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Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Osilama1: 3:22pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
Tinubu is free to decamp if he feels Buhari has pocketed APC.

Wike has pocketed PDP and Umahi felt he needed to leave and he did!
well let's see how APC ll get ebonyi in 2023... Why didn't he use APC platform in his second tenure elections if e sure for am...
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by tesppidd: 3:37pm On Mar 09, 2022
Osilama1:
well let's see how APC ll get ebonyi in 2023... Why didn't he use APC platform in his second tenure elections if e sure for am...
APC don't need Ebonyi for governorship.

They need a substantial number of votes for the Presidency.

With David Umahi and his political structure working for the APC candidate; the results could go from something like

PDP 400,000 APC 60,000 in 2019 to

PDP 300,000 APC 160,000 in 2023.

That's a good addition.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Reinvented: 3:53pm On Mar 09, 2022
Any action by ex-governor of Ebonyi State is in vioation of the law. INEC should immediately rescind the earlier certificate of returbs and issue a fresh one to PDP's nominated governor.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Abujason: 4:05pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
One doesn't need a course in law to see that there is no constituional requirement for a governor to remain in one party.

Even a layman understands this.

Instead of NJC to caution this judge, they are busy attacking Umahi for "talking about the judge anyhow"

Judges - the most corrupt yet hollier than thou set of people in this country.

He ran and won as a candidate of a political party - not as an independent. The party that sponsored him has legitimate grounds to reclaim their mandate.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Indispensable85(m): 4:12pm On Mar 09, 2022
fergie001:


Cc: peacecore

Final!
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Frankiss44(m): 4:13pm On Mar 09, 2022
Peacecore:
The day wey Britain go catch dis guy 4 abuse of language go tough.

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Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Waterlrd: 4:21pm On Mar 09, 2022
Peacecore:
U should've asked urself why Dave appealed immediately while d house of assembly members are yet to do so. After analysing dia own case by senior lawyers, n their is no constitutional back up or technicality for dem 2 retain dia sits, den d they'll appeal d case late, n drag feet till dia tenures ends next year. Remember, it's not an election matter that have time frame.
You must have forgotten that , even the governor & his deputy @this moment need " stay of execution order" that must be approved by another court , so that, they (the governor)can still be in their office while appealing their case and if
the stay of execution order is not granted to them which is unlikely anyway, they will be appealing from their village as nonexecutive governor until the case is reversed before he can resume office again.

In the case of the house members, their chances are very slim because the governor's backing will not be there for them to enjoy. It's every man and his own kettle.

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Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by hrykanu231(m): 4:25pm On Mar 09, 2022
powerfulguy:

https://thenationonlineng.net/umahi-deputy-appeal-sack-ruling/

So after all the bragging, he still went on to appeal? He would have waited a little more, untill he sees a bailiff and security men enforcing judgement.

Either ways, I pray justice prevails(in his favour or that of the other party)
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Indispensable85(m): 4:49pm On Mar 09, 2022
Moferere:
I thought he said the judgement is of no effect

It doesn't stop him from appealing.
He just said his mind.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Indispensable85(m): 4:49pm On Mar 09, 2022
As expected
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Cantonese: 5:01pm On Mar 09, 2022
sandymikky:

But why do we have parties logos and not candidates' pictures in the ballot paper?

Exactly.

And do not forget that parties go to court over that to overturn elections.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by mushystuff: 5:10pm On Mar 09, 2022
Nonpartisan1:
Justice Inyang Ekwo is a PDP judge. All his rulings/ Judgements since 2015 has been against the APC and the federal government.

The earlier the NJC sacks or suspend him, the better for the judiciary.

I'm sure you never said this about Justice Abang notorious for turning justice on its head in favour of APC! Superior courts have since berated him and upturned some of his obnoxious rings. Has that happen against Justice Ekwo?
Some of you just open your mouths abi fingers waaa and produce nonsense just because you feel you can. Bring your petitions against him and successfully defend them let's see!
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by TYCO77: 5:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
Even a layman in the street is aware it is party name and symbol that is printed on the ballot paper. Invariably, one cast his or her vote for the party and not the representative. In declaration of election results, INEC announces that party A or B won or lost in XYZ polling unit, ward, L.G.A., constituency and state. Any elective political post or seat one holds or occupies is on behalf of the party that won the election.

Except an independent candidate as the case may be in the amended or is to be amended electoral act.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by tesppidd: 5:28pm On Mar 09, 2022
Abujason:


He ran and won as a candidate of a political party - not as an independent. The party that sponsored him has legitimate grounds to reclaim their mandate.
This one you are talking is either from your kitchen or from your beer parlour.

A country is governed by a document called a constitution..
Not from sentiments or individual logic.

Where in the constitution says that a governor or president will lose his seat if he defects??

Tell me.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Osilama1: 8:01pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
APC don't need Ebonyi for governorship.

They need a substantial number of votes for the Presidency.

With David Umahi and his political structure working for the APC candidate; the results could go from something like

PDP 400,000 APC 60,000 in 2019 to

PDP 300,000 APC 160,000 in 2023.

That's a good addition.

no make APC win with gorvenor 2023 umahi structure na... Even last elections APC had gud results presidential so I don't know what u are yapping about... Umahi isn't sensible enough to jump to APC... PDP should hot him well till his tenure finishes
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by tesppidd: 8:16pm On Mar 09, 2022
Osilama1:
no make APC win with gorvenor 2023 umahi structure na... Even last elections APC had gud results presidential so I don't know what u are yapping about... Umahi isn't sensible enough to jump to APC... PDP should hot him well till his tenure finishes
Even 1 more vote to the presidential election is a good addition.

APC controlling Ebonyi is a plus to them no matter how you want to twist it.

So relax and wipe your tears... grin

And btw Umahi stays till the very last day grin
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by kentrowiz(m): 8:30pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
This one you are talking is either from your kitchen or from your beer parlour.

A country is governed by a document called a constitution..
Not from sentiments or individual logic.

Where in the constitution says that a governor or president will lose his seat if he defects??

Tell me.

The constitution does not contain all laws governing the country and all the laws governing Nigeria are not only in the constitution.

Also, the court also gives judgements according to the arguments framed before them and not ouside if that. In this instance, PDP lawyers did not argue the legality of his defection but the fact that the votes cast in the election belongs to the party and not the individual, which is an argument that is legally correct.

Check the Supreme Court judgment on Kogi Apc when Yaya Bello was substituted as the governorship candidate. You know the gist that time now.

The judge's precedence here is the judgements of the Supreme court which the appeal court do not have discretion over even if they feel it's wrong. The case will get to the Supreme court and until the judges of the Supreme Court over rule themselve, is when we can all say that the judge is wrong. Until then, he has made a beautiful legal submission.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by kentrowiz(m): 8:32pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
This one you are talking is either from your kitchen or from your beer parlour.

A country is governed by a document called a constitution..
Not from sentiments or individual logic.

Where in the constitution says that a governor or president will lose his seat if he defects??

Tell me.

Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by Osilama1: 8:55pm On Mar 09, 2022
tesppidd:
Even 1 more vote to the presidential election is a good addition.

APC controlling Ebonyi is a plus to them no matter how you want to twist it.

So relax and wipe your tears... grin

And btw Umahi stays till the very last day grin
u must be sick that one choose not to support a Man who ditched a Party that made him is tears some of u are unfortunate in thinking...
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by JONNYSPUTE(m): 9:08pm On Mar 09, 2022
kentrowiz:


The constitution does not contain all laws governing the country and all the laws governing Nigeria are not only in the constitution.

Also, the court also gives judgements according to the arguments framed before them and not ouside if that. In this instance, PDP lawyers did not argue the legality of his defection but the fact that the votes cast in the election belongs to the party and not the individual, which is an argument that is legally correct.

Check the Supreme Court judgment on Kogi Apc when Yaya Bello was substituted as the governorship candidate. You know the gist that time now.

The judge's precedence here is the judgements of the Supreme court which the appeal court do not have discretion over even if they feel it's wrong. The case will get to the Supreme court and until the judges of the Supreme Court over rule themselve, is when we can all say that the judge is wrong. Until then, he has made a beautiful legal submission.

... Beer parlour analysis.
Consult the combine effect of section 188 and 189 and tell us where the judge manufactured his judgement from.
Note that the judge is morally right but constitutionally wrong.
We will see after the appeal.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by tesppidd: 9:50pm On Mar 09, 2022
Osilama1:
u [s]must be sick that one choose not to support a Man who ditched a Party that made him is tears some of u are unfortunate in thinking...[/s]
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by tesppidd: 9:50pm On Mar 09, 2022
JONNYSPUTE:
... Beer parlour analysis.
Consult the combine effect of section 188 and 189 and tell us where the judge manufactured his judgement from.
Note that the judge is morally right but constitutionally wrong.
We will see after the appeal.
Don't mind all these semi illiterates.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by kentrowiz(m): 12:23am On Mar 10, 2022
JONNYSPUTE:
... Beer parlour analysis.
Consult the combine effect of section 188 and 189 and tell us where the judge manufactured his judgement from.
Note that the judge is morally right but constitutionally wrong.
We will see after the appeal.

Read the Supreme Court decision on Faleke v INEC & anor, 2016. It's a unanimous decision of the seven man Supreme Court panel. That should guide you.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by garfield1: 12:55am On Mar 10, 2022
kentrowiz:


Read the Supreme Court decision on Faleke v INEC & anor, 2016. It's a unanimous decision of the seven man Supreme Court panel. That should guide you.

That decision does not apply.this is about defection, that one was about succession
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by JONNYSPUTE(m): 6:08am On Mar 10, 2022
kentrowiz:


Read the Supreme Court decision on Faleke v INEC & anor, 2016. It's a unanimous decision of the seven man Supreme Court panel. That should guide you.
... They are not same bro. Mind you that the Nigerian constitution is the highest law in the country and if any other law comes in variance with it,that law will be null and void and I stand now to tell you that there's nowhere in our Constitution where it says that a sitting president,his deputy, sitting govonor or his deputy can be sacked for defection. If there is,then they wouldn't be defections .
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by muykem: 9:15am On Mar 10, 2022
WATCHOVER:

Most of you fail because you emotionally read to pass but not to learn, immunity covers the governor only on Civil case aside that most especially in this decamping issue the judge made the right call, the only thing that people will say that will look sympathetic is the Judgment came late aside that the Judge was right
Your arguments devoid of logical reasoning and position of law. You can't prosecute sitting governor either civil or criminal case. He can only be made to respond to pre-election matter and issues arises from conduct of election. Wait and see appeal court and supreme Court decisions on this.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by kentrowiz(m): 10:35am On Mar 10, 2022
JONNYSPUTE:
... They are not same bro. Mind you that the Nigerian constitution is the highest law in the country and if any other law comes in variance with it,that law will be null and void and I stand now to tell you that there's nowhere in our Constitution where it says that a sitting president,his deputy, sitting govonor or his deputy can be sacked for defection. If there is,then they wouldn't be defections .

Our constitution is silent on the issue, it did not expressly prohibit or legalize it. That's why the court has the utmost discretion on the matter. That's why I referred you to Faleke's case. It would help if you read through it bro.
Re: Umahi, Deputy Appeal Sack Ruling by JONNYSPUTE(m): 10:44am On Mar 10, 2022
kentrowiz:


Our constitution is silent on the issue, it did not expressly prohibit or legalize it. That's why the court has the utmost discretion on the matter. That's why I referred you to Faleke's case. It would help if you read through it bro.
... Good. Since you know that our Constitution is silent on that,can you plz answer me just this questions.

Does judiciary make laws for a country?
Does a lawyer has any right to remove or add anything to the constitution in the guise of discharging his duties?
Remember that I said that the judge is morally right but constitutionally wrong.
Do you know the processes of constitution amendments? Lol.

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