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I asked u to google what happens in case of a spinster because I have realised that many of u non-Muslims copy and paste info from the internet and then come here to use them against Muslims


not sure who or what you're referring to here.
what did i use against muslims.

was speaking generally of what happens here on NL concerning the copy and paste

إِنَّ اللَّهَ لاَ يَغْفِرُ أَن يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذلِكَ لِمَن يَشَآءُ

4:116 Verily, Allah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners (in worship) with Him, but He forgives whom He wills, sins other than that,

وَمَن يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلَـلاً بَعِيداً

and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, has indeed strayed far away.

إِن يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِهِ إِلاَّ إِنَـثاً وَإِن يَدْعُونَ إِلاَّ شَيْطَـناً مَّرِيداً

4:117 They invoke nothing but female deities besides Him (Allah), and they invoke nothing but Shaytan, a persistent rebel!

لَّعَنَهُ اللَّهُ

4:118 Allah cursed him.

وَقَالَ لاّتَّخِذَنَّ مِنْ عِبَادِكَ نَصِيباً مَّفْرُوضاً

And he (Shaytan) said: "I will take an appointed portion of your servants."

وَلأضِلَّنَّهُمْ وَلأُمَنِّيَنَّهُمْ وَلاّمُرَنَّهُمْ فَلَيُبَتِّكُنَّ ءَاذَانَ الاٌّنْعَـمِ وَلاّمُرَنَّهُمْ فَلَيُغَيِّرُنَّ خَلْقَ اللَّهِ

4:119 "Verily, I will mislead them, and surely, I will arouse in them false desires; and certainly, I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allah.''

وَمَن يَتَّخِذِ الشَّيْطَـنَ وَلِيّاً مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَقَدْ خَسِرَ خُسْرَاناً مُّبِيناً

And whoever takes Shaytan as a Wali instead of Allah, has surely suffered a manifest loss.

يَعِدُهُمْ وَيُمَنِّيهِمْ وَمَا يَعِدُهُمْ الشَّيْطَـنُ إِلاَّ غُرُوراً

4:120 He (Shaytan) makes promises to them, and arouses in them false desires; and Shaytan's promises are nothing but deceptions.

أُوْلَـئِكَ مَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ وَلاَ يَجِدُونَ عَنْهَا مَحِيصاً

4:121 The dwelling of such (people) is Hell, and they will find no way of escape from it.

وَالَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَـتِ سَنُدْخِلُهُمْ جَنَّـتٍ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا الاٌّنْهَـرُ خَـلِدِينَ فِيهَآ أَبَداً

4:122 And those who believe and do righteous good deeds, We shall admit them to the Gardens under which rivers flow (i.e. in Paradise) to dwell therein forever.

وَعْدَ اللَّهِ حَقّاً وَمَنْ أَصْدَقُ مِنَ اللَّهِ قِيلاً

Allah's promise is the truth; and whose words can be truer than those of Allah!

toba:

alright tell me more about chemicals. u can apply chemicals yet u are against some kind of dressing. what can u make of that double standard? is the kuran also in support of this?

deols:

did u read my arguments above. Everything is allowed until proven otherwise.

Islam sets a dress code for women(concerning the outermost garment). In this case, ds is d "otherwise"

Islam explains dat u do not change the nature of things and dat hadith quoted in the tafsir explains what exactly that means- what should not be changed.

and so, i repeat, Until otherwise stated( by an hadith explaining that verse, and or a quranic verse), to use a relaxer is ok.

lemme give u anoda way to it. Do u need an explanation from theology before u use a drug? a drug does a lot of changing to your system. Using a relaxer is like using a drug to me. if i wldnt use it, i'll av to cut my hair and to do dat is  Unislamic.

it is Qur'an and not koran 

now this is ridiculous. so marriage to other religious sect too is also proven other wise? remember terrorist and jihadist also rely on these same hadith and kuran to wreck havoc. so what do we believe in? u guys needs to understand what u read from your books

deols:

Bwoda toba, oro yin ti su mi mehn! ow marriage enter ds talk nahhh. u av opened ow many threads on the marriage talk, I thot we thrashed it out. ki lo tun de? se girl yen o gba mo ni?? abi she is a muslim too?

deols:

thank God I am no fan of the great musician(wonder what dat means) nor am I of d Afa ( dat sounds weird too) but I do know that a 16 yr old is a mature girl. At that age, I knew what I wanted of my life. If she was married wv her consent and d consent of her father(or any one fit to do so), it is then up to Afa to provide a proof to show it is 'otherwise' not accepted in Islam or unislamic.

uplawal:

@deols,am not really here to say much but to say concerning your writeups,the last hadiths of tathooing and others is still equivalent to relaxing of hair,the fact that they dnt write relaxers does not mean it's permitted in anyway,the hadiths clearly states that whoever does all those have changed the creation of Allah and they are cursed,its also not different from bleaching,fixing of false nails,enlargement of bosom and bum,fake hips etc,even if not mentioned in the hadiths all these are frantically not permitted in islam and its total ingratitudes to Allah.Like have said earlier,you can please yourself,but you can't change Allahs words.

uplawal:

@deols,am not really here to say much but to say concerning your writeups,the last hadiths of tathooing and others is still equivalent to relaxing of hair,the fact that they dnt write relaxers does not mean it's permitted in anyway,the hadiths clearly states that whoever does all those have changed the creation of Allah and they are cursed,its also not different from bleaching,fixing of false nails,enlargement of bosom and bum,fake hips etc,even if not mentioned in the hadiths all these are frantically not permitted in islam and its total ingratitudes to Allah.Like have said earlier,you can please yourself,but you can't change Allahs words.

Sweetnecta:

^^^^^^^ relaxing of hair is not the same as tattooing of skin.
relaxer will weaken with time and even washing it with water will return it.

tattoo is different? it stains the skin.

when i shave my head i will be changing Allah's creation if we follow the above. yet if i had never cut my hairs, imagine how long it will be in all these generation?

even the beard that makes my face absolutely masculine, i have to cut it so that it does not become a thing that makes me look ike a freak.

I think there is always moderation in Islam. what makes hair manageable is relaxer; i will not say it is forbidden.
what makes hair manageable is platting; i will not say it is forbidden.

in either case, there is no changing of nature of woman, more than a woman who at some point trim off the split ends of long hair that is 3 feet long because it will deteriorate very quickly.

toba:

stop calling me keferi because im not a muslim

Sweetnecta:

^^^^ if you can contribute, you and all of us can learn from contributions of others. no or you just don't learn, but only contribute?

i see how quickly you let us know that you are a kafr [disbeliever], but eager/salivating after muslim women. HY PO CR I TE.

uplawal:

@deols,am not really here to say much but to say concerning your writeups,the last hadiths of tathooing and others is still equivalent to relaxing of hair,the fact that they dnt write relaxers does not mean it's permitted in anyway,the hadiths clearly states that whoever does all those have changed the creation of Allah and they are cursed,its also not different from bleaching,fixing of false nails,enlargement of bosom and bum,fake hips etc,even if not mentioned in the hadiths all these are frantically not permitted in islam and its total ingratitudes to Allah.Like have said earlier,you can please yourself,but you can't change Allahs words.

deols:

My dear sister Uplawal, I ddnt reply yu earlier cos I thot sweetnecter's reply is enough. But I must say dat Islam is complete. Trying to read undue meanings to things is wat brings about bid'ah(innovations). Every of those pple look out for proofs and misinterprete them to suit their whims.

for example, The prophet warned us against adding other pple's hairs to ours at a time when their was no peruvian nor brazillian hair for sale. TIme again we are told his message is for then , now and the future. He also mentioned dat pple wld make their hair appear as the hump of a camel. .dat is also happening now. But until it is clearly written, dr's no point in making ourselves uncomfortable.

or how do u think extremism started.