stones for Abraham {Matthew 3:9} so that His promises to Abraham will not go unfulfilled {Genesis 12:1-3} therefore all Israelites that failed to accept Jesus Christ are now like trees cut down and thrown into the fire {Matthew 3:10} that's why Apostle Paul told us that God is no longer interested in natural Israelites so all those that chose to put faith in the God of Abraham through Jesus of Nazareth has become God's children {John 1:11-12} which means it's no longer a matter of Israel but faithful people throughout the earth are Israelites from God's standpoint! Romans 2:25-29 As for the nation of Israel Jesus (God's only begotten Son) said God has condemned that nation {Matthew 23:37-38} and has chosen a nation producing the fruitage of faith {Matthew 21:43} the chosen nation became known in the first century at Pentecost when God's promises for Israel was fulfilled only among Jesus' disciples, they will continue to grow as a nation until their citizens are found in all the nations of the earth that's why God permitted them to speak all the language on the earth showing that it's no longer about NATURAL ISRAELITES as usual but faithful people throughout the earth are now welcomed as SPIRITUAL ISRAELITES! 2 Likes |
Re: Could Russia's Invasion Of Ukraine Be A Fulfilment Of Biblical Prophecy? by greatness77: 9:42pm On Mar 06, 2022 |
OkCornel:29ce was when he was baptized and bcom messiah |
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