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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by frowland(m): 10:50am On Mar 27, 2022
diplomat058:
Int'l Politics is very funny and interesting. The leverage the US is exercising as a blackmail for many of the so called allies "trapped" in this anti Russian coalition is that Russia violated Ukraine's sovereignty (Which is correct).

Now, the same US is threatening the decisional sovereignty of many countries who dared to not buy it's endorsed response (Sanctions) against Russia.

What a paradox! It leads u to believe the theory of realists that when morality is at variance with a country's interests (as is sometimes is), the question of action will be decided by power and power plays. This is Russia's illegitimate fate over Ukraine. This is America's fate that opposed Cuba being USSR's proxy but support Ukraine's being NATO'S expansion.

This is int'l politics. Only emotionally overwhelmed folks choose a side and think they are on the path of justice grin

Well said.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Oyiboman69: 10:55am On Mar 27, 2022
Johnrake69:
This is the stand Africa should take as Russia has always backed India throughout in History. And for those still asking what has Africa benefited
Russia supported decolonization efforts in Africa.

Namely;

Algeria: provided military, technical and material support to the National Liberation Front (NFN) to liberate Algeria from their French colonial masters during the Algeria Independence war and was the first country in the world to recognize the provisional Government of the Algerian Republic.

Angola: Russia helped stopped the Apartheid South African government from encroaching into Angola. They trained their forces in both Namibia and Tanzania.

Congo: Patrice Lumunba reached out to Russia for military assistance and they promptly responded by sending military advisors and munitions but the might of Belgian backed forces that had colonized Congo for decades was too much and Patrice Lumumba was later executed. One of the charismatic leaders Africa ever produced.

Egypt: Russia supported Gamal Abdul Nasser administration and gave scholarships to young Egyptians and among them was a future president Hosni Mubarak

Ethiopia: Helped Ethiopia regain its sovereignty after it was almost taken over by Somalia. The Somalia forces had completely taken over Ethiopia before Russia shipped in military hardwares and that was the end of the war

Guinea: Russia supported anticolonial struggle in Guinea. Gave aids to their newly formed independent government

South Africa: Russia was in the forefront of supporting the end to the apartheid regime. Funded the African National Congress.

In summary:
While the west colonized you and took away your resources, Russia supported decolonization and was applauded by Mandela.

The West never made any sacrifices for Africans
any sensible person will smell their antics of power tussle with the west from a far....
It is not lost on us that Africa is a hunting ground for European super powers who find comfort in our state of unrest.

Like China, Russia is just trying to reignite their influence on Africa and like I said,some of us can smell it from a distance cos they are no more difference from their western counterpart as they are also interested in gaining popularity as their journey to Africa is already late. However a troubled Africa is a welcoming environment for foreign invaders....

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 27, 2022
diplomat058:
Int'l Politics is very funny and interesting. The leverage the US is exercising as a blackmail for many of the so called allies "trapped" in this anti Russian coalition is that Russia violated Ukraine's sovereignty (Which is correct).

Now, the same US is threatening the decisional sovereignty of many countries who dared to not buy it's endorsed response (Sanctions) against Russia.

What a paradox! It leads u to believe the theory of realists that when morality is at variance with a country's interests (as is sometimes is), the question of action will be decided by power and power plays. This is Russia's illegitimate fate over Ukraine. This is America's fate that opposed Cuba being USSR's proxy but support Ukraine's being NATO'S expansion.

This is int'l politics. Only emotionally overwhelmed folks choose a side and think they are on the path of justice grin
sealed n stamped grin

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by oluwaseyi0: 11:01am On Mar 27, 2022
Meninmen:

The US should stop doing business with China because China is bullying India? Lol. Why should they do that? Because India is part of NATO or what?


So when it's comfortable for US they remember India is not a NATO nation but when it's not convenient they forget about that

If not for too much effontary what will make USA tell a non-NATO member to severe tiers with its trading partner

Remember this same non-NATO India country cancelled an already signed and to be delivered weapon deal with Russia

What right then do US has to complain about India patronizing them (USA) of arms when they are the same snake that pressured India to stop patronizing Russia for weapon

You ask me not to buy from other sellers yet you are still angry I'm buying from you? What exactly do US want? And the reason India MUST continue buying Russia gas is because US is incapable of supplying them alternative gas as can be done in case of weapon

Or will US prefer India starve her people and watch her economy implode all in the bid to please NATO countries who don't really care much about India since India is not a NATO

Oga I really pity any country that you ever become the president of

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by frowland(m): 11:04am On Mar 27, 2022
Oyiboman69:
what is the use of them being an ally?...besides, now that Russia is invading Ukraine, should the whole world just sit and watch?. People should at this moment give kudos to USA for standing up for the less powerful nation....

What an Irony! Who then stood for Iraq and Libya?
So we should also give Kudos to USA for blasting both less powerful and sovereign nations to smithereens??

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by ayindejimmy(m): 11:04am On Mar 27, 2022
Russia is not know or popular for anything other than selling weapons of war.

They profit wherever there is war and sell to both parties - the more the merrier
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Originalsly: 11:08am On Mar 27, 2022
mrmacdon:


It is an international politics, Indian will not want to be on Russia bad book since the are not good term with China, the also hv a long history with Russia wen Russia came to dia aid


India is non aligned. Is it really they are buying arms from Russia to protect itself from China?.... or the US? Which country has China invaded? ... or why would India fear an attack by China? ... even so ... it will not be looking for Russian support against China...... China and Russia are having closer military ties.... as in joint war games last year ... which has scared the West.
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by miketayo(m): 11:12am On Mar 27, 2022
oluwaseyi0:
US should go and invade Indian

Everyone must be their puppet by fire by force

Many European countries are freely patronizing Russian gas but India shouldn't simply because uk/USA say so, it's like they are mad

If you don't want them to buy from Russia sell to them at cheaper rate, simple

Even if that means US will buy at higher price, subsides and resell to India at lower prices no one cares




Are the US giving them the weapon for free? Or are they giving them 1 fighter jet for 2 ruppee?

India even cancelled weapons they've already ordered but yet to be delivered from Russia because of this war, they can afford to do that but expecting India to cancel gas which will invariably implode her economy and starve her citizens is asking for too much

It's like 2 of my neighbors fighting one which is a food seller then people are expecting me to starve my family by not buying food from the fighting neighbor even when there is no viable alternative

When China is bullying India why didn't US stop patronizing China and ask all of their allies to do same for sake of India?

China's fight with India is economical and doesn't require weapons. The weapons are for Pakistan, the same Russia sells weapons to Pakistan too
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by tegrianonigltd(m): 11:35am On Mar 27, 2022
MadamVanessa:
shocked


India is so insignificant with their abject poverty statusgrin


Average countries that is paralyzed with POVERTY are the ones supporting Russiagrin Afghanistan inclusivegrin

Poverty and your citizens go there for surgery, the chrome you are using is built by them, they have nuclear you don’t have, with their population, Nigeria is still poverty capital of the world. Lol, india is moving to the right direction, they are doing well. America dey Lubby them, because they have a strong base, America no Lubby other nations but india why America no Lubby Nigeria?

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by PericomaNwankwo: 11:41am On Mar 27, 2022
World politics
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by udemzyudex(m): 11:49am On Mar 27, 2022
hopefulLandlord:


If they were then there would probably be no reason for USA to make these statements. don't you think?

Think about what? It is just the money side, funding Russia by buying their crude with rubbles that's all.
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Nobody: 11:49am On Mar 27, 2022
oluwaseyi0:


So when it's comfortable for US they remember India is not a NATO nation but when it's not convenient they forget about that

If not for too much effontary what will make USA tell a non-NATO member to severe tiers with its trading partner

Remember this same non-NATO India country cancelled an already signed and to be delivered weapon deal with Russia

What right then do US has to complain about India patronizing them (USA) of arms when they are the same snake that pressured India to stop patronizing Russia for weapon

You ask me not to buy from other sellers yet you are still angry I'm buying from you? What exactly do US want? And the reason India MUST continue buying Russia gas is because US is incapable of supplying them alternative gas as can be done in case of weapon

Or will US prefer India starve her people and watch her economy implode all in the bid to please NATO countries who don't really care much about India since India is not a NATO

Oga I really pity any country that you ever become the president of


Lol. You were the one that said the US is an hypocrite for doing business with China from where China gets money to buy weapons to intimidate India. I then told you that if that is the case, then India should stop doing business with China since China is India's second largest business partner. Because if I should apply your logic, it means India is doing business with China from where China gets money to buy weapons to intimidate this same India. Makes sense to you right?

Now let me respond to this your latest outburst.

1. The US didn't tell India to severe ties with Russia. The US is saying India should obey the US sanctions by stopping import of Russia's gas (and Russia is not even a major supplier of gas to India). it's not the same thing as severing ties with Russia. Your next question will be why should the US tell another country which country to trade with? That's because they are the world super power. Deal with that!

2. The US told you that they are complaining that India is coming to them for weapons? Please, when did the US complain that India is now buying weapons from them? For your information, India patronises both The US and Russia for weapons.

When I see some of you analyse issues, I just laugh. Someone ( I don't know if it's you) said Russia will settle the tension between India and China. Lol. The same Russia that is benefiting from the tension? Russia sells military hardware (like the S-400 defense system) to both China and India. Nobody has ever called out Russia for it's hypocrisy for selling weapons to both countries when it can easily settle the rift between both countries since it has ties to both China and India. Let it be the US, their mouths will open waaaaaah!
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by edosignature(m): 11:58am On Mar 27, 2022
Indians are wise as the serpent. Dealing with Russia is in their own best interest.

Russia Arms, Oil, Energy, Air defense system, Technology etc are the cheapest when compare to their rival.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by baralatie(m): 12:11pm On Mar 27, 2022
mrmacdon:
It is an international politics, Indian will not want to be on Russia bad book since the are not good term with China, the also hv a long history with Russia wen Russia came to dia aid
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Johel(m): 12:13pm On Mar 27, 2022
MadamVanessa:
shocked


India is so insignificant with their abject poverty statusgrin


Average countries that is paralyzed with POVERTY are the ones supporting Russiagrin Afghanistan inclusivegrin


What about your shithole?


Una get light atall?, Una get good roads?,how your health centres?,your currency Nkor? Etc...dey talk down on India and your own country is poo.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by prettyboi1(m): 12:13pm On Mar 27, 2022
diplomat058:
Int'l Politics is very funny and interesting. The leverage the US is exercising as a blackmail for many of the so called allies "trapped" in this anti Russian coalition is that Russia violated Ukraine's sovereignty (Which is correct).

Now, the same US is threatening the decisional sovereignty of many countries who dared to not buy it's endorsed response (Sanctions) against Russia.

What a paradox! It leads u to believe the theory of realists that when morality is at variance with a country's interests (as is sometimes is), the question of action will be decided by power and power plays. This is Russia's illegitimate fate over Ukraine. This is America's fate that opposed Cuba being USSR's proxy but support Ukraine's being NATO'S expansion.

This is int'l politics. Only emotionally overwhelmed folks choose a side and think they are on the path of justice grin

Your objectivity is what I love most about this post of yours. Interest supercedes emotions in these things as emotions would only set you up to be annihilated. On the other hand, what annoys me is the fact that the US would go any length for its own interest but turn around to pretend not to understand that every other country too would go any length for their own interests.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Oyiboman69: 12:14pm On Mar 27, 2022
SarkinYarki:


Another naive CNN puppet
stop being unreasonable... counter argument with reasonable fact.
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Nobody: 12:17pm On Mar 27, 2022
Last last yankee cannot sanction the whole world
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by SultanYoung: 12:20pm On Mar 27, 2022
frowland:


So you guys now analyze heaven politics as well.
we didn't analyze that's what the two holy books said
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by chatinent: 12:22pm On Mar 27, 2022
The US sucks!
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by frowland(m): 12:37pm On Mar 27, 2022
SultanYoung:
we didn't analyze that's what the two holy books said
Of course, that's also what the news outlets said about the war, right?
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by olas24u(f): 12:38pm On Mar 27, 2022
Oyiboman69:
any sensible person will smell their antics of power tussle with the west from a far....
It is not lost on us that Africa is a hunting ground for European super powers who find comfort in our state of unrest.

Like China, Russia is just trying to reignite their influence on Africa and like I said,some of us can smell it from a distance cos they are no more difference from their western counterpart as they are also interested in gaining popularity as their journey to Africa is already late. However a troubled Africa is a welcoming environment for foreign invaders....
But its better to deal with people that see you as partners and want you to win and they also win,not a loop sided one ,that they win and we always loose.The chinese built railways,airports runways factories ,and we can see it ,touch it,in exchange for raw materials,some people take and do only powerpoint presentations.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by SEO2002: 12:45pm On Mar 27, 2022
oluwaseyi0:
US should go and invade Indian

Everyone must be their puppet by fire by force

Many European countries are freely patronizing Russian gas but India shouldn't simply because uk/USA say so, it's like they are mad

If you don't want them to buy from Russia sell to them at cheaper rate, simple

Even if that means US will buy at higher price, subsides and resell to India at lower prices no one cares




Are the US giving them the weapon for free? Or are they giving them 1 fighter jet for 2 ruppee?

India even cancelled weapons they've already ordered but yet to be delivered from Russia because of this war, they can afford to do that but expecting India to cancel gas which will invariably implode her economy and starve her citizens is asking for too much

It's like 2 of my neighbors fighting one which is a food seller then people are expecting me to starve my family by not buying food from the fighting neighbor even when there is no viable alternative

When China is bullying India why didn't US stop patronizing China and ask all of their allies to do same for sake of India?
God bless you for this bro. Many of these guys here on NL no just get sense cos of the blind love for the West.The West are so selfish and the opposite of what they depict themselves to be.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by pafo(m): 12:45pm On Mar 27, 2022
MadamVanessa:
shocked


India is so insignificant with their abject poverty statusgrin


Average countries that is paralyzed with POVERTY are the ones supporting Russiagrin Afghanistan inclusivegrin

A country with 1.3 biilion people os insignificant? Whew! The way the lot of you reason lol.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by IyfeNamikaze(m): 12:48pm On Mar 27, 2022
oluwaseyi0:
US should go and invade Indian

Everyone must be their puppet by fire by force

Many European countries are freely patronizing Russian gas but India shouldn't simply because uk/USA say so, it's like they are mad

If you don't want them to buy from Russia sell to them at cheaper rate, simple

Even if that means US will buy at higher price, subsides and resell to India at lower prices no one cares




Are the US giving them the weapon for free? Or are they giving them 1 fighter jet for 2 ruppee?

India even cancelled weapons they've already ordered but yet to be delivered from Russia because of this war, they can afford to do that but expecting India to cancel gas which will invariably implode her economy and starve her citizens is asking for too much

It's like 2 of my neighbors fighting one which is a food seller then people are expecting me to starve my family by not buying food from the fighting neighbor even when there is no viable alternative

When China is bullying India why didn't US stop patronizing China and ask all of their allies to do same for sake of India?

I'm happy that there are still some sensible people in this forum. I stopped coming to nairaland due to the many mumu braindead comments that threatened my sanity each time i open a thread.

Thank you sir/Ma for this comment.

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Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by King2019(m): 12:58pm On Mar 27, 2022
Georgejeez:
How USA even de feel sef?
I blame the foolish European countries dancing to their tune while their continent boils and burns .

The earlier The European countries put their continent first , sideline UN, NATO whatever , call the leadership of Russia and Ukraine to sit down , then settle the matter amicably , the better for them .

US been playing on their intelligence, imagine deceiving all of them to stop buying crude and gas from Russia, yet they themselves buy Crude from same Russia,, deceive and threaten with sanctions to stop EU from purchasing gas from Russia so they can ship their own gas at exorbitant prices to sell for mumu Europe and continue to cash out .

If they are truly serious , why don't they (US) sell their own gas at same price as Russian gas to the European countries so they can easily stop buying Russian gas and still not spend more .

Show me a Yahoo Nation and I will show you USA
The US, Canada including Europeans are all the same... EUROPEANS
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Emeskhalifa(m): 1:00pm On Mar 27, 2022
MadamVanessa:
shocked


India is so insignificant with their abject poverty statusgrin


Average countries that is paralyzed with POVERTY are the ones supporting Russiagrin Afghanistan inclusivegrin

I think the insignificant country here is countries in Africa. Abi u don hear say American president ask African countries not to have anything to do with Russia?

Lols Nigeria the country you are dwelling in recently sold some Military vehicles to Belarus (a country loyal to Russia) yet that didn't draw the attention of US to us. Doesn't that tell you who the insignificant is cheesy
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Nasa28(m): 1:19pm On Mar 27, 2022
oluwaseyi0:
US should go and invade Indian

Everyone must be their puppet by fire by force

Many European countries are freely patronizing Russian gas but India shouldn't simply because uk/USA say so, it's like they are mad

If you don't want them to buy from Russia sell to them at cheaper rate, simple

Even if that means US will buy at higher price, subsides and resell to India at lower prices no one cares




Are the US giving them the weapon for free? Or are they giving them 1 fighter jet for 2 ruppee?

India even cancelled weapons they've already ordered but yet to be delivered from Russia because of this war, they can afford to do that but expecting India to cancel gas which will invariably implode her economy and starve her citizens is asking for too much

It's like 2 of my neighbors fighting one which is a food seller then people are expecting me to starve my family by not buying food from the fighting neighbor even when there is no viable alternative

When China is bullying India why didn't US stop patronizing China and ask all of their allies to do same for sake of India?
God bless you.
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by calcal: 1:23pm On Mar 27, 2022
The question is WHY nomerica is threatening other nations that are not on their side?
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by Johnrake69: 1:34pm On Mar 27, 2022
Oyiboman69:
any sensible person will smell their antics of power tussle with the west from a far....
It is not lost on us that Africa is a hunting ground for European super powers who find comfort in our state of unrest.

Like China, Russia is just trying to reignite their influence on Africa and like I said,some of us can smell it from a distance cos they are no more difference from their western counterpart as they are also interested in gaining popularity as their journey to Africa is already late. However a troubled Africa is a welcoming environment for foreign invaders....

First, you need to purge yourself of your bias for the west.

We have no business supporting the sanctions on Russia.

For us to have a balanced and fair world we need these world powers at the opposing ends. The day America, China, and Russia becomes an ally then we’re all finished.

Secondly, as a matter of foreign policy we should simply reciprocate how any country supports our interest.

We shouldn’t pick sides because America or NATO said so.

So there’s nothing to smell. I simply gave a run down of how they have supported decolonization in Africa which the West brought upon us Africans.
Re: US Brands India’s Response To Ukraine War ‘Unsatisfactory by simplesearch: 1:38pm On Mar 27, 2022
Idaytesj29:


USA the international bully. Your sanctions don finish? Sanction India too na. Infact, sanction every country other than yourself. Self centered country

Look here, there has to be a leader everywhere and in everything, especially where two or more people are involved. Even you as a man want to call the shot over your wife and when the children arrive you extend your authority to them. Does that implies you're a bully, not at all. Authority has to be maintained even among nations of the earth with strong reason and persuasion for nations involved to yield. That's how politics is played and that extend to international politics as well. Americans are not bully at all, else they would invade every nation that disagree with them. Did they do well to prevent Iraq from invading Kuwait, I believe your answer is yes. Same goes for Russias mad invasion of Afghanistan, was US indirect intervention justifiable? You know the answer, but do you call Russia a bully for invading Afghanistan? Even in cases where the US decides to stay aloof, small nations still beg for their assistance in times of war or other internal crises. In conclusion, several nations have benefited from their financial aid over the decades, directly or indirectly. It is therefore impossible to want their aid only without their advice and input.

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