FLEE WOMAN ! FLEE !! FLEE!!!

Its so heartbreaking to hear that she is no more.

Sis Osinachi Nwachukwu

Her song has blessed so many lives.

Dear Woman,

It is true the Bible teaches women to submit to their husbands.

But the moment your husband starts beating you up on a regular basis and you keep mute about it.

THAT IS NO SUBMISSION, IT IS MERE FOOLISHNESS.

The Bible states ,

WISDOM IS PROFITABLE TO DIRECT

STAY ALIVE TO FIGHT FOR YOUR MARRIAGE

How do you fight?

FLEE! FLEE!! FLEE!!!

FLEE THAT VIOLENT HUSBAND!

FLEE THAT ABUSIVE HUSBAND!

SEPARATION DOES NOT EQUAL DIVORCE

God hates Divorce, but I have not seen anywhere in the bible that God says that you should remain under the same roof with a man that is physically assaulting you on a regular basis.

Dear Woman FLEE!

I don’t want you to get me wrong here.

DON’T FLEE INTO THE HANDS OF ANOTHER MAN.

But rather, while separated from your husband,

PRAY, PRAY, PRAY

Pray for your husband for God to change him.

Pray for your marriage too.

SEE, it is only the LIVING THAT CAN FIGHT FOR HER MARRIAGE

STAY ALIVE WOMAN !

STAY SAFE!

Like the FRSC Slogan,

SAFETY FIRST, SAFETY ALWAYS

#enddomesticviolence
#Separationisnotdivorce
#vawulence

Kemistri:
FLEE WOMAN ! FLEE !! FLEE!!!
Its so heartbreaking to hear that she is no more.

Sis Osinachi Nwachukwu
Her song has blessed so many lives.
Dear Woman,
It is true the Bible teaches women to submit to their husbands.
But the moment your husband starts beating you up on a regular basis and you keep mute about it.
THAT IS NO SUBMISSION, IT IS MERE FOOLISHNESS.
The Bible states ,
WISDOM IS PROFITABLE TO DIRECT

The statements in bold are not true of scripture. Scripture instead states that submission in marriage is a curse placed by God Himself on marriage from after the fall of man- Genesis 3 vs 16 - so it is wrong to claim that submission is God's commandments to men and God is the only one who command His own.

Kobojunkie:
The statements in bold are not true of scripture. Scripture instead states that submission in marriage is a curse placed by God Himself on marriage from after the fall of man- Genesis 3 vs 16 - so it is wrong to claim that submission is God's commandments to men and God is the only one who command His own.

Please read Eph 5:22-23. Wives, submit unto your own husbands,as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church,and he is the saviour of the body.

God has given the man , the headship position in marriage, that is the Divine order. Note that, Marriage was God's idea , Gen 2:18. God instituted Marriage and gave headship to the man( though God never said man should take advantage of the woman because he is the head). But rather God commanded the man to love his wife, Eph 5:25.

Anything that has two heads is a monster, in marriage, there is just one head and that is the man.

Kemistri:
1. Please read Eph 5:22-23. Wives, submit unto your own husbands,as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church,and he is the saviour of the body.

2. God has given the man , the headship position in marriage, that is the Divine order. Note that, Marriage was God's idea , Gen 2:18. God instituted Marriage and gave headship to the man( though God never said man should take advantage of the woman because he is the head). But rather God commanded the man to love his wife, Eph 5:25.

3. Anything that has two heads is a monster, in marriage, there is just one head and that is the man.

1. Ephesians 5 does not quote God since God's curse om marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16, He, God, never revoked.

2. The same God who created marriage in Genesis 2 vs 8 is recorded to have cursed marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16. God's curse on marriage is the source of what you claim as headship for men - the curse is inequality of man and woman in marriage.

3. You are obviously wrong since in Jesus Christ, equally is restored in marriage. Yes, all those who are saved from the curse instead live as equals even in their marriages.

The Nigerian woman will not flee, they will rather go to their pastors for marital advice. The pastors will ask them to endure and give fasting and prayers to change the man.
The average Nigerian woman will rather die as a Mrs than divorce an abusive husband.

Kobojunkie:
1. Ephesians 5 does not quote God since God's curse om marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16, He, God, never revoked.

2. The same God who created marriage in Genesis 2 vs 8 is recorded to have cursed marriage in Genesis 3 vs 16. God's curse on marriage is the source of what you claim as headship for men - the curse is inequality of man and woman in marriage.

3. You are obviously wrong since in Jesus Christ, equally is restored in marriage. Yes, all those who are saved from the curse instead live as equals even in their marriages.

That's is a brilliant inference!
But can you support this inference with a verse in the Bible? I mean equality in marriage, what chapter and verse?

Kemistri:


That's is a brilliant inference!
But can you support this inference with a verse in the Bible? I mean equality in marriage, what chapter and verse?

The stands still remains as this
For a God-ordained marriage, I mean the one between a MAN and a WOMAN not man and man, not man and crocodile, not woman and woman, not boy and girl, not man and snake ,etc.

I mean the kind of marriage God ordained is between a man and woman and God ordained the man as the head. Fullstop. No philosophy can change that.

Kemistri:
That's is a brilliant inference!
But can you support this inference with a verse in the Bible? I mean equality in marriage, what chapter and verse?

It isn't an inference, instead it is what is actually contained right there in your Bible. God is the author of the curse that is headship of man/submission in marriage - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - and God never revoked that curse in all of scripture.

Instead, God sent Jesus Christ to give men Salvation from the curse - Jesus Christ restored equality in marriage this by decreasing that He alone is Master/Head/Lord, Teacher, Authority, Shepherd, Helper etc. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & John 10 vs 1 - 16 & John 16 vs 11 - 20. In His Kingdom all are equals regardless of earthly marital status - Luke 20 vs 34 - 37.

Kobojunkie:
It isn't an inference, instead it is what is actually contained right there in your Bible. God is the author of the curse that is headship of man/submission in marriage - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - and God never revoked that curse in all of scripture.

Instead, God sent Jesus Christ to give men Salvation from the curse - Jesus Christ restored equality in marriage this by decreasing that He alone is Master/Head/Lord, Teacher, Authority, Shepherd, Helper etc. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10 & John 10 vs 1 - 16 & John 16 vs 11 - 20. In His Kingdom all are equals regardless of earthly marital status - Luke 20 vs 34 - 37.

Yes, all men and women are equal in every aspect of life.
But in the institution called marriage, there is just one head, that is the man.

Note that , God did not put man in position of leadership in marriage so that he can Lord over her or mistreat her or abuse her. Rather, the man is to treat her with love.

Like I said anything that has two heads is a monster. So saying equality in marriage can be likened to a man with two heads, that's abnormal.

For proper adminstration in the home, there has to be a head, and that is the man.

Now I am talking about a God-ordained marriage here.

There are other kinds of marriage that men have instituted for themselves, anything can be applicable there.

But for a God-instituted marriage , the man is the head, this does not mean the woman is inferior. But rather she allows for the man to lead while she supports him.

For Every game, there is a rule. If you choose to play the game of football, but applied the rules of handball, the person will be disqualified.

So also in marriage, God has set the standards and rules in Eph 5:22-25. Those rules are not negotiable

Kemistri:
Yes, all men and women are equal in every aspect of life.
But in the institution called marriage, there is just one head, that is the man.

Stop deceiving yourself thinking you deceive God!

Jesus Christ said everyone in the Kingdom of God are equals, not sometimes and not in some institutions - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10. He alone is Head and Master over each and everyone who belongs to Him - You can't serve two Masters/Head in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 10 vs 28. Christ also said your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

The But you however claim in your statement above is not of Jesus Christ or of the Kingdom of God , but of your need to assert God's curse on marriage as the rule over you this since you cannot seem to trust God's Will, Jesus Christ, over the curse which you have rationalized for yourself.

Kobojunkie:
Stop deceiving yourself thinking you deceive God!

Jesus Christ said everyone in the Kingdom of God are equals, not sometimes and not in some institutions - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10. He alone is Head and Master over each and everyone who belongs to Him - You can't serve two Masters/Head in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 10 vs 28. Christ also said your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

The But you however claim in your statement above is not of Jesus Christ or of the Kingdom of God , but of your need to assert God's curse on marriage as the rule over you this since you cannot seem to trust God's Will, Jesus Christ, over the curse which you have rationalized for yourself.

Your convos use to make me laugh anytime I remember your comment saying you aren't a Christian, omo even Christian gaan no dey quote bible reach you, or perhaps the username I saw was just similar to yours because the way you are always quoting bible, even Mummy G.O sef no do reach you.

Abeg, you be Christian abi you no be Christian, which one?

This is why one must carefully and prayerfully know who they are to marry. For an unbeliever anything goes but for a Christian one must be careful. There are two categories of humans, those who are children of the devil and those who are children of God.

Light have no business with darkness.
But when one is already married to an unbeliever one must be very careful and prayerful.

Life is not a joke.

truthsayer009:


Your convos use to make me laugh anytime I remember your comment saying you aren't a Christian, omo even Christian gaan no dey quote bible reach you, or perhaps the username I saw was just similar to yours because the way you are always quoting bible, even Mummy G.O sef no do reach you.

Abeg, you be Christian abi you no be Christian, which one?

The devil can quote the scriptures more than most Bible scholars. And some people can twist the Bible to suit their arguments.

Kobojunkie...

Man and woman are equal, however there is something called HIERARCHY....

And in a God ordained marriage, that hierarchy is

Christ...
Man...
Woman...

Any other arrangement of the above hierarchy will result in DISASTER!

truthsayer009:
Your convos use to make me laugh anytime I remember your comment saying you aren't a Christian, omo even Christian gaan no dey quote bible reach you, or perhaps the username I saw was just similar to yours because the way you are always quoting bible, even Mummy G.O sef no do reach you.

Abeg, you be Christian abi you no be Christian, which one?

I said I am not a Christian if by Christian you mean one who bows to the religion out there born of the doctrines and traditions of men which generally represent Christianity. I like to consider myself instead a follower of Jesus Christ since that is what I infact do.

Favfables1:
Kobojunkie...
Man and woman are equal, however there is something called HIERARCHY....
And in a God ordained marriage, that hierarchy is

Christ...
Man...
Woman...

Any other arrangement of the above hierarchy will result in DISASTER!

As I have tried to explained, there are none of your earthly hierarchies in the Kingdom of God. There is Jesus Christ ,the Vine Himself, and every one(irrespective of earthly status, gender and age) else a branch directly off the vine - John 15 vs 1 - 11

Your earthly hierarchies exist outside of the Kingdom of God and have absolutely nothing to do with that which was commanded of God through Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
I said I am not a Christian if by Christian you mean one who bows to the religion out there born of the doctrines and traditions of men which generally represent Christianity. I like to consider myself instead a follower of Jesus Christ since that is what I infact do.

Deep sigh! this your response even confused me more. Anyway, thanks.

ImaIma1:


The devil can quote the scriptures more than most Bible scholars. And some people can twist the Bible to suit their arguments.

Hmm okay.

Kobojunkie:
The statements in bold are not true of scripture. Scripture instead states that submission in marriage is a curse placed by God Himself on marriage from after the fall of man- Genesis 3 vs 16 - so it is wrong to claim that submission is God's commandments to men and God is the only one who command His own.

Even Satan would be proud of such interpretation.

postmann:
Even Satan would be proud of such interception.

Why would Satabe be proud in this instance?

Kobojunkie:
Why would Satabe be proud in this instance?

Because he hadn't for a long while any disciple so wise as to lead many astray with cleverly deceptive scriptural interpretation as yours.

postmann:
Because he hadn't for a long while any disciple so wise as to lead many astray with cleverly deceptive scriptural interpretation as yours.

So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

Kobojunkie:
So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

Whatever church you attend and whoever pastors you is of a huge interest to me if your heretic message stems therefrom.

I'll pick your scriptural references one at a time.

GOD never cursed marriage as you claimed. Rather HE laid a curse on two individuals who transgressed. He actually blesses marriage; "he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtain favour from the LORD" ( proverbs 18: 22).

It is of special curiousity to me however, why you feel the curse laid on the woman for her transgression, in that she should be subject to her husband, was done away with by the sacrificial intervention of CHRIST, but others like the curse on the land (how it would be difficult to yield food for the man), the curse on the serpent to go down on his belly and eat dust weren't. And the curse also of physical death was not equally done away with by same sacrificial intervention of CHRIST.

Well, the man, before that great fall was placed ahead of the woman. He wasn't just created first, he actually was given the earth to tender and supervised before the woman was even created. And When she was indeed created, he named her like he named every other animal GOD created.

GOD's instructions were directly passed to the man and not the woman. GOD was through with how HE wanted the garden of Eden to function and HE placed Adam as the manager. It was only when Adam was going about his GOD-ordained duties did GOD see his need for a help meet. The ground was caused for Adam's sake and not Eve's because it was given to Adam. Adam was clearly the head. And when they ate of the forbidden fruit of which GOD already knew, HE asked Adam first, ignoring Eve because it was Adam HE gave instructions to who was meant to pass it on to Eve. By calling Adam first and questioning him, HE knew Adam was primarily responsible because HE placed him incharge. Adam shouldn't have let Eve slipped under his watch and GOD held him to account.

The curse on Eve that his husband would rule over her was merely an emphasis on what GOD has already ordained right from creation before the fall because Eve was guilty of usurpation, trying to dominate Adam by assuming the leadership position in leading him (into sin).

1 cor 11: 3. "But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God."

This is a divine strata of hierarchical standing irrespective of sin or the lack thereof. CHRIST is our head irrespective of whether we are sinners or not. Likewise the man is the head of the woman regardless of the fall or curse.

Lastly, your reference to Jeremiah was a gross abuse of scriptural application since you took it out of context. The passage was only a pointer to anyone who would look unto any being as a replacement of GOD as some of the Israelites were doing in the time of difficulty.

postmann:


Whatever church you attend and whoever pastors you is of a huge interest to me if your heretic message stems therefrom.

I'll pick your scriptural references one at a time.

GOD never cursed marriage as you claimed. Rather HE laid a curse on two individuals who transgressed. He actually blesses marriage; "he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtain favour from the LORD" ( proverbs 18: 22).

It is of special curiousity to me however, why you feel the curse laid on the woman for her transgression, in that she should be subject to her husband, was done away with by the sacrificial intervention of CHRIST, but others like the curse on the land (how it would be difficult to yield food for the man), the curse on the serpent to go down on his belly and eat dust wasn't, and the curse also of physical death was not equally done away with by same sacrificial intervention of CHRIST.

Well, the man, before that great fall was placed ahead of the woman. He wasn't just created first, he actually was given the earth to tender and supervised before the woman was even created. And When she was indeed created, he named her like he named every other animal GOD created.

GOD's instructions were directly passed to the man and not the woman. GOD was through with how HE wanted the garden of Eden to function and HE placed Adam as the manager. It was only when Adam was going about his GOD-ordained duties did GOD see his need for a help meet. The ground was caused for Adam's sake and not Eve's because it was given to Adam. Adam was clearly the head. And when they ate of the forbidden fruit of which GOD already knew, HE asked Adam first, ignoring Eve because it was Adam HE gave instructions to who was meant to pass it on to Eve. By calling Adam first and questioning him, HE knew Adam was primarily responsible because HE placed him incharge. Adam shouldn't have let Eve slipped under his watch and GOD held him to account.

The curse on Eve that his husband would rule over her was merely an emphasis on what GOD has already ordained right from creation before the fall because Eve was guilty of usurpation, trying to dominate Adam by assuming the leadership position in leading him (into sin).

1 cor 11: 3. "But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is the man, and the head of Christ is God."

This is a divine strata of hierarchical standing irrespective of sin or the lack thereof. CHRIST is our head irrespective of whether we are sinners or not. Likewise the man is the head of the woman regardless of the fall or curse.

Lastly, your reference to Jeremiah was a gross abuse of scriptural application since you took it out of context. The passage was only a pointer to anyone who would look unto any being as a replacement of GOD as some of the Israelites were doing in the time of difficulty.

Again...... So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

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Kobojunkie:
Again...... So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in [b]Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

Here I was thinking you were a smart cookie from Satan's greatest machinery of scriptural manipulation. Never knew you were only half-baked

postmann:
[b][/b]Here I was thinking you were a smart cookie from Satan's greatest machinery of scriptural manipulation. Never knew you were only half-baked

so you can't answer the question?

Kobojunkie:
so you can't answer the question?

The answer is staring at you in the face but for the shades of deceit which you hide under, your visions look conveniently impeded.

postmann:
The answer is staring at you in the face but for the shades of deceit which you hide under, your visions look conveniently impeded.

You accused me of being of Satan when what I did was relay ideas that are exactly as stipulated by God Himself... so why aren't you able to show me exactly how you arrived at your conclusion based on scriptures used..

▪︎So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

▪︎And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

▪︎You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

Kobojunkie:
You accused me of being of Satan when what I did was relay ideas that are exactly as stipulated by God Himself... so why aren't you able to show me exactly how you arrived at your conclusion based on scriptures used..

▪︎So, you don't believe God cursed marriage as is written in Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22?

▪︎And you don't believe as God said in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 -11 and repeated by Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 3 - 6, that it is God alone we should trust and obey?

▪︎You believe instead that those claims attributed to God Himself are instead born of Satan, right?

I pointed you to the book of proverbs debunking your evil assertion that GOD cursed marriage, but you turned a blind bat. My conclusion is, you're probably unmarried or divorced, so you'd need a narrative that paints marriage in a colour that soothes your dark reality.

Again, I pointed you to 1corinthians which states a fixed order of GOD over CHRIST and Man over woman, yet you turned a blind eye. I'm hardly surprised.

Your understanding of the passage in Jeremiah only provided more proofs as to why in scripture women are forbidden from attempting to teach scriptures, rather they should be quiet and ask of their husbands. It is always disgraceful when they do otherwise. (1cor 13: 34-35) (1Timothy 2:12.)


You're given to elements of deceit, insincerity of purpose and a self-serving disposition. Your interpretation of scriptures are not based on truth but on the person you have chosen to become. And like Eve, you will not rest until many an Adam takes a bite.

postmann:
I pointed you to the book of proverbs debunking your evil assertion that GOD cursed marriage, but you turned a blind bat. My conclusion is, you're probably unmarried or divorced, so you'd need a narrative that paints marriage in a colour that soothes your dark reality.

Again, I pointed you to 1corinthians which states a fixed order of GOD over CHRIST and Man over woman, yet you turned a blind eye. I'm hardly surprised.

Your understanding of the passage in Jeremiah only provided more proofs as to why in scripture women are forbidden from attempting to teach scriptures, rather they should be quiet and ask of their husbands. It is always disgraceful when they do otherwise. (1cor 13: 34-35) (1Timothy 2:12.)


You're given to elements of deceit, insincerity of purpose and a self-serving disposition. Your interpretation of scriptures are not based on truth but on the person you have chosen to become. And like Eve, you will not rest until many an Adam takes a bite.

I asked 3 simple straightforward questions that require yes/no responses, not this epistle which only seems to make sense to you.

Kobojunkie:
I asked 3 simple straightforward questions that require yes/no responses, not this epistle which only seems to make sense to you.

it's getting dumasaphobic already.

Kobojunkie:
Stop deceiving yourself thinking you deceive God!

Jesus Christ said everyone in the Kingdom of God are equals, not sometimes and not in some institutions - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10. He alone is Head and Master over each and everyone who belongs to Him - You can't serve two Masters/Head in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 10 vs 28. Christ also said your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

The But you however claim in your statement above is not of Jesus Christ or of the Kingdom of God , but of your need to assert God's curse on marriage as the rule over you this since you cannot seem to trust God's Will, Jesus Christ, over the curse which you have rationalized for yourself.

My 2 cents - You are both saying the same thing.
In Genesis - God Instituted marriage - You both agree
You both agree on the Curse - which was that she would long for a husband but he would have authority over her.

Paul in Ephesians provides clarity with regards to Hierarchy and leadership - You cannot have 2 captains run a ship . Christ is the head , followed by the Man and then woman. They are both equal yet when a final decision on a matter is to be said, this decision lies with the head of the family.( the man) .
Could you imagine - discussing ways to discipline a child - one parent says face the wall, the other parent says go to your bed. The guy will be confused whose order does he obey. ( pardon my lousy example) but to avoid confusion. One must lead.
Where the man is not available, the woman is equally equipped to carry out the responsibilities as head of the household.
Paul further when dealing with an Issue in the epistles further says woman should be silent in the church and learn from their husbands ( I understand the reason why but its to show that man in his household have a certain leadership authority over women)