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My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 3:15pm On Mar 07, 2022
I will really want to ask fans of APC or Muhammad Buhari this few questions.

What has really changed between the PDP Nigeria and the APC?

Cause to me nothing has changed.
There is still,

Epileptic Power supply
Poverty
ASUU strike
Fuel scarcity
Poor education
Poor health care(our president can testify)
Insecurity.... at least doing PDP apart from the Northeast, you could still travel to others parts of Nigeria safely.
But under Buhari, even to move two streets away from your house is by God's Grace.

Unemployment... Do I really need to talk about it?
Economy: our economy is in a comatose state ..Na push and start the APC dey do m this days

Infrastructures: they take style try for this one Sha.
Agriculture: absolutely none existent in this administration.


In summary, APC is like a man who painted(infrastructure) one side of its badly constructed house while the rest part continue to fall off or scatter while it keep accusing the previous occumpant instead of fixing the problem.


May God never curse us with leaders like Buhari, Ngige, Adamu Adamu.... Affliction shall not arise a second time . Amen

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 3:17pm On Mar 07, 2022
NGpatriot
Michelle
Helinues
Omenkalive
Benueboy
Etc
Come and defend your failed party
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 3:25pm On Mar 07, 2022
I have just one question for you.

Do you think it would have been wise of us to have continued with President Jonathan?
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by JAMO84: 3:39pm On Mar 07, 2022
That infrastructure you give us credit for is going to be the solution to 80 percent of the problems you listed, especially the ongoing refineries and Siemens power projects.



HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by Freestainworld(m): 3:41pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:
I have just one question for you.

Do you think it would have been wise of us to have continued with President Jonathan?
in jonathan era, Nigerians where more secured, we had more food on our table, economy was far better than what we have now, corruption index was lower, we witnessed true democracy to a good extent, I lie?

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 3:44pm On Mar 07, 2022
JAMO84:

HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES

Unfortunately, it isn't, yet. But it certainly will be in the future when governments earn a lot more and manage to hold Nigeria a lot less, as we shall soon see with record fuel subsidies eating up record high crude oil prices.
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 3:47pm On Mar 07, 2022
Freestainworld:
in jonathan era, Nigerians where more secured, we had more food on our table, economy was far better than what we have now, corruption index was lower, we witnessed true democracy to a good extent, I lie?

All funded by the crumbs from the tables of looters, which any reasonable thinking Nigerian knows was not sustainable.

I tell you, it pains me that Jonathan never had a second term. It would have educated Nigerians of the folly of not saving during the seven years of plenty!

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by helinues: 3:51pm On Mar 07, 2022
That some of you have refused to move from where you were in 2015 shouldn't be our headache.

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 3:59pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:

May God never curse us with leaders like Buhari, Ngige, Adamu Adamu.... Affliction shall not arise a second time . Amen

It is interestingly informative that the op has not included Tinubu on his list of those God should not curse him with.

Is that perhaps because the op would not mind being inflicted with a bullion van APC Jaguda, I wonder. After all, to steal a whole bullion van he must blind some with small Naira, but the thought of him having access to Central Bank should make some open their eyes and shudder, you'd think.
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 4:07pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


It is interestingly informative that the op has not included Tinubu on his list of those God should not curse him with.

Is that perhaps because the op would not mind being inflicted with a bullion van APC Jaguda, I wonder. After all, to steal a whole bullion van he must blind some with small Naira, but the thought of him having access to Central Bank should make some open their eyes and shudder, you'd think.
I'm not interested in timing caus he is no in any office but those ones above are and they have shown themselves to be failures.

May we never be unfortunate with a president like Buhari who rather than sit in his country and solve ASUU issues is gallivanting the world over. Godforbid
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 4:12pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:

May we never be unfortunate with a president like Buhari who rather than sit in his country and solve ASUU issues is gallivanting the world over. Godforbid

Ah. An ASUU issue suffer. I feel for you, but to be honest, I have no sympathy for ASUU. They are the one's miseducating Nigerians to elect bad leaders, and if they educated you properly Nigeria would be better by now.

That said, I'm fully aware that many of them do educate you but many of you do not learn.
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by Solsix(m): 4:47pm On Mar 07, 2022
JAMO84:
That infrastructure you give us credit for is going to be the solution to 80 percent of the problems you listed, especially the ongoing refineries and Siemens power projects.



HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES
U forgot to add the loans he took. Both nationally and internationally
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by Oghighirhighi: 6:26pm On Mar 07, 2022
I am happy that Buhari came to fast-forward the dismembering of the lie called Nigeria. Glory be to God.
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:27pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


Ah. An ASUU issue suffer. I feel for you, but to be honest, I have no sympathy for ASUU. They are the one's miseducating Nigerians to elect bad leaders, and if they educated you properly Nigeria would be better by now.

That said, I'm fully aware that many of them do educate you but many of you do not learn.
lol says you. That's not the reality
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:32pm On Mar 07, 2022
helinues:
That some of you have refused to move from where you were in 2015 shouldn't be our headache.
that you're one of the foolish ones that dropped us in this quadmire should bestudied.

Yu keep supporting failure cause you're gaining mtcheeeew

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:34pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


All funded by the crumbs from the tables of looters, which any reasonable thinking Nigerian knows was not sustainable.

I tell you, it pains me that Jonathan never had a second term. It would have educated Nigerians of the folly of not saving during the seven years of plenty!
but yet in the administration of the saints whre crumbs are not falling and no corruption...we are suffering and are poorer. Infact statistic says Corruption have increased under buhari

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by raumdeuter: 8:35pm On Mar 07, 2022
Freestainworld:
in jonathan era, Nigerians where more secured, we had more food on our table, economy was far better than what we have now, corruption index was lower, we witnessed true democracy to a good extent, I lie?

No it wasnt. That was the time Boko Haram was at its peak and was even attacking Abuja regularly. That was the time people were searched before entering churches and even stopped Night vigil because of Boko Haram, That was when UN building was attacked right?
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:36pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


Unfortunately, it isn't, yet. But it certainly will be in the future when governments earn a lot more and manage to hold Nigeria a lot less, as we shall soon see with record fuel subsidies eating up record high crude oil prices.


You were part of them that protester against Jonathan for trying to end it..today youre quiet. Hypocrite

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by raumdeuter: 8:37pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:
I will really want to ask fans of APC or Muhammad Buhari this few questions.

What has really changed between the PDP Nigeria and the APC?

Cause to me nothing has changed.
There is still,

Epileptic Power supply
Poverty
ASUU strike
Fuel scarcity
Poor education
Poor health care(our president can testify)
Insecurity.... at least doing PDP apart from the Northeast, you could still travel to others parts of Nigeria safely.
But under Buhari, even to move two streets away from your house is by God's Grace.

Unemployment... Do I really need to talk about it?
Economy: our economy is in a comatose state ..Na push and start the APC dey do m this days

Infrastructures: they take style try for this one Sha.
Agriculture: absolutely none existent in this administration.


In summary, APC is like a man who painted(infrastructure) one side of its badly constructed house while the rest part continue to fall off or scatter while it keep accusing the previous occumpant instead of fixing the problem.


May God never curse us with leaders like Buhari, Ngige, Adamu Adamu.... Affliction shall not arise a second time . Amen

Probably if the previous owner of the building had done one side also, By now we will have 2 sides

Assuming PDP decided to tackle power with the 16billion OBJ and PDP stole or the money they shared with Dasuki and friends, Power would have been resolved, Buhari will add infrastructure and we will be closer to having 4 good sides

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:37pm On Mar 07, 2022
JAMO84:
That infrastructure you give us credit for is going to be the solution to 80 percent of the problems you listed, especially the ongoing refineries and Siemens power projects.



HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES
it been 7 years and it hasn't changed a thing. Is it til your president leave office before it starts changing?
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:40pm On Mar 07, 2022
JAMO84:
That infrastructure you give us credit for is going to be the solution to 80 percent of the problems you listed, especially the ongoing refineries and Siemens power projects.



HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES
it been 7 years and it hasn't changed a thing. Is it til your president leave office before it starts changing?



Do you think it only power?
ASUU is on strike under Buhari
You have insecurity
You have poor health care
The economy is worst.
Etc.....
How can Nigeria grow when security is poor? Who will invest in a folatile area

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:41pm On Mar 07, 2022
JAMO84:
That infrastructure you give us credit for is going to be the solution to 80 percent of the problems you listed, especially the ongoing refineries and Siemens power projects.



HOW BUHARI WAS ABLE TO HOLD NIGERIA WITH THIS MASSIVE REVENUE SLUMP SHOULD BE STUDIED IN UNIVERSITIES
it been 7 years and it hasn't changed a thing. Is it til your president leave office before it starts changing?



Do you think it only power?
ASUU is on strike under Buhari
You have insecurity
You have poor health care
The economy is worst.
Etc.....
How can Nigeria grow when security is poor? Who will invest in a folatile area

If I was President ASUU will never go on strike.

#BuhariisAFailure....

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 8:49pm On Mar 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


Probably if the previous owner of the building had done one side also, By now we will have 2 sides

Assuming PDP decided to tackle power with the 16billion OBJ and PDP stole or the money they shared with Dasuki and friends, Power would have been resolved, Buhari will add infrastructure and we will be closer to having 4 good sides
and that's why we have failed to move forward because you keep blaming the past instead of focusing on the future.
Have you seen German, US, France, Canada leaders blaming their predecessors for what ever reason?.

Una no dey shame?.

By the way the previous Occumpant did well..he painted one side (Agriculture). We all know they did well in that aspect.
Reason the ex minister is current president of AfDB

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by raumdeuter: 9:10pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:
and that's why we have failed to move forward because you keep blaming the past instead of focusing on the future.
Have you seen German, US, France, Canada leaders blaming their predecessors for what ever reason?.

Una no dey shame?.

By the way the previous Occumpant did well..he painted one side (Agriculture). We all know they did well in that aspect.
Reason the ex minister is current president of AfDB

All those countries have their predecessors do something which the current admin continued working on. PDP ruled for 16yrs what exactly can they point to? No Infrastructure, no power, no security Nothing except looting
Govt is a continuum, If you yourself admit that this current administration did Infrastructure in 8yrs, then what can you credit the previous admin for in 16yrs?

What aspect of Agriculture did they take care of? were we not importing food under them? The evidence of Agriculture is to feed the country not to be president of a Bank. Its like saying Nigerians are rich because Okonjo is president of World Bank

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 9:14pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:
You were part of them that protester against Jonathan for trying to end it..today youre quiet. Hypocrite

Part of those protesting against removal of fuel subsidy? Seriously?

I guess it's okay for you to make up crap in your head and believe it, lol, but if you got non-subsidy money, I'm selling electric tomatoes.

budaatum:


Electrical Tomatoes

The emboldened is about the only bit of this that got my attention but I notice it caught no one else's.

"Price controls"! It means a product is kept at a price set by government, and in Nigeria, we know it's kept low and very likely beneath the cost at which it can be sold at a profit. Like petrol really. But we can at least claim a reason for petrol with our crude oil and our ineptitude at running refineries. Electric though!?

Imagine it were tomatoes. You invest in land and fertiliser and labour and grow them, and when you get them to the market, government sets the price. I'm absolutely certain if that price is higher than the cost at which you grow your tomatoes, you wouldn't mind much. You'd likely be delighted if it's high enough for you to make a tidy profit. And if you're fortunate and the price set is so high, you'd likely invest in more land and more fertilizer and more labour and grow even more tomatoes. But this is Naija, where the price set by government is more likely to be way below your costs so that after you sell your tomatoes, you would have lost money.

Now think, you lost money on your tomatoes. Are you going to plant tomatoes next season? If you're into the charity business or you're stupid, you just might. But if you're not and have rent and school fees for your kids to pay and you want to eat and pay the interest on a loan I very much doubt you'd be stupid enough to throw your money away growing unprofitable tomatoes!

Well, that's the case with electricity in Nigeria I'm afraid. You generate it, transport it along unreliable transmission wires, lose a large chunk of it to illegal use and theft and what you do get paid for does not cover the cost of producing it. Now tell, would you plant electricity next season? I very much doubt it unless you're into the charity business or you're stupid, of course, but somehow, I just can't imagine you'd be either.

So, what's the solution you might wonder. Increase the price of electricity of course. But come on people, increase the price of electricity so electricity planters can earn more money and plant more and sell more? Surely you must be cursing me by now, or haven't you noticed you'd have to pay more for my electric if you want it?

Ok, perhaps you're all nice civilised folks and don't want to curse me so let's try a different way of looking at this. Imagine Buhari removes the price control so I can sell my electricity at a market determined price like I currently sell my tomatoes no doubt at a profit high enough for me to want to plant more next year. Are you cursing me yet? I'm sure you would be if it was the subsidy on petrol I were talking about removing. Hell no! You'd likely stone me if you could get your hands on me!

Well, that's what this piece is saying where it says "The private sector is given little incentive to invest.” After all, I'm in the electric planting business for the money and the profit and not because I love you all as Adam Smith would say, so why give you light if you aren't paying me for the priviledge! And you wanna complain you're in darkness?!

When you pay me enough to cover my planting of tomatoes after paying for the land and the fertilizer and the labour and the interest on a loan and cover what I lose to theft and illegal harvesting, and still make a tidy profit to reinvest, I will plant 12000megawatts of tomatoes and I will sell 12000megawatts of tomatoes and even more megawatts of tomatoes than you can eat even because you would be incentivizing me to invest what you pay me in more land and more fertiliser and more labour to plant more tomatoes so I will have more tomatoes to sell you and make more money. But if you want cheap electric, keep your price controls and don't incentivize me but don't expect me to waste my time labouring in the sun just so you can have light because, like you, I ain't that stupid nor into the charity business!

Anyone cursing me yet, because I am telling you, we are too cheap!
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 9:19pm On Mar 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


All those countries have their predecessors do something which the current admin continued working on. PDP ruled for 16yrs what exactly can they point to? No Infrastructure, no power, no security Nothing except looting
Govt is a continuum, If you yourself admit that this current administration did Infrastructure in 8yrs, then what can you credit the previous admin for in 16yrs?

What aspect of Agriculture did they take care of? were we not importing food under them? The evidence of Agriculture is to feed the country not to be president of a Bank. Its like saying Nigerians are rich because Okonjo is president of World Bank
are you kidding me? Nigeria enjoyed it's highest agriculture gains since 1980s.

We did well in agriculture. We were producing much. Young Nigerians were getting into agriculture.

You don't expect us to all of a sudden stop importing foods but at least their weldone job there reduced it. Food prices became Lower unlike APC.

Rice a mudu was 300.now under APC is 1000
Garri was about 200 one mudu today it 450
Beans was 250 today it more than 700.
Spaghetti was 150 today its 400 naira.

Do.you need more?

Just please tell.your failed President to solve ASUU issues. I'll have done better as President than Buhari will ever. He is simply a failure

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 9:20pm On Mar 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


All those countries have their predecessors do something which the current admin continued working on. PDP ruled for 16yrs what exactly can they point to? No Infrastructure, no power, no security Nothing except looting
Govt is a continuum, If you yourself admit that this current administration did Infrastructure in 8yrs, then what can you credit the previous admin for in 16yrs?

What aspect of Agriculture did they take care of? were we not importing food under them? The evidence of Agriculture is to feed the country not to be president of a Bank. Its like saying Nigerians are rich because Okonjo is president of World Bank

I think he wants us to ignore all the above, Raud. Nigeria does after all not teach the importance of history.
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by raumdeuter: 9:21pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:
are you kidding me? Nigeria enjoyed it's highest agriculture gains since 1980s.

We did well in agriculture. We were producing much. Young Nigerians were getting into agriculture.

You don't expect us to all of a sudden stop importing foods but at least their weldone job there reduced it. Food prices became Lower unlike APC.

Rice a mudu was 300.now under APC is 1000
Garri was about 200 one mudu today it 450
Beans was 250 today it more than 700.
Spaghetti was 150 today its 400 naira.

Do.you need more?

Just please tell.your failed President to solve ASUU issues. I'll have done better as President than Buhari will ever. He is simply a failure

PDP had 16yrs and didnt solve ASUU but you expect APC to solve it in 8yrs? I went to University when PDP was in govt and it was always one strike after another

Rice before PDP was 50 for one mudu went to 300 under PDP
Garry was 20 one mudu before PDP went to 200 under PDP
Beans was 25 before PDP went to 250 under PDP

Do you need more?

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by budaatum: 9:28pm On Mar 07, 2022
ifiokjohn:
are you kidding me? Nigeria enjoyed it's highest agriculture gains since 1980s.

We did well in agriculture. We were producing much. Young Nigerians were getting into agriculture.

Dude, please! If Nigerians were well into agriculture as you claim, would they not now be reaping the profit of selling "Rice a mudu now under APC is 1000, Garri one mudu today it 450 Beans more than 700 Spaghetti today its 400 naira"?

Instead, non-productive you is moaning that bubu who called you(ths) a lazy fuq is not feeding you!

Below is my description of you!

budaatum:

I was home during GEJ's time running my farm. If I asked them to come work for me at higher than the going rate, they refuse because if they went to stand outside the local government chairman's house he will give them 10 times what I will pay them. Hard working people were earning in a month what lazy fuqs were receiving in a day just for yelling rankadede! But where were these politicians getting the money from, nobody asked! From $150 a barrel of crude oil, of course. Money was so plenty that instead of hiring Joseph to advise them to save during the 7 years of plenty, my people were saying "a ti owo ẹni, a ti owo ẹni ẹlẹni, ki Ọlọrun ma fi kan wọn wọn” - their own money or another person's money, God give them either, with no care where it came from. Now, 7 years of scarcity has started, and you expect me to have sympathy?

Of course purchasing power has gone down, and all those things are happening! But how else would people who lived on rankadede survive when a barrel of crude oil is a third what it was and the person paying them the money has been arrested by EFCC? Do you seriously think we can be putting so much money in ghanamustgo and soakaways and not rue the rewards of our fraud, corruption and incompetence?

No, religion is not necessary. Proper understanding is, and of whatever our ideology is, and of our situation moreso. Unfortunately, we are not Mao's China nor Mahathir's Malaysia, and we are not going to be anytime soon until we understand how we ourselves are the devils who create the hell that we currently live in and decide to make it a heaven full of angels instead, with, as you say, "a new national consciousness". And yes, it begins by questioning so that we may gain understanding and demand better rule instead of selling our vote for ₦3500.

By the way, its for less that ₦1000 in my home town these days! Money don scarce!
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by raumdeuter: 9:41pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


I think he wants us to ignore all the above, Raud. Nigeria does after all not teach the importance of history.

He probably has forgotten and we need to remind him. Thats how another party will come to power and APC will be telling him that Nigeria was paradise under them

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Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 9:54pm On Mar 07, 2022
budaatum:


Dude, please! If Nigerians were well into agriculture as you claim, would they not now be reaping the profit of selling "Rice a mudu now under APC is 1000, Garri one mudu today it 450 Beans more than 700 Spaghetti today its 400 naira"?

Instead, non-productive you is moaning that bubu who called you(ths) a lazy fuq is not feeding you!

Below is my description of you!



And Buhari came with his badluck. His badluck and poor economy decisions spoilt everything including including poor security. That's why things are on the rise. Not that Jonathan didn't do well
Re: My Question For APC Supporters. by ifiokjohn(m): 10:09pm On Mar 07, 2022
raumdeuter:


PDP had 16yrs and didnt solve ASUU but you expect APC to solve it in 8yrs? I went to University when PDP was in govt and it was always one strike after another

Rice before PDP was 50 for one mudu went to 300 under PDP
Garry was 20 one mudu before PDP went to 200 under PDP
Beans was 25 before PDP went to 250 under PDP

Do you need more?
So because PDP failed then it means APC should or must fail?


By the way why did we vote in APC? Isn't it to prevent what happened during PDP to happen again? Doing PDP there was Strike so doing APC another must take place?


Anyways ther is a reason I ask the question what's the difference between PDP Nigeria and Apc Nigeria .... apparently nothing

At least it took 16 to years to get to 300 naira under PDP and that's normal inflation taking place. But just 5 years APC own climbed faster than pdp in 16 years.
Pdp took 16 years to get to 300 naira from 50 naira. It tookbuhari 5 years to move it from 300 naira to 1000 naira. Tofiakwa

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