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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 7:56pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


None of those US and UK weapons are achieving anything on the battlefield. Their success story is only on Twitter. Starstreak, Javelin and Stinger have been trash riddled with battery issues and other problems.

Ukraine are achieving most success with Soviet weapons. Their best anti-tank weapon has been Stugna and Igla manpads have helped with helis. Ditto their s300 batteries.

That’s why US and U.K. have been running all over the globe to buy weapons from countries that have Soviet weapons for Ukraine.

Because they don't want to expose their military equipment to Russia

The same stinger missile us used to Chase out Russian lead USSR from Afghanistan

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 8:05pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:
Firstone

Read this


If they supply western weapon it will faster flush out Russian from Ukraine
West want this war to prolong that's why they providing those weapon to Ukraine
Solvekia supply Ukraine with s-300 missile and replacing it with American made missiles
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 8:07pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


None of those US and UK weapons are achieving anything on the battlefield. Their success story is only on Twitter. Starstreak, Javelin and Stinger have been trash riddled with battery issues and other problems.

Ukraine are achieving most success with Soviet weapons. Their best anti-tank weapon has been Stugna and Igla manpads have helped with helis. Ditto their s300 batteries

That’s why US and U.K. have been running all over the globe to buy weapons from countries that have Soviet weapons for Ukraine.


I don't have time for people like you guys who lack knowledge

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 8:25pm On May 12, 2022
firstone:


Because they don't want to expose their military equipment to Russia

The same stinger missile us used to Chase out Russian lead USSR from Afghanistan

Like you, I used to think Stinger missile was the game-changer in the Soviet-Afghan war but it wasn’t. That was just American propaganda to claim a victory for itself.

According to US military experts who wrote reports after the war - Stinger missiles weren’t that effective in Afghan as well. Taliban had most of its success with how they perfected their use of RPGs, Igla and Chinese weapons. Those were the game-changer. People always forget that China and the Soviets didn’t get along during the war and the Chinese supported Taliban with everything.

Taliban also showed how effective they are with RPGs in shooting down helis because they shot down dozens of American helis during the Afghan invasion in 2003 including 2 Chinooks carrying over 45 US Navy SEAL 6 special forces whilst killing all of them.

If Stinger were that good - how come no other country has been able to use them effectively apart from the lousy claims in Afghanistan?

Another misconception is that the Soviets lost in Afghanistan. But after the Soviets left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there survived and outlasted the Soviet Union. However, when the US left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there collapsed and was overthrown the next day.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 8:34pm On May 12, 2022
firstone:


I don't have time for people like you guys who lack knowledge

Post one clip out of the hundreds of clips Ukrainians have posted of destroying Russian tanks or helis/Jets where western weapons were used successfully. I only saw one clip of Javelin and the tank kept moving almost unscathed and the lousy Starstreak one hit a heli with no proof.

Almost all the videos Ukrainians have posted are of Stugna-P and their Soviet era AA batteries. And there are videos of Ukrainian soldiers complaining about NLAW and Javelins and their battery problems and how they’re not working.

Wall Street Journal also just posted an article that the U.K. is searching everywhere to buy Soviet and Russian weapons for Ukraine. So if all these western weapons are the game changer - why are they trying to buy Soviet and Russian weapons?

I can’t speak for the western artillery weapons and missiles that they’re sending now. Those ones are just getting to the frontline and we would know how effective they’re in the next few days/weeks.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 9:01pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Like you, I used to think Stinger missile was the game-changer in the Soviet-Afghan war but it wasn’t. That was just American propaganda to claim a victory for itself.

According to US military experts who wrote reports after the war - Stinger missiles weren’t that effective in Afghan as well. Taliban had most of its success with how they perfected their use of RPGs, Igla and Chinese weapons. Those were the game-changer. People always forget that China and the Soviets didn’t get along during the war and the Chinese supported Taliban with everything.

Taliban also showed how effective they are with RPGs in shooting down helis because they shot down dozens of American helis during the Afghan invasion in 2003 including 2 Chinooks carrying over 45 US Navy SEAL 6 special forces whilst killing all of them.

If Stinger were that good - how come no other country has been able to use them effectively apart from the lousy claims in Afghanistan?

Another misconception is that the Soviets lost in Afghanistan. But after the Soviets left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there survived and outlasted the Soviet Union. However, when the US left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there collapsed and was overthrown the next day.

You have problem in the brain i swear
Get out from my threads
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 9:15pm On May 12, 2022
firstone:


You have problem in the brain i swear
Get out from my threads

Bush monkey, when someone above you and more knowledgeable than you is educating you - you shut up and listen. That’s how you learn.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 9:20pm On May 12, 2022
If western weapons are the game changer - they won’t be doing this:

U.K. Is Shopping for Old Soviet Military Gear to Give Ukraine

The U.K. is buying Soviet- and Russian-made defense equipment to provide to the Ukrainians to help them fight off the Russian invaders, the country's defense minister said.

"Large parts of the [ministry of defense] and defense attachés around the world have been looking," Ben Wallace told reporters in Washington.

"Sometimes we've bumped into the Russians looking, by the way, in some countries, looking also for some of their resupplies because...they're running out fast," he said.

Mr. Wallace said 23 countries have stocks of Russian equipment.

"If you really want to get it to the Ukrainians tomorrow morning so they can continue to fight...find what they're trained on, find what they need," he said.

Afghanistan, which the Soviet Union invaded in 1979, likely has old stocks of Soviet gear, but Mr. Wallace suggested not even the Russians would venture there to buy arms.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-11/card/u-k-is-shopping-for-old-soviet-military-gear-to-give-ukraine-zPJavM98kFB8kVPQmUqy

—-/—————-

Why are they buying Soviet and Russian weapons for Ukraine if western weapons are the game changer? cheesy

And that’s from Wall Street Journal - a US government mouthpiece.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by leofab(f): 9:35pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


None of those US and UK weapons are achieving anything on the battlefield. Their success story is only on Twitter. Starstreak, Javelin and Stinger have been trash riddled with battery issues and other problems.

Ukraine are achieving most success with Soviet weapons. Their best anti-tank weapon has been Stugna and Igla manpads have helped with helis. Ditto their s300 batteries.

That’s why US and U.K. have been running all over the globe to buy weapons from countries that have Soviet weapons for Ukraine.
your last paragraph shows how naive you are.. getting them Russian weapons means no extra training cos they share same military proceedings with Russia.. do you know how long it takes to master these weapons?

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Nobody: 9:42pm On May 12, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
Source pls..
If this turn out to be true then Slava Ukraine...this is so brutal.. grin

The rate at which Putin the clown keeps wasting his soldier is very alarming.. grin
It's confirmed.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 9:47pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Post one clip out of the hundreds of clips Ukrainians have posted of destroying Russian tanks or helis/Jets where western weapons were used successfully. I only saw one clip of Javelin and the tank kept moving almost unscathed and the lousy Starstreak one hit a heli with no proof.

Almost all the videos Ukrainians have posted are of Stugna-P and their Soviet era AA batteries. And there are videos of Ukrainian soldiers complaining about NLAW and Javelins and their battery problems and how they’re not working.

Wall Street Journal also just posted an article that the U.K. is searching everywhere to buy Soviet and Russian weapons for Ukraine. So if all these western weapons are the game changer - why are they trying to buy Soviet and Russian weapons?

I can’t speak for the western artillery weapons and missiles that they’re sending now. Those ones are just getting to the frontline and we would know how effective they’re in the next few days/weeks.

There is still major training for Ukraine Army with American weapon such as switchblade drones, light weight m777 howitzer and other weapon
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 9:49pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Bush monkey, when someone above you and more knowledgeable than you is educating you - you shut up and listen. That’s how you learn.



You don't know history bro
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 9:51pm On May 12, 2022
cheesy cheesy @ how long it takes to master weapons.

We’re talking about handheld weapons and artillery here - not fighter jets and helis that have sophisticated electronics.

Manpads and ATGM are quite easy to learn and you can master how to use them within a few days. And you can master artillery within a month max.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 9:52pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


Like you, I used to think Stinger missile was the game-changer in the Soviet-Afghan war but it wasn’t. That was just American propaganda to claim a victory for itself.

According to US military experts who wrote reports after the war - Stinger missiles weren’t that effective in Afghan as well. Taliban had most of its success with how they perfected their use of RPGs, Igla and Chinese weapons. Those were the game-changer. People always forget that China and the Soviets didn’t get along during the war and the Chinese supported Taliban with everything.

Taliban also showed how effective they are with RPGs in shooting down helis because they shot down dozens of American helis during the Afghan invasion in 2003 including 2 Chinooks carrying over 45 US Navy SEAL 6 special forces whilst killing all of them.

If Stinger were that good - how come no other country has been able to use them effectively apart from the lousy claims in Afghanistan?

Another misconception is that the Soviets lost in Afghanistan. But after the Soviets left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there survived and outlasted the Soviet Union. However, when the US left Afghanistan - the puppet government they left there collapsed and was overthrown the next day.




Where you get ur history from?

Nawo

Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Nobody: 9:53pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:
If western weapons are the game changer - they won’t be doing this:

U.K. Is Shopping for Old Soviet Military Gear to Give Ukraine

The U.K. is buying Soviet- and Russian-made defense equipment to provide to the Ukrainians to help them fight off the Russian invaders, the country's defense minister said.

"Large parts of the [ministry of defense] and defense attachés around the world have been looking," Ben Wallace told reporters in Washington.

"Sometimes we've bumped into the Russians looking, by the way, in some countries, looking also for some of their resupplies because...they're running out fast," he said.

Mr. Wallace said 23 countries have stocks of Russian equipment.

"If you really want to get it to the Ukrainians tomorrow morning so they can continue to fight...find what they're trained on, find what they need," he said.

Afghanistan, which the Soviet Union invaded in 1979, likely has old stocks of Soviet gear, but Mr. Wallace suggested not even the Russians would venture there to buy arms.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-11/card/u-k-is-shopping-for-old-soviet-military-gear-to-give-ukraine-zPJavM98kFB8kVPQmUqy

—-/—————-

Why are they buying Soviet and Russian weapons for Ukraine if western weapons are the game changer? cheesy

And that’s from Wall Street Journal - a US government mouthpiece.

Stop exposing your ignorance. Javilin, Nlaw are the majority killer weapons against russian Tanks in Ukraine.
Stinger messed up Russia Helicopter in Soviet Afgan war.
The Reason UK is also sourcing Soviet made weapons too for Ukraine is because Ukrainian soldiers are already acquaint using Soviet weapons, and do not need training for it.

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 9:57pm On May 12, 2022
firstone:


There is still major training for Ukraine Army with American weapon such as switchblade drones, light weight m777 howitzer and other weapon

The same switchblade that have been utter useless and that is either crashing without hitting its targets or getting captured by Russians? cheesy

Wonder why they stopped talking about them once they arrived in Ukraine. But before they arrived - they were the game changer on Twitter, lol.

M777s aren’t a game changer - Russia has superior weapons with flame throwers and smerch. And their artillery is very accurate. So they don’t even need to do much to destroy m777s. Every time they receive fire - they’ll just target it with artillery, lol.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by AldrichAmes: 10:00pm On May 12, 2022
This village idiot and bush monkeyclaiming “British Naija”, lol.

Some internet scammer. I won’t say much.

Man, piss off my mention - some low IQ git trying to be what he isn’t.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 10:03pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


The same switchblade that have been utter useless and that is either crashing without hitting its targets or getting captured by Russians? cheesy

Wonder why they stopped talking about them once they arrived in Ukraine. But before they arrived - they were the game changer on Twitter, lol.

M777s aren’t a game changer - Russia has superior weapons with flame throwers and smerch. And their artillery is very accurate. So they don’t even need to do much to destroy m777s. Every time they receive fire - they’ll just target it with artillery, lol.


Stop replying to Wolf �
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 10:28pm On May 12, 2022
AldrichAmes:


The same switchblade that have been utter useless and that is either crashing without hitting its targets or getting captured by Russians? cheesy

Wonder why they stopped talking about them once they arrived in Ukraine. But before they arrived - they were the game changer on Twitter, lol.

M777s aren’t a game changer - Russia has superior weapons with flame throwers and smerch. And their artillery is very accurate. So they don’t even need to do much to destroy m777s. Every time they receive fire - they’ll just target it with artillery, lol.



Your info is fake

Ukraine had destroyed hundreds of Russian made drones

Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Merisbankie(m): 1:47am On May 13, 2022
firstone:


Because they don't want to expose their military equipment to Russia

The same stinger missile us used to Chase out Russian lead USSR from Afghanistan
the same USA that flee afghan leaving their citizens in the hands of Taliban after fighting for less than a week

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Merisbankie(m): 1:49am On May 13, 2022
BritishNaija:


Stop exposing your ignorance. Javilin, Nlaw are the majority killer weapons against russian Tanks in Ukraine.
Stinger messed up Russia Helicopter in Soviet Afgan war.
The Reason UK is also sourcing Soviet made weapons too for Ukraine is because Ukrainian soldiers are already acquaint using Soviet weapons, and do not need training for it.
a the weapons USA and uk is donating
they don't know how to use it
lmao
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Merisbankie(m): 1:50am On May 13, 2022
BritishNaija:
It's confirmed.
nah your papa confirm am
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Nobody: 4:44am On May 13, 2022
Merisbankie:

nah your papa confirm am

Dumb No brain it's confirmed.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Nobody: 4:48am On May 13, 2022
Merisbankie:

a the weapons USA and uk is donating
they don't know how to use it
lmao

Stop Displaying your Stupidity on public forum. Each weapon the west send, Ukrainain troops have to be trained on how to use it, But if you get them Soviet made weapons, it eliminates the training part, because they already know to use it.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by Nobody: 4:51am On May 13, 2022
AldrichAmes:


The same switchblade that have been utter useless and that is either crashing without hitting its targets or getting captured by Russians? cheesy

Wonder why they stopped talking about them once they arrived in Ukraine. But before they arrived - they were the game changer on Twitter, lol.

M777s aren’t a game changer - Russia has superior weapons with flame throwers and smerch. And their artillery is very accurate. So they don’t even need to do much to destroy m777s. Every time they receive fire - they’ll just target it with artillery, lol.

Stop posting disinformation from your imaginary wishes.
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 6:53am On May 13, 2022
Merisbankie:

the same USA that flee afghan leaving their citizens in the hands of Taliban after fighting for less than a week


I had been arguing with fools who know nothing
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by luluosas(m): 8:17am On May 13, 2022
Anyway, I want the war to end now and war criminal Putin be made to face the music.




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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by ocelot2006(m): 8:38am On May 13, 2022
firstone:




They had been retreating until they got attack and defensive weapon � from west mostly USA. Gust what U.S weapon is a game changer cheesy

The M777 towed artillery that the Russians just captured?
Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by shogsman(m): 12:27pm On May 13, 2022
Na 399,999 not 1500, how stupid can you people get exactly

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by ocelot2006(m): 6:25pm On May 13, 2022
Yeah, I followed this story. Here's the thing though: I got to read about it through the Russians on Telegram. They admitted there were some losses at the initial attempts BUT they did finally succeeded in crossing troops and equipment across the river. The Russians are still advancing and I'm certain to a reasonable extent that the Donbass will be in their hands in a few weeks.

As for the claimed 1,500 losses, Ukrainians and pro-west supporters club, abeg fear God na. that lie is too much!

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Re: Ukraine Army Kill Over 1500 Russian Army While Trying To Cross River Line by firstone(m): 7:59pm On May 13, 2022
ocelot2006:


The M777 towed artillery that the Russians just captured?



Another Useless Russian propaganda

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