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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by adamusuleiman1: 9:30pm On Apr 07, 2022
Excuzeme:




I am not comparing them to Nigeria at all. grin grin Nigeria is a basket case of bad leadership and corrupt Citizens.
Read my post again.

I even mentioned that those countries you mentioned, host American Military Bases, which makes them a "Vassal State" of America.
Japanese people, Cubans have been demonstrating that they dont want American Military Base on their Soil, for years, but the Americans have refused to leave and they cant force them to leave! What do you call that?

In return, America will not attack them or "sanction/rob" them of their Resources.
That they are successful is not in doubt (they have good Leaders too) but that others are in Poverty (which is what l am on about, despite also having good leaders) a[b]nd are opposed to America, has to do with American Imperialism and Evil.
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I dont know if you will understand what l have summarised into two paragraphs but you can get more information in books written by renowned Western Authors, on American Imperialism and how it is used to Impoverish other Nations.

Do you know that even Libya behind us here in Africa, is one of the richest countries in the world, until America destroyed it?
You can read up on Libyan History and how the American Govt destroyed it, culminating in the murder of President Ghadafi.
That country, just as many other countries invaded by America, has been in turmoil till today and the "Internal Puppets" used to achieve it are regretting themselves, till today.
That is how America inflicts POVERTY on these countries but "we" turn around to say they are Poor Countries.
Why hasn't America invaded South Africa which is a very resource rich country and doing well for an African country?

Remember that South Africa has no US base

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by grandstar(m): 9:31pm On Apr 07, 2022
It is always best to listen to all sides rather than to just one.

The West, no matter how hard they want to punish Russia might suffer some severe repercussions in the form of their citizens paying considerably higher prices for certain goods and services. It will be denialist to state there isn't a groundswell of opposition to rising prices of energy and food globally. This can cost incumbents dearly in the next election and bring in politicians with a more moderate stance on the sanctions on Russia. Also, there are also the real threats of a recession within the next 24 months, partly triggered by these sanctions. Recessions are never kind to incumbents on polling days.

The West may have Ukraine's and the world's best interest but there's just a limit to the pain their citizens seem ready to bear. A middle ground would have to be met where the world compels Russia to move out of Ukraine in exchange for lifting some sanctions and Ukraine forgoing NATO membership.

In regards to Donetsk and Donbas, something has to give. Even if Zelensky wants to let go of those provinces, Ukrainians may not want to let go of them believing they can defeat Russia and have no need to dance to Putin any longer. Crimea may even become a sticky problem again.

Anyway, it may be prudent that the EU and US push for a referendum on the Donetsk,Donbas and Crimea or to be put on hold at least, until peace returns by the Russians pulling out.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Idaytesj29(m): 9:31pm On Apr 07, 2022
mpire:


Hopefully boko haram with the Fulani kidnappers will attack your family, rape your mother, sister, wife, nieces and take them as spoils of war on their way to Chad after they've sodomized you.

Look at this nonentity, who takes you and your stupid emotional tantrums seriously? So, if we ever elect you as president or an ambassador, this is the agberoism and stupidity you will go and be displaying among committee of nations right? No, someone like you can never amount to anything important and serious ever in your life. So, we don't have to worry.

I am telling you the reality of war, you are cursing yourself. When the federal forces attacked your Biafra, it was your family they attacked, it was your mother they raped, sister, wife, nieces and they took them as spoils of war. They are scattered around the other regions of the country shelling out babies.

You will not even be sodomized cos you get to live, that will be too merciful. They will shoot you on all your joints at close range and leave you to die a slow and painful death, easily granting you your wish for yourself and your useless family.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Idaytesj29(m): 9:32pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:

Well, looting is a war crime. That's the Koko. It doesn't matter which side it's coming from.

If Russia had not entered Ukraine UNINVITED, then their tanks wouldn't be dragged away by Ukrainian farmers.


Its war, its what it is.

The best is to avoid war, if not, there is no rules of engagement. All of that only work on paper.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Excuzeme: 9:34pm On Apr 07, 2022
mpire:
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You are an animal, I don't waste my time with iidiots living in a shithole but still manage to think invading a sovereign nation is perfectly alright. Let's hope boko haram kill you all then.


I wont roll in the gutter with Pigs like you.
It is very easy to identify children who are not properly raised, Children of "absent parents", the "born-thro'ways".
undecided undecided

Now that we know your type, scram and buzz-off with your mates.
While at it, you better get treated for this your mental and emotional instability, before you run enter Express (l did not say you are deranged, dont get me wrong)
grin grin

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by gambojimeta: 9:36pm On Apr 07, 2022
adamusuleiman1:

Just as that guy mentioned, but how is Singapore, UAE, Malaysia, South Korea and other succesful nation being exploited by America?

South Korea for example was poorer than Nigeria some 60 years ago as they just escaped a brutal colonisation from Japan.

Same as Singapore that was colonised by Britain.

These examples of countries are highly successful.

I think it's just a lazy attempt to blame western power for the corruption and wickedness black leaders impose on their people in Africa.
You dey mind the guy. He just ignored that those countries were under dictatorship and the US/NATO only carried out the military exercise on Libya on the request of the UN security Council.

Just a guy looking to blame their leaders failure and woes on the West.

Maybe America denied him visa grin
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by gambojimeta: 9:38pm On Apr 07, 2022
Idaytesj29:


Its war, its what it is.

The best is to avoid war, if not, there is no rules of engagement. All of that only work on paper.
Yes best to avoid war and that's why the majority of the committee of nations are jointly condemning Russia for being the agressor.

Simple as ABC
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by rayval(m): 9:40pm On Apr 07, 2022
tit:
The West go hear am when the war fully starts.
Let them continue

And you will be balling in Nigeria I guess

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Excuzeme: 9:41pm On Apr 07, 2022
grandstar:


In regards to Donetsk and Donbas, something has to give. Even if Zelensky wants to let go of those provinces, Ukrainians may not want to let go of them believing they can defeat Russia and have no need to dance to Putin any longer. Crimea may even become a sticky problem again.

Anyway, it may be prudent that the EU and US push for a referendum on the Donetsk,Donbas and Crimea or to be put on hold at least, until peace returns by the Russians pulling out.

The People of Lugansk, Donetsk and Crimea all conducted a Referendum, to decide where they wanna be and Crimea chose to be with Russia while the other two chose to be independent Countries on their own.
That was why the Ukrainian Forces have been shelling the Dombas Region since 2014.

Why would they want to conduct a second Referendum again?

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by gambojimeta: 9:42pm On Apr 07, 2022
tit:
The West go hear am when the war fully starts.
Let them continue

rayval:


And you will be balling in Nigeria I guess
Last time it was Putin saying it was poor countries that will suffer most.

The West is rich and would take care of their people

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Idaytesj29(m): 9:45pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:

Yes best to avoid war and that's why the majority of the committee of nations are jointly condemning Russia for being the agressor.

They should let the UN play her role. What we need to be hearing now is the UN brokering a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine. Only neutral countries should be part of the diplomatic negotiations like Norway - (Known for Peace), Netherland, Belgium. In Asia, India, South Korea, Australia (somewhat neutral), South America, Brazil, Argentina, Africa, South Africa,Morocco and Egypt.

After 3 days of discussions, Russia should be asked to suspend all hostilities and all sanctions be dropped.

In another 2 weeks or so, a diplomatic solution or political solution will be found.

Anything aside that is the world taking side based on interests and alliances.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by rayval(m): 9:47pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:



Last time it was Putin saying it was poor countries that will suffer most.

The West is rich and would take care of their people

Africans go suffer… serious suffer. I just pray for peace

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by bakar007: 9:50pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:

I am enjoying seeing Russians flee to America as well just to escape poverty and dictatorship in Russia. grin
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/northamerica/20220126/1601136ac5594260b438743420780c85/c.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html

Russia far better than the US who invade countries to steal ,kill and destroy lives . Invading countries and sponsoring conflicts over the world , Invade Iraq over crude (lied about nuclear bomb that was non existent in the country) ,same with Syria and Libyan killing millions . Over 200 year plus of war history causing destruction bloodshed around the world to fund their economy and good lifestyle. Slave mentality is the only reason people fail to see who is the aggressor .

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Benny6944: 9:51pm On Apr 07, 2022
tit:
The West go hear am when the war fully starts. Let them continue

when thousands and millions support Ukraine, what's hundreds lol

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by gambojimeta: 9:53pm On Apr 07, 2022
bakar007:

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/northamerica/20220126/1601136ac5594260b438743420780c85/c.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html

Russia far better than the US who invade countries to steal ,kill and destroy lives . Invading countries and sponsoring conflicts over the world , Invade Iraq over crude (lied about nuclear bomb that was non existent in the country) ,same with Syria and Libyan killing millions . Over 200 year plus of war history causing destruction bloodshed around the world to fund their economy and good lifestyle. Slave mentality is the only reason people fail to see who is the aggressor .
The US did not even engage in war outside the USA until after 1914 or so. I don't know where you got your 200 years from.

The only war of the USA I fault in your list is Iraq. All others were either justified or sanctioned by the UN security Council which Russia is a member of or used to be.

Russia has been fighting wars within Europe for centuries.
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Excuzeme: 9:56pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:

You dey mind the guy. He just ignored that those countries were under dictatorship and the US/NATO only carried out the military exercise on Libya on the request of the UN security Council.

Just a guy looking to blame their leaders failure and woes on the West.

Maybe America denied him visa grin

That is a dumb thing to say, when you dont even know who you are conversing with or where the person is conversing from! grin grin
Some of you think everything starts and ends with an American Visa! grin grin
What will you do with the American Passport (not Visa!), if you have it today? Yes, You?
Anyway, lets skip that area, it has nothing to do with this discussion.

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I am not blaming the West for the failure of African Leaders. Most African Leaders (not all) are Crooks.

I am saying that America also impoverishes rich Nations, using Sanctions and seizure of assets.
Venezuela is another Example, a very small but rich country that would not dance to america's tune! It was sanctioned and its Assets stolen, it was embargoed and prevented from selling its Oil, just because it will not play-ball and become an American stooge in Latin America.

Dictator or not, Libya was a very, very rich and thriving country, before the US invaded it. Today, it is one of the poorest and most unstable in Africa.

Why did the US invade Libya? Why did they invade Iraq?
We all know how the US uses "fear and threats" to get Nations to vote on its side, for UN Resolutions, that is not even up for debate.

Recently, America has been threatening India and China, for not voting in favor of its Resolution against Russia.
Those "UN Resolutions" are not worth the paper they are written on, because they are got using coercion, especially of weaker Nations.
UN Resolutions on Iraq was got with a "Mother of all Lies", that it has WMD. undecided
UN Resolution on Libya, was got with threats and bargains (Infact, Russia agreed to the resolution in Exchange for America allowing it to join World Trade Organisation! Go and read it up.)
How can we call such thing a "Resolution"?


I see that you dont "recall" the Vietnam War, the Nuclear bombing of Japanese Cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, , The Korean War (which split Korea into North and South), the War in Afghanistan, etc. grin grin

Anyway, it is what it is. undecided

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by edosignature(m): 9:58pm On Apr 07, 2022
Long live Russia, Long live Vladimir Putin.
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by bakar007: 10:00pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:

The US did not even engage in war outside the USA until after 1914 or so. I don't know where you got your 200 years from.

The only war of the USA I fault in your list is Iraq. All others were either justified or sanctioned by the UN security Council which Russia is a member of or used to be.

Russia has been fighting wars within Europe for centuries.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/595752-the-us-has-been-at-war-225-out-of-243-years-since-1776

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by edosignature(m): 10:01pm On Apr 07, 2022
Long live Russia, Long live Vladimir Putin.

Russia to the world

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Benny6944: 10:01pm On Apr 07, 2022
Smithkafors:
U sure?, have u seen the pics of Ukrainian cities bombed without recognition?.



Russians 500b$ reserve will rebuild it.
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Excuzeme: 10:08pm On Apr 07, 2022
gambojimeta:



Last time it was Putin saying it was poor countries that will suffer most.

The West is rich and would take care of their people

When people in the West are already carrying Placard and complaining about High Cost of Living (Food, Household Gas, Fuel Gas, etc)?
President Bidens Govt has to give out $200 Fuel Vouchers last week, some European Countries have to give out same Amount to their Citizens to cushion the price of Electricity, Three weeks ago!

If this War goes on for too long, Food shortage world wide, is guaranteed, Ofcourse, there has always been food shortage in Nigeria grin
Ukraine and Russia accounts for about 80% of World Wheat, a staple in many countries.
Ukraine cant produce a grain of food right now (and for sometime to come), while Russia which produces is under Sanctions.
Europe depends on a lot of food grains coming from Russia and what they are doing is described as "Shooting One's self in the foot".
Cutting -off one's Nose, to spite One's face.
The EU has been shouting and threatening but up till now, they cant cut Russian gas and Oil off. undecided undecided
Maybe they would start using firewood sha.
grin grin
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by techWriter3: 10:11pm On Apr 07, 2022
I necessity to liner like this killing to all capitalist chickens everywhere
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by farouk2much(m): 10:12pm On Apr 07, 2022
Smart move by germans
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by pquaver(m): 10:16pm On Apr 07, 2022
tit:
The West go hear am when the war fully starts.
Let them continue

Germany has a large number of Russian especially east Germany Berlin area because of ussr colonisation of the DDR of East Germany.. After world War 2 many pow stayed back and became Germans.. U see lots of them.. It changes nothing. There lots of Ukrainians too
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by FERNANDEZISBACK: 10:19pm On Apr 07, 2022
PraiseGodNoTime:
Go and source a good food to eat so that you will start reasoning well.
Go and feed your God.. grin
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by AdeolaOmoOba(m): 10:19pm On Apr 07, 2022
The day twitter banned Donald Trump, that was the day I knew that there is a global hidden media agenda.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by adm212144: 10:26pm On Apr 07, 2022
bakar007:

Are you saying Russia should allow NATO use UKRAINE to circle Russia militarily?
UKRAINE already playing the role of puppets to the west since the west did that coup and install their peppets which was the beginning of the conflict since 2014.
we are talking about a nation /country here .if west suit them they have the freedom .
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by grandstar(m): 10:26pm On Apr 07, 2022
Excuzeme:


The People of Lugansk, Donetsk and Crimea all conducted a Referendum, to decide where they wanna be and Crimea chose to be with Russia while the other two chose to be independent Countries on their own.
That was why the Ukrainian Forces have been shelling the Dombas Region since 2014.

Why would they want to conduct a second Referendum again?

I wish I knew more about this.

Under what conditions was the referendum conducted? Were the referendums carried out after they were invaded and under the Kremlin's watch? In such a situation, what do you think the vote will be?

Russia isn't a model for democracy. Everyone knows elections in Russia are a joke. They lack credibility. All Russian republics and provinces are run by Putin's appointees and cronies. Previously, they were elected.

The so-called separatists were sponsored by Russia. If the then Ukrainian president was chummy with Putin, Putin would have sent in his army to crush the rebels. Trust me, Putin's hands are not clean.

The matter isn't as simple as you see. Putin did not need to invade Ukraine to prevent it from joining NATO. Russia did not need to fire a single shot to prevent it from happening. Its protestations, if loud enough, would have achieved that result.

Many nations fear recognizing Taiwan as a sovereign nation, lest they annoy China. So, the most Taiwan has with most countries is a trade office. Any country that recognizes Taiwan as a separate country is immediately alienated by China. China will close down its embassy and all trade will stop.

Russia has a lot to offer and the West would therefore not want to annoy Putin. The invasion was bigger than the NATO issue. Putin wanted Ukraine as a docile satellite state like Belorussia, a country that dances whenever Putin sings. Ukrainians wanted nothing of the sort. It was also a warning to other former Russian allies not to cross the Kremlin's path. Putin has been meddling in the affairs of former Soviet countries like Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Estonia to name a few. He is fond of autocrats and detests plutocrats. The Belorussian president has been in power since the country gained independence in 1991!

This time it went too far by invasion and unknown to him, Ukraine and the West were waiting for him. The bullying has to stop one day.

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Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by DerrickzB: 10:31pm On Apr 07, 2022
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FERNANDEZISBACK:
It's normal..but it doesn't change the fact that Russia is failing woefully in Ukraine.. grin
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Try rest
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by bakar007: 10:38pm On Apr 07, 2022
adm212144:
we are talking about a nation /country here .if west suit them they have the freedom .
Good for you, so your neighbour wants to house your enemies directly to your doorstep , you will keep quiet waiting for your doomsday Abi
Will the so called US allow Russia or China to deploy it military hardware close to her borders, Cuba still suffering today in the hands of the US for their relationship with Russia.
Re: German Citizens Hold 400-Car Motorcade To Show Support For Russia by Navalsadiq(m): 10:44pm On Apr 07, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
It's normal..but it doesn't change the fact that Russia is failing woefully in Ukraine.. grin

Modified:who is that guy saying USA lost in Vietnam..well USA was not in Vietnam to win or anything and they didn't lose like they weren't outgunned..they decided to leave..

The US was never defeated... The truth is that the US had no clear war exit policy...When it became a political issue favoring pullout of US forces.. this left South Vietnam in a precarious position as they didn’t have the resources or the will to continue fighting effectively against the North... Until the South was defeated

For the US...victory was never defined as defeating the North Vietnamese...
The main reason the US pulled out of the Vietnam War was that American support was against continuing it as it cost too many American lives and the costs didn’t justify continued financing...not like they were defeated or something..
it cost too many American life

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