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Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 7:16pm On May 15, 2022
No matter how powerful you may be,if you lack WISDOM then, you will lose your strength with the passage of time.

Russia's greatest undoing is there lack of wisdom in the area of leadership.

In 1991, Russia, Ukraine & Belarus were the founding fathers of CIS, common wealth independent of States, with other members as: Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenista, Tajikistan,kygiristan.

However, Georgia left the CIS because of Russia's annexation of south Ossetia & Abkhazia,in Georgia in 2008.

Ukraine,one of the founding members of the CIS also left the CIS in 2014 because of Russia's annexation of Crimea.

My question is, how can you be a leader of a union & be fighting, conquering & occupying your own members territories?

This explains why Russia could not form a strong military alliance like Nato.
Since Nato was formed,I don't think the US has INVADED any of Nato's member.

Finally, Russia is not at peace with some of its own members in the CIS...& also not at peace with Nato.

What exactly do Russia & Putin want?

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by oz4real83(m): 7:18pm On May 15, 2022
Already happening, NATO will keep expanding all because of Putin's indiscretion and ego. Unlike before, most countries will now call his threats bluff because they now realised that Russia is nothing without their nuclear weapons.
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Bentizil: 7:24pm On May 15, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
No matter how powerful you may be,if you lack WISDOM then, you will lose your strength with the passage of time.

Russia's greatest undoing is there lack of wisdom in the area of leadership.

In 1991, Russia, Ukraine & Belarus were the founding fathers of CIS, common wealth independent of States, with other members as: Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenista, Tajikistan,kygiristan.

However, Georgia left the CIS because of Russia's annexation of south Ossetia & Abkhazia,in Georgia in 2008.

Ukraine,one of the founding members of the CIS also left the CIS in 2014 because of Russia's annexation of Crimea.

My question is, how can you be a leader of a union & be fighting, conquering & occupying your own members territories?

This explains why Russia could not form a strong military alliance like Nato.
Since Nato was formed,I don't think the US has INVADED any of Nato's member.

Finally, Russia is not at peace with some its own members in the CIS...& also not at peace with Nato.

What exactly do Russia & Putin want?
But US have invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and lot more...

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 7:37pm On May 15, 2022
Bentizil:

But US have invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and lot more...
Those countries you mentioned are not members of Nato.

None of those countries you mentioned can meet or fulfill the requirements of Nato.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 7:45pm On May 15, 2022
oz4real83:
Already happening, NATO will keep expanding all because of Putin's indiscretion and ego. Unlike before, most countries will now call his threats bluff because they now realised that Russia is nothing without their nuclear weapons.
My dear imagine the nonsense, how can you be a leader of a union NAMED INDEPENDENT STATES,...& still be conquering & occupying them?

Putin & Russia pushed Georgia & Ukraine to the path of Nato, just as they pushed Finland & Sweden to Nato recently.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by KillerCrocodile: 7:48pm On May 15, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
No matter how powerful you may be,if you lack WISDOM then, you will lose your strength with the passage of time.

Russia's greatest undoing is there lack of wisdom in the area of leadership.

In 1991, Russia, Ukraine & Belarus were the founding fathers of CIS, common wealth independent of States, with other members as: Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenista, Tajikistan,kygiristan.

However, Georgia left the CIS because of Russia's annexation of south Ossetia & Abkhazia,in Georgia in 2008.

Ukraine,one of the founding members of the CIS also left the CIS in 2014 because of Russia's annexation of Crimea.

My question is, how can you be a leader of a union & be fighting, conquering & occupying your own members territories ?

This explains why Russia could not form a strong military alliance like Nato.
Since Nato was formed,I don't think the US has INVADED any of Nato's member.

Finally, Russia is not at peace with some its own members in the CIS...& also not at peace with Nato.

What exactly do Russia & Putin want?

Wow this is an Interesting Article.

Strength without Wisdom is Truly Disastrous.

The Age-long Untrustworthiness of Russia is smelling everywhere they turn.

And one man is behind the Invasion of fellow
CIS member countries...... Hitler's Protégé.

Vladimir Putin.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Dvdpity: 7:52pm On May 15, 2022
Honestly, right now no one knows what is on Putin's mind. Ukraine just did their 4th mobilization.. which means that Ukraine has mobilized over 4million of able citizens for this war. Remember Russia is not at war with Ukraine. And Russia hasn't done anything close to mobilization, just volunteers who wants to see some action in the battlefield.
Ukraine is gaining ground especially in Kharkov direction. But Russian resistance is heavier. Russia is advancing in nikolvae region.
Maybe Russia is waiting for Ukraine to mobilize for the fifth time. But if you ask me..i will say that Russia didn't want to fight Ukraine, because these Ukrainian and Russian are just the same people, and this what United States have wanted. Its just pathetic that Ukraine got their independence from Russia without a single blood drop. But they have been killings donbas people for 8yrs now. Who are still thesame people with Ukraine. I don't really understand human being sometimes. Left to me. If am Putin.. taking out Kiev regime will end this war..in anyway possible, no Matter the cost. In this way any region of Ukraine can always be free because Ukraine is Russia creation.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 8:39pm On May 15, 2022
KillerCrocodile:


Wow this is an Interesting Article.

Strength without Wisdom is Truly Disastrous.

The Age-long Untrustworthiness of Russia is smelling everywhere they turn.

And one man is behind the Invasion of fellow
CIS member countries...... Hitler's Protégé.

Vladimir Putin.
If not for lack of wisdom, why would you be fighting your fellow member just because you are stronger than them.

You fight with your own members & conquer them because of your military might.

They left the Union to seek for a better alliance elsewhere still Russia & Putin would not let be.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 8:46pm On May 15, 2022
Dvdpity:
Honestly, right now no one knows what is on Putin's mind. Ukraine just did their 4th mobilization.. which means that Ukraine has mobilized over 4million of able citizens for this war. Remember Russia is not at war with Ukraine. And Russia hasn't done anything close to mobilization, just volunteers who wants to see some action in the battlefield.
Ukraine is gaining ground especially in Kharkov direction. But Russian resistance is heavier. Russia is advancing in nikolvae region.
Maybe Russia is waiting for Ukraine to mobilize for the fifth time. But if you ask me..i will say that Russia didn't want to fight Ukraine, because these Ukrainian and Russian are just the same people, and this what United States have wanted. Its just pathetic that Ukraine got their independence from Russia without a single blood drop. But they have been killings donbas people for 8yrs now. Who are still thesame people with Ukraine. I don't really understand human being sometimes. Left to me. If am Putin.. taking out Kiev regime will end this war..in anyway possible, no Matter the cost. In this way any region of Ukraine can always be free because Ukraine is Russia creation.
That is why wisdom is required to manage issues as complex as this.

Ukraine ended every respect she had for Russia after Russia annexed Crimea

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Kelvin3476: 9:20pm On May 15, 2022
Bentizil:

But US have invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and lot more...
ARE U AN IDIOT OR WHAT ? WHY CAN'T PUTARD TERRORISTS REASON ?

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Day169: 11:33pm On May 15, 2022
A phrase for the whole scenario.. "Russia’s covetousness"! ; angry
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 11:38pm On May 15, 2022
Kelvin3476:
ARE U AN IDIOT OR WHAT ? WHY CAN'T PUTARD TERRORISTS REASON ?
He's not idiot,he just asked a question
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 11:40pm On May 15, 2022
Day169:
A phrase for the whole scenario.. "Russia’s covetousness"! ; angry
Honestly, over covetous!
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 11:56pm On May 15, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
Those countries you mentioned are not members of Nato.

None of those countries you mentioned can meet or fulfill the requirements of Nato.
he said USA have invaded those countries
you said they are not members of nato
so because they are not nato USA invaded
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 12:47pm On May 16, 2022
Merisbankie:

he said USA have invaded those countries
you said they are not members of nato
so because they are not nato USA invaded
I want us to stick to the point.

If you are a wise leader of a group or a union, would you be fighting & occupying your own members territories?..no wise leader does that.

I'm trying to show us where Russia & Putin got it wrong, especially in the area of leadership of the CIS, common wealth independent of States.

Georgia & Ukraine would not have contemplated joining Nato if Russia & Putin had led them well when they were members of the CIS.

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 12:18am On May 17, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
I want us to stick to the point.

If you are a wise leader of a group or a union, would you be fighting & occupying your own members territories?..no wise leader does that.

I'm trying to show us where Russia & Putin got it wrong, especially in the area of leadership of the CIS, common wealth independent of States.

Georgia & Ukraine would not have contemplated joining Nato if Russia & Putin had led them well when they were members of the CIS.


USA and the British aim through NATO aim is to achieve world power
Putin actually warned before invading and Putin oppossed nato even before Ukraine decides to join them
I want you to realize than Ukraine is just like Russia they are brothers and they have been in good terms before the comedian took Putin for granted
china really regretted joining them
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:28am On May 17, 2022
Merisbankie:

USA and the British aim through NATO aim is to achieve world power
Putin actually warned before invading and Putin oppossed nato even before Ukraine decides to join them
I want you to realize than Ukraine is just like Russia they are brothers and they have been in good terms before the comedian took Putin for granted
china really regretted joining them

They’ve already achieved world power.

Brothers invade each other’s homes and rape their brother’s wives and children? Good terms? Ukraine and Russia’s relationship was damaged long ago and Ukrainians don’t want to be part of a dictatorship.

Ukraine has said several times that they aren’t interested in joining NATO but Putin is still fighting them. Meanwhile, Finland and Sweden says they are joining NATO but Putin isn’t trying to fight them.
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 12:41am On May 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


They’ve already achieved world power.

Brothers invade each other’s homes and rape their brother’s wives and children? Good terms? Ukraine and Russia’s relationship was damaged long ago and Ukrainians don’t want to be part of a dictatorship.

Ukraine has said several times that they aren’t interested in joining NATO but Putin is still fighting them. Meanwhile, Finland and Sweden says they are joining NATO but Putin isn’t trying
to fight them.
what is world power what is dictatorship
let them put it into documentation then invading stops
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 5:03pm On May 17, 2022
Merisbankie:

USA and the British aim through NATO aim is to achieve world power
Putin actually warned before invading and Putin oppossed nato even before Ukraine decides to join them
I want you to realize than Ukraine is just like Russia they are brothers and they have been in good terms before the comedian took Putin for granted
china really regretted joining them
Must Ukraine follow Russia.

Ukraine followed Russia to the Soviet Union, the Union collapsed after 80years.

Ukraine still followed Russia to CIS, common wealth independent of States,yet Russia invaded Ukraine & forcefully + illegally occupied Crimea in 2014... WHICH KIND OF SENIOR BROTHER IS THAT?
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 5:04pm On May 17, 2022
1stGenAmerican:


They’ve already achieved world power.

Brothers invade each other’s homes and rape their brother’s wives and children? Good terms? Ukraine and Russia’s relationship was damaged long ago and Ukrainians don’t want to be part of a dictatorship.

Ukraine has said several times that they aren’t interested in joining NATO but Putin is still fighting them. Meanwhile, Finland and Sweden says they are joining NATO but Putin isn’t trying to fight them.
True talk

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 5:05pm On May 17, 2022
cheesy

Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 5:10pm On May 17, 2022
Merisbankie:

what is world power what is dictatorship
let them put it into documentation then invading stops
The US don't occupy countries territories.. it's only Russia that invades & annexed people's land
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by VOICEofORIENTAL: 5:12pm On May 17, 2022
gambojimeta:
cheesy
Guy you too much.. this is thoughtful.. good thinking!

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Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 5:18pm On May 17, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
Guy you too much.. this is thoughtful.. good thinking!
Cheers! cheesy
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 12:39am On May 18, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
The US don't occupy countries territories.. it's only Russia that invades & annexed people's land
so until you invaded you are a dictator
at least Russia issued warning
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 12:40am On May 18, 2022
VOICEofORIENTAL:
Must Ukraine follow Russia.

Ukraine followed Russia to the Soviet Union, the Union collapsed after 80years.

Ukraine still followed Russia to CIS, common wealth independent of States,yet Russia invaded Ukraine & forcefully + illegally occupied Crimea in 2014... WHICH KIND OF SENIOR BROTHER IS THAT?
so USA didn't forcefully invaded Libya and Vietnam they peacefully did it
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:03am On May 18, 2022
Merisbankie:

so until you invaded you are a dictator
at least Russia issued warning
Russia that kept on lying that it wasn't going to invade Ukraine. Despite the element of surprise, the war is still ongoing and almost 3 months now.
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:06am On May 18, 2022
gambojimeta:

Russia that kept on lying that it wasn't going to invade Ukraine. Despite the element of surprise, the war is still ongoing and almost 3 months now. What a shame
shame that .....
what you tagged a war Russia tagged a special military operation even UK admitted
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:10am On May 18, 2022
Merisbankie:

shame that .....
what you tagged a war Russia tagged a special military operation even UK admitted
Even zelensky believed Putin wasn't invading over US intelligence. Zelensky called the west a war monger. What a shame to Russia until Russia invaded and a war was declared. Ukraine has exposed Russia as a beaver instead of a bear.

Even Putin's [Propaganda Russia Today (RT)] called it a war

Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by Merisbankie(m): 1:17am On May 18, 2022
gambojimeta:

Even zelensky believed Putin wasn't invading over US intelligence. Zelensky called the west a war monger. What a shame to Russia until Russia invaded and a war was declared. Ukraine has exposed Russia as a beaver instead of a bear.

Even Putin's [Propaganda Russia Today (RT)] called it a war
Russia issued a warning to zelensky and it was confirmed before invading
where do you get this wack news
Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:18am On May 18, 2022
Merisbankie:

Russia issued a warning to zelensky and it was confirmed before invading
where do you get this wack news
Why don't you post were you got your own news. Putin's minister of information.

Re: Russia, You Can't Eat Your Cake & Have It by gambojimeta: 1:21am On May 18, 2022
Only information about Russia secret invasion was from US intelligence.

Anyway Overrated Russia has failed to win over Ukraine's after almost 90 days of war.

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