bestmutiu2019:
they will pick 5 teams from epl

Realguyman1:
Arsenal will beat Everton, then Tottenham go come lost to Norwich, abi? Bros this your hope loud o

Benmob:
only in ajax, while conte hv won 6 title for Juventus,2 title in Chelsea,one in inter milan, pls stop comparing rubbish

patoski39:
more reason why u shouldn't put both of them on the same book talk more of page.
Conte is miles ahead of ten hag, more experienced, won more titles & cups, managed better/bigger players than hag, premier league tested,, ETC........

patoski39:
ten hag over conte
Dis boy u dn start again

flexyrule:
"If"

Starzo:


that's because the best have remained consistent over the years

Valencia and atm would have won it if not for other Spanish teams

And the end of the day it still boils down to the same point, most competitive does not always translate to over all best.

Premier league is exciting because of all the hype around no doubt but it's still not the best. Based on teams performances in Europe over the years

Ximenez:

To me, it's simply because other teams are too weak and too poor to mount a change.




Spurs and City would have won it if not for other English teams too. But they lost to two different Epl teams that's the dynamism. Unlike Valencia and atm that still lost to same Madrid.

Despite Madrid winning it a record 13 times, the overall record still reads
La liga : 18 UCL
Epl: 14 UCL.

It's not about hype, it's about the entertainment, drama and thrill.
That's why midtable fixtures in epl like Westham vs Leicester will always pull more crowds than Sevilla vs ATM.

thatigboman1:
yes naa. Put money.

Ximenez:

Rest
In the past 10 seasons, 5 different teams have won the premier league.
What other league can you have something like that?
La liga?
Serie A?
Bayernliga?

pafo:


One is a shirt term fix, the other is a long term fix. If you are a real football fan who has been following Man United dexline for 9 years now, which of them would you go for?

angelfallz:
Lol why do you like saying this "Premier league tested" as if the premier league is the ultimate?
I remember when Klopp and Pep were coming to the premier league, all the pundits were asking whether tiki taka would work in the premier league or whether gen gen pressing would work in the premier league, but guess what? Pep and Klopp, have both the turned the premier league into their own personal playground or into a farmers league.

Also, you said the more reason why I should not compare Conte and Ten Hag is because has been managing longer and has more experience. You forget that Mourinho has been managing longer than Pep, and has more experience than Pep, but today Mourinho is not seeing Pep's brake light.

Look, I love Conte, but I feel that Ten Hag coming to Manchester United, would be better for Manchester United in the long run.

patoski39:
I"ll definitely and always go for conte.
Conte is never a short term fix neither is ten hag a long term. Conte's discipline is why I'm rooting for him, a man that said he likes his players to play like warriors and that he hates to loose. U will agree with me that when the players re instilled with this 'warrior' mentality, it's going to be a long term fix for the club

pafo:


Then you've not been following Conte have you? Plays 3 at the back, leaves once it starts going badly (which it always will at some point), tactically very rigid(got bounced by a dire Man United side), his tactics and antics as a manager just doesn't suit what United want in a manager.

Now Conte fanboys can cry about it but they've chosen ETH and we are backing him. This club doesn't need a patch up the work kinda coach which he would have ended up being.

patoski39:
bro, pep and klopp's case is different bcoz they managed a bigger team in a bigger league than ten hag. Those who said pep won't succeed are just bad belles and haters who didn't want the man 2 succeed.
Ten hag is a trial and error project, even though he's done well over at ajax but it's still not a good choice for a team like man united.
If an organization wants to solve lack of productivity and laziness among workers, they have to bring someone who is ruthless and experienced.
If Daniel Levy should back conte during the summer window, expect Tottenham to be a sure contender for that top 4

angelfallz:
You are right, however, Manchester United needed to change the whole football structure at the club, Conte would not have had such impact, Conte is more short term. If you have been following Manchester United you would have noticed the changes that are taking place, and some(not all) of those changes are happening because of Ten Hag.

Starzo:


You're still missing the point. Yes there are more times competing against each other for the top prize in EPL but la liga still produces the best of the best.

It's no coincidence that the most successful team in Europa league (Sevilla) is still from spain

pafo:


Then you've not been following Conte have you? Plays 3 at the back, leaves once it starts going badly (which it always will at some point), tactically very rigid(got bounced by a dire Man United side), his tactics and antics as a manager just doesn't suit what United want in a manager.

Now Conte fanboys can cry about it but they've chosen ETH and we are backing him. This club doesn't need a patch up the work kinda coach which he would have ended up being.

2saviourfriday9:
Ok na lets see

spartan117:

But that does not mean that the premier League is competitive!

It simply means that premier League teams have been inconsistent not until Pep and Klopp showed up and turned Man city and Liverpool in the premier League to the Madrid and Barcelona we had in la Liga between 2009-2012.

Now the last five titles will be won by these guys. That's consistency comrade, something the premier League clearly lacked due to the fact that the big six teams were just above average in quality hence they couldn't dominate the smaller teams like Bayern, PSG, Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid did in their respective leagues.

This is further evidenced by the fact that the premier League now dominates Europe unlike before when they had different inconsistent teams winning the league but falling flat in Europe.

In summary Man city and Liverpool are to the premier League as Barca and Madrid are to La Liga, Bayern is to Bundesliga, Juventus was to Serie A, PSG is to Ligue 1.

Ximenez:

Lol
Where were Liverpool and city when Man u and Chelsea were slugging it out in the league and still competing against same Madrid and Barca in the UCL in mid and late 2000s?
When did City emerge?
It's Man City and Liverpool now
Not Long ago, it was Man u and Arsenal
Then Chelsea and Arsenal
Chelsea and Man u and so on.
Even Leicester came up and won the league at some point.

You are calling Liverpool, a team that has one title in 30 years and just got rejuvenated, within that 30 years, do you know how many different teams that won the league?
Man City is a new force, one that we might say replaced a giant like United, and still in their entire history City have not played in the champions league for more than 11 seasons.
In the premier League, there will always be a shift in power from time to time.
In fact, you can always bet that the top four will be different every season.

Do you know how many league titles Madrid and Barca have between them?
You can't have that in epl because 24 different teams have won it since the competition started, compared to 9 from La liga.

spartan117:

We are back to the same issue of consistency!
Man utd and Arsenal dominated the league at a point, but they fell both in the league and in Europe at some point.

Madrid and Barca have been consistent for a long time and it's no wonder they have many league and champions League titles between them.

They didn't achieve this because the quality of opposition in Spain is poor, afterall Sevilla has been the dominant force in the Europa League and the likes of Villarreal, Athletico Madrid, Athletic Bilbao have won the Europa League on some occasions and some have done well in the Champions League. You can't compare the quality and achievements of these teams with the likes of Leicester city, West ham, Tottenham, Arsenal who have won nothing in Europe in the last 20yrs.

So don't blame Madrid and Barca for being consistent and dominating their leagues and praise the premier League as "competitive" simply because no team has been consistent enough to dominate it. At least not since Ferguson's United and now Pep's Man city.

Ximenez:


Who will challenge them?
Can Sevilla afford to buy a player of 50M?
That's what clubs like Aston Villa, Newcastle and Westham spent here like it's nothing, to strengthen their squads.
The truth is La liga doesn't generate much money, even the El classico that used to be their cash cow is no longer what it used to be.
On top of that, they have a lopsided sharing formula that allows Madrid and Barca to have the lion shares of the revenues.

Just look at how much Barca and Madrid have spent on flops alone, how do you expect other teams like Bilbao and Alaves to compete?
So it's not about consistency, it's simply because other teams don't have the resources to compete.

Like i said before, the quality of opposition is poor, that's why none of them apart from those two teams have ever won the champions league.

You see, you had to compare Leicester and Westham to Sevilla and ATM to score a point.


Sevilla, a supposed "top 4 team" in La liga, nearly never qualifies from the ucl group stage, but would instead drop out to the Europa league.

spartan117:

Leicester is a recent Premier league winner, West ham, Tottenham and Arsenal were all top 4 contenders this season, the latter 2 are even regarded as part of the Premier league big six. So it's fair to compare them to Sevilla.

And Sevilla stands heads and shoulders above all of them in terms of achievements in Europe.

calmness0:

E don enter?

2saviourfriday9:
E no work...oooo

Ximenez:

Lol
Sevilla is supposed to be a top 4 La liga team competing in the champions league.
So I'm just surprised that you could only compare Sevilla to midtable epl teams.
Why are you interested in comparing a top 4 team to a top 6 team? Maybe you are starting to get my points now.

Ximenez:

Imagine if a top four team in epl have been dropping from UCL to play in the Europa league every season like Sevilla.

Sevilla will enter the ucl group stage and then fail to qualify and drop to the Europa league, so their 'dominance' there is not a surprise.
They are supposed to be fighting for ucl adding more competition for la liga teams.

Ximenez:

What's your point
As a fan of a midtable team with no single European trophy in over 120 years?

I guess you need to go back to your board or better still consult your dictionary over the meaning of the word “Mid table” cos you seems to be mixing it up.
Yeah, Google is also your friend

YoungBruzzy:

I guess you need to go back to your board or better still consult your dictionary over the meaning of the word “Mid table” cos you seems to be mixing it up.
Yeah, Google is also your friend





Quote me at your own peril

spartan117:

Is Tottenham not placed 4th in the premier League right now?
Sevilla is also 4th in La Liga for your information.

Well it seems this argument has lost direction. Let's agree to disagree.