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Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by iragbijile: 1:57am On Jul 08, 2011
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 2:17am On Jul 08, 2011
iragbijile:

[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YpticqS9-8?version=3&hl=en_US[/flash]

Clear, precise and to the point.

Best thing she said: "In this country if you receive stolen goods are you not prosecuted?". Corruption goes both ways.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by aljharem3: 2:26am On Jul 08, 2011
okonjo iweala is very smart,

very clear and precise, God bless this woman
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by seanet02: 2:34am On Jul 08, 2011
The woman is overrated.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by aljharem3: 2:39am On Jul 08, 2011
seanet02:

The woman is overrated.

what!!!! did u just watch the video

i just hope she puts her brain to good use this time
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 2:42am On Jul 08, 2011
seanet02:

The woman is overrated.
Yes, she's overrated. But she was well composed and articulate in that video. That's all I am saying.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by seanet02: 2:52am On Jul 08, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

Yes, she's overrated. But she was well composed and articulate in that video. That's all I am saying.
Even Ibori can do better than this. Her theoretical conjectures can not work in Nigeria.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Ngwakwe: 3:11am On Jul 08, 2011
seanet02:

The woman is overrated.

In every topic on her you copy and paste the above quote. Is is all you have to say about her credentials. Who said that she overrated? The World bank, Economists, Africans (that are proud of her as the highest paid World bank employee if you minus the American appointee) or a foo.lish jealous tribal specialist like you and ilks
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by seanet02: 3:18am On Jul 08, 2011
Ngwakwe:

In every topic on her you copy and paste the above quote. Is is all you have to say about her credentials. Who said that she overrated? The World bank, Economists, Africans (that are proud of her as the highest paid World bank employee if you minus the American appointee) or a foo.lish jealous tribal specialist like you and ilks
Ediot! Can you prove the lame accusation that i copy and paste that quote? Typical yanmirin liar.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ZnO: 3:25am On Jul 08, 2011
Where are the Ngozi's of the SW?
Show me one and I will climb the moon.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by seanet02: 3:35am On Jul 08, 2011
ZnO:

Where are the Ngozi's of the SW?
Show me one and I will climb the moon.
Abeg this theoretical economics can only work for Spare part business.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by SEFAGO(m): 4:03am On Jul 08, 2011
Which of them is fatter?

Just curious grin
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Jenifa1: 4:07am On Jul 08, 2011
seanet02:

Even Ibori can do better than this. Her theoretical conjectures can not work in Nigeria.

lol. I think I agree with you.
she's too influenced by World Bank
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by SEFAGO(m): 4:13am On Jul 08, 2011
U guys are funny ooh.

Nothing she said is advanced or theoretical. Infact she does things the Nitty gritty way by trying to convince people to invest in Nigeria and trying to sell the fact that the government if trying to improve the business environment in NIgeria to encourage FDI.

My only bone of contention is her salary. Anyone can probably create and implement the same policies using my common sense for 1/00th the salary.

But man, how do the husbands of these two women handle them, thats the more complex question sha . . .
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 4:15am On Jul 08, 2011
SEFAGO:

U guys are funny ooh.

Nothing she said is advanced or theoretical. Infact she does things the Nitty gritty way by trying to convince people to invest in Nigeria and trying to sell the fact that the government if trying to improve the business environment in NIgeria to encourage FDI.

My only bone of contention is her salary. Anyone can probably create and implement the same policies using my common sense for 1/00th the salary.

But man, how do the husbands of these two women handle them, thats the more complex question sha . . .

She basically hit the nail on the head. I'm content with her analysis of corruption, Africa and the other side.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by iragbijile: 4:19am On Jul 08, 2011
Ileke-IdI:

She basically hit the nail on the head. I'm content with her analysis of corruption, Africa and the other side.


there is nothing new in what she said, we've known that from time. She is overrated and she lacks the passion to move Nigeria forward.

Eleni Gabre has better credentials and she has had more impact than Okonjo iweala.

Long live EGM
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by NegroNtns(m): 4:28am On Jul 08, 2011
Where are the Ngozi's of the SW?
Show me one and I will climb the moon.


ZnO,

When women in Nigeria were hidden behind curtains by their husbands in the North and were not allowed to come out.

When women in the East was still wearing grass for skirt and walked around bare chested.
When women in America were still too frightened to demand liberation.

Sisi Eko in the West was publishing articles and getting on airwave in Ibadan to organize political rallies and demand justice for women suffrage, right to vote, right to earn wages and equitable treatment under labor laws.

Women like Tinubu, Kuti, Kofo-Abayomi. . . . They were trailblazers and pioneered the rights that Ngozi is able to enjoy today.
I join you in rejoicing her accomplishments and while this is your first of such greatness in the women gender, Yoruba has been there, done that and don't need the worship! Thank you very much!!
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 4:29am On Jul 08, 2011
iragbijile:


there is nothing new in what she said, we've known that from time. She is overrated and she lacks the passion to move Nigeria forward.

Eleni Gabre has better credentials and she has had more impact than Okonjo iweala.

Long live EGM

If you think what she said is nothing new and that she's overrated, then why create a thread about her?

I appreciate her eloquence and her "slap to the face" point.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Jenifa1: 5:10am On Jul 08, 2011
SEFAGO:


U guys are funny ooh.
Nothing she said is advanced or theoretical. Infact she does things the Nitty gritty way by trying to convince people to invest in Nigeria and trying to sell the fact that the government if trying to improve the business environment in NIgeria to encourage FDI.

you are also right.
it's all how you look at it.
I think Seannet's comment was from a more broader perspective and not particularly about the content of the ted talk alone.


ex. she voiced optimism about the success of her strategy to increase foreign exchange reserve. the irony is that the reserve is being depleted due to corruption and is no longer a success story.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-621378.0.html


I don't think she's overrated though. I think she's brilliant. I'm just maybe biased against the world bank background and wonder if that will serve Nigeria well. it's better than what we used to have anyway. lol
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 5:16am On Jul 08, 2011
^^^ One thing tho, how could she go out representing Nigeria in that kinda shapeless native attire. I'm sure she has the money to dress better.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by adconline(m): 6:22am On Jul 08, 2011
Eleni Gabre has better credentials and she has had more impact than Okonjo iweala.
She's talking about advanced stuff like CBOT and food options, she sounds like an egghead who thinks that Harvard is a play ground for all smart people people on earth. You can translate NG's ideas into realities on ground in Nigeria, while Eleni Gabre ideas are abstract in African context. How many flourishing food and commodities exchanges do we have in Africa? Nil. How many thriving telecommunication businesses that are African bred do we have in Africa? Many
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ZnO: 6:59am On Jul 08, 2011
Negro_Ntns:

Where are the Ngozi's of the SW?
Show me one and I will climb the moon.


ZnO,

When women in Nigeria were hidden behind curtains by their husbands in the North and were not allowed to come out.

When women in the East was still wearing grass for skirt and walked around bare chested.
When women in America were still too frightened to demand liberation.

Sisi Eko in the West was publishing articles and getting on airwave in Ibadan to organize political rallies and demand justice for women suffrage, right to vote, right to earn wages and equitable treatment under labor laws.

Women like Tinubu, Kuti, Kofo-Abayomi. . . . They were trailblazers and pioneered the rights that Ngozi is able to enjoy today.
I join you in rejoicing her accomplishments and while this is your first of such greatness in the women gender, Yoruba has been there, done that and don't need the worship! Thank you very much!!

Who the frigging hell are Tinubu and Kofo Abayomi?

What did they study, what degrees do they have, where did they work, who are they? Were they ministers or World Bank (or Yoruba Bank grin) MDs?
Okay! Just been told here by Bimbo that they were some SW Lagos market women leaders (iya olojas). lol
Did you not hear of Aba women riot? Or of Magareth Ekpo (Igbo woman married in Calabar, after whom the Calabar International Airport was named)?

Not Just Ngozi, there are for e.g.,  Oby Ezekwesili (World Bank VP) and Arunma Oteh (who was African Development Bank VP until she was appointed by GEJ recently to head the SEC)

Where are your modern women?

Lookia ma friend, no annoy me this night grin grin grin grin
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by Nobody: 7:18am On Jul 08, 2011
people are just hitting the reply button without watching the video.

okonjo said everything was she wanted to say in a clear and concise manner,hitting the nail on the head and even got a standing ovation upon  her conclusion but this Eleni of a woman is reading from a book yet sounding uncomfortable and pessimistic  undecided undecided
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by hercules07: 8:54am On Jul 08, 2011
She works for the world bank -60 in my estimation, she paid her employers when she was finance minister, another minus 10, she needs to prove that she is coming to work for Nigerians and not her employers, by the way, she is complaining of recurrent expenditure, why did she not forfeit her salary afterall, she can never be poor again.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by dempeople(m): 10:16am On Jul 08, 2011
[size=14pt]@iragbijile alias F/Y/ZStranger,[/size]

You bigot! Try better next time. Okonjo-Iweala will definitely be the Finance minister solely based on her abilities and experience.

No need for comparison between her and the other lady economist u dimwit.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ektbear: 11:24am On Jul 08, 2011
ZnO:

Where are the Ngozi's of the SW?
Show me one and I will climb the moon.

By Ngozis, you mean economists with PhDs from top schools? I actually met one in February. A young woman who will be taking up a faculty position at a pretty famous school in the US. I guess she is actually a bit better, since she was good enough to get this tenure-track faculty position. Something to my knowledge Ngozi did not do  grin grin grin

I'm very proud of her. She will hopefully be an asset to Nigeria (or Yorubaland, if naija scatters) at some point in the near future. Incidentally, she is kind of cute too, lol.

With that said, I don't think this sort of thing is popular amongst women or Nigerian women. So it is very rare to meet 'em.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by adconline(m): 1:24pm On Jul 08, 2011
By Ngozis, you mean economists with PhDs from top schools? I actually met one in February. A young woman who will be taking up a faculty position at a pretty famous school in the US. I guess she is actually a bit better, since she was good enough to get this tenure-track faculty position. Something to my knowledge Ngozi did not do

Not economists with PhDs, but with her track record. A tenured faculty position does not translate to real world working experience.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ZnO: 2:14pm On Jul 08, 2011
ekt_bear:

By Ngozis, you mean economists with PhDs from top schools? I actually met one in February. A young woman who will be taking up a faculty position at a pretty famous school in the US. I guess she is actually a bit better, since she was good enough to get this tenure-track faculty position. Something to my knowledge Ngozi did not do  grin grin grin

I'm very proud of her. She will hopefully be an asset to Nigeria (or Yorubaland, if naija scatters) at some point in the near future. Incidentally, she is kind of cute too, lol.

With that said, I don't think this sort of thing is popular amongst women or Nigerian women. So it is very rare to meet 'em.

Almost every other person with a Ph.D. gets a tenure track position somewhere; but few work in WB and become an MD. If Ngozi felt like being a prof at Harvard, she would be. Not everyone wants to be, get that?

I'll have you also know that she is also the president (or so) of African University of Science and Technology (Nelson Mandela University) in Abuja, catering to the West and Central African sub-regions. Look it up to see the quality of Faculty of that University.

BTW, what is the name of the one you met? Let's vet her credentials vis-a-vis Ngozi or Oby or Arunmah. I can use some googling this morning.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ektbear: 2:36pm On Jul 08, 2011
ZnO:

Almost every other person with a Ph.D. gets a tenure track position somewhere;
a) I doubt the rate at which PhDs get tenure track positions is 50%
b) She didn't get a job "somewhere", but at a very famous school ranked pretty high on the list in her field.


but few work in WB and become an MD.
What is the significance of "few work in WB"? Obviously that doesn't say anything about selectivity or difficulty of landing the position.


If Ngozi felt like being a prof at Harvard, she will be.
Based on what? Being a prof of econ at Harvard requires you to have a very strong research record. Does she have any publications in major econ journals? If not, then no, she cannot get hired as a prof at Harvard. You realize Harvard econ has giants like Mankiw there, yes? You can look him up and see if you think she stacks up against him (she doesn't.)

Not everyone wants to be, get that?
And not everyone who wants can get.


BTW, what is the name of the one you met? Let's vet her credentials vis-a-vis Ngozi or Oby or Arunmah.

Here is Ngozi's background, per Wikipedia:

. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was educated at Harvard University, graduating magna cumlaude with an A.B. in 1977, and earned her Ph.D. in regional economics and development from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
This girl I know did her undergrad at a top undergrad and a top econ grad school, both comparable in caliber to the above institutions. I won't mention the names of them to protect privacy (but no doubt you'll hear of her sometime in the next few years and remember this forum post grin ) Her resume at the same point in their respective careers stacks up just as well. Actually, she has another feather in her cap that very few US undergrads get period. But I won't bother mentioning it, because saying it will also make her easy to find grin

In short, she is a badass.
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ektbear: 2:49pm On Jul 08, 2011
adconline:

By Ngozis, you mean economists with PhDs from top schools? I actually met one in February. A young woman who will be taking up a faculty position at a pretty famous school in the US. I guess she is actually a bit better, since she was good enough to get this tenure-track faculty position. Something to my knowledge Ngozi did not do

Not economists with PhDs, but with her track record. A tenured faculty position does not translate to real world working experience.

What does "track record" mean in this context? And "real world working experience" = what? Private sector, semi-public sector like World Bank?
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ZnO: 2:52pm On Jul 08, 2011
ekt_bear:

a) I doubt the rate at which PhDs get tenure track positions is 50%
b) She didn't get a job "somewhere", but at a very famous school ranked pretty high on the list in her field.
What is the significance of "few work in WB"? Obviously that doesn't say anything about selectivity or difficulty of landing the position.
Based on what? Being a prof of econ at Harvard requires you to have a very strong research record. Does she have any publications in major econ journals? If not, then no, she cannot get hired as a prof at Harvard. You realize Harvard econ has giants like Mankiw there, yes? You can look him up and see if you think she stacks up against him (she doesn't.)
And not everyone who wants can get.

Here is Ngozi's background, per Wikipedia:This girl I know did her undergrad at a top undergrad and a top econ grad school, both comparable in caliber to the above institutions. I won't mention the names of them to protect privacy (but no doubt you'll hear of her sometime in the next few years and remember this forum post grin ) Her resume at the same point in their respective careers stacks up just as well. Actually, she has another feather in her cap that very few US undergrads get period. But I won't bother mentioning it, because saying it will also make her easy to find grin

In short, she is a badass.

What is her name? We cannot compare Ngozi with an unknown name. Abi she no get name?
Re: Eleni Gabre-madhin Vs. Okonjo Iweala by ektbear: 2:52pm On Jul 08, 2011
ZnO:

I'll have you also know that she is also the president (or so) of African University of Science and Technology (Nelson Mandela University) in Abuja, catering to the West and Central African sub-regions. Look it up to see the quality of Faculty of that University.

Of what relevance is this? BTW, under the administrative staff section (http://aust.edu.ng/content/people), it lists some guy named Charles Ndume as acting president. Was she president previously or something? In any case, looks like purely an administrative position, no?

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